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The Winchesters - 1x1 "Pilot" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2023-11-12 07:05:53
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Karen Gauck

Your reaction to Dean at the end was great! Supernatural canon: John & Mary met outside of the theater playing Slaughterhouse 5, just like they did here. John buys the Impala right before proposing to Mary.

Karen Gauck

And yes I got major Buffy vibes when I first watched. Which I kind of loved.

Kim Rigg

Sooo...many questions?! Welcome to the ride. It took me a few episodes to embrace the style difference but like you I am glad it was different but still having a flavour of SPN. Deana is Mary's mam. The episode is before the time of the episode In the Beginning. Really enjoyed the pilot despite the headache I got from all the questions. The only thing I did not like was the look of the monsters and some of the dialogue was a bit cheesy but otherwise good start. Love the squad.

MidnightSilver

Great reaction! Cheers! 🎉😄 I’ve been meaning to get around to watching this so am looking forward to following along with your reactions for these 😄

Purple Nurple

I KNEW you'd have that reaction to hearing Dean and seeing Dean. We were spoiled by that in the trailer. Yes this show definitely has some mystery to it and will have you questioning 'but this didn't happen'. All I'll say is, enjoy the ride, enjoy the confusion and you'll have a good time. When you started off you were talking more about characters than plot, so I knew this would be quite the surprise for you and I'm so glad you've been unspoiled about all of it.

Purple Nurple

Part of the reason we suggested to wait before watching this - was so you could process Dean's death before being smacked in the face with Dean again! lol

Alex Jo

hhahhahahaha the end! For some reason I thought you saw the trailer

Michele

So, from the start, there are already differences to the John and Mary history canon that we got from the original show. This worried me, because of the Butterfly Effect and how much that would change the story we know! As far as I know, John never got a letter from his dad and Mary never had to go looking for her father. As we see in this premier, she starts looking for him at the same time she and John meet for the first time. They couldn't have hooked up if she was away looking for her father, so it's pretty doubtful that it happened in the original story. Same with the Akreeda being a Thing. So both of their stories have changed from the original. It seems. Also, we've never heard about the Akreeda before. I did trust Jensen and Robbie to make it all make sense in the end. When Dean was sent back in time to meet John and Mary for the first time, they had already been dating for a while, so the car came into their lives after they had been dating a while. Jensen has always liked John. He has a different experience to the story than the fans, so looks like we'll see that in this show. I never hated John as much as other fans, so I think that helped me in being interested in watching The Winchesters and learning more about John. I don't think we know as much as we think we do. We've been given glimpses of him prior to Mary's death, and then just some of him after her death. There's a lot of life there that we haven't seen. Been a lot of head canon filler we've had to do with what little we got. IMO I think the studio had some influence over some show elements, but don't know which ones. There was a lot that happened in this pilot episode. Shows these days seem to be condensed because there are fewer episodes in shows. A lot has to happen towards the story development to get it all in within the number of eps they get. No chance for the slow development, which I miss. But the benefit is less "filler" eps. Many fans were a bit spoiled over the characters and such due to promotional releases, so I knew to expect things to be different in parts.

Jay

Oh my god your reaction to seeing Dean was amazing!!! Looking forward to the ride!

BexFangirl

Your reaction to everything Dean related was absolutely hilarious. Yes! Carlos had an amazing entrance. Yeah I think we were all pretty confused. And there were so many theories going around. I'm very interested in your thoughts (and theories). All we got to hear about what was going on was "trust us".

Jay

btw John's mother is called Millie – we found out her name in that season 9 episode of Supernatural when Henry and Josie (in flashback) fought Abaddon in a convent. So John's parents = Henry and Millie, Mary's parents = Samuel and Deanna. The actress who plays Mary is Meg Donnelly, she starred in the Zombies films on the Disney Channel and she can sing – Meg and Jojo have both sung at some of the SPN cons. Jensen and Danneel's daughter JJ is a big fan of hers, that might even have been why she caught their attention in the first place.

Rae

dean. 🫣😍🥺 i love carlos. i love lata. i love a hunting TEAM. this is absolutely an "enjoy the ride" show- and i really hope you do!

Stephanie Butler

Admittedly I was skeptical about this from the start. Did we really need a prequel about the backstory of John and Mary that we thought we already knew? But I gave it a shot and in the end I loved it. Part of the fun here is trying to figure out what's going on and I promise it's worth it and will make sense. It has SPN themes but overall it definitely gave me early Buffy Scooby gang vibes too. Drake is fantastic and I adore these kids. Hope you enjoy it too!

rose mnor

Yes, love your reaction to the pilot Shelley. It is full of exposition dumps, I'm not surprised that you felt overwhelmed by it all. Not us though, we loved all that info, and after the pilot aired, woah boy, the dissections of all things different from Supernatural canon were discussed to death. Don't worry though, those differences will be explained and it will make sense later on. Some highlights from behind the scenes: At New York Comic Con 2022, Jensen and Robbie Thompson referred to Mary, John, Latika, and Carlos as the "core four" of the ensemble cast. Robbie did acknowledge that he gave Carlos Cervantez a nod as to the Carlos that was mentioned by Sam in S09E18 Meta Fiction, SAM: Yeah. All right. Thanks, Carlos. Listen, you, uh, if you catch wind of any other demon activity, give me a holler, all right? Appreciate it. The character of Millie Winchester was created by Adam Glass and was mentioned in S09E17 Mother's Little Helper. He never got a chance to have her appear in an episode. in S04E03 In the Beginning, John says he's a "mechanic from a family of mechanics." We now know that Millie is the one who always wanted to be a mechanic and own her own shop like her father, who opened Winchesters Garage. From Superwiki, that monster is loup-garou, a type of Cajun werewolf which is a bipedal monster, covered in skin and scales similar to alligators with a huge wolf-like head. The next episode would be better exposition-wised, as the characters will settle in and we can see better the direction of where the show is going.

AdoptDontShopPets

I didn’t mind the trailer spoiled Dean’s appearance. It brought happy tears to my eyes to see him 🥲

Purple Nurple

Yep. It was great to see him in the trailer and it was a very good marketing tool as well! But seeing the surprise on Shelley’s face makes me glad she didn’t see it!

AdoptDontShopPets

Love the “core four” term. Another good one to know is “mothership” which is what TW producers, cast and crew (and then fandom) call SPN.

AdoptDontShopPets

Your reaction was same as ours…utter confusion about the canon differences. Love that you were gobsmacked at seeing Dean with Baby and writing in his journal. Loved that they had the callback of the samulet hanging from the rear view mirror, which couldn’t help but remind me of the Fan Fiction episode written by Robbie Thompson. I believe that future seasons of TW would have been so fun to watch. The ratings weren’t super high so with new CW-owner Nexstar, there was no willingness to give it time to build. They are slashing budgets and a supernatural show needing monsters and cgi was tough (as you pointed out) and guns get more difficult. Plus, a diverse show with gender fluidity really doesn’t tick the boxes for a network generally viewed as a conservative, Christian-leaning network that has purchased a multi-season show about Jesus.

Vel

That's an interesting observation you're making about the CW. Makes me wonder why they chose to stick with Walker since that show also ticks a lot of the same boxes.

AdoptDontShopPets

I feel tonally the shows are very different. Walker has better ratings and has queer characters though I am not aware of a central gender fluid character, unless I am mistaken.

Hasnaa

Yes we were confused too, in SPN john doesn't know anything about monsters or demons until after Mary dies so this was already changing cannon, yeah it seems that the letter john got is what started the change, john says here that a man gave him that letter and then vanished, so fans were speculating on who that could be and why he's changing things and how that can affect the main show, we knew that dean was narrating but we too didn't expect to see him so we were very pleasantly surprised too! I guess Jensen really couldn't let go of dean especially after how his story ended and said no people deserve to see him again and I am so thankful for it, the speculations were wild on what dean is doing, where he is and when, and why's dean telling us his parents' love story, it was a really interesting mystery, theorizing with the fandom about what's going on was definitely half of the fun of watching this show. Kinda weird that the reason john joined the marine was to find his father, Henry was never a soldier so what was his thought process why would he think joining the marine would help, why expect the answer to be half way across the world instead of just right there in the US where his dad lived, I am so baffled by that. The only concern I still had (other than the huge change in canon) is that it would be a very john apologist show or make us sympathize with him because drake is so sweet and he makes john charming, I do like that they're exploring John's war trauma though. Deanna Campbell is Mary's mom, we never met John's mom before this episode, we only knew that her name is Millie, and in this episode we learn that john got his mechanic skills from his mom which later he passed on to dean, so sad dean never got to know Millie he would've loved her, she would've taught him so much. And yes that was actually Gil's voice reading the letter from Henry. What's up with that voice modifier for demons, supernatural never had that, demons just sounded like their human host. In supernatural the men of letters were killed by Abaddon so that could explain why no one has heard from them in years and why their bunkers/club house places are covered in dust, the new info here is what ada said towards the end, that appearantly the men of letters were the last defense we had against the akreeda and that they stopped the akreeda from invading the world many times but since they were all gone, no one is here to protect us from them. Enters the Scooby gang. Mary is so dean coded and John is so Sam coded in this and I love that, Mary has her walls up, natural leader, bossy and a bit stubborn but has a good heart while john is the one trying to make Mary open up and talk and seems to be the research guy while Mary is the more street smart and the action one, Mary trying to protect john like dean tried to protect Sam, john refusing to be treated like a child just like Sam, also john is so unhinged like him pulling out that piece of the silver cross out of his skin to use as a weapon reminded me of soulless Sam biting his hand to make it bleed so he can draw a banishing sigil back in season 6, same unhinged behavior. The hight difference tho is multiplied by a hundred here, meg is almost half as tall as drake, it's so funny. Lata and Carlos are also a dean and Sam parallel, dean and Carlos have similarities like both being the "cool" character, the funny character, the "player" character, and even the musically gifted character, while lata is very Sam coded being a bookworm and with her love for research and solving puzzles, she's so smart 🤓 and so precious. I have the biggest crush on ada and a lil crush on lata. Love carlos's entrance, iconic, we see Mary get jealous of lata and john twice in this episode, for a good reason, john and lata have as good chemistry as john and Mary if not more (imo). Love the found family feels, so much better than only 2 leads and side characters 😌. Not Carlos kissing Mary's ex boyfriend while he was with a Beth🤦🏻‍♀️, lata isn't the only one Mary should be careful with around john I see 😂, I ship john with everyone in this show which isn't something I expected at all, I ship john and lata and john and Carlos and knowing that Carlos already had/has a crush on mary, we're already 1/4 the way there to all 4 being the iconic polyclue we deserve. They feel so much like the Scooby Doo gang especially with Carlo's van. I remember my biggest pet peeve with this episode after I watched it was where's the led zeppelin bonding moment that we learned about in 12x01, dean said to Mary " Dad told me. March 23, 1972, you walked out of a movie theater – Slaughterhouse-Five. You loved it, and you bumped into a big Marine and you knocked him flat on his ass. You were embarrassed, and he laughed it off, said you could make it up to him with a cup of coffee. So, you went to, uh, Mulroney's and you talked and he was cute and he knew the words to every Zeppelin song, so when he asked you for your number, you gave it to him, even though you knew your dad would be pissed. That was the night that – that you met –" and Mary says: "john Winchester", so we see the first part of that story with Mary walking out of a movie theater and bumping into john knocking him on his ass but we didn't get the coffee date where they talked about zeppelin and where Mary gave john her number so either that changed due to the letter or is still to come in the rest of the episodes, not that I was that invested in john and Mary's love story by any means but I always liked that parallel with destiel and that whole led zeppelin thing, it was the only redeeming part of their heaven forced love story to me lol.

Hasnaa

At last 😭

Tara.

shelley i was cackling when you said this had a buffy feel, because i thought the exact same thing when i watched this ep the first time, it really does have that vibe. i loved you reaction!! especially to dean showing up lmao i forgot that you literally had no clue whatsoever (we all got trailers etc but you went in blind) i am excited to see your reactions to this season

rose mnor

... yeah, the ratings ... it was just not fair about the ratings, so many preemptive nights due to Verizon or what company again I can't recall, that was undergoing re-negotiation talks making so many major cities unable to watch the episodes as their TV stations don't have the carrier for the show ... sorry if I'm wrong as I'm a bit lost on how they were affected ... I only knew that The Winchesters were not aired/preempted there making the ratings look bad as a whole.

rose mnor

... oh my, yes ... when I heard them say on that stage that day (and beyond) "the mothership" in regards to SPN, in interviews and some such, I could just feel the vibe emanating from them: the affection and the fondness that they have about the show, from both Robbie and Jensen plus others ... about the little show that could ...

rose mnor

"... the reason john joined the marine was to find his father, ... what was his thought process why would he think joining the marine would help ..." (SPOILERS ALERT ...) John joined the Marines when he was 17, still a boy. Not many life lessons learned yet. He was a scout as mentioned in ep 2. John: In the war, I was a scout. My job was to find things. I was good at that. Striking out the last couple of weeks looking for your dad. I started to get worried.. It was not explicitly said, but imo John wanted to learn a certain skill set, hence, joining the marine. It can be extrapolated that he hoped to find Henry afterward by using whatever he had learned from his experiences while in 'Nam, but instead, he met Mary and the rest was history ...

Hasnaa

I have to add I really love the song they used for Ada's introduction, so fitting for the new Orleans vibes, I didn't know that song before now I listen to it all the time, the song's name is (walkin' after midnight) by patsy cline

AdoptDontShopPets

That’s a great call out, Hasnaa. I think that Robbie Thompson must be a Patsy Cline fan. In 11x11 Into the Mystic (which he wrote), Mildred used to be a singer in a Patsy Cline tribute band. Definitely check out her other famous songs like “Crazy” and “I Fall to Pieces.”

Hasnaa

Thank you so much, Karen, I listened to those 2 songs and loved them!!

Hasnaa

Fall to pieces is such a destiel song, I can't believe no one did a destiel edit to it, walkin' after midnight is also a destiel song especially in the post 15x18 era