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Demijan Omeragic

One of my least favorite episodes. I've only seen it once. I dislike the episode so much that I did not watch your entire reaction, only the beginning and the end of it. Many might disagree, but for me it's a T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E episode. I don't care if Gillian wrote it if I find it to be terrible. Firstly, Gillian Anderson seems to write not about Scully, but more about herself. Scully attracted to New-Age / Buddhist stuff? No, her character's religious/spiritual aspect was always Catholicism. Secondly, the episode plays with the audience as to whether they had sex or not, right at the first few minutes prior to the opening credits. But I'm not a "shipper" in the traditional sense, so that's not what bothered me. What bothered me was an episode where I saw Gillian Anderson playing herself, or at least some modified version of herself. I did not see much of Scully here. In terms of visuals, acting and directing, plus music, I guess it is successful (technically) and perhaps even unique in a way, but looking at it as an X-Files "story" it fails miserably in my view. Like I said, I've only seen it once, and it was enough for me. Speaking of which, season seven is also one of my least favorite seasons of the original series anyway. But I'm looking forward to your reactions to the penultimate episode, as well as the S7 finale.

Jason

The beginning was confusing when it aired. But I believe they did have sex it was just off screen. And this is from IMDB Trivia that also helps to confirm it. (The scene at the beginning of the episode in which the audience can see how Scully is getting dressed in Mulder's bathroom while he is sleeping naked, came up after a conversation between Frank Spotzniz and Gillian Anderson in which he suggested to her that it was a good moment for showing them as lovers.)

Daniela Keller

I love this episode. Finally a look at Scully from a woman's view, in addition, season seven is one of my favorites.

zammmerjammer

I mean. Scully was putting her shirt back on and zipping up her skirt... with the door open... and she had to pick up her jacket off the bed... where Mulder just happens to be asleep naked in his bed... on the night Scully falls asleep on the couch...? Guys. Come on. Those fish have seen some things...

zammmerjammer

Question for other X-Philes here -- are we to believe that the events of a certain flashback episode in season 8 have been going on in the background here... since the beginning-ish of this season...? Yes?

zammmerjammer

I mean, speaking as a Catholic who has had some trippy weird spiritual experiences, they didn't make me suddenly un-Catholic.

Demijan Omeragic

I would respectfully try and avoid getting deeper into this discussion because such things rarely end well. Reasons being the XF fandom is toxic enough as it is, with people attacking each other (not here, but elsewhere) over simple differences of opinion / matter of taste in regards to certain episodes and seasons. It is my firm belief that if "all things" had been written by anyone else except GA, like CC for example, it would always end up on all the "worst episodes ever" lists. IMO it only gets a pass because of the writing and directing credit.

Demijan Omeragic

You just couldn't resist posting spoilers, could you? What a shame. It's the same here just like YouTube. You can implore fans 100x not to hint about future episodes, especially significant information, unless a reactor specifically requests to know something, but they just don't GAF. Total shame.

zammmerjammer

I'm just interested in other fans' thoughts. So I guess anyone can send me a message if you want, rather than post a comment, in the interest of not provoking any further anxiety about "spoilers."

MCJS

Yes, absolutely the writers wanted to heavily imply that Mulder and Scully's relationship had become physical. When Gillian wrote the episode it didn't even have an ending scene.

Daniela Keller

Yes, it's interesting that the end wasn't Gillian's idea at all. Also in her original script, she had no intimate relationship with Daniel, the two came close to having an affair but Scully ended the relationship when she discovered that Waterston was married.

MCJS

I am not fond of this episode as a whole, but I love the beginning and the ending. The way Mulder looks at Scully after she has fallen asleep on the couch is just exquisite - beautiful and tender. That's love. 🧡 David is brilliant in that scene. I know Philes have many different theories surrounding this episode and MSR, but for me it's when they got together physically, (suggested by Spotnitz and I believe Carter.) There are also many theories as to what exactly happened after the couch scene. There are countless fanfics that attempt to answer that question!

Wolfgang Engel

Yeah, this episode received very mixed reviews from fans and critics. I wonder how much Gillian Anderson wrote this about herself and not about Scully. Gillian Anderson always was interested in new age stuff, and from what I know about her memoires, she kinda lived a sugarbabe life when she was young, hanging around with much older guys, mostly from rockbands. I can see what is about to dislike here for some shippers. But the episode kinda does its work. There's so much that can easily go over your head here. I think it does a lot for Scullys further character development. It's about her spiritual journey, starting as the hardcore sceptic, opening up more and more for other explanations, becoming a believer like Mulder. I mean, didn't you notice how often she agrees with Mulders explanations this season? This is a development. And most likely it won't stop there. Her professor here kinda is a Diana Fowley character. His job is to make Scully reflect on her own development to bring her even closer to Mulder. I know you might not be too happy with how they handle the Mulder/Scully relationship so far, but if you think how it started off with Mulders and Scullys conversation at the beginning of the season, the kiss in Millennium and now the hint that they already share the same bed, you could get the impression that they are on the right path. I feel like Mulders journey is kinda finished at this point, but Scully still has some interesting character development to come. Btw: I believe it was Chris Carters idea to make a hint that Scully and Mulder might have had sex, in this episode. There's something about this seasons episodes that kinda makes you think "meh", but makes a lot of sense if you go further. But I have to admit, after a very strong sixth season, the 7th might be my second least favorite of all seasons, just because a lot of this seasons episodes seem to be a bit off. Jumping the shark....

Demijan Omeragic

No anxiety, just stating the obvious. You specifically referenced "the events of a certain flashback episode in season 8" in connection to this particular episode. That's *clearly* a spoiler even though you might not consider it to be one. But I don't care anymore, and I'll stop reminding people of it. I'm sure if it bothers Shelley and Emily they will say so. I just went by how others react to such things, and it's usually not well received. A while ago someone dropped the name "CGB Spender" under the comments of another reactor who just started season two. Interestingly, I used to be like you (and others), and tried to somewhat "guide" reactors into making comments that I thought will be helpful, but in reality I was literally posting spoilers until people started criticizing me for it. No offense though. I am certain your intentions weren't bad (quite the opposite), but a spoiler is a spoiler. Like I said, do what makes you happy, as long as the reactor(s) have no issues with it. Peace.

zammmerjammer

My question was not a spoiler. And it wasn't in connection to this episode at all. I wanted to post it last week but I forgot.

zammmerjammer

And fanfics have spoiler tags! So it should be safe for Shelley to read any that only have spoilers up to this point. The Gossamer archive has story listings that are sorted based on spoilers for episodes, entire seasons, and both movies.

nerakx

GIRLS it did happen. i understand your initial letdown -i was doubtful the first time too- but you gotta pay attention to the details, season 7 is about the details. Scully WAS putting on her clothes at the beginning and mulder WAS naked on that bed... cc would never have green light a sex scene, but it did happens. Now was this their first time or did it happened before this episode? that's the battle between fans but they did have sex in all things 🔥, that's why txf make of fanfic a cultural fenomenon. In other themes, I remember Gillian talking about how she if could redone the episode, she would have changed her approach about the cancer/sickness she took because about what her sister or brother had to went through. Editing this part to add: maybe she said something like this not in reference to this episode but to scully cancer's arc

Demijan Omeragic

I disagree with many things in this post, but one thing I can definitely agree with, and that is, that season seven is also my personal second least favorite season of the original series, and for plenty of reasons. I mean I still consider some S7 episodes to be outstanding, but overall it's definitely a weak one for me.

Wolfgang Engel

It's not my second least favorite of the original series, but of the entire series. If were talking about the original series only, season 7 would be my least favorite.

Demijan Omeragic

Huh? Your question was literally a spoiler. Perhaps not specifically in connection to this episode, but to possible off-screen events from the beginnings of this season. You literally said there is a flashback episode in season eight which could be connected to these events. Mentioning this flashback episode and its possible relevance is literally a spoiler. YMMV on what a "true spoiler" is, but... yeah. I'll stop right here and let you have the last word. No offense really, but I'm just tired of sounding like a broken record on spoilers. Lol. Best wishes.

zammmerjammer

My comment was not a spoiler. You writing 12 paragraphs shouting "OH MY GOSH! THIS IS SUCH A MASSIVE SPOILER!!!" drawing undue attention to a very very very vague and innocuous comment and then justifying why you think it's a spoiler, as you do above, is MUCH more of a spoiler. And I did NOT say "there is a flashback episode in season eight which could be connected to these events" -- learn what "literally" means. YOU said that -- hence YOU are the one posting spoilers. I already said I thought to post the question last week but just forgot. I was tired of you sounding like a broken record on imaginary spoilers like 8 months ago. This is just ridiculous.

Fernanda Monteiro

Yes, they did it! Always the frustration to us, shippers...I know! But, they did it and that´s a fact! My theory: Scully woke up at one point, on his couch, and went to his room. The episode is all about how she sort of comes to terms with issues from her past that somehow still bother her. I feel like here she kind of breaks free and opens herself up to taking the next step with Mulder. He's clearly just waiting for her, it's her decision.

AdoptDontShopPets

I don’t even go here and just stopped by to see why this episode already has 25 comments. So I’ll just say from an uninvolved bystander’s perspective, any talk about future episodes is a spoiler. Maybe not massive, idk the show enough to say. It boggles the mind, though, how you think asking people to theorize about a future episode is not a spoiler for Emily and Shelley. It’s been 3 days so they may have already seen this thread, though still advisable to delete the op.

zammmerjammer

My question was not a spoiler. Asking people to answer a yes-or-no question about a future episode, the specifics, context, relevance, and meaning of which are not elucidated in the slightest, is not a spoiler.