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Kelly Parks

Nitrimine is featured prominently in several episodes of Agent Carter.

Kelly Parks

When they're watching the news the crawl at the bottom says "Gang War in Hell's Kitchen." That's a reference to season 2 of Daredevil. From back when the MCU was all connected.

Kelly Parks

Yep. Proud Boys, BLM, etc. Hate groups.

Kelly Parks

You're worried about people walking around with assault rifles? Interesting, because many inhumans -- Daisy included -- are far more dangerous. Which is exactly why the Watchdogs fear them and want them contained ("disarmed").

Nanci Fenstermaker

BLM is not a hate group. Proud Boys is. So are all the other White Nationalist Groups. Hate groups are becomign a huge problem in America.

Kelly Parks

The leader of the Proud Boys was Cuban. Not white nationalist. The Watchdogs are obviously not white nationalist -- Mac's brother was a member. And BLM burned down buildings. The Watchdogs destroyed a building too. You're letting your politics blind you.

Nanci Fenstermaker

I think you have missed the entire point of AOS and especially it's Inhuman storyline. The Watchdogs are the bad guys. They do not only want them contained - they want them registered and confined and dead. The confinement is a shout out to the Japanese detainment camps of WW@ which were so wrong. The registration also parallels that time with the Japanese people but also with the Jewish people durign WW2 as well. There are by far many more potential dangerous humans but no one goes around locking them up or demanding they register themselves or even all their weapons.

Nanci Fenstermaker

yes, people should worry about people walking around with assault rifles. Sicne most school and public shootings are done with them

Kelly Parks

No, Nanci, I didn't miss the point. I love the show but when the writers occasionally insert their politics I'm not shy about pointing it out. Yes, really super obviously, the Watchdogs are the bad guys. They're a terrorist organization being funded and equipped by a much larger terrorist organization (not unlike how Iran sponsors and supplies Hezbollah). But there's no way around the fact that some inhumans are really dangerous and in a post Chitauri Invasion, post Sokovia world that would scare a lot of people.

Laurel

AOS is not subtle about which side of the fence it sits on, nor is it cagey about comparisons to real life issues, and I love it so much for that!

Ian Fleming

"You're letting your politics blind you." There is no such organisation as BLM. It's a slogan. A three word statement to highlight the fact that the USA tends to treat its African-American population as a pest species; something to be controlled, contained, and eradicated when they are seen to be getting out of hand. The problem with the Black Lives Matter slogan is that it is a word or two short. The full thing should be Black Lives Matter Too.

Ian Fleming

Same. The depressing thing is that, when this episode aired back in early 2016, the image presented here of weekend warriors, dressing up in tactical gear and playing soldier, felt kind of silly. Everything that has happened in the real world since late 2016 has made me sit up and take more notice of these kinds of far right hate groups. Even as sanitized as it is for network TV, I tend to view the Watchdog stuff in AoS through a whole different lens now.

Ian Fleming

There is also a reference to the Damage Control organisation which will to greater prominence in later MCU projects.

Nanci Fenstermaker

It's funny how fiction can immitate real life or even predict it. By funny in this case, I mean tragic and sad. These right wing hate groups are becoming a real terrorist threat today. I love how the show showed that the people we so easily scared of the inhumans simply because they were different while they really should have been terrified of their next door neighbors instead.

Nanci Fenstermaker

Marvel has inserted politics and social issues into it's comics, TV shows and movies since day one. This is not new. And AOS does a great job of paralleling current time ( when the show aired (2013-2020) to real world issues. And I love the show for doing so.

Kelly Parks

The sky is blue. We are having a stating the obvious contest, right?

Nanci Fenstermaker

Oh boy. You see things thru rose colored glasses. You know many hispanics consider themselves 'white' - don't you? The Watchdogs is a parallel. Undocumented immigrants = Inhumans/Aliens. daisy even makes the connection in the beginning of the episode. It has been found that many fires started during BLM protests were actually done by counter protestors. Facts matter.

Kelly Parks

Nanci...I'm trying to be polite but you are just stating the obvious. X-men/inhumans/mutants/whatever have represented those persecuted for being different for many decades. Literally everybody knows this. You are not being insightful or profound. Please, get a clue.

Kelly Parks

Context. It's important. So remember last season when Robert and "the real SHIELD" took over Coulson's base? They did that out of fear of aliens. Specifically the fear that Coulson's impure alien blood compromised him and made him untrustworthy. They were fearful and insulting toward Daisy for the same reason. Where did this sentiment come from? It came from the Battle of New York, aka the Chitauri invasion, which is much more analogous to Pearl Harbor than 9/11. Think about the effect that had on the world -- discovering that 1) aliens exist and 2) they want to conquer Earth. Think about the worldwide fear in the aftermath of that event. And remember that at first both Mac and Bobbie agreed with the real SHIELD's point of view. Then in season 3: Inhumans. People with powers start popping up all over the world and it becomes widely known that these people are also part alien. The Watchdogs represent the extreme reaction in that they want to exterminate aliens but Mac's brother represents the average person who is fearful and just happy someone is doing something. My point being one of the many reasons I love this show is they think through the details of the wider MCU world.