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The X-Files - 8x1 "Within" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2024-01-15 03:46:59
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Wolfgang Engel

It wasn't really a shock for the fans, when we saw the new guy in the credits back then. We were well prepared. We knew that David Duchovny wanted to make some movies, and that he wanted more money from Fox, so they struggled with getting him to sign another contract. Gillian Anderson signed for 4 more seasons directly after the first movie, Duchovny only for 2. Wich means, there were some hard negotiations with Duchovny after season 7, wich led to the situation they got Duchovny only for a limited number of episodes in season 8. And the studio made clear from the beginning, that they were looking for a new main character, but not to replace Duchovny, but as an addition. So they were working hard to keep Duchovny in the show as much as possible. Chris Carter wrote multiple different ends for the season 7 finale, because they didn't really know where to go with the show at that point. Cancellation was no option, cause the ratings were still huge. Of course they didn't make Doggett too likeable in the beginning, they didn't want to mess with the fans feelings, so as fans we are going through the same mistrust as Scully here. But as much as we fans struggled with the situation, it was really an interesting new dynamic and a breath of fresh air. (I gave you the same amount of info we fans had even before season 8 started, it was all over the media. Even my little local german newspaper wrote about it, crazy how big X Files was)

MCJS

Just wanted to say that there were several reasons why David left. 1) The money issue actually went back to before Season 7. David sued Fox because he hadn't been paid the royalties due to him from past seasons. He won $20 million. David said he had fulfilled his contract and he expected (Fox) to fulfill theirs. 2) David had originally only intended to do five seasons, but then signed on for two more. Gillian signed on for four more. He had never wanted to carry on after seven seasons. 3) David felt that there wasn't really much more that they could do with the character of Mulder. 4) He did want to make films. It was originally intended for the series to end earlier and be followed by X-Files films. 5) David had signed up to film, 'Evolution,' which meant he wasn't available to take on more X-Files episodes once things were resolved. It's interesting to note that when Requiem was being written, CC didn't know if there would be a Season 8 at all and that's the reason there were so many callbacks to the Pilot episode.

Demijan Omeragic

Thank you Shelley and Emily for this awesome reaction video. Seasons 6 and 8 are among of my favorites. I hope you will love season eight as much as I do. Great stuff, the total opposite of season seven, in a positive way. Now a few remarks: 1.) Something to ponder is, what could the experiments on Mulder (and other abductees from Oregon and elsewhere) actually be for? It would seem unlikely that they're just being tortured for no reason. 2.) Yes, what you saw near the gas station was a "cloak" or energy field like the one in Oregon. It's shown twice in this episode, but pretty fast, so blink and you'll miss it. 3.) I really loved your analysis of the episode and most especially your analysis of John Doggett. 4.) About shapeshifting, we've actually seen more shapeshifters throughout the series. Yes, Jeremiah Smith, whom you mentioned, but also the Calderons from Christmas Carol / Emily, and of course Two Fathers / One Son. Of course I'm not counting Eddie Van Blundht. ;) 5.) The fandom is quite divided on season eight, because many fans, for some reason, view John Doggett as Mulder's "replacement" and some sort of "competition", when in fact, based on what we've seen even in this one episode, his character is actually nothing like Mulder. Can't freakin' wait for part two, "Without". :) And yeah... no matter how many times you implore people not to spoil things, they don't care. I don't think they have bad intentions, but... a spoiler is a spoiler. People assume that the reactor "must" know certain things, like how long Mulder will be absent, et cetera, but in reality, they don't know what the reactors want to know, at least most of the time, unless they specifically ask in the video.

Demijan Omeragic

Forgot to add to my last post... The brain disease / headstone thing. It is implied that those are legitimate medical records that go back for a year, indicating that Mulder really had an incurable brain disease, which he kept secret from everyone. He was going to doctors and getting treated, but he kept it secret. That's why Scully is shocked. The actual headstone doesn't have anything to do with his trips to Raleigh (where his mother is buried). Anyway... I hope you enjoy the next part.

nerakx

such a fun reactions. i'm so looking forward to watch you two go through the season and its storyline. i'm sad in the comments you're told about the real reason about mulders absence because it would have been fun to watch your reactions from episode to episode without knowing a thing lol. it's funny that duchovny later on was the most heartily interested in doing new seasons lol

Daniela Keller

Yeah, Duchovny dreamed of a big film career, but that never happened

zammmerjammer

Aw, that line from Doggett about how Mulder had nothing to hold onto, all his quest had been for nowt... but the look on Scully's face because of course he didn't know she was pregnant. much cry. lots sad. 😔

Demijan Omeragic

Yup, that's what I said earlier at the bottom of my lengthy post. It's a shame people cannot resist spoiling things. It's one thing if the reactor explicitly states that he/she wants to know something, but it's another thing to just post information. What one considers a "mild" spoiler or not even a spoiler can be a big spoiler to another person. In this case, talking about the length of Duchovny's absence is, IMO, quite a significant spoiler. But on YouTube videos it's even worse. People simply can't resist, unfortunately.

zammmerjammer

Explaining the widely reported fact that David Duchovny wanted to leave the show is not a spoiler, ffs. Hell, knowing that there will be only 9 original seasons, another movie, and then two revival seasons would be a "spoiler" then, as that is certainly info that no one had at the time. But DD wanting to leave and the contract negotiations and the deals worked out with the actors were well known back before and during the last few seasons.

Demijan Omeragic

Neither Shelley nor Emily knew that Robert Patrick is in season eight, much less in the opening credits as a main character. It was a huge surprise which IMO resulted in an even more enjoyable reaction video. So much about "widely reported facts". In actuality, to many newcomers, much if not all of what was "widely known" to us at the time during the show's original airing is not "widely known" to them. Some newcomers / reactors have no issues finding out certain details about the future, whereas others do. The mileage varies from reactor to reactor as far as what is acceptable and what is not. Posting how many seasons there are total, and how many movies, is not a spoiler. Posting details about Duchovny's absence, especially hinting about the duration of his absence, actually *is* a spoiler. Whether a reactor has a problem with this or not is an entirely different issue which I'm not getting into, since I cannot read minds like Gibson Praise. There was a reactor who actually even considered episode titles (!) spoilers, and did not want to know the title of any episode until after he had seen it. Totally overboard to me, but he asked subscribers to respect his wish. Another reactor asked specific questions what he wanted to know, and explicitly said what he did not want to know. Then again there are some which don't care, regardless what is posted in the comments. The rule I personally go by is, unless a reactor specifically expresses interest in knowing something from the audience, any information about the future carries the risk of becoming an unwanted spoiler for the reactor. And I'll give you the last word.

Wolfgang Engel

That's why no one told them anything about the future outcome. That's why no one told them, Robert Patrick will be a main character in season 8, before they saw the opening credits of the first episode. No one told them how long Duchovny will be abscent, how all of this will affect the plot, or in wich or in how many episodes he'll be this season. These things were widely known to fans back then. So I correct myself. They have less info now, than we had back then. All I did was explain to them, why Mulder is missing, and why they changed the opening credits. I didn't spoiler anything, I'll gave them background info, so that they don't have to google by themselves and accidently spoiler themselves. (I see them sometimes, doing a little research during their reactions, wich could tell them more than they should know at a certain time) Just like we gave them background info on Gillian Andersons pregnancy during season 2. But I kinda knew this would come up, and I kinda knew who would come up with this, that's why I closed my comment how I did.