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First Two Chapters of the next video (Patreon)

Published:
2024-05-20 01:41:12
Imported:
2026-06

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Hey everybody!

So, as it turns out I was much more productive than I thought that I would be and the new video on conservatives in horror will actually be out this coming weekend. It is four chapters long and each one covers a very different topic. I've had a lot of fun making this one, and I really hope you like it!

For the purposes of secrecy and having the video's intended response to happen I will need to keep the subjects of chapter three and four a secret until the day of release, but here are the first two chapters early. Also, I would appreciate it if nobody who are mentioned in these sections knows about this because I would like to keep this video more or less quiet until it comes out. I've actually never been this nervous before with a video project, chapter three and in particular chapter four became very difficult subjects to cover and there will be a pretty significant amount of people online who I fear will be very upset at me I think for talking about this. But I think this is important. This next week should at the very least be interesting.

Again, thanks y'all so much, I hope you enjoy this and I'll see you again very soon.

-Zane 

Chapter One:

https://youtu.be/W7i7TvSu_dE

Chapter Two:

https://youtu.be/u1g8UW1KLNo

Comments

Ray Cantwell

Your work is safe with us, Zane. We wouldn't want to spoil the reveal.

Joshua Anolick

Fascinating stuff, can't wait to see the rest! Most of the time it seems impossible to have a constructive conversation online. If there is anyone thoughtful and eloquent enough to inspire hope, it's you. I understand your nervousness in addressing these topics and admire your courage in speaking your mind.

Lyulina Gibinska

I am someone who jumps a lot between topics I am interested in, but your videos have held my interest for longer than the usual 2-3 months. I am sorry that you are going through this, as anyone who pays even half a mind can see how much thought, effort and love you pour into your videos, and they are wildly entertaining in a very narrow nerdy way that speaks to my very soul. I can't really give you any advise, but know that I will stick by you for as long as you keep doing what you are currently doing.

Dan Seymour

So sorry that you've had to deal with all that nonsense in the wake of Hills have Eyes. I've always appreciated the thoughtful and empathetic approach you take to all of the subjects you tackle no matter how obscure. Makes it even more frustrating to hear so many people mischaracterising your work. Wish you all the best and eagerly await the next two chapters!

Arcee the Autobot

Can't speak for everybody but the secret is safe with me. I obviously don't know if he's discussed or mentioned in this at all, but are you aware of the latest Richard Stanley news as it's similar to the Kevin Spacey situation? I haven't read the details yet but apparently Stanley got cleared of wrongdoing and that the accuser is facing perjury charges. Just thought I'd bring this to your attention since we were all excited to see where his Lovecraft trilogy would go before those allegations came out. I'm really sorry if this is way off topic from your video. I'm just assuming it is related based on that Kevin Spacey Twitter post.

praiseofshadows
>>138496357

I didn’t hear that at all actually, I’m going to go read into that because it is something I’ve not thought of now in a long while and didn’t know that there had been more information there.

John Cleveland

Conservatism: The intense fear that somewhere, somehow, someone you think is inferior is being treated as your equal.

oddoneindeed

Wild to see all the backlash for what I thought was a good video you made. Can only imagine what it has been like to keep this pent up. Like you said in this preview, people say something often enough and you start believing it. I know you don't need to hear this but, don't let their problems convince you this is a reflection of the quality of your essays or you.

Thegoodstuff

Excited for the rest of the video. I had no idea that all that stuff with the "Hills Have Eyes" video happened, and it is really mind-boggling. I think your most controversial statement comes from the "Alan Wake" video, where you said you never played the "Old Hunters" DLC. C'mon man, you lost some serious street cred for that blunder.

Christopher Wade

Christ... Ive seen just about every single one of your videos except for THHE. Not for any other reason but the fact that I simply did not like the movie and didn't care to go back to it. Its atrocious how many people refused to give you the benefit of the doubt and Im glad I've been boosting your videos regardless of the flack you've received. I'm really sorry you've been dealing with such unfairness in your life, man. Naturally, I wont share these clips til you're comfortable releasing them.

praiseofshadows
>>138561431

I’ve very much always appreciated your support, it has meant a ton to me, and yeah! It really caught me off guard at the time, I always thought it would just slowly fade away and be forgotten but they never let it go, and I decided I finally wanted to share my side of it if it wasn’t going to stop. I’ll be fine of course, but it definitely has been a very strange situation that I’ve never really known how to navigate.

Audrey fern

I had no clue there was such a backlash against the hills have eyes video, it's the one I revisit the most! I always gravitated towards your videos even from the return to Oz one because of your politics. I always appreciate when you call out art or a creator for sexist/homophobic/racist depictions, it feels very honest and transparent. It sucks to say but it's kind of just the trash taking itself out, which isn't great when you need to make a living but hopefully it fosters a more accepting leftist community over time

47Cartoonguy

I honestly had no idea THHI review had that much of a backlash

Drowsy Cattle

I would love to see a video from you on why you think horror is about love - I think that's a beautiful and counterintuitive idea, and I'd be so curious to hear you explore it in greater detail. Until then, would you be comfortable saying here (however briefly) what your central thesis would be?

armfalloffboy

I appreciate you breaking down the controversy of The Hills Have Eyes. I personally did not find anything offensive in your video. In fact, I know it opened my eyes to certain aspects of the film I missed. It's like having a conversation with a buddy who gives a different perspective, and I love that. I'm a director, so I know how it feels to have something you've poured your heart into get misconstrued and picked apart. I understand that once I put my art out into the world that it's out of my hands, but it doesn't mean the negative comments don't hurt. I may not always agree with your opinion Zane, but I for damn sure haven't felt that you deserve all the hate and vitriol you've received. There are only a couple of Patreon's that I subscribe to due to money issues, but I haven't regretted giving you my hard earned cash once. If I could give you more money I would, because I appreciate your thoughtfulness and how thorough you are with each essay. I know it's easier said than done, but don't give up. We have your back.

Kier Gomes

Watching it on YouTube now. 2 hours in and fully enjoying it. I also really respect the transparency as I’m sure we all do. Love your stuff dude. Glad to be here

frdric

So, I've been watching your videos for years and I think I've never commented on any of them. Just want to let you know that I consider you one of the finest video analysis creators on YouTube. You exemplify the level of media literacy the platform should aim to achieve. After watching you latest video I decided to become a patron (it also made me unsubscribe from a certain youtuber you talk about lol). Have you thought about making videos about Latin American horror literature? There are so many great writers that cover very deep political topics in their horror books, for instance Mariana Enriquez or Monica Ojeda.

Lividia

this video is what got me to you on patreon. I love, just adore your work, i've watched it all over the years. This video just gave me a new perspective on you as a creator, thanks for all your hard work and all you put up with. Also I recently watched the video about the witch in Morganton, I live in NC too, deeply sad yet accurate view of the town/area.

Britanni Dayton

I'm about half way through the full version on YouTube and I took a peek in the comments. The amount of dense minded hate is crazy to me. I'm over here enjoying your analysis and it's so dumb that people feel the need to take snippets out of context and completely misconstrue their meaning. I also appreciate that you drew the parallel between punk and horror. Horror is punk, and both are anti establishment. Conservatives keep trying to sneak in and we've got to kick them out.

Paul no

I find it a testament to the lack of media literacy from the people who didn't see your Hills Have Eyes dissection for what it was. At no point did I get any of those positions from your video. I'm sorry you get so much abuse for something fairly outside of your control. I have enjoyed all of your videos and have used them to bring friends deeper into movie appreciation.

Paul no

SHEEEEESH! Chapter four is SPICY but you came with receipts! Wendigoon has always rubbed me the wrong way, glad to see my gut wasn't wrong.

Aurora

Your work stands out because of the standpoint you give to media,it's what keeps me coming back and contributing to your patreon. I always look forward to your perspective and recommendations. It sucks you suffered financially for those things that make you shine I'll keep supporting you in the way I can . Best of luck and much love and appreciation for what you do,it matters!🙂

Optimus Crimes

Okay, needed to join up on patron after this last release because I actually really hate what happened to you. The internet is a cancerous place and the way that people were able to point outrage at you like a flashlight for others to follow is ridiculous. Your channel showed me how to enjoy horror films. Unironically I just kind of hated the genre for most of my life until someone with reading comprehension explained their language to me. I'll try to keep this short but I just wanted to be one of the people saying thank you for what you make and your art is worthy and important.

grigori karpin

I know you said you don’t look at YT comments anymore, so I’ll just copy and paste it here: I feel like I've been waiting for someone to make this video for a long time, I regularly talk with friends and my partner about the insidious creep of conservative voices in the horror world. Concerning the reception of the Hills Have Eyes vid, I think there's alot of trouble people have in listening to criticism of a nuanced basis. I watch your videos (and others) from a purely subjective perspective. Even if I disagree with something a video says, that doesn't make it somehow false. I think appreciating horror especially comes with specific requirements to be critical because of the conservative philosophy that sneaks in and the rough track record of horror cinema in general. I often have to consider horror movies by a different standard than other films, because there's such a hit/miss track record of films. So loving horror also comes with a need to be critical and nuanced. So, the idea that someone would watch a video, disagree with the assertions or interpretations in that video and then reject the author of the video seems ridiculous to me. I get that people tend to have no filter online and be particularly harsh, but there's no need to react so harshly against those people like yourself that are making content that is challenging and interesting, and for the most part to no cost of the viewer. Personally, I’ve always looks at things like class and socioeconomics in my analysis of Horror. I once got in a huge argument with someone by implying Bloodborne had progressive messages at it’s heart, that was a doozy. Anyway, I appreciate your interesting voice when it comes to horror and regret you got so much hate for an interpretation of the Hills Have Eyes vid. Also, in my experience, there's this weird brand of fandom that is all about being the loud discrediting voice. I write SCP stuff (eventually hopefully to be published) and there's this HUGE section of SCP fandom that is always coming in with the adage of "This is no good now, why is it all woke?" and "Why can't you all just write monsters anymore?" and overall saying the quality of SCP has somehow come down in the last ten years. And I am completely sure that the vast majority of people repeating this complaint a) weren't around for the early days of SCP and b) never really read them anyway. So, lots of people coming in to say "why can't you do the videos you used to do" and clearly never realizing your criticism has always been political in nature, really makes sense. I know it's easy to say "don't pay attention to those people" but god... your videos are wonderful and I hope you continue, and hope this downward trend goes away and your numbers start picking up again.

grigori karpin
>>138948682

Yeah he always gave me Youth Pastor energy (which is a bad thing imo) and so I avoided him for that, but goddamn this vid has blown me away with the receipts

Alex Lupella

Hey Zane, I appreciate your perspective and I can’t tell you how validating it was watching you talk about Blumhouse/fangoria circle jerk type of thing that’s been happening in horror for years. I have had almost the exact conversation with my partner for a while and was never able to properly articulate how I felt like horror refused to criticize itself. Partner and I left late night with the devil thinking we had lost our minds because we didn’t understand how it was getting such rave reviews. Made me feel a little more sane. I love work from a lot of the people you covered participating in this and I hope your video at least inspires one of them to stop taking Jason Blum’s money. What a hack.

Alex Lupella
>>138568453

I didn’t either! I was so shocked anyone would willfully suggest that video was “in support of cannibalism.”

LEAH HUMMEL

I think you gotta stop reading the comments on twitter and YT. Make content for us, your fans and not your haters.

praiseofshadows
>>139022697

That is the plan from now on. I never again want to deal with this. The rest of the year is designed to hopefully be a lot of fun from here on out.

Bumbles

This vid is what made me sub to your patreon! You're 100% right and I'd be repeating a ton of people already if I mentioned all of what I like, but I'm halfway in and this is so, so well written and my heart breaks for you Zane. You deserve far better than you've gotten. And as a Tsalagi out of NC you've never come off anti-native. You've always treated our community with kindness. Edit: The only fault you made in this video is the Sneako-sourced information, which in a 3 and a half hour long video isn't out of the ordinary or unforgivable. Hell, even Wendigoon himself admits it. I think he's tried to be better than he was but that also isn't enough. And ultimately I cannot support him based on the company he keeps and the fanbase he curates, let alone with some of the foul things he's said in the past. His fans are the sort of people that would call me slurs and wish violence upon me and I don't think he's done enough self reflection as to why that might be the case. Like you said, horror is punk, and punks have to tell nazi punks to fuck off. Otherwise we just enable their cruelty and fascism. You can't be a bystander.

The Duchess

I also joined in response to the video. I've been meaning to for a while!

energydiluted

I've been off Twitter for a while and had no clue about the Hills Have Eyes video controversy, and I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I know it's probably impossible to a degree when your platform gets to a certain size, but I do hope you can find a way to block out the haters and trolls who have no interest in intellectually engaging with your work, and you're able to focus on making content that you find fulfilling. That said, I also hope videos on "youtube drama" don't become more of a trend, because that can really drag down a good channel, and I'd hate to see it happen to one of my favorites. I get the need to go after Wendigoon as a right-wing version of what you do, but when you have to do a lot of "he said/she said" it gets muddy and can feel petty. Not to in any way defend those people, but I think taking down people like Jason Blum are way more worth the effort than a few shitty Youtubers. Mean this with all love and respect. PS your section on Late Night with the Devil did help change my neutral stance on AI in that film, so thanks for that. AI images really have no place outside of memes and shitposts anymore.

Jessica Starling

I’ve been meaning to sub to your patreon for a while, this video and the ensuing horror is what pushed me to. I hope you’re doing okay and know there are a lot of people who appreciate the things you create! 💕

Joshua Barrera

Given the response to your video it sounds like we are living in the Bad Conservative Horror Movie.

Shelby Parks

Idk how to get a message out at the moment where Zane will see it so this will have to do. Zane, I’m so sorry that the worst of the internet has been attacking you. I wish I could give you a big hug and make everything better immediately. Being openly leftist has always meant putting a target on your back and I’m so grateful for you and all of the other leftist YouTubers for opening my eyes to the injustices around me. I know the sheer volume of abuse seems larger than you can even comprehend but it’s just noise. You have just as many people who support you and that’s all that matters! Thank you again for all the videos, here’s to many more.

Shmitty

You know you are actively hyping up a sociopath right?

Nollek

Loved the video and sad to see all that work deleted, but that's what the far right want and just like you said in the video centrist create a path for them to do this.