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The Annex, Episode 101: PERFECTION (Patreon)

Published:
2024-05-06 16:00:15
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2025-04-28 15:39:00
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Welcome to The Annex, a brand new podcast from Secret Base. Please keep your arms and legs inside at all times. Every time we visit The Annex, we'll tour a new floor with a different theme, with a variety of segments that explore that theme.

Our very first visit is to PERFECTION. What is "perfection"? Who gets to decide what that is? We do.

00:00 - Introduction to The Annex

04:02 - Jon Invents the Perfect Baseball Player

14:18 - Seth and JZ Are Building a Statue

20:38 - There's Something In The Utility Closet

22:43 - How to Have The Perfect Work Day, a Presentation by Joe Ali

26:11 - Perfect Sandwich Meeting

43:22 - Kerwin Bell's Perfect Passer Rating

55:24 - Sir Donald Bradman, Please

1:24:43 - End of Shift

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mike

LET'S GO

Henry Stater

Holy shit yes… thanks Jon and SB team!!!! Can’t wait to listen!

Darius Jahromi

Don Bradman mentioned on secret base? This subscription is paying for itself!

Trevor Pierce

Awesome! There an RSS feed for other podcast apps?

Bobby Dubs

Do y'all have an RSS feed I can bung in my podcatcher?

SomeBloke

Tip for folks looking for the RSS feed as I just found it - if you go to Secret Base’s main Patreon page, it’s under your Membership tab.

Secret Base

Yes, there's an RSS feed! If I set this up correctly you should have an email with your unique RSS subscription link that you can plug into your podcast apps. Or go to the My Membership tab and you should be able to find your link there! But please let us know if you have any issues.

Adam

thank you kings

An Appalachian

So should everyone have got an RSS feed email, or do we have to ask for one? I'm new to this whole patreon experience but very ancient in the ways of internet protocols. Which while we're on the subject, where can we reach you via IRC, XMPP, or Usenet?

Johnny

So happy

An Appalachian

I found it in the membership section on the main page. Big shoutout to @SomeBloke

John Smith

The perfect baseball player scares me, but these events could happen in baseball.

CandGoods (and Services)

the Adventures of Pete & Pete is a major childhood favorite of mine, so I very much appreciated the discussion of Inspector 34 in the intro

dano

I eagerly await a 47-year-old throwing a 106 beanball in his first pitching appearance - could be next week as far as we know...

pdotjdott

Seth content 🥰🥰🙌🙌🙌

Raya Anura

JZ speaking facts 🗣️🗣️‼️‼️

RO

as someone who enjoyed many a 2010s video game review i appreciate the framing device of "the ancient mummy forces us to find the perfect sandwich"

mweepigeon

Loaded it up into my podcast app of choice and am just vibing. This is super fun!

Kyle Cholod

I did not expect Seth to pull out a cricket Miniclip flash game from my childhood, but here we are.

Saint Rocket

So when do we get our orientation packet?

lolplatypi

The podcast element of this patreon was the thing I was the least hype for. Boy was I wrong. I now have something wonderful to look forward to every month.

Brandan

I have to be honest, this first episode was not at all my cup of tea. I tried listening through the beginning of the “mummy” uh.. “sketch” and just did not really enjoy it. I applaud you guys mixing up the format from your usual videos, taking risks anlways encouraged, and I fully accept my position may be in the minority and I do not want to yuck anyone’s yum. That said, idk if the show is for me. But that’s ok.

Griffin Jones

Great way to reveal you've got a corked bat!

Austin Amburgey

Interesting omission in the end discussion - They changed gymnastics because of Simone Biles

James Valentino

I really appreciate you guys tackling different genres and formats of podcasting in these little segments. Super unique while still containing the elements that make podcasts great! Whoever at SB who came up with the idea has permission to use this comment as evidence of their genius. Feel free to screenshot and use in any petty office dispute 👍

DrChillbrain

This was amazing. I love the narrative elements and the thematic throughline through all the very different segments. Looking forward to the next episode!

Nathan Remaly

is there an RSS link somewhere for this?

Ian C

Can I just say that I’ve rarely to never seen a podcast be thoughtful enough to share a fully edited transcription? Definitely appreciated!

Ryan Simmons

Yep! You can find it in the Membership tab on desktop or in the three dots on the mobile app. Patreon should have also sent you an email - check your spam filter.

KingDonnybrook

I don’t know what I expected this to be, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Perfection is only interesting when it is found in the chaos.

Nullcasting

absolutely loved this, looking forward to ep 2!!

Maximillius

My soul left by body and ascended into heaven during the sandwich talk, god bless

Adam Foote

I think part of the Sir Donald Bradman story that is fascinating is that (if I recall correctly) he only needed 6 runs on that last at-bat to retire with a 100 batting average. This is usually quite achievable, but he weirdly got out super quick and will forever be THIS CLOSE to 100.

Secret Base

if i remember right, after being out he walked off and said something like "well, that's funny huh?"

Adam Foote

What I meant to point out is that if he hadn't done that final at bat I think he would've been over that century mark. Someone else should confirm that though. EDIT: I found the Numberphile video where I first heard this story forever ago: https://youtu.be/A8Tiba3h9Fw?si=dGwCz_-Njr5SvLSz

John Smith

Production quality is through the roof

liam says sorry about the long name

speaking from an English perspective on the Don Bradman stuff - genuinely so well explained even with jargon slip ups here and there. Don Bradman is *always* the athlete that comes to mind when people talk about perfection or the greatest etc, and it's not necessarily relevant to how good a batsman he was but he was also, from what I understand and might admittedly be a bit lionised, a solidly good guy and very much what you expect an Australian to be (mostly modest but infuriatingly better at sport than any Englishman). If people want an in depth look at that Ashes tour, there's a great Miniseries called Bodyline that covers it and the key people involved, including Douglas Jardine who was the England captain (in a sport where the captain is as important as the HC or manager in other sports). Lot of the controversy about Bodyline, aside from what is covered in the podcast, is the general class-based politics involved (English team was still heavily split between amateur 'gentlemen' and professional 'players', as well as the colonialism that Seth alluded to) and also Bodyline tactics are so dangerous! Getting hit on the head by a cricket ball can and will kill you and this was at a time when there were no helmets. Bodyline was unsporting and that's bad enough in 1930s cricket, but you're also genuinely playing to hurt your opponent. Don't want to sound like a 'well, actually' guy because this was really fascinating, love that you had a chance to look up Bradman in detail, and the podcast (and all your stuff) is brilliant. Hopefully this just helps someone new discover how weird but amazing cricket is and if not that some Aussie here gets a buzz knowing that the English are still jealous of Bradman. Like what the hell.

tvsmichaelhall

Thank you very much sb. In regards to the questions posed about me... The tone of my comments was polite consistency under the assumption it wouldnt actually happen. Like you said, you are american, you dont follow cricket much less make content on it. But you do love stats and you do love stories and your content is the best on youtube. I just figured if i asked nicely every time maybe one day youd read it and have your interest piqued. The reason i asked for Sir Don in the first place is i truly believe he is the greatest sportsperson of all time (an incredibly biased but arguable opinion). Cricket has changed little over the years and and in each period the average for the best batsman has been relatively steady between 50 and 60 runs. To be 50% better than the next best athlete to ever compete made him an easy choice to ask for. Phelps, Serena are some other contenders, but those records i believe are more likely to be broken than 99.94. Plus only needing six runs to finish with a 100 average and getting out for 0 is very funny. I also love cricket and i want as many people to hear about it as possible and your audience has a lot of people who have sadly never had the joy of cricket being part of their lives. I think you guys did an excellent job trying to wrap your heads around the lingo and hitting the major beats of Bradmans career. If just one more person gets into cricket even a little from this, every single one of those comments was worth it. Also, on bodyline, the goal was bean balls moreso than just leg side. The idea was to aim for batsmans ribcage and up and nobody wore pads and helmets. It wasnt just considered ungentlemanly it was considered barbaric. Thank you again for being such a great source of entertainment and information and thanks for telling the Sir Donald Bradman story.

Secret Base

hey liam, will here, together we form a full willliam. thank you for writing this and i appreciate you battling through my struggles with cricket language. this was maybe the most daunting topic i'd looked into and every aspect i looked into found so interesting. that breakdown of bodyline is fascinating and i suppose not surprising (re: class-based politics). setting a reminder to check out that miniseries, appreciate you

Secret Base

i feel like i'm talking to a celebrity. there's no chance i/we did sir donald justice, but we were long overdue on giving it a shot. we specifically wanted to do right by you and there's no way to express our gratitude for you and your commitment to sticking around secret base - even if you were just clicking on a video, immediately pausing and leaving a comment. we'd be cool with that.

Secret Base

oh hey just responded to michael that I want to watch this and you've made it easy - thank you!

Cazenovia

Was the "Phil's samurai sword lesson" line in the intro a reference to The Microphones?? If so, I need to know which one of you slipped that in there lol

Reneg3r

You’re welcome.

tvsmichaelhall

Stop being so humble, its unamerican. The reason i kept asking is because youre the best in the game. I think you did an excellent job (ill thumb wrestle anyone who says otherwise) and today more people know about the don than yesterday. Fantastic pod btw.

supercres

Great first outing. Can’t wait to hear more of mommy’s instructions.

FC

You're underselling Bradman's average. If you're over 45 you're a great batsman, if you're over 50 you're an all time great and a household name. Of the 3178 batsmen in test history: There have been 26 batsmen ever with an average of 50-55 (standard limits for small sample size) There have been 10 batsmen ever with an average of 55-60 Above 60 there's: Bert Sutcliffe: 60.73 George Headley: 60.83 Graeme Pollock: 60.97 Adam Voges, a guy who only played for one year after making his debut at 35: 61.87 Harry Brook, a kid who has only played two years of test cricket at this point: 62.15 and counting .... .... .... Bradman: 99.94

A Corphish Wearing A Crop Top

yeah. its pretty weird, and not really what i expected. like, they deff put a lot of effort into the framing and its cool in theory but it doesnt really come together imo.

Cristina Almaraz

Hell yeah. Some folks might not jive with it but this is exactly what I want from sb, and I'm really not a podcast person. Also, here's my petition for having Graham MacAree be on an podcast or column, I still think about some of his articles on the sb website, they were always on the most random and fascinating topics

Michael Roston

I liked the “game within a game” bit and it reminded me of the great days of Devin Hester’s returns for the Bears. Football was a lot more fun when he was doing that.

duncathan -

I have immediately been sucked in by the kayfabe this is beyond excellent (do they have a word for that?)

easports

The first 20 mins might have been the funniest thing I'd heard in a long time, capped by the bronze statue bit. Was not expecting the podcast to be something like Aperture Science but sports. Feels like the bits from previous SB videos, but in audio form gain a much wider and richer scope.

Timothy Estabrooks

For what it's worth, pro bowling already takes steps to ensure 300 scores don't become super commonplace. They do this by laying down complicated and tricky oil patterns on the lanes to ensure the players need to be supremely accurate in order to get the ball break they want. Plus, the oil pattern literally changes every time a ball rolls down the lane, so every shot is a little bit different. A pro bowler could hit a 300 frequently at your local alley on a Wednesday night, but doing it in a tournament setting is very different.

dano

Now that we know how cricket works, we need some more episodes! Love from Australia

JW

Can I ask the Cricket fans in attendance here if there's "Bradman played against plumbers" guys or is that miserable school of thought mostly quarantined to American sports?

Matthew Cull

Much less so than in American sports I believe! But also: his record is so much better than anyone else's from the period (and everyone since!) that he really must have been something a bit special.

wossa

yes its a thing but mostly because he never played in asia and they're the biggest parts of the cricket fanbase, but also a fair criticism considering how different the conditions are there

what's for dinner

Hearing about cricket and Bradman from your perspectives was really excellent. Whole episode was mint!

Bobby Dubs

Every morning I get a new episode notification for this episode - which is weird, because this is the only Patreon RSS feed to do this (re-announce an episode already heard), and I have had around 10+ Patreon subs over 5+ years. Anyone else noticing this behaviour?

burtalert

Dumb question, still new to patreons is there a way to get this podcast outside of patreon? Or can I only listen to it here

Bobby Dubs

There's an RSS link in the Membership tab of the website

Ryan Simmons

Weird! We’ll look into it but we’re not doing anything new on our end

An Appalachian

What podcatcher are you using? I'm using antennapod and not experiencing issues

Daniel Bingham

I'm also getting the issue on podcast addict

Golfhaus

New. Favorite. Podcast.

Jonny Barrett

Loved this so much, love all you guys but, as an Englishman, I think hearing 3 Americans repeatedly refer to a ball in cricket as a “pitch” may have given me stress induced ulcer

TheWanderingBard

I think the fact that cricket focuses so much on international competition probably helps. The perceived prestige of the national teams for Australia or England, even back in an era with less sports science and support for athletes, makes Bradman's play feel significant even if bowlers today can bowl faster or move the ball more. Also the fundamental approach of batsmen in cricket has probably changed less compared to huge evolution in what american football or basketball looks like at the pro level from early days to today. So you don't get that sense of Bradman having excelled at skills that are no longer relevant.

TheWanderingBard

Loved the bit on cricket - with the loose and imaginative approach SB takes to sports, bringing in little anecdotes and facts from more niche sports around the world could be a cool feature for this podcast (obviously takes some research from y'all, but you're pros at that). Now do some stuff on Aussie Rules Football. I think there's one(?) video on the youtube channel focused mostly on interchange rules - which is a shame for what I'd (biasedly) call the most exciting moment-to-moment spectator experience in sports, and for a league with history going back to the 1800s.

May the sun shine eternal on the Great Comrade PVL

Love this as an Australian, would love to see more cricket content (especially since it's gonna be played at the 2028 Olympics) , or AFL or rugby. If I were to recommend anything, look at Glenn Maxwell's 201 run performance at the Cricket World Cup last year. One of the best batting performances of all time, with playing in near 100F heat, carrying his whole team on a busted back.

Frink Zippi

i love this freeform audio magazine

yeow

Was not expecting Jon to say hi to me at the beginning