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Spider-Man 2 (2004) (Patreon)

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2022-04-30 22:28:49
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Full link: https://youtu.be/tKW9QJ6gL-8

It's suuuuper late here, so I'm going to just wish you a lot of enjoyment out of this one!
Goodnight!! :D 

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Comments

Meia-noite

It was nice to have the opportunity to see these movies again. When I first saw them, I was very young, and now I realize that they convey very important values, and a vision that i didnt had the maturity to understand at that time.

Zach Strand

You should watch Sonic the Hedgehog!

Mr. Writhms

Mary, I understand your reason for favoring Holland’s Spider-Man over Maquire’s. You mentioned feeling reluctant to seeing the new Batman movie, being you only know Christopher Nolan's Batman. I think you should have a look at Zack Snyder's Batman in the DCEU as well. There are 3 three different eras. Nolan's Batman depicted a middle-aged Bruce Wayne, in his mid 30s in his prime. Zack Snyder's (DCEU) Batman is older nearing 50, with an edgier and angrier approach. "The Batman" (2022) is the youngest and not as experienced. Of course the DCEU must be watched in order, starting with “Man of Steel" (2013).

Daryl

Glad you enjoyed this one a little more. I do think that it is the best of the three

Jack the Narrator

That was indeed Emily Deschanel a.k.a. "Bones" as the woman in the office building that Peter delivers the pizzas to. She made this movie about a year before being cast on the hit TV series.

Connor Ellis

I love all of the Spider-Man films so much but this one will always be my favourite.

Tyler Foster

This one is widely-considered among the best superhero movies ever made, so you are not alone in thinking this one is better than the first one. At the time, the third one got a very strange reception, but I think that it's better than its reputation -- in general, the thing that made Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy special is how attuned it is to the challenges of people transitioning from being teenagers to being adults. As you clearly saw from how dramatic the movie is, this one deals with a lot of complex human emotions, in a way that the MCU does not always have time to do with its complex, multi-layered plot (and this is not a dig at the MCU, it is just about how much differently they make superhero movies now). I also think the view of the third movie has softened over time because it is no longer the only interpretation of Spider-Man out there (much less the only one that was controversial with people). It is crazy how invested I am in you getting to Spider-Man: No Way Home, even though we are less than halfway through the other movies you are going to watch first.

Thomas Yanez

In case anybody else finds the info useful : this is the theatrical version, which I can only find in the U.S. on Amazon Prime for $3. It is arguably a better cut, even though the extended version does provide some extra plot info.

Eric

I mean, you say you enjoyed this one more because you had to get used to Tobey. That may be true, but it's also just a better movie. The MCU is, honestly, so much better; that's a credit to the comic book/superhero movies that came before it: the MCU built on all of them, learned what to do and what not to do. It's hard to say that any of the pre-MCU movies are better, but I think some of them really nailed the right tone, and elements of it were good enough that the silly parts are easy to forgive (and in some ways, those silly moments are what make them so fun, so... you can at least argue they're a feature not a bug). I really think the first 2 Supermen movies were like that (if you end up watching them, the 2nd ought to be the Richard Donner Cut); the first 2 Raimi Maguiderman movies were too. The casting is so bad - I love Kristen Dunst as MJ, but... they're all in their 30s and they're supposed to be, like, 16-20 in the first 2 movies (that train scene is good, but they react like "he's just a kid" and, um... he's 35), and they REALLY shove in everything bad happening to Pete. That's kind of his character, the downtrodden regular guy trying his best, but it's not normally *that* bad. In hindsight, more than anything else, I think the voiceover ought to have been scrapped. (Although it worked for Harry/Green Goblin, but only him, IMO.)

Eric
>>83060197

Some may consider this a spoiler, but I disagree: it's about setting expectations properly; I think you can read this and, if anything, hopefully it'll help you enjoy the remaining three more, not less: The next 3 - Spiderman 3, Amazing Spiderman 1 & 2 - aren't nearly as good. The problem with 3 is that the money people forced Raimi, the director, into including a very popular villain who he didn't really understand or like. Without knowing what the character is *supposed* to be, maybe it won't bother you, but I think you'll pick up on the villains not working nearly as well as they did in the first 2. ALSO, it's just overstuffed with... stuff. Too much is going on, it's not as cohesive and on-topic as the first 2, it kinda meanders. Amazing Spiderman 1's biggest problem, by far (IMO) is that it's a bad *Spiderman* movie. But that may not bother you... I don't think it's a very good movie, but it's been a while... given that you're not a huge Spiderman fan - not really familiar with any of his story/history/lore outside the movies you've seen - you probably will enjoy it well enough if it's a good movie even if it's a bad portrayal of Spiderman and... it might be? I find it hard to judge the first thing because I didn't like the second thing, but... given your general positive attitude, I think it'll probably be at least mostly fine. The 2nd though? It's the worst, by far; it's essentially the same problem as Spiderman 3 on steroids: just EVERYTHING is going on, and it's not really a coherent story just a bunch of shit shoved into a movie that should've been several movies; one assumes the money people wanted to set up an expanded cinematic universe, but the way to do that is to tell good stories and build on them, not to make a big easter egg of expanded stuff and call it a movie. So... it's just a lot, it's not terribly cohesive or coherent... but I'm guessing you'll do the thing where you find elements of it that you like, that have potential, and appreciate that.

Eric
>>83060197

Also, they retcon something in 3; I won't spoil it, but the retcon is really, really distasteful, IMO. (I'm pretty sure in *everybody's* opinion.)

Richard Maurer

Even though I started out with this Spider-Man, I prefer Tom Holland. He comes closest to the comic version of the character, imo.

Tyler Foster
>>83060197

I disagree. ASM1 is easily and by far the worst of the bunch. I think ASM2 is actually better than at least 1 of the Holland movies (I have never thought Homecoming was more than okay), and even though I do like SM3, it's better than that one too. I only thought it was decent in theaters, but seeing it for the first time since then just a month ago with someone who hadn't seen it, I was really impressed by how much I liked it. Garfield and Stone are both great with outstanding chemistry, the dramatic core is strong, and Foxx is a fun villain. I could definitely have lived without the holdover footage from ASM1, but that's my only complaint.

Travis

A lot of people like Tobey because he was the first and he played the nerdy Peter role well, but I think Tom Holland is the perfect Spider-Man. He was cast as the correct age (tobey was way to old to playing a 15 year old) and he does the perfect blend of nerdy and cool. His physicality is also much better.

Mike LL

I really like this comment section. A lot of people defend the Tobey Spider-Man because he was the first one they saw and, nostalgia. He is fine of course, but he was always miscast, because he was just too old. That is what they finally got right about Tom Holland, Spider-Man was always meant to be a teenager. And you are not alone in thinking this movie was better than the first one. Just about everyone on the planet agrees with you. The one thing about this Spider-Man series is that it doesn't have to worry about 15 other superheroes like the MCU does, I enjoy that focus.