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American History X (Patreon)

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2023-03-07 19:46:02
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Full link: https://youtu.be/3lelt1QtgZ4

After some fuzzy animated movies, we dive right back into the hardcore movies :)! And hardcore it was... it's sad how the circle keeps going and it's so hard for them to actually step out of this mindset and lifestyle. That ending was a gut punch.

Is this a movie you enjoyed? I can totally see it being one that some people really like and some don't at all. Let me know!

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Don Mayhem

OMG, I didn't think you ever get around to watching this. Hopefully this movie didn't mess with your blood sugar too much. I thought you might have forgotten about this movie and moved on. I'm just worried you about some of the scenes in this movie being so violent. Edward Norton does a great acting job, but he is known for being a control freak with movies he has no hand in making. Just being an actor for a film. People at Marvel had issues with him trying to change the storyline of The Incredible Hulk. Which is why thy recast him for Mark Ruffalo. How about Spider-Man Into The Spiderverse request?

Tony Williams

Love me some Edward Norton, but this is one that I have purposely avoided for personal reasons. It may be time to finally sit down and watch this one. One quick suggestion for another film he is in that I think you would enjoy is Rounders with Matt Damon. Pretty good little poker flick. Also has John Malkovich and John Turturro. They all give quality performances.

Carlos Hurtado

Going from Disney's Up to American History X, is quite the switch up 🤣

ChickensAreRacist

I’m excited to see your reaction to this massive, important movie. We kinda laughed at how wrong we were given Up was the first movie after your wonderful announcement. We assumed there’d be a noticeable pattern of content. Well, this movie choice showed we were wrong haha.

Curaitis

Never was a fan (even if it is a good movie) of it but its an important one you have to watch atleast once. Edward Norton is great as always. Thanks Mary.

Don Mayhem

The original ending was Derek shaving his head and becoming a Skinhead again. Going back to his old ways again, but I'm happy they didn't go with that. This ending is I think its saying is it's all hate no matter what color you are. Yeah there's hard to watch scenes, but it's telling a story of someone becoming a skinhead because of his dad and has unlearn it. Makes me wonder how the mother Doris ended up with him if he had these racist views?

Blake Robert

BB soon I hope! It has been a while. Thanks

shaneth138
>>103540071

Yeah I was going to say this movie isn’t my thing at all but good to see at least once.

Jeffrey Miller

This came out when I was around 15 or so, and I've watched it a few times over the years and honestly it doesn't hold up for me. I just don't find it nearly as profound or as interesting than I used to. I feel like it oversimplifies racism to it's detriment. Derek talks about all this knowledge Sweeney has imparted to him, but we don't hear any of it. I would have loved to see Derek actually question his beliefs which he had embodied to the fullest before he went to prison. Instead it basically looks like Derek isn't racist anymore because he had to work with a black guy who was nice to him and made him laugh. Even his path to becoming a neo Nazi is unexplained. His dad says some racist stuff and... he's willing to commit serious crimes and manslaughter because he's preparing for the coming race war? Sounds like there has to be some other things happening. It's like the movie took out the parts that would have been interesting and insightful. I think the ending is pretty cringe, too. It feels like it's there so white people who watch the movie and say "See, they do it too!" Like, was the black kid a part of some Black separatist movement? Was he a part of a gang that committed hate crimes against white people? Does he hate all white people, or just Danny? It's an elementary school description of racism.

Future_Boy85

I first saw American History X years ago by chance. I was channel surfing late at night and came across it on the Independent Movie channel. If I can remember correctly I caught it at the part where they were playing basketball and I recognized Edward Furlong. I was glued to my TV. Didn't matter that I missed a good chunk of the movie either. I had to finish watching it and I was in complete shock. Especially by the curb stomp scene. At the time I had never seen that in a movie before. Its a very good movie with a sad ending. It definitely shows the senseless cycle of hate/violence. Years later I went to college and majored in Criminology. I studied different gangs and terrorist groups like neo-nazis/skinheads here in the U.S. As you said in your reaction Mary. It's scary cause it's real and it also seems to be everywhere.

offbrandhotdogs

Jeffrey's right that this movie is great at showing the consequences of racism, but isn't great at showing how the racism starts in the first place. So here's a very simplified explanation of contemporary American racism: Basically racism is a convenient scapegoat to give to people who are afraid and uncertain. So why are people (particularly in this case, white middle class Americans) afraid and uncertain? 1. The civil rights movement worked (and is still working) to even the playing field. White Americans are no longer living the easy life on the backs of a subjugated class of people. 2. Unchecked capitalism is destroying the middle class. Gone are the days of supporting a family on a single income. So people are living in uncertain times. The American dream of getting married, having kids, and settling down in a house with a white picket fence is up in smoke. So who do we blame, right? This has to be someone's fault. This is where wealthy politicians and soulless grifters step in to hijack the message. They'll come along and say that civil rights are a zero-sum game: every right that a minority citizen gains is a right that was STOLEN from a majority citizen. Or they'll try to say that the failing economy is the fault of immigrants, or affirmative action, or welfare queens, or whatever. They will do anything to shift the blame away from themselves and on to a minority group. And the worst part is how easy it is to be intellectually lazy and accept racist beliefs at face value. You just have to ignore a couple logical fallacies and a whole lot of history (that's too boring to learn anyways) and the answers are all there. That's the (very) simplified explanation how the working class getting boned isn't the fault of the wealthy, it's the fault of minorities within the working class Also, if you're still looking for a movie about the KKK, you should check out BlacKkKlansman (2018) a true story about a black cop and a Jewish cop who infiltrated the Klan back in the 70s.

Anonymous
>>103574743

Yea, I was gonna suggest BlacKkKlansman too as a film about the KKK (or KkK as in the title). But it's a film I'm hesitant to suggest right away just cuz I feel Mari should watch more Denzel movies first (only seen Glory), before being introduced to his son. And also "Do the Right Thing" is a great intro to Spike Lee's work, to establish who he is as a filmmaker.