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Every time I have to embed a video on here, I'm reminded that vimeo was a thing for pira*y anime streaming sites back in the 2010s and that it still exists today.

If you play it in full screen, the scene does slightly pixelated. I only realized it after exporting all 7 of the animations, I'll rework it when time allows.

There's going to be quite a few "hidden(nah not really)" variations that I'll be working on for the release.

This is the bakery's equivalent of hidden ntr with minigame except it'll likely utilize more pixel scenes and that I'll bump it's priority higher than the current dinner dash-cooking minigame that the beach bar has.

That's all for spoiler-free and the "surprise me" audience. I won't trouble you if you rather not, but if you would like to chime in, keep reading.

First, let's call this new minigame Bartending so it's easier for us to be on the same page (it's not really as sophiscated as VA-11-HALL-A). This is not a part of the Dinner service minigame (so it's not start dinner service -> it being one segment of it. But as a separate thing.)

Remember this?

Right now, I'm debating whether..

It should appear here (obviously after the relevant story event) and that I'll ditch the entire "Sending Shion inside" segment and replace it with "It'll only show during Bartending segment". So the original minigame still exist except you don't have the option to send her inside.

Except I don't exactly want to unless absolutely necessary. Because I want this minigame to be chaotic since if you've noticed, Shion and Jords aren't going to be the only ones visible. There's NPCs, there's real potential here to make use of the screen space.

But I badly wish to do something with the CCTV-Preview mechanic and include it here too.

It's a real dilemma.

Current suggestion (from myself to myself):

Imagine a phone screen held in landscape here and what shows here is what's happening inside but obscured by darkness. It will likely be pixel art or stupidly close up shots of new 2d images.

If your answer is you'd much prefer pixel art, keep in mind that kind of puts a damper on the effect it'll have on you seeing the hidden h sprite for the first time in the overworld. I thought of that too and came up with the solution below.

I just worry it is slightly too convoluted but I'm putting this out there for opinions.

After Shion strip for the first time for onlyfaps,

if the player does the Beach Bar dinner service without doing the Bartending first..

And the player send Shion inside, turn on the camera, the player won't be able to see it in full, and will instead get a censored screen. Unless they get a certain item from completing the Bartending segment with the relevant scene.

Similarly, if they go into the kitchen, they won't be able to see any much of sprite animation and I'll black out the room. Unless they get a certain item from completing the Bartending segment with the relevant scene.

So it'll be "hidden", like really hidden.

And to get this item (I can't even fathom what the fuck kind of item can manipulate a hidden camera through a laptop but I'll cross that bridge when I get there), the player has to run the Bartending and see the relevant stripping scene (not in the video above but use your imagination). And after completion, he gets an item that he can "use" on the Laptop/Monitor/CCTV during Dinner service minigame that uncensor/unobscure the cctv (inside).

Also unlocks the inside view of the room for the overworld (free roam).

This allows for when the CCTV appears for the "first time" (assuming the player chooses to do Dinner run over Bartending) to be hidden and build suspense and then he has to get whats happening by jumping over to Bartending.

Obviously if he does Bartending first, it'll also be interesting since he'll see it for the very first.

This is to create the element of surprise that Jords route has been missing and how I don't want to make the CCTV just...appear like that.

If you're wondering what the hell am I going on about, please understand that I do feel the same way and we'll see how it goes once the update is out.

It does have the problem of adding to the grind though since now players have to do both minigames. I'll try to make Bartending as fast paced as I can.

Keep in mind, this is not to extend playtime god no, in fact I would much prefer to shorten the time players spend on my game with what's currently out while still keeping the same quality and impact. Rather, I just don't know the perfect solution to how to combine what I already have and what's new.

I'm also looking to add one more scene to what Jords already have prior to Peach Garden and with this new minigame in and how much I'll need to draw, Side quests is shelved till next update. I hope I have the time to add one more scene to Jords, of course.

There's also this part, remember? Where Shion remains outside.

This will also be fun on its own to come up with the Bartending equivalent.

I think this is an example of wanting to enhance a section (beach bar minigame) with new ideas and what I've learnt with the engine (and the genre) that my previous implementation (dinner run game) doesn't fully allow. Honestly, I'm this tempted to nuke the entire dinner run game and just make it bartending but there's actually still value in there. There's also the fact that I've done a bunch of work on the "CCTV/livestream" animations already (not just what we already have but for the upcoming update too.)

By the way, the new mechanic I mentioned previously is not this, it's something else that has now been shelved all the way for Peach Garden focused events. Sorry about that, but hopefully I'll be able to implement part of it during this update.

If this looks like I'm overdoing it (along with the new phone mechanic) because a few of you praised the Bakery's minigame, you are absolutely right and I have no excuse because I promise you in exchange for all this new stuff, we're only moving like, half a mile, in terms of story for this update.

Please be patient with me but also, do look forward to it too.

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Nameless6968

You could do something like mc gets a mini cam and place it inside rm.

TWA

Interessting. to be honnest, expending the "base" part of the minigame (the one we already have) could be with the Bartending. What I mean is, Shion does her job with the clients as do we. Then at the end of that part of the minigame, she is turned on/pissed off, and goes inside to get away from the clients. We then transition to the bartending. it would be logical since a lot of bars switch from table service to bar service towards the end of the workshift. Our dear and lovely Jords would take advantage of shion being away from the masses then. So this could be intergrated to the minigame. Or is it inteded to be a similar thing to the "fix the generator" part of the bakery route ?

7RKguy

That's an awesome idea, I did consider that but the thing is I don't want the segment to be that long (when you combine both, it'll become lengthy). Although I'll have to really try it out to see if it works, thank you for that though!

FakerFan73

I really love the idea of a seperate bartending game that is very similar in spirit to the bakery minigame or the one where u had to fix the generator for masaru, the peeking mechanics are always awesome especially when u progress through the route and see Shion evolve in the minigame aswell. I personally think that it's good to seperate the part where u send Shion inside and have it be this instead but have it still be connected to the former minigame (as the comment before pointed out it could serve as a second phase sort of).

Elmer Fudd

Perhaps it becomes similar to how the bakery minigame had the three different levels to see longer scenes? Regardless, I’m excited to see how this gets folded in.

ZMFINGA

Thanks for the update! The new bartending minigame looks to be pretty good! I like how simple it is and it builds the Beach Bar storyline so it ties in really well with the initial storyline of MC trying to improve the village like his father (Ex-Mayor) in order to clear the house debt he incurred. This and how this route is interconnected to the future Mayor route could help build the overall world-building of Seaside village. I also like the constructive thinking and feedback everyone has been giving. I'll chime in too! Gameplay wise, I would hope that this bartending service can actually replace some aspects of the dinner service as we improve the Bar e.g QR code ordering from tables to skip ordering, ready-made or frozen food to skip picking no. of ingredients or cooking, or collect at counter to skip delivery of foods. Unsure of how technically challenging this is, but that would be my direction of improving the Beach Bar itself. So far outside of the CCTV, the gameplay of the Beach Bar is far more difficult and frustrating than the Bakery and it does put me off doing it after the first few times. I think a possible solution you might want to look into for obscurity is how early SAO NTR depicts the hidden NTR while events are happening via sudden temporary pop out slits of fondling, penetration or finish. These are small pieces of art that just pop out and builds huge tension as you rush to complete the event. For a beach bar equivalent minigame...I have a few ideas? The most extreme one being handling complaining customers where she's getting degraded from saying lewd things to boob graffiti to twisting nipples or soft biting their thumbs to mimic further involvement. A submissive Shion at this point doesn't seem too in place, but further down the line it might be a consideration? Another end of the spectrum is live entertainment where she can dance and be as dominant as possible showing more skin and doing more lewder idol poses as it evolves. All of these seems to be in Shion's POV and it might be a good consideration to have the player play as Shion in some aspects! Good gameplay rewards NTR scenes and bad gameplay reduces the Beach Bar rep, or loss of money or Jords affection or MC fatigue to do anything else. In other news, I got curious as to why sometimes CCTV cameras are so blurry and bad; it's because they need huge storage! Something dropped from completing the Bartending segment could be a larger storage USB or a better wifi/bluetooth dongle from a disgruntled customer of Ota. I think I have written more than the dev diary here 😂, but regardless please treat my suggestions as considerations only and my huge love for the game and your potential! Stay well!

TWA

Yes, if we get three level of minigame like bakery, the third one could be her coming out, back serving the clients. A good opportunity to have some group action (so high-er level of corruption).

TWA

Using her past as an idol for corruption events would be amazing, both the event and the storytelling (because you end up corrupting her past in a sense).

archer123321

Thanks for the update. While I commented on the previous phone mechanic, I actually think it’s worthwhile to be updating the minigames (like you did for the bakery). Even though the progress of the story slows down, it’s certainly more immersive to be able to see how Shion’s day to day life and relationships change/escalate after the “big story events.” I think the concern for the length of the mini game is reasonable, but I’m personally fine with it as long as there’s enough “reward” (seeing the little cctv, new animations, updated dialogue) for how much you’ll be doing. As for the suggestion to potentially play as Shion in the mini game, I don’t think it’s effective or worth the time. Many players don’t like FMC because you lose a lot of appeal by feeling like you have to purposefully force NTR as the player controlling her actions. At that point, you’re better off with the usual CCTV animations with an added diary/memory energy scene recollection showing what fully happened to Shion and the customers. Regardless, looking forward to testing whether or not your ideas are effective through actually playing through it when an update comes out!

7RKguy

Map is designed the way it is for your imagination, everything is intentional(to the best of what my mind can conjure) for the future! But it'll be awhile seeing how we're still at phase 1, but look forward to it 😁