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BONUS: The Time Muammar Gaddafi Recruited a Chicago Street Gang (Patreon)

Published:
2023-07-01 03:52:55
Edited:
2023-12-11 09:52:24
Imported:
2026-06

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Once upon a time the dictator of Libya, Muammar Gaddafi, attempted to recruit a Chicago street gang from Chicago to conduct terror attacks in America. This is the very dumb story. 

Sources: 

https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,966132,00.html

https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/November-1988/The-Making-of-Jeff-Fort/

https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/blackstone-rangers-black-p-stone-nation-el-rukns-c-1957-c-2000/

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/07/24/El-Rukn-charged-with-transport-of-rocket/3358554097600/

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/05/chicagos-blackstone-rangers-i/305741/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/26/hana-gaddafi-daughter-mystery

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article13530021/Gaddafis-Kinder-Totgesagte-leben-laenger.html

Josh Sinai. Libya's Pursuit of Weapons of Mass Destruction. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/npr/sinai43.pdf

Comments

Wuwu

the moes!

OgodaiHan

Chivas regal gained recognition in south Korea as it was known to be a personal favorite of the dictator Park Jung Hee.

Shane Roberts

The Pakistani Physicist's name, 'Abdu'l-Qadir, means "servant of the almight." Joe read it as Abu'l-Qadir, which means "father of the almighty."

I_like_planes_and_cities

Well, I guess I’m not going to lay down. Time to stay awake and listen to some Donk-Cast.

MrRandomGuy3

I’d love to mention that mark wahlberg said himself that about the 911 flight that “If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, 'OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.’”

Aly Said

Flyn has to be talking to a Egyptian or Egyptian Expat, (speaking as one) the Muslim brotherhood conspiracy theories are sooo common to the point most claim they control Turkey and somehow the German state

Pol R

Really enjoyed this episode! Always good to hear some shit-talking. Minor push-back on the good Guinness pub/bad Guinness pub thing though - the good Guinness pubs tend to be (in my experience) oul fellas' pubs, with the serving staff able to work at a slower pace, and serving a lot of Guinness, so they're not trying to go between an order for two pints and ten fat frogs at the same time. They tend to be pubs where you'd meet up for a few pints and a chat rather than going out on the batter or going on the pull. And by all means complain if the pint tastes bad - there may be something legitimately wrong with it. But wherever you are, if you're bitching at the bar staff over a pint not being picture perfect, do the whole world a favour and fuck off.

Sparky

If I recall, the code was partially cracked by sending police to ask their gang HQ specific questions. Fort would then get reports in code on what the police were asking about on the jailhouse phone.

Madwoman Madrigal

In the heat of a summer niiiiight...in the land of the dollar bill

S.O. Khan

Hearing about Ghaddafi naming a series of mosques after him reminds me about how Lahore, Pakistan still has a major stadium named after him, which they have not bothered to change even a decade after he was deposed. Going back to the city and hearing that name as a normal landmark is still jarring for me.

Bruise

As a distiller in the craft spirits industry, I feel you about whiskey dudes. People can be so condescending about it for no reason. I guess just being a douche is a touching personality trait for them.

J

I generally don't like alcohol unless it's drowned in sugar or is a beer that tastes like bread, but Kavalan might be a good option if you don't like the smokiness of Scotch

Nick Rachielles

Nate describing Mike Flynns worldview just made it sound like the latest Jack Ryan season

Sean Hopkins

Native south side Chicagoan here. Looking forward to listening to this one

ruin

Man I lost so many shoes in mosh pits over the years. Thought it was just me.

AthenAltena

I kept thinking of The Wire while listening to this and picturing Fort as Stringer Bell.

Chris Morse

The important question is who was playing at the show that Tom was avoiding the pit for? Inquiring minds want to know! Who was playing, Tom?

RuPaul Craig

Great episode, always wanted to know more about this. And I know it’s not important at all but as a Virginia local, I just wanted to say Pusha T is from VA ♥️😄

Lain of the Wired

it was a thing in the discord years ago where i did a military catgirl fic and called it hoolinyans of kandahar which is where the catgirl thing on the discord comes from

Cathleen Horan

Gentlemen, I am a 45 year old chick that still gets in the pit on the regular. You’d be fine

LD-50 Seattle

What is Gaddafi gave Rondo the AT launcher from the infamous bazooka pic

Psychedelic Alien

Gaddafi was definitely on speed, I've met people who saw him get speed injections, on stage, in the 80s.

ChipotleAway

The Nate-Tom-Joe host trifecta is like the Voltron of podcast hosting.

Tuesdays

a role model in the scene 🙏🙏🙏

Cat Meier

Great episode, but also a really weird worlds-colliding moment for me. I was among the founders of the OTW, the non-profit behind the Archive of Our Own, and let me tell you, if you'd told me in 2008 that one day I'd be listening to some guys on a military history podcast search for Muammar Gaddafi fic on our Archive, I would very much have not believed you.

Page Chase

Establishing the Nate Bethea extended universe AO3 tag with an AU coffeeshop fic where all the guys have to wear maid costumes.

FishTank

They say the Lathe grew three times in size that day...

Nick Finan

As a craft beer nerd, we are in fact, mostly harmless and most people who really enjoy craft beer also homebrew so it’s fun to sort of try and figure out what kind of hops/grain was used in the beer and how.

Flare Dancer

Also worth shouting out the time in 1987 when Gaddafi sponsored a nearly bankrupt German hockey team, ECD Iserlohn, and they played and won a single game wearing Green Book jerseys, then the league threatened to ban them if they didn't give up the sponsorship deal.

Akshay Anand

It should have been Francis and Shocks on this episode for tradition's sake 🤣

SecondSafestSlav

Michael Flynn' whole geopolitical ideas about Iran, Mexican narcos, and Islamic extremists working together is literally the plot of the new Call of Duty games. Minus the Russian stuff of course because Qanon guys love Russia.

SecondSafestSlav

It's literally the plot of a dumb videogame. It's uncanny how similar it is to Modern Warfare 2.

heffa

Ok, that goes into my Top 5 LLBD Episodes list 💜 And I gotta say, I'm a seriously unfit 43 yo, but my last 2 live gigs I spent the whole set in the pit. Took me multiple days to recover, but that's been the case since 30 😁

Kate B

Oh Boons Farm.... Those were the days... But I always liked MD20/20 better.

0ctomaton

Ok, so you talked about alchy-snobs; how do you feel about cigarette snobs? Are you particular about a brand? For my part, when I was a smoker, if I only had $5 in my pocket, I'd settle for whatever was cheapest (I never went menthol, though, gross). I also found it waaaaay cheaper to roll my own, but because I'm lazy af, I still often overpaid for pre-rolled. It seems y'all are mostly vaping these days, and I really don't want to hear about that; vape nerds are in the top 5 worst nerds.

Lee Duce

I love this episode so much and listen every month or so. Please do a LLBD t-shirt that says "Don't give Gaddafi the aux cord" 😆

Ryan

I totally and completely disagree agree with the dude above, I love hearing about your vaping stuff!! well I do agree MOST vape nerds do suck, there is a sect of vape nerd that are actually cool, they are the Mixers(people who DIY the vape juice) we know stuff about why flavors taste a certain way, we hook our vape friends up with free/actually affordable vape juice, were always vaping on something that taste interesting or smells interesting and usually know what going on with vaping regulations because we have to know they just in case we have to stock up on nicotine because of new restrictions. If you vape and you don’t have a mixing friend, you got to find one they make your vape experience so much better. 🤣😂

Illuin DB

still waiting on the Gaddafi / Stalin / Trotsky fic read

Hart

Okay I have had to fight the 'writing LLBD fanfiction' demons, but that's only because the idea of 'LLBD covers the Dublinn incident from Arknights' won't leave my head. I stopped the second I realized this would logically make Tom a catboy and I had a moment of 'what the fuck am I even doing here'.