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BONUS: Master and Commander (Patreon)

Published:
2023-09-23 09:50:14
Edited:
2023-12-11 09:45:22
Imported:
2026-06

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Tom and Joe watch Master and Commander, otherwise known as why life in the navy sucks ass.

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kliachichka

WOO MORE WET DUDE SUFFERING LETS GOOL

Peter Lawler

Will forever be highly disappointed that Tugger failed to make an appearance in this piece of, what could easily have been, cinematic history.

Page Chase

Another presidential cage match I'd like to see is Andrew Jackson vs Teddy Roosevelt, just to see them trash talk each other before they just go full ham beating each other.

Patrick Kearney

I read all 20 books as my quarantine read during COVID. The series ends after the Napoleonic wars end with Aubrey getting a promotion to flag Admiral and Aubrey, Maturin, and the Surprise sailing off so Jack can take over his new command and start a new adventure. Jack spends most of the series stressing about whether or not he's going to get a flag and pretty much all of them end with them sailing off for a new adventure. I felt like it wrapped up the series pretty well.

Lain of the Wired

being tired of Big Cricket is just the plot of starship troopers

Mags

One of my favorite quotes from Moby Dick: "Better to sleep with a sober cannibal than a drunk Christian."

Wazburd

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

Andrew RVA

In the book, the bad guy is an American frigate instead of French.

Chris Morse

Ooo. I was initially going to say TR vs Lincoln, but that's a good match up.

Matt

Nixon would have been terrible in a fight, I’m sure he would have eye gouged and torn ears off or whatever.

Page Chase

I'd also like to see Lincoln vs TR. Or just do 3-way bout. 3 presidents enter. 1 president leaves.

Sparky

Re: practical effects! They built a massive gimbal for a scale ship in a flood tank to simulate getting bounced around by crashing waves!

Marc Bosse

The basis for Aubrey is Admiral Lord Thomas Cochrane. One of his Midshipmen was Marryat who wrote a semi-autobiographical book which was one of the defining nautical novels of the period and was of interest both to Forrester (Hornblower) and O’Brian. As for the ‘end’ of the series, I would say The Commodore and 21. The former because that is when the series leaves mythic time and returns to the world. It offers as good an end to the series as can be found if it was intended. 21 because it was the last. (Mythic time because the books go on with little reference to external events. Book 4 = 1810, Book 19 = 1815)

Ross Palethorpe

100% with Tom here, a series on The Terror would fucking rule.

Shaquille Virk

The Hollom storyline in the Book is way darker - he knocks up the Gunners wife, one of only two women on the ship, and Maturin's assistant gives her a rudimentary abortion that she barely survives. Then the gunner waits until they are alone on one of the islands, and kills them both.

Shaquille Virk

Maturin doesn't snitch on the assistant to Jack because he is anti snitching, and protects him from the Gunner who wants to kill him too. But he detests his assistant after that and gives him shit work and wittily insults him for the rest of the trip.

Shaquille Virk

He's still a dweeb like the movie, it seems like a pity based relationship

Mark Hardgrove

First time I saw this movie was after coming home from surgery and watching it high on pain killers. It's a will not skip if it's on movie for me. It fucking rules. As far as The Terror goes, read the book before watching the TV show.

Mark Hardgrove

Also, Joe, Tank is the best tank-centric movie ever made.

UltraCoil

Hearing Joe mention Gaunt's Ghosts again makes me want a book club episode on the first three novels. I've always enjoyed them but a take from the perspective of a war historian would be fun!

diy.and.die

there's a slight chance you might get sick from eating weevils but generally they're safe to eat, just unpleasant. I'll never forget the time i sat down to eat a bowl of raisin bran in a dimly lit room and looking down after eating most of it and thinking to myself, "i didn't know they put flax seed in raisin bran" and then seeing the "flax seeds" start moving.

Bossbear

Hell yeah stalingurt

Tom

Our last president to see actual combat was old George H.W. Bush, who was a torpedo bomber pilot in WWII.

Shamus Hewitt

"But there ain't no whales so we tell tales and sing a whaling tune!"

Thad

Kinda disappointed nobody mentioned Andrew Jackson. Didn't he straight up kill a motherfucker in his early days?

ruin

Any interest in doing an episode on Aliens (1986)? Lieutenant Gorman is a donkey, it's actually a decent movie, almost everybody dies. Taping a flamethrower to your rifle would probably not go great but we'll give it a pass.

Adam P.

I couldn't think of the rest of the tune. Nicely done

Karl Childers

with Joe being a tanker i kinda wonder if the hilariously stupid design of the armored personnel carrier in Aliens would just make him too mad to speak

Thoros of Myr

For more Sharpe, but with the French, I would recommend "The Duelists" about two cavalry officers who fucking hate each other and duel several times. Also has some of the best, most realistic sword fights in film.

Jacob Vardy

On those lines the Alatriste novels are also great. More than a century earlier but told from the Spanish perspective rather than the British or French.

Akshay Anand

That C# joke was pretty damn good

Noblese Oblahaj

To think that if he'd been eaten by the Japanese, JFK might still be alive today

Lilith Dyke

VERMONT MENTION 😤😤 802 ES NUMERO UNO 🍁🍁

Karl Childers

i have to insist that all of the incorrect whale science in moby dick was 100% intentional, i think people don't realize that like 1/4 of moby dick is a comedy. the narrator even mentions that according to Linnaeus whales are not fish, and he's like "but Linnaeus wasn't a whaler so he's wrong fuck him whales are fish"

ruin

We can only hope. I guess that's what I'm saying, it's a good mix of an entertaining movie and hilariously stupid military stuff.

Z Alexandra

My dad was in the navy and I was a toddler when this movie came out, so one of my earliest memories is sitting between him and my mom and watching this movie on dvd. It was the first instance I had of sort of understanding the experience my dad had living on aircraft carriers for months at a time. Still one of my favorites :)

Jonathan Bastow

The Soviet doctor took out his appendix, not his pancreas. Still impressive though.

James Van Dyke

yeah.... you can't live without a pancreas

Noblese Oblahaj

You can tell Joe's really matured as a podcaster because he didn't giggle nearly so much as he might have when he said 'seamen'

Andrew Porter

As a side note, George H.W. Bush was a TBF Avenger Pilot during WW2, got shot down while on a bombing run, JFK was the skipper of a couple of PT boats (one of which was cut in half by a Japanese destroyer). While doing some googling about other presidents who served in the military, I found out that Richard Nixon was assigned to the Marine Air Group responsible for supplying Vella Lavella (VMF-214) and Bouganville, too bad a rip on Nixon as a REMF didnt make it into Black Sheep Squadron (or maybe it did).

Eric A Gentzler

It does have similar vibes to, say, Das boot. But that's what life is like on most smaller warships. Modern ships are a lot bigger, but like anything cruiser or bigger has a lot of space for extra amenities. I'd imagine being on a modern frigate wouldn't be much different than a submarine except you get fresh air and sunlight.

Eric A Gentzler

If I remember right, the movie kinda mashes together 2 of the books. I think "Master and Commander" and "HMS Surprise."

Ben

How many subscribers for one of you to fight in a Street Beefs match?

Rob

Refillable vapes are easy, and super cheap once you have the mod and tank, just buy juice and the coils every so often. Can't get on with the disposables.

Patrick Kearney

Movie Maturin is great. But book Maturin is fantastic.

Scott A Croom

Technically, you can, but just not for very long at all.

Jonathan Grafton

This is a continuation of the Gaelic in a Bosnian accent bit, and I love it.

Cão Errante

Mealworms, the larval stage of the darkling beetle, is a great source of nutrition, and easy to raise yourself. By weight, they have more protein than steak and more fiber than broccoli. A small farm can be kept in a very small space (about a cubic foot), and eats basic grain like oatmeal and the occasional sweet potato. One important element of raaing mealworms: the beetles don't fly, so you very rarely get runaways

0ctomaton

Presidential cage fight: My first thought was Teddy v Jackson, but then I realized Jackson would've done an Indy and pulled out a gun and just blast Teddy. So my actual vote would be Taft v Garfield. Tell me that wouldn't be worth the PPV $.

Charlie

Russell Character

Stu Strange

I worked with the guy who owned the HMS Suprise, met a lot of odd people working at colonial Williamsburg. I think he sold it to the San Diego maritime museum after the movie

Markus D

I remember being disappointed that Master and Commander was not as gay as the title made it sound. That reminds me; you don't cover pirates often, but I'm wondering if any of you have watched Black Sails, which is ostensibly a prequel to Treasure Island, but definitely aimed at adults. I enjoyed it, but I've always had a thing for pirates.

Paloma

Tom, are you still gonna make Joe watch The Terror? I’d love to hear his reactions—if anything, that view of the Age of Sail Royal Navy is even grimier

Matthew Nugent

One for the soundboard is Tom doing Baptist call and response “tell it joe”.

Julien Carson

Fun fact about the HMS Surprise in the movie: the ship is technically a replica of the actual HMS Surprise but they used a real royal navy vessel that did serve at the same time called the HMS Rose, they modified her, stripped the aft cabin and built a digital helm center so they could steer the ship from there and still use the deck for filming. All the climbing in the rigging was actually done by Crowe and D’Arcy and for some reason they just let them???? Like the liability?? Wild. Also!! Bettany and Crowe learned the violin and cello for the movie!! (Sincerely, a person who grew up on tall ships and has been obsessed with this movie since they were 8 years old)