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Bullseye. That's it!

Well? What does everyone think? Did TruTV do right by anyone? Or did the boys deserve Insecure money? Sound off below.

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Urqu-DC

Mhmm this is what I subscribe for, J&A4Eva

Griffin

Release the BOGDAN cut

Zane Carnie

Love the random 'forgot to delete' at the end

Rodney's Rice

Sorry, TruTV wanted how many commercial breaks?

Lewis Taylor

Being sincere, I thought this would be super cringy and and difficult to watch after your reluctance to really discuss it for the past 10 years. The show is toned down compared to the series but it's the pilot episode of a TV show, there's a lot to establish and naturally it'll be a bit middle-of-the-road but I thought you actually did a great job. The characters were well established and just seeing Ben appear on the screen made me smile. Rick Fox is just the definition of charisma and I loved his character too. Overall I'd say it's pretty taupe, and definitely not something to be ashamed of because it didn't get picked up. Let's be honest, J&A humour is a bit out there and it's always going to be a hard sell for mainstream appeal.

Tara

Genuinely didn’t see the robber in the wall bit coming lol

Rachel Roy

Tru TV was busy selling their soul to the Carbonaro effect lol. This was actually great

Guy Sapire

Not sure if post credit scene or editing mistake

Zane Carnie

My feeling is an accidental editing mistake

Den

Jake and Amir watching Amir watch a nostalgic compilation of Jake and Amir to the sound of "Stay With Me" by Sam Smith. Got a little heavy for a sec.

Ethan Mackell

Amir's shirt is "no" in this episode

Carter

No Sam

Jordan (Zoom User)

Amir, heads up, there’s some editing scrap at the end of this vid!

Jenneryy

So mad they didn’t make this show! It would have been so fun

Shiren

Methinks the pilot was chine, green or otherwise

Shiren

The credits say it was edited by Geoff, so I'm afraid we can assume it was an editing mistake

Lewis Taylor

Yeah they had like 30 seconds left to wrap it up and they actually slammed it home, pretty forcefully actually

Frans

This was way better than I expected

Alex is Learning

“Edited by Geoffrey James”, that’s funny that’s funny that’s funny

Sampson

TruTV blew it! There was some pretty funny jokes in there and as far as Pilots go it did a good job. Plus who wouldn’t have loved seeing Rick Fox on their tv every week. What a unique opportunity!

pigpen

Rick Fox is a comedic genius

Evan

It's just a moment of silence for their failed pilot

Nils Trost

Where did it go? It says This video has been removed by the creator... Is it just me?

David

Gone for me too

Jordan (Zoom User)

LMAO I didn’t catch that. Is Geoff turdy eligible?

Josh B

8:08 The "no-five" moment, man ya'll are great writers 😂

Alex is Learning

Ben shrieking “the PRESTIIIIGE” from within the wall really got me

Aaron Singer

Right show, wrong network. This show would do numbers on Hulu or HBO today tbh

tommy

Really interesting pilot overall. I think (as often seems to happen) the demands of trying to turn this into a more conventional, networky sitcom may have distracted a bit from what made the web series so compelling and fun. Just a few notes that come to mind: 1) Too many characters are introduced in the pilot. What the audience really needs to understand in this episode is the Jake/Amir dynamic, with maybe a taste of their work setting (one B- or C-plot involving two, at most three of the new side characters). Good comedy pilots establish a dynamic between a few characters that you can care about, very distantly tease a few others, and don't even introduce plenty others that you'll meet later in the season. If the budget allowed, I also think a few more extras to serve as "background" company workers would be welcome here; the scenes feel a little empty, especially given the size and brightness of the set. That way, the viewer would get the impression that there's a large group of coworkers, and as the season goes on, you can pluck a few out of that group to bring into Jake and Amir's sphere as their circle, rather than just making the whole company their circle. 2) The cold open was too heightened—even just putting new dressing on an old, lower concept 2-minute Jake and Amir short would have given the audience a more direct and clear understanding of their dynamic without reducing it to "Jake smart exasperated, Amir dumb silly," which is only part of what goes on in that relationship. 3) The main plot beats here feel, frankly, very forced. The company might go under—who cares? Should Jake and Amir care? Why would they care? This is a very generic plot driver, and it feels entirely extrinsic to the dynamics between the characters. I think something that forces Jake and Amir to work together more directly (despite Jake's protestations) might function a bit better than a broader plot motive which doesn't get too into their dynamic. A Mickey prank call escalates and Amir has to make it up somehow, for instance, or, if that's too inside baseball for a new viewer, go for something more broad, like a "One Almond" type plotline where Amir stumbles into some lucky situation and Jake has to try and stop him from blowing it, or, if you want something that ties in other characters in the office, go for a plotline like "Vandalism," where Amir does something absurd at the office and coerces Jake to helping him cover for it. All of these points, I think, stem from a bit of an identity crisis: is this a broad office comedy, or is it a story about a comedic duo with a clear, original dynamic (a la The Odd Couple or Flight of the Conchords) which simply happens to take place in an office? I think the script gunned too much for option A, when Jake and Amir was always at its best when it was option B. Obviously, it's possible that the network would have objected to this, since establishing Jake and Amir's dynamic as central might have struck them as too narrow or kitschy. But, as I see it, shows that aim for a specific feel and stick with it often end up doing better than shows that make themselves too generic and lose sight of their voice. All in all? Taupe, but with amber potential.

claire

distracted by how nice jake's sweater is

Noemi

This kind of reminds me of Broad City. I liked this a lot, actually.

Beav

You might not be getting sued by TruTV, but Sam Smith is pissed at yall. Cease and Desist. Nay. Cease the Sam Smith. …but for real, TruTV fucked up

Alex Kennedy

Crazy that they didn’t green-light this

Alex Kennedy

Playing the piano to get laid with Bo Burnham is a classic

ryan liberato

I was going into this expecting cringe, but its legitimately a great pilot that would have had appeal to folks who didn't even know Jake and Amir as an established thing. Shame it never got picked up for sure.

eggler

What is this a Marvel movie

Greg Phipps

There’s some good elements here, like Rick Fox as the supervisor and of course Sick Dan but there’s just way too much thrown at you almost immediately, and it becomes apparent how watered down the webshow’s core was when Jake and Amir having an argument at their desks is almost an afterthought tag at the end (in the wrong orientation, ya Gumps). I think the pilot should’ve been focused a lot more on just the titular duo to establish the dynamic more for new audiences, with the supporting ensemble filtering in as the show progressed. Amir and Jake having separate love interests also kinda goes against why stuff like the Lerona or Hallie storylines worked for the web series. And the lack of any CollegeHumor/Hardly Working cast members makes this feel so alien in comparison, starting off in an already insane world where anything goes feels like there’s no room to expand or flanderize the absurdity. I’m sure most of my complaints are changes that were made to satisfy the network but it’s overall a prime example of how too much artistic interference can lead to a loss of original intent and vision. Still a shame that this never went anywhere else, but it does help me appreciate how good the web show is, even more than before. Glad the web show is back in y’all’s hands these days, hoping we get some new episodes before I’m old and gay. Old and GREY I SAID

Thomas Neumaier

Oh what i would give to see the josh ruben outtakes

Dcc

Taupe

Matthew Cramer

Agree with this take and disagree with a lot of the thread that are critiquing the pilot based on it not being "true enough" to the youtube J&A format. Thought this was a pilot for a show with a lot of room to grow, had depth in the cast, and clever music / plotting throughout. Shame it didn't get picked up at the time but think that is just the roulette nature of TV especially in that era. The Prestige!

Lucas

Amir looking at photos on an ipod touch is something.

jsteeze

I liked it!!! And I feel like it would’ve found its footing. Rick Fox catching the stapler made me laugh

Mbet Bet

Damn I think this would’ve been one of my favorite comedy shows of all time

Chris H

So sad that shows need to be written around the commercial breaks. Like stfu and let people be creative, stuff your greedy ass commercials in some random cut between scenes.

Neekafour

Listening back to an IIWY ep from around this time and what role was written for Rose McIver?

Mateo Gomez

Jake where is that sweater from?

A

Ed Sheeran thing wasn't out of nowhere, Amir bought those tickets for Jake in Act I but Jake didn't want them. So really those are Jake's tickets and he could have offered them to Halley himself if he was smart, but he isn't.

John Coogan

I would pay a bad amount of money for that Josh Ruben deleted scene

Nicholas Mata

I woulda definetely watched the pilot at the time if it got properly released. And if it went to series I woulda watched a few eps and just dvr the season, saying “I’ll watch it when I get to it.” And then when it gets cancelled I’ll be all “aw, why?”