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If I Were You: Swinging (Patreon)

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2026-04-08 13:00:17
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2026-04

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Back to dispense some wisdom about double dates, double names, and compliment sandwiches.

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Davinia

Isn't it "Three Blind Mice" not "Hot Cross Buns"?

Michael Gumption

My two cents: Jake and Amir find insecurities funny, and all of their comedic work (Jake and Amir but also lonely and horny) is just caricatures of various ways that people can often be insecure. Feeling like everyone is in on a joke you’re not in on, feeling like you’re taking a fashion risk that isn’t working, trying desperately to be someone’s friend, trying to act tough, trying to show that you’re cool, trying to flirt. They look at the ways people do this and where people shows signs of insecurity when doing this, and then inflate the insecurity 1000x. That’s why there is always one crazy one: there’s always someone on the outside.

StefanParc

Amir as desire for social integration, and Jake as his platonic ideal: I've always found Amir's character fascinating, specifically his evolution throughout the series. If I were to chart his character arc, I would split it into two distinct eras: First Era - early in the series Amir is characterised more as a naïve, dumb, but sometimes well meaning guy. His greatest desire is to be liked, accepted and well integrated into normal society. However, much to his continued disappointment, he fails time and time again to get people to like him or to think he's cool or worthy of love. He is too dumb and insecure to manifest the life he wishes for. He is either unable or unwilling to learn and change enough to facilitate this. Here is where Jake comes in. At first glance, Jake seems to be a nice enough but totally boring and average guy - so why does Amir become so obsessed with this seemingly dull and uncreative man? That's because Jake's character is also fascinating, but it's buried a bit beneath the surface, emphasis on 'a bit'. Jake seemingly has everything Amir wishes he could have - friends, a somewhat active social life, fine clothes, and above all, social acceptance. Amir sees in him, as we also get to see more and more as the series progresses, many of the same insecurities he has, but Jake is somehow able to hide and mask them better than Amir, and thus, gain access to more of things that he wants in life. Amir knows that he'll never actually be able to get rid of his insecurities and neuroses, that's a lost cause, but he sees in Jake the hope of at least pretending well enough to get some social status. And so, he becomes totally obsessed with him and tries to emulate him in many ways. From Jake's side, you would wonder, watching their interactions, that he would stop spending any time with Amir or entertaining his weird and off-putting hijinks. But there is also something that Jake is getting out of this. Jake, as I've said, is secretly (or not so secretly) basically just as insecure as Amir is, and so he is also constantly worried about being seen as lame or weird or otherwise socially outcast. And so he keeps Amir around almost as proof, or a reminder that he isn't as bad as him, that he's doing ok in comparison. Even if being around Amir also affects him negatively socially (and physically) many times, he can always point at him and say 'look, he's the weird one, not me'. Thus, they form an unhealthy, almost co-dependent relationship with each other. At some point midway through the series, I'm not sure exactly when, after years of futile efforts to reach his goals, I think that something truly breaks in Amir, when he finally realises that what he's hoped for his whole life is never going to happen, and thus begins his Second Era - he goes from a dumb and obsessive but usually harmless guy, to a cackling malevolent lunatic. He becomes a true villain, almost a joker-type character. If society is never going to accept him, then he will at least make them all suffer like he has suffered. His longing for acceptance and hope for a better version of himself turn sour inside him, and he embraces being a curse on society, for they will never love him, and so he will smite them all with his weird fingers and bad hands. P.S. My favorite episode of Jake and Amir is Table Read 2. Amir calling Emily Moira and then looking at her like she's stupid when she says it back is genuinely hilarious. Also Geoffrey James doesn't deserve love.

Jonathan Hughes

Listening to you riff , I’m confident that a good Jake and Amir would be Jake has written a book which almosy gets published but Amir thinks Jake’s work is so perfect, he talks Jake out of making the modest changes suggested by his editor and his deal goes away.

Ashley

What percentage of my final grade is this essay? Asking for me.

Sana

What the hell

Sana

thanks guys <3

Sana

also my name is pronounced sun-nah (like the sun) for next time. if u care at all.

Jeff Zumstein

Post this on the podcast feed for my ears’ delight

Noam Fleischmann

Good work! I'd add that I think part of what keeps Jake attached to Amir is that he subconsciously envies Amir's inhibition. Jake is insecure of himself but craves attention and is envious of the attention Amir gets from being the malevolent lunatic. I think this conflict in him is what can greatly swing his moods with Amir; sometimes he's looking at him in pure disgust, but sometimes he craves his validation just as much as he craves Pat's or Sarah's.

StefanParc

a match made in hell

Matthew

The C in Craig and the G in Greg are the same exact sound except you move your vocal cords when you make the G sound, put your hand on your throat when you say them and you can feel the difference

IcyT

The pinch???

Taylor Becker

My name is Taylor and I get called Tyler at work all of the time, even on emails when they are responding to me after reading my name. They think it is the masculine pronunciation. Any noodles I don’t care and Craig Greg probably doesn’t either.

Taylor Becker

I hasn’t had a compliment sandwich in quite some time factually

Sᴜɢᴀʀ Fʀᴇᴇ Tᴏɴʏ ᴀᴋᴀ Rᴀᴊɴᴇᴇsʜ's Rᴏʏᴄᴇ

Jokes aside, very nice analysis. My observation looking at all this is that, since the "break" in Amir's character, I feel like Jake has slipped more and more into a sort of limbo as a part of this duo and his reasons to stay with Amir make less and less sense. For as envious as Jake might be of Amir's freedom, he's also got some boundaries that Amir crosses regularly. I think the new era has exposed the fact that the show has become sort of an abstraction of its initial premise, since there is no grounding to J&A's characters. I think the guys have just gotten so used to stepping in those roles, they kinda forgot about what brought them together in the first place. It makes sense that they're different as people and thus the new incarnations of J&A don't bother with establishing who they are as characters, but it definitely would be nice to have a little bit of worldbuilding. The new era feels like white room syndrome a bit, extremely funny sketches but very remote from any context as to why these characters are interacting. In a way a lot of what made the old CH J&A funny is the fact that all of this was happening in an actual office filled with characters just as wacky as them or with more audience surrogates who can point out how weird Jake and Amir both are. Or whatever, I just started this show 2 weeks ago I'm obsessed, I'm halfway through the first episode don't spoil anything

Sᴜɢᴀʀ Fʀᴇᴇ Tᴏɴʏ ᴀᴋᴀ Rᴀᴊɴᴇᴇsʜ's Rᴏʏᴄᴇ

It's the observer and the observed. If you really dig at the core of their characters, all of it is different games of perception and judgement, and you can really see it in their earlier sketches which set the foundations for what their humor would become. It used to all be about what was commonly seen as acceptable of not for someone to be in society, and then it devolved into Amir pushing those boundaries more and more.

Rainer Kocsis

the Rodney's Rice hot cross buns compilation is like 50% three blind mice parodies. It's an AURAL illusion of sorts

Sabrina

can you guys have an option to email questions? i dont want people to know i need the advice of two podcasters in their mid to late fifties.

Sabrina

For the essayist, the writer, the university student -- I imagine it as the average Jake and Amir ep is Amir from Jake's point of view. That's why he goes from just being the weird guy at work to a looney tunes character with godlike powers. The insecure jake episodes are from Amir's point of view. So it's how they both see these hyperbolic versions of each other.

Becket

Would you like your letter of resignation in a compliment cone or a compliment bowl, sir

Noemi

I’m taking the advice and getting knocked up ASAP. Thanks guys.

Lee

Love the visual comedy. RSS feed listeners deserve so much less than this

Den

That eyelid-flipping weed connection type thing from Amir is why I'm here. Quality.

Arthur’s fist

the hot cross buns remix is well worth my 4.99 a month

Alex

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but there is an element of Tim Robinson in your humor (or maybe the other way around). Aside from the goof and the straight man dynamic, some of the best J&A explore awkward but very real and relatable social situations. I feel it's a lot more prominent in insecure Jake episodes, but it exists throughout. Having a joke not land at lunch with your friends, being insecure about a new fashion choice, feeling called out, calling someone out, worrying about what your friend thinks of you. Poking fun at the absurdity of some of these relatable moments, I think, endears the viewer to the duo.

Rowan

this shit cray

Josh B

Y’all are a delight 🤣 more If I Were You please

Greg Turismo

My name is also Greg. And I can always tell. But it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

Greg Turismo

You’re goddamn right, Trevor.