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On the podcast this week, Thom wants to know how we know what we know about Amuro Ray's war-time nickname. He emerges from the sticky morass of continuity with a surprising answer and a few thoughts about benefits and downsides in the Gundam franchise's approach to developing its own imaginary history.

Show Notes

Correction: In the episode Thom said that Amuro's other nickname, White Shooting Star of the Federation, debuted in Super Robot Wars (possibly as early as 2nd Super Robot Wars, released December 12, 1991). However it seems that name actually made its first appearance in the quasi-official source book Entertainment Bible #39 (released earlier in 1991), which includes a ranked list of OYW ace pilots. A translation of this section can be found here; other parts of EB39 have been translated here. Thank you to patron HitTheTargets for directing our attention to the book.

  • Essential research assistance for this episode was kindly provided by Mark Simmons (http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/) who sent us the text from the parts of the 0083 novels in which the nickname 白い悪魔 / White Devil is given to Gato.
  • Other books consulted:

    Yamaguchi Hiroshi, 機動戦士ガンダム0083 / Mobile suit Gundam 0083 (Kadokawa 1992), pp. 123 and 152.

    Marc Steinberg, Anime's Media Mix: Franchising Toys and Characters in Japan (Minnesota UP 2012).

  • You can find Japanese-language discussions about the origin of the 白い悪魔 / White Devil nickname in various places, including: Yahoo Japan, mixi, Nico Nico Pedia, and www5f.biglobe.ne.jp (archived) (links are to specific discussions).
  • Some lists of other things that get called "White Devil" in Japan, on pixiv and Japanese Wikipedia.  
  • Page about The White Devil of the Transportation Bureau (a loud train).
  • Some other colors of devil: Pink, Green, Blue, and Black.
  • The earliest known use of the "White Devil" nickname in Gundam: this SD Qubeley CARDASS card from 1988:

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Angel Jaimes

In 2.17 Fog Over Hickory, Tom, in regards to Amuro's performance, describes him as "the White Devil come again", so if Nina is wondering where she heard that nickname, that's the earliest I remember hearing it on the podcast

GundamPodcast

I can't believe *I* was the one who let it slip. I'll never be able to forgive myself. Incredible memory on your part, though! - Thom

Mark Simmons

Charmingly random! It's a shame the "White Meteor/Shooting Star" moniker never caught on. (It's mentioned in Entertainment Bible 39, so it goes back at least as far as 1991.) Not only does it set up a possible connection to later series that might use the "meteor" catchphrase, but it also suggests that it was the solo re-entry that first turned the Gundam into a legend. "The white mobile suit that fell to Earth and kept on kicking butt..."

Brian Shea

Great research piece! Seems perfectly fitting that Gato is the one who called Amuro the White Devil as he's known as such an over the top Zeon loyalist/fanboy. I'm one of those individuals introduced to Gundam via its rather wonky US release order. Saw Gundam Wing first, then the original show via its Cartoon Network airing, and in the immediate aftermath Char's Counterattack, Gundam 0080, Gundam 0083 and 08th MS Team. Wouldn't see Zeta Gundam until its official US release around 2004/2005 and ZZ a couple of years after that via fansubs. As such pretty much all the Zeta references in 0083 went over my head. When Haman has her cameo my only response was "Who?". Ironic considering she would become my favorite character from the entire Gundam franchise after seeing Zeta and ZZ. Also because now I'm one who strongly recommends that people watch Zeta before 0083, even though that's not how I experienced it. I also remember in Char's Counterattack when Char rather awkwardly calls them the "Teetans" in the English dub and wondering if that's how they were going to call them when Zeta came out (thankfully not).

Bret M Anderson

It also matches with Char being the Red Comet. Char's the one who burns through the sky. Amuro can come back down to Earth.