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Howdy,

I'm turning to you guys on this as I'm not entirely sure how to go about doing it and would naturally want your input on solutions. Recently someone has ripped a work from this Patreon and posted it on their Twitter as if it were theirs. I'm interested in any file protection based solutions that will give you guys password access to my work that I upload here.

It would essentially be just a preview here with a link to a site requiring a password.

If any of you guys have any idea, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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cogrunner

I think mega.io does password base file protection you could try that, the related work was the evelyn one yes?

Omen

I don't think that would do much, they still are subscribed to the patreon so even if you password protect it, they will just use the password you send and still post the content on twitter or other websites This password will just be another step for patreon users to check your content and won't do much to stop people from spreading it The only real way to protect your content is just to report the posts you find of your content... But... I don't think it's worth it, all that hastle to report or to use passwords, after all, as i said, the one that is sharing your content is most likely subscribed to your patreon (paying for your content) And yeah another guy mentioned this but i will add it to my post, add some hidden watermarks all over your art, but that sadly won't do much since if they find it, they can just use ai to remove them, but that's a *if* they find the watermrks

Tempestrain

Sign your artwork and have a 2nd signature hidden with in it

Hinto

Yes. I was hoping to have it be something dynamic that allows patrons access based on their chosen tier but I may have to use a bandaid solution for now

FuShi

Discord with password fole protection on mega or via the zip files maybe

cogrunner

That's probably your best option I think but I don't know, I seen other creators us password base or QR code to unlock their work

Hinto

This is what i had figured would ultimately be the case of futility :/ I mostly didnt want to create an extra step for you guys just to enjoy the work you subbed to see at a convenience. Do you mind elaborating on what hidden watermarks help I've never used them before

M

I’m an artist too, yet to encounter this kinda situation, but yeah better sign or put some sort of watermark on your work, and maybe this’ll be troublesome but I’ll just contact them or just leave a comment down below the tweet (if it’s blowing up, Like “ ayo not cool bro no stealing, here’s the real source-link”.

Zeonidas

Watermark outside but near the body work nice. Or embedded into the clothes.

Omen

like in clothing, if the clothes have a pattern draw your name in that pattern, and stuff like that, subtle ways, put them in places where people don't usually look for watermarks, etc. Another way could be to add your name in the metadata of the picture but most of the time, that data gets stripped when you post it on platforms)

meepsalot

As some have mentioned a watermark and calling out the poster are some ways to do it. Keeping the files in a mega that’s password encoded would be an excellent second step. In the long run what’s important is keeping what you use for income safe so I think everyone would be ok jumping through the extra hoop, and if not well, not to be rude but too bad.

Alexis

Could start incorporating 2 watermarks one hidden in the setting like billboards, signs, or in nature like the Lion King did when they hid the sfx letters in the night sky and one on the characters body like a tattoo or brand/design on clothing

Hinto

In terms of file protection and access, would you guys be cool with having access to a Discord that just has the artwork on there? I feel like this would at least make it difficult for scalpers and bots to automatically pull my work from here. I would need to look into how access points and membership intergration would work for Emperor and Adele Penguins though. I'm mostly interested in what you guys think of this idea. Is it too much of a hassle? Is it not worth the effort? Additionally do you guys believe having an Archive like the current MEGA is worthwhile if work can be stolen from there as well?

jampulse

There’s no perfect solution to people stealing your art and posting it elsewhere. However, definitely consider the suggestions others have shared, such as using password-protected files and/or hidden watermarks. I’m not sure if you'd want to change your membership model from subscription billing to monthly payments in order to send the password for your files. Alternatively, you could send a Google Drive link at the end of the month to keep track of who has accessed the file.

Hinto

The only thing about this is that I find watermarks, even when hidden where's waldo style lol, kind of distracting. I think I would be fine with a transparent signature somewhere (Afrobull for example) for sure but I am mostly concerned about the security of the work not only the copyrighting part ya know?

Hinto

I was thinking maybe have a private discord where different members can get access? I just need to figure out the access part to make it seamless so people can properly get and access what they paid for. What are your thoughts on that?

jampulse

This should work. From the servers I've been in they have hidden channels for each membership tier, so everyone gets what they paid for.

DELTA26

As an artist, much of my exclusive Patreon content has been uploaded to various sites without my permission. The only thing I could do is add my signature and a small watermark with my Patreon and Twitter on all my illustrations. At least, if they upload it without my permission, my social media is visible, so I don’t lose credit for my work, and it helps people who enjoy my art find and support me.

DefnotAlt

That's very unfortunate, looking through that twitter account looks like they're a serial patreon/fanbox thief. I see paywalled works from Unfairr, Ruberule, Hyuk and Radishkek that I recognize. One of the quickest ways I think you can upgrade the protection of your works is putting a password on your mega archives and changing it monthly, an artist named Yusha M does this and at the very least it ensures those that those who want to regularly steal your art have to at least pay monthly to do so.

awooga69ds

Add anti repost watermark and using glaze for protection maybe needed. Sorry to hear this is happening 😔

biggestsonicfan

This is becoming more and more the norm. The other option would be hosting your own site with Patreon login authentication, but that costs money.

Hinto

That's a fantastic rationale thank you. I'll do that going forward. I still want a permanent solution for overall work. Considering Discord, but password MEGA is a great first step!

Hinto

The only tricky thing I'm uncertain of is integration. I'll need to do more research on it