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Fancy Art for Fancy Lads feat. Josie Long (Patreon)

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2020-07-24 00:11:50
Imported:
2026-06

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Sorry for the delayed release on this. During the recording we were convinced that we'd lost the entire Josie segment, so we recorded a second half that's almost the same length. As such, this is a long one, but I think you'll enjoy. It involves the elitism of the art world, Josie Long's commentary on the way in which the entire world is gatekept by the rich, and the second segment features a guy calling his billionaire friend for advice about the state of the world. The advice, as you might expect, is normal as hell.

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Comments

MI

*huffing whiteboard markers like Frank from Blue Velvet* aaAGHH

Fatticus Inch

Nineteen Eighty-Four but regime collapse is triggered by a failure to keep up with Sidekick payments.

Cheucher Herdelle

The UK arts infrastructure is a joke. As an anecdote: at my university the most egregious example was an heiress who bought a 4-bedroom house that wasn't on sale in cash for way way above the price for the area on the proviso that its tenants were moved out _immediately_. Because she had access to people who could help her do a grant application she was then awarded arts funding to put on private viewings of her shitty vagina art about 'the female experience'. This came at the expense of local artists who were putting in applications for community work with vulnerable children etc, but if you don't have someone to tell you how to get an arts grant, the forms are absolutely impenetrable. It's a way to keep failchildren entertained until they inherit the earth. There's always been amazing stuff going on in arts scenes from the grassroots, but holy shit the deck is so stacked.

Ric

new website: getting my icon gilded

Eduardo Cabral

This episode was good though don’t get me wrong. But bones

David Gyllenhaal

Very good episode but I WILL NOT stand for these cruel and slanderous attacks on the East Roman βασιλεύς. In point of actual fact the dynastic principle remained fragile and contested throughout the history of East Rome, and the most egregious examples of a sclerotic and senile elite installing child emperors to serve their own death drive was in the fifth century West. On which see the excellent book, "Child Emperor Rule in the Late Roman West" by Meaghan McEvoy. East Rome survived precisely because it was able to reconstitute its civil and military apparatus on less nepotistic lines and make dramatic sweeping reforms executed from the Constantinopolitan center. ὁ Μαρμαρωμένος ἐπανελεύσεται! Also Alice: الإسلام بدأ غريباً وسيعود غريباً، فطوبى للغرباء بين يدي الساعة.

Elizabeth

I would suggest perhaps unlocking this episode for the non-patrons eventually.... I think it would be good to make free.

Christian Bloch

@40:00 - Milo's point on artists value is bang on. I'm in the VFX industry, and this is the purest form of raw exploitation, wage dumping, forced non-creativity, unpaid overtime, ect, while shoveling boatloads of profits with the other hand. They really do present a counterbalance to an otherwise fun art, and purposely make even the attempt of making money with it suck as much as typing numbers into spreadsheets.

Christian Bloch

@billionaire anonymous: Okay, I find it suspicious he mentions playing RISK when asked what he done lately. Not any other game. RISK, the game about world domination based on pure chance. Not the intellectual duel of Chess, not the sneaky cheaty bluffing of Poker, not even the slightly skill-based pretend-workout of Golf, no. RISK where the dice decide if you control the world. Says much about his view of the situation, I think. And in fact I fear he wasn't even talking about the game, but this was really a winky way of saying he accidentally owns 1/5th of the economy now.

Oliver Cant

When I think of the amount of times that classic music venues like the Fleece in Bristol have been threatened repeatedly by property developers over the last 10 years, meanwhile Royal Albert Hall gets funding no problem. They won't lift a finger to preserve a more common culture in touch with the people, but somehow they will when it means groan worthy Operas & the bloody Proms can continue. It infuriates me as a lover & creator of music. One of my faces places, The Exhange in Bristol (I think, I've not been back since Corona broke out) is bloody closed, meanwhile The Bristol Hippodrome is fine (as far as I know). There are music venues out there that are just as worth keeping if not more than the toff magnets of historical theatres & classic opera houses. We should be able to list a classic music venue as culturally significant, just like grade listed buildings, so they can be preserved & not be able to be knocked down on a whim. The Cavern Club, Koko, Tramshed, and The Thekla are as important to us as any West End theatre, and should be preserved as such. We need to bulletproof music venues from property developers.