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CLONE WARS 1x18! (Patreon)

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2024-04-30 15:29:15
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Tim Etheridge

Great reaction! You were getting the Angels confused with the Kaminoans. This is the first time we've seen the Angels, but Anakin asked Padme if she was one in The Phantom Menace. As for the clones' helmets, I'm pretty certain they only filter out larger molecules like dirt, so didn't help with the toxin. And you were right, the virus had been around previously and eradicated, but at some point a cure was found, which is why they could find it so quickly - I imagine that someone on Naboo was already looking for potential cures the moment they heard what the doctor created in case of an incident

Hallie Raymond

I think Episode III is probably my favorite Star Wars. I do really like Andor, and Rogue One is good but it's just SO sad and tells a story about something we already knew had happened. Can say that for Episode III as well, I guess, but the ideas of Episode III for me are worth it in a way that Rogue One isn't. Two thirds of Anakin's whole world are at risk this episode. He's a hero, yes, but he is never the most popular or charismatic guy wherever he is. He's powerful, but came late to the Jedi and out of touch with their culture, and even if Palpatine wasn't deliberately trying to isolate him, he grew up pretty awkward. As Darth Vader, he was dramatic as all get out and let loose all his grumpiest, most antisocial tendencies, but he was always impatient, impulsive, and hotheaded, and combined with his background, his power, Palpatine working to keep him lonely, and the looming disapproval of the Council, Ani always had rivals and critics aplenty—but very few real friends. It says a lot that his best friend as a young man was his old master—a man sixteen years older than him. The people he cares about are everything to him partially because there are so few of them. I really feel for him this episode, with two legs of the three-legged stool holding him up starting to buckle. Obi-Wan tries. He does try so very, very hard. And he does a really excellent job. I don't think any Jedi could have loved Anakin better or taken better care of him, and yes, I'm including Qui-Gon Jinn due to some stuff in EU materials. But it was really impossible FOR a Jedi to be everything Ani needed. Obi-Wan's silence on Padmé is actually a breach in Jedi protocol—a hypocrisy born of kindness and sympathy, and Obi-Wan doing his friend and former student a huge favor. If he talked about Padmé with Anakin, he'd have to condemn their involvement and possibly report Anakin to the Council. That's his duty as a member of the Order. By turning a blind eye, he is offering Anakin as much support as he can as a member of the Jedi Order. And depending on how you look at it, this choice Obi-Wan makes is either symptomatic of the moral rot of the Jedi Order or an indication that Obi-Wan himself is out of step with the illogical and unreasonable dogmatic rigidity of the Jedi Order. I actually can't pick a side on that one. I can see it both ways and don't know if it's Obi-Wan doing the right thing for the wrong reasons or the wrong thing for the right reasons. I'm pretty sure it's not Obi-Wan doing the right thing for the right reasons in this instance. Anakin needed to be able to talk to Obi-Wan about Padmé. He didn't need only Obi-Wan's silence. And honestly, having to leave the Jedi Order on amicable if somewhat disgraced terms might have been good for him. The Republic had a non-Jedi military that wasn't just clones that could have still made use of Anakin's skills, if they thought they needed him for that. Re: Anakin's engineering abilities—yes!! They are a big part of him, and they are a part that was underutilized by the Jedi. At his most lost and confused in Episode III, Anakin comes back to fixing things. Darth Vader did a lot of his own tech too. The Jedi, I think, get caught up in the mysticism of the Force and ignore the utility and honor of other skill sets. Having other things he was doing and respected for doing might have given Ani a counterbalance to his abilities in the Force, as well as something to fall back on if he decided to leave the Jedi. You don't think Anakin Skywalker, creator of C-3PO, winner of the Boonta Eve Classic in a pod of his own design made from scraps, couldn't have supported himself with his inventions and mechanical abilities? He could've been somebody even if he never became a Jedi. I in fact ascribe to the fan group that thinks Anakin shouldn't have been a Jedi or should have left. He wasn't suited, not because of any inherent weakness in his character or even because he came so late to the Order but just because temperamentally and spiritually, by nature, he had a different disposition. He could have been a great soldier and commander—outside the Jedi. He could have been a historically amazing pilot or a galaxy-famous (and probably filthy rich) inventor. And he wouldn't have had to deal with the pressures and expectations of the Jedi or the reality of the differences in the actual Order from the idealized vision he had as a slave child far away from the areas of the galaxy in which the Jedi actually operated. Obi-Wan's endeavors to make Anakin work as a Jedi anyway, enable him (in the most psychologically codependent sense), really only hurt Ani in the long run. Obi-Wan meant well. But Anakin *could not function as a Jedi without him.* His instincts were different. His emotions were different. And Obi-Wan was still handling him and covering for him and trying to keep him safe years after Anakin should have been independent. Obi-Wan needed to love his apprentice just a little differently (I won't say less).