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Sennheiser HD560S - after midnight listening session

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Federico Hernández

Hello Oluv, great review! I only have one question. What Q factor would you use with those frequencies you're adjusting on the EQ? I'm using Equalizer APO on Windows and the standard Q factor it uses is 1.41, is that okay for the adjustments you made in this video? If not, what value(s) would you recommend? Thanks in advance.

Robert-Andrei Botezat

Hi, oluv! Congratulations for everything that you are doing! Ever since I found you, I felt in love with your content and the direct and honest, truth and no bullshit approach you take on the audio market! Really needed this! Now, I would like to ask you if there's any neutral equalizer for this hd560s headphone, like you have on the hd600.

Eliot Jacobsen

Servus Oluv! I like this. Great, chill combination of listening, A/B comparisons and measurements with comparisons. It would be interesting to see how your in-ear mics measure on a felt flat plate so that we can get a sense for the contribution of your ear shape to the measurements you take with the in-ears in your ears. What's the song at 34min?

oluvsgadgets

The pure mics measure close to flat, I compared them to my UMIK-1. Solderdude measures flat plate, you can comapre his to mine directly. I will post the full playlist later.

Gianmarco

Great job as always Oluv! Have you ever tried the HD660S? Yesterday I compared them with the HD650, I found the midrange of HD660S a tiny bit muddy, but hidden details are clearer and really easier to find out in comparison with the HD650! I'd like to hear your opinion

oluvsgadgets

I must confess I have never heard the HD660S and I think it's too expensive for what it offers. I didn't like the HD6XX (which is the HD650 more or less) that much either. It was too muddy for me, especially compared against the HD600.

Nuno Borges

Checking the differences in clap tone in Clapton recording :D

oluvsgadgets

I think everyone should know how a realistic clap should sound, it also has something of a pink noise character.

Nuno Borges

Silly jokes aside, this is another great session! I am really leaning towards buying these, but one previous question: have you tried them with the Radsone Earstudio amp? Do you think the EQ tweaks should be the same as the ones you used in iTunes?

oluvsgadgets

Yes it sounds even better with the Radsone. I didn’t reduce that much with the Radsone, I will post my settings I just need to get a new unit without imbalance issues

عمار عبدالله

I have tried the hd6xx and yes the mid-bass hump makes the headphone sounds muddy, so I think the hd560s is a great value.

Matthias Koehler

Ich bin heute mal nicht deiner Meinung. Der Elex klingt für mich runder, ausgewogener ob mit oder ohne EQ beim HD560. Vielleicht bin ich voreingenommen da ich die Session über einen Elear mit Clear Pads höre und der Sound näher an meine Gewohnheit kommt . Gerade bei den Steve Mc Queens fand ich die Frauenstimme weit besser. Danke für das Video und ich freue mich, dass du wieder Kopfhörer testest. Viele Grüsse aus Deutschland

oluvsgadgets

Ich habe gemerkt dass der HD560S über den Radsone EQ deutlich besser klingt als über iTunes. Ich vermute die Bandbreite der Bänder ist in iTunes schmäler und der Eingriff klingt resonanter. Beim Elex (zumindest der aktuell gebastelten) passt in den Höhen etwas nicht, ich hab auch mit den Pads ein wenig gespielt und sie nicht ganz reingesteckt, klingt dann für mich deutlich angenehmer. Bin echt gespannt ob mir Drop wirklich noch den versprochenen schickt. Ich warte schon über 1 Jahr drauf.

Matthias Koehler

Wenn du schon 1 Jahr darauf wartest sieht das nicht so rosig aus, oder ?

oluvsgadgets

naja, es wurde mir erst vor 2 Wochen bestätigt, dass ein neuer verschickt wird. Aber das hatte ich bereits mal, hat gemeint er wäre unterwegs, und dann kam doch nix. Mit dem Elex ist das so eine Sache, ich glaube die wollten nicht wirklich dass ich den überhaupt bekomme.

Wu

Great video Oluv! I like how you kept saying you will leave the EQ off but can't help turning it on again haha. I take it as a tell of how boosted the treble is. Also iTunes might not be the best option to do an EQ on/off test due to the delay in switching, though the difference in this one is obvious.

Luca

Mir hat der 560S nicht gefallen, irgendwo zwischen 2 und 7khz hat er zu viel und oberhalb 8khz dann zu wenig.

oluvsgadgets

Ich finde nicht dass ihm oberhalb von 8khz was fehlt, die Höhen sind insgesamt sehr betont aber der peak bei 5khz ist halt am störendsten

Zac Aviad

Hi Oluv. I've heard some people say there are similarities between the 560S and the DT880... I loved the DT880, it's the least offensive on treble from the DTs and hit my liking. I was wondering if you could give a detailed opinion on that comparison, as I'm considering making purchases soon. Thanks and glad to see you back on headphones reviews.

oluvsgadgets

I sent my HD560S in to Sennheiser, I hope they will fix the imbalance: if it’s ok I will consider getting the DT880 again, but from memory the Sennheiser plays in a higher class. It’s also usable without any EQ while the Beyerdynamic was unusable to me. With a bit of EQ the Sennheiser is one of the best I have heard.

Ciprian Tepes

Hi, Oluv, many years ago I had a pair of Sennheiser G4ME ONE and I liked the way they sounded but hated the lack of bass. I also didn't like the mic. Now I'm using a pair of AKG k361 and I saw the hype for the 560S. I'm looking for a pair of headphones between $200-$300 that would sound good enough - soundstage, bass. In a post you wrote that the HD 660s are not worth the price. What are your thoughts? Thanks

attilio7

@Ciprian Tepes They are on Amazon UK for £169, I am seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on them,after hearing the after midnight listening session.I don't recall seeing a post saying they are not worth the money.

attilio7

I cant watch that guy,he freaks me out.

Alejandro Garza

Great review! Please check the Ollo Audio SX4, they swear they are the flattest and honest on the market. Your opinion would be great...

Alejandro Garza

Wow, never saw this review from sonarworks, interesting website. I will hold my purchase and see more of your videos. Thank you Oluv! LG aus Graz :)

KlarkKentThe3rd

Neutral, dynamic, open, clear (o_o)phones with deep bass extension, no large peaks or dips, good stereo imaging, (at least) decent soundstage, replaceable cable and cups (and headband too, please)........ is my holy grail. I believe it can exist, but so many companies don't even try to make a model like that. Sennheiser and Focal are one of the few who seem to be at least TRYING. For a short time it seemed like 560 would be it, and yet most recordings (yours is one of the few) made me cautious. Hearing this and seeing your measurements sank my heart. Guess 58X it is, even though I know full well it is more muddy. At least it is more neutral. And definitely more clear than the model I have had for years (HD 558). Your midnight session saved me future 200 dollars.

oluvsgadgets

Etymotic ER4S Micropro if I really want reference sound

Nemanja Matovic

Got them recently after watching your and others review and you are right about that 5kHz peak. I lowered it for 2 db and sound much better that way. Can be a bit brighter depending on the music mastering but great details in the highs. Looking forward to hear your review on Sundara's 2020.

Matthew Orme

Great video Oluv, thank you. Very helpful to me as I’m currently making exactly this purchasing decision, between 560s new or 600 used. I’m happy to eq. When Covid rules allow I’ll be able to listen to the 560s and a new 600 in a local dealer. They also have the Hifiman sundara. Interested to see you are not too keen on the 2020 revision, even with eq. Looking forward to your full sundara review.

oluvsgadgets

The only one which sounds really balanced is the HD600, it works fine without EQ, for me still one of the most neutral sounding headphones, just don’t expect any lower bass rumble. Both HD560S and Sundara 2020 are unusable to me without EQ, they are both too harsh. I am not sure though which one I would prefer equalized, I am just fine with the HE4XX with EQ, don’t see any need for something more expensive I still need to equalize.

Matthew Orme

Thanks Oluv, that’s interesting. Currently the he4xx is at $180 on drop, not sure what that would be by the time it was delivered in the UK. Imagine it would be similar to the hd560s (£169 here, so about $230). And with the 560s there’s a 2 year warranty and having a face to face dealer (or at least mask to mask...). So leaning towards 560s. Having said that, I’ll be playing it on an iPhone and iPad (mostly Spotify) so no way (I think?) to do global eq. That does make me think about the hd600 used. I’ll see what they sound like when I can get to the dealer. Interesting you say you’re not sure which you prefer out of 560s and sundara 2020 with eq. I had thought you preferred the 560s. Sundara is quite a bit more, so would obviously need to justify the extra cost. Thanks again.

Matthew Orme

By the way, I have a minirig 1.1 setup I really like bought after watching your videos. In particular they have a really good tone for a small portable speaker.

Jörg Bornefeld

Hallo Oluv, ich finde den Vergleich zum HD600 ähnlich wie zum HD58x. Beide hören sich im direkten Vergleich zu dem neuen Senni etwas "muddy" an, beide sind aber neutraler, finde ich.

oluvsgadgets

Ich bin gerade dabei meine Aufnahmen für die neuen Mikrofone zu optimieren, da ich nicht mehr per Ohr entzerre dürften die Resultate viel näher an der Realität werden: die ersten Tests sind sehr vielversprechend. Auch mir ist aufgefallen dass der HD600 viel zu muffig rüberkam.