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Which tuning sounds best for you?

  • 5400 13
  • 5600 2
  • 5800 9
  • 6000 11
  • 6200 46
  • 6400 16
  • 6600 6
  • 6800 15
  • 7000 39
  • 2021-12-03
  • 157 votes
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This refers to the latest "flat" tunings of the Earfun Free Pro I posted lately, although some prefer my older tunings, I just want to know your approximate resonance value as I would like to collect all values in order to have a better oversight about the overall distribution of individual resonance frequencies.  This will be important for an own product as I will need to create the basic tuning for an average value approximating the lower and higher resonance frequencies by somehow adjusting the distance of the driver to your eardrum with different tips etc. 

Update: I didn't think about adding options for even lower or higher values, therefore please leave a comment if your own resonance frequency may be even higher or lower than the values provided here as I need to also capture those spikes to be able to create a better average.

Comments

Lennards Welt

Ich habe einen weiteren earfun free pro mit dem letzten neutralen eq 6400 und alternativ 6200 aufgespielt. Mir ist aufgefallen, dass er im Vergleich zur Oluv Edition, die ich aktuell mit der 6300 Variante bespielt habe, zu "boomy" ist. Nachdem ich beim neuen earfun auch die 6300 EQ eingespielt hatte hört er sich für mich am neutralsten an.

yossibm

I initially tried the 6300 tuning since i didn't understood how to check for the resonance frequency. it really sounded off to me. but then I read what you wrote about the frequency sweep and it sounded that my peak was at near 6800. I tried the new 6800 tuning and it sounded really great. even better than the original (which I know think that it sounds good thanks to the recessed upper treble which protect from another peak). now I understand how important is the length of the ear canal, and I am pretty amazed how other reviewers such as Crinacle totally ignore that issue. have you tried to reach them or earphone manufacturers for comment?

oluvsgadgets

I had a discussion with Crinacle regarding this topic but he didn’t find it important.

D. Oeltermann

Not important? The physics are not important? Strange attitude….

oluvsgadgets

He said there is no need for different “tunings” and they are not “tunings” because it’s not an instrument…

yossibm

is it possible that he doesn't hear it since chinese people have shorter ear canals?

Bishi

Die earfun für 42 Euro im Angebot gekauft, altes Android Handy genommen und das 7000er Tuning aufgespielt. Hört sich super an, vielleicht etwas zu viel Tiefbass ansonsten super, was aus den kleinen Dingern rauskommt. Danke

oluvsgadgets

Verschiebe due Bassfrequenz etwas nach unten da kannst du es noch nachjustieren.

Marioragcurtain

Seems like he really only relies on measurements. Maybe he thinks it should sound however it sounds for your ears and its oke that everyone just hears it differently. With headphones i could understand that philosofie but i think iems benefit more from individual tuning.

shyonetwo

Yes, it's so logical because IEMs block the ear canal unlike usual headphones do. So this resonance frequency is a main factor to good sound indeed.

Dimitar Georgiev

I have both Oluv's and Stock editions and for me personally with 6800 Hz tuning even the Oluv's edition sound much more balanced and natural. I had to reduce bass 0.5 dB more for it though. I can not agree with Crinacle's opinion about the tunings. Everything which produces sound waves is a kind of instrument in my opinion. Great work, Oluv!

Malcolm Herron

Tips with a shallower insert give a peak of 6600 for me. Deeper tips produce 7000.

oluvsgadgets

I know but I need to find exact Tip designs which would produce the exact wanted result, like an exact shift by 200hz because this is where it starts to become scruffy a bit, 200hz more or less it starts to sound considerably worse.

Malcolm Herron

This observation just validates what you’re doing. A deeper insert, a shorter ear canal and a higher peak. I just don’t get a good seal with the original tips so I end up using 3rd party ones

Nils

How does I change the frequency via app?

oluvsgadgets

Could you still get an acceptable result with alternate tips?

Malcolm Herron

Yes the sound is perfect. Changing the tips alters the sound but I just find the peak with them and switch to a different EQ. I did have to cut the ends off some foamies so they’d fit in the charging box. Initially when I got the earfun free pros I didn’t use them much since I didn’t get a good seal and changing the tips could make them sound a bit harsh. But now I don’t listen to anything else

oluvsgadgets

I wonder if you will like the Free Pro 2, as it will definitely sound different. Currently I prefer the 2 as it adds even more openness to the sound and sounds even broader and more spacious and I am not sure if this is just the result of slightly different tuning or if there are other technical aspects which could explain that difference in perception.

Pieter Algra

Hi Oluv, my peak is around 7000 Hz. The Earfun Free Pro sound for me even better with 7000 tuning in comparison to the 6200 tuning. I hear more openess, detail and clearness in the treble region. However I do have a question. After setting up and uploading the 7200 tuning in the earbuds and doing the sine sweep, I still hear the peak around the 7000 Hz. Shouldn’t this peak be gone due it should have been compensated with the tuning? Or could it be the peak is for my ears that high that The tuning doesn’t compensate enough to remove it completely?

oluvsgadgets

In theory there shouldn’t be any peak hearable anymore or very slightly depending on how well it was smoothened out. If I use the tuning for myself but don’t insert the earbuds properly which will result in some slightly different resonance I can also hear the peak again but not as strong. Maybe your resonance is even higher than this and the he 7000hz tuning doesn’t compensate enough for that.

Pieter Algra

Hi Oluv, thank you. The peak is at its strong at 7000 and rolls of afterwards (when the sine sweep goes higher), therefor I think 7000 is correct. Maybe my peak is higher in volume / louder than the tuning compensate or maybe it’s wider? Is there any additional adjustments I can make on the tuning? Also another question; if I don’t have any raw tuning left on the 4 presets, what settings should I put the 10 bands on to have it as a raw tuning?

oluvsgadgets

Of course but it’s rather slow and I prefer sweeping manually especially in the questioner frequency range to be able to detect the peak better, but it should work like this as swell. You can try adjusting the 7000hz filter a bit more and see if it improves the result for you.

Ef Jay

Will the previous method using pink noise be valid? Maybe doing it wrong but I don't perceive any difference using the dine tone.

oluvsgadgets

With the raw tuning? You don’t hear any change in amplitude at all between 5-8K? What about 2.7? There are 3 distinct raises hearable with the raw response which should make it easy to track down your own resonance.

Ef Jay

What I do is open up a spare slot, set one frequency at 5000 and adjust in increments but the tone appears the same with each adjustment whereas when I used the pink noise I could definitely hear a difference. Also testing a few around my previous resonance setting sound darker and closed in compared to previous settings.

Ef Jay

I used that site, I just don't discern any change in loudness.

Pieter Algra

Thanks Olaf. Will you also create a tuning for 7000 hz for the Free Pro 2!

Ef Jay

Not that I can hear

oluvsgadgets

That’s really weird as there should be at least some 6dB difference it’s very obvious usually

Ef Jay

No problem, I will give the procedure a try again and report back

Pieter Algra

Hi Olaf, I did a sine sweep again and found the peak was around 7700 hz. Is it possible but to create a tuning for that frequency?

MikeDaveYap

ive seen your video and the range of 6000 to 6200 sound best to me as its real flat and its good

oluvsgadgets

All sound the same at their given resonance. Just that the recording was done at 6200

oluvsgadgets

Are you sure it’s the second peak you hear and not the 3rd?

Pieter Algra

The volume of the peak is getting stronger up to 7700 Hz. After that its getting lower again. Is there a third peak? Because I can’t see a third peak on the raw eq frequency response you showed in your tuning comparison of 10/2021: https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/3/eyJ3Ijo4MjB9/patreon-media/p/post/57711555/1c4f56275e4742dca1e8a1f29effc599/1.png?token-time=1640044800&token-hash=JacFnRBD1GLZdsCKER2yd8HGfwnCsZWHT9FbZLv9aik%3D in topic: https://www.patreon.com/posts/earfun-free-pro-57711555

shyonetwo

I voted for the 6200 although I actually use the 6300 flat tuning which was released before.

Kim Ljungberg

Mine was different depending on the tips I used. With the spinfit tips I measured 6200 but 6400 with the stock ones. I'll probably stick with the stock tips until I get my Free Pro 2 and then play around with the different tips on those to see which sound better.

iforgotmine

I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I just upgraded my subscription so I can tune my Free Pro 2s. Can someone share what I need to do to determine my individual resonance? I can't seem to find any instructions. Thanks.