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Neumann KH80 & Nubert X3000 (Patreon)

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2023-05-07 09:11:07
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2026-06
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Please listen with my previous X-EQs for the HD600 and HD58X to get the "right" sound. 

Below you can see the KH80 placed in my living room as shown stock (grey) and equalized in black. Averaged RTA measurements with moving microphone at listening position.(unsmoothened).:

With psychoacoustic smoothin:g:

I will use this as reference for optimising my headphone target. I have a first result for the HD58X finished, which I will post later or tomorrow. I need to do some further tests, but it sounds very close to the speakers and should represent "neutral" for a headphone as well as possible. I will share more details soon, so stay tuned.

Meanwhile I also optimised my settings for the X3000 based on this setup, in this video they are still playing with my old settings which honestly are not that great. I had to apply the HP-filter to 50hz in order to get rid of the heavy bass peak, but thanks to this they sound way more natural now, despite the dips between 300-600Hz which I couldn't quite get rid of. 

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Marioragcurtain

Should I also use the x3000-kh80 filter or only the X eq?

oluvsgadgets

Only the X. The X3000-kh80 was just a quick adjustment to make my X target a bit more neutral. But my recording is compensated for my pure X-tunings. I will need a completely new compensation based on my new N-target and am experimenting right now how to achieve it most precisely.

Wyatt Postlethwaite

Since you’re going for a fairly flat response according to the measurement, is your room considered “dead” or anechoic? Or is the flat response in a regular room what you’re trying to achieve?

oluvsgadgets

It’s a regular room as most are listening to music in regular rooms. I placed the speakers nearfield and more in the room Center to avoid too much added wall reflections and equalised the given response to flat as good as possible, I also tried other rooms but the final result would be pretty similar as long as one is sitting exactly in the stereo triangle. As soon as you move too much forward or back or turn your head to the side the response will change of course but I tried to achieve the response that one would get when listening to neutral speakers at ear height sitting exactly in the sweet spot with some slight averaging. I also have optional versions with more averaging which I will also post.

Wyatt Postlethwaite

Thanks for the response. Isn’t the conventional thinking that a speaker would be measured with a slight downward tilt in a regular room? As to not sound overly bright?

oluvsgadgets

You can always add any tilt you like afterwards, but I need to get an as clean and flat noise-like spectrum as reference, to be able to reproduce this as pink noise in a headphone. If I get these 2 as close as possible in timbre, because it’s nearly impossible to get them exactly equal, then you can add any coloration you like, more bass, more treble to any amount you like. The key point is to have a neutral reference which in my case was approached in this particular room, but I demonstrated in the video how close the sound of the speakers can be brought to the original recording. Listening in other rooms gets you a different ambience, but if the speakers are equalised to flat the overall spectrum should not sound that different, these are rather nuances masked by other variables. I am quite satisfied with the result and the headphone still sounds really comparable to the KH80 when placed in another room.

Patric

Hallo Oluv! Hast du mittlerweile etwas an den Einstellungen geändert bezüglich der 3000‘er? Oder sind es noch die „alten“ Einstellungen? Ich hatte noch in Erinnerung hp 50 hz, eq -1 bei 60 hz und den Bass auf -3 dB. Falls du was optimiert hast, würde mich das sehr interessieren! Grüße 🖖

Patric

Ich finde es echt scheiße und ziemlich arrogant von dir nicht zu antworten. Ich bezahle auch noch jeden Monat dafür. Für was hältst du dich eigentlich?! Wenn du einen Funken Anstand hättest, würdest du deinen „Kunden“ wenigstens antworten. Ganz schwach!

oluvsgadgets

Wenn du dringend was brauchst schreib mir direkt eine Nachricht, hab ich schon oft genug hier geschrieben. Bei den Kommentaren verliert man schnell den Überblick. Und wenn dir was nicht passt, dann bitte ich retourniere dir dein Geld und das war’s. Aber hier von irgendeinem fremden beschimpft zu werden dafür hab ich keinen Bock!

Patric

Bei 8 Kommentare in einem Beitrag verlierst du den Überblick?! 🙄

oluvsgadgets

Nein aber ich bekomm keine Benachrichtigung über Kommentare. Und wenn dann beim nachschauen was nicht klappt weiß ich nicht in welchem Post der Kommentar war. Ich Check nicht täglich alle postings. Deshalb schreib ich immer dass wenn jemand dringend was braucht er mir am besten direkt eine Nachricht schickt, die habe ich alle in einer Liste und kann unbeantwortete sofort sehen

oluvsgadgets

Zu deiner Frage: ich hab seitdem nichts mehr geändert aber die Einstellungen sind ziemlich raumanhängig, so kann es sein dass es in einem anderen Raum nicht so gut klingt

Patric

Ok danke! 👍🏼