Some more stuff about the Wisdom Saga (Patreon)

The saga has been out for a few weeks now. How's everyone feeling?

Anyway, there's some stuff that I wanna talk about in regards to my work in the Wisdom Saga.

As always, PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION OR DISCUSS IT OUTSIDE OF PATREON!

• I wasn't "assigned" Athena's Final Stand. Jay actually have me 3 options in God Games to animate and asked which one I felt the most drawn to.

• The choices were: Aphrodite, Hera and Zeus. You know which one I chose.

• I had just submitted the very first rough animation when Jay told me every detail of what happens in the end. And I had to take a moment to process it.

• I made several concept arts including Athena in a Yamcha pose, which I scrapped and deleted LOL but there's a remnant of it in a concept art of Athena's crater. This was after Zeus's first attack.

• Athena wasn't supposed to bleed until after she loses the shield. But Jay thought it would be better for her to rise up already wounded. Explanation for that is she used the shield to protect herself and the blast was so strong, the shield knocked on her head and even through the helmet, split a bit of her skin, thus her bleeding through the helmet.

• Several concepts for the arena were made but eventually scrapped. One concept I was particularly fond of was a Sun dial type arena, and the gold statues of 12 Olympian gods represented each hour. I'll post those one of these days.

• The "Please" part in Athena's final lines was I assume a late addition. The initial demo sent to me only had her singing "Let Him Go" twice, and it wasn't til halfway into production that Jay sent me the final recording containing Athena singing "Please, let him go"

• Several concepts were made regarding Zeus's throne as well, including one that had the throne made out of an oak tree (one of him symbols) but it was eventually scrapped.

• If you're wondering why Smoolio and Wolfy'd background and arena was different from mine, it's because Jay wanted it that way. He preferred to give us creative freedom, never mind that it was inconsistent in between scenes. He heard me out on several arena concepts, lots of them quite complex, but he was kind in his words when he chose to scrap it, and he eventually liked the final take, which was a simpler battle arena based off of Dragonball Z Cell Games and Dragonball Super Tournament of Power

• Zeus is heavily inspired from Broly of Dragonball Super (not the Broly in movies). This is Jay approved.

• We had talked about possibly shattering and destroying the Aegis shield and we were both excited, until we realized it was supposed to be an unbreakable shield. So the choice was made for it to fly off Athena's hands instead.

• Before knowing Athena's fate, I had initially told Jay that I wanted Athena to stab Zeus in the chest with what remained of her spear, and it's what ultimately stops his attacks before she falls unconscious. Again, this was before jay told me exactly what happens in the end, and before Jay and I had a long discussion about Zeus's motivations and characterization, which led to me instantly scrapping the stabby stab idea.

• Jay does have a characterization and motivation for Zeus on why he did what he did. I won't explain it here, but I will say that him going Beast Mode is very much in character for EPIC Zeus.

• Athena's design is not my own, but my own slightly altered take on it. Jay sent me concepts already made by I believe Giulia and another by Mircsy.

• Beast Mode Zeus was based off of Samantha Arts (Thunder Bringer Zeus) design, but in white instead of black. The reasoning for this is it has been years since the Thunder Saga and Zeus just happened to change clothes (though I honestly thought there was gonna be a transformation sequence LOL)

• I had proposed and advocated for a transformation sequence to beast mode Zeus, with Zeus having silver hair, and his coloring changing from gold highlights to blue highlights since blue lightning was hotter. But this had to ultimately be scrapped, likely because it would've been too similar to Dragonball Super (esp since Zeus is already inspired from Broly)

• I advocated for the God Games gods to be shown in brief moments during Athena's final stand. jay initially declined it, because it would be too distracting, and I agreed. It wasn't til a few days later that he came back and said he thought about it and agreed the gods should be there.

• The scene with the creatures in the audience is based off of a Yuyu Hakusho dark tournament arc audience scene of monsters. Except Jay wanted me to draw Greek mythical creatures and gave me complete creative control over it, and just asked that I add winions. Which I did, but I also added other creatures like the Bird Siren (yes, it's canon but can also represent a Harpy), Water Siren, Minotaur, Chimera, Giant, Cyclops, Centaur, Water Nymph, Pegasus (iykyk) and Phoenix. Cerberus was also there but was cropped out of the scene due to lack of space. Lotus eaters were there too, eating lotus fruit and watching while sky high. Jay loved the lotus eaters and kept them there.

• Jay was very particular about the light fading from Athena's armor and the saturation of her colors lowering to something less vibrant.

And now, super duper exclusive thingie (SECRET, PLEASE KEEP A SECRET) ...

• In one of the audience scenes, Hermes was considered as one of the gods watching, along with Dionysus. I even volunteered to design Dionysus. Ultimately, the idea was scrapped because it would distract people from watching Athena's final stand unfold.

That is it for now. Things are starting to get very busy for me in the meantime but I will try to post still. See you around guys!