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Time for an in depth Blood Crown update. I'm going to go over: the status, the cause of the delays and what the future holds.

Before you read on, check out the little teaser clip I've included with this update. This is the concept for the reimagined intro. It does not contain sex but nevertheless, I hope you like the direction I'm taking with this and it will give a little more context to what we're about to dive into. As usual though, it's overly dramatic :)

The status of BC and reason for the delays

Let's begin with the status. There's no point in launching into a forensic analysis here, the project isn’t in a state where estimates would hold water. Originally I had planned on releasing Blood Crown in 2 parts. First pass animations had been completed for all scenes including part 1 and part 2 transitional and sex scenes about two years ago. However when it came to the polish phase, which is theoretically the last animation pass I wasn't happy with the overall quality, which stalled progress. We at the time attempted various approaches, each of which took a considerable amount of time, but in the end it basically boiled down to me doing all the polish. Fine in theory, but that's where things got messy. In short, the project has progressed only a little since then.

I've been asked, why are you slower as a team than this solo artist x. Actually the team adds complexity before it becomes efficient, but the bottom line is, as complex as animation projects are, they work themselves out so long as the guy running the show stays focused. I however got distracted a lot, by too many projects and I can get lazy. My fault and I take responsibility. One thing that’s never changed though, is my interest in the project. So…

What does the future hold for BC?

That's where the teaser comes in. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it. It's a new approach to getting BC completed, but first a disclaimer:

For the purpose of Patreon content, consider BC content only as bonus material. We've taken off the BC image and logo from the Patreon banner, BC is only being referred to in the intro as bonus material and I haven't been doing any Affect3D updates. In other words, don't expect any BC content.

Having said that, I do plan on working on it as follows: As someone suggested, I’m breaking up part 1 of BC into several parts. Don't yet know how many but I plan on releasing half of part 1 to Patreon. I’ll work on parts sequentially and release them as I complete them. In the meantime, I'll keep doing monthly BC updates. I'm reengineering the project to bring it up to the latest tech, style, and fidelity that I'm able to produce and I'm pretty stoked about it. That’s my update for now, let me know if you have any questions in the comments below.

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Yuwf

I remember we got a discount for the release of one of the animations. Will that happen for BC?

Dyslexic Batnam

It's been another 2 years lol, is blood crown ever gonna come out?

Tyler Johnson

Guess I'm not the only one to join and realize they're just yanking our chains and never gonna release blood crown

Roch Alpha

So it’s been 4 years since Bloodlust Cerene was released, and based off this update it will be quite sometime, if not even more years before we see anything fully polished and released. This is completely horrendous project management and should be addressed. I’ve been a Patreon supporter since day 1, and this is a severely disappointing update to say the very least

Matt

Dorio

"Don't expect any BC content" but we got here for BL in the first place, not just an image set or short animation.

Affect3D - miro

right, I suggest you don't expect anything from the blood crown project anytime soon

Zircronium

Can't speak for others, but I personally subscribed because of this flagship project. I didn't want any of the extra shit and would have preferred you just work on BC. But here I am 4 years later and 240 dollars poorer, with like 2 relevant trailers and a bunch of image sets and side projects I never even asked for in return for my loyalty. I'm not an artist by any means and may not understand the process at all, but this is some poor fucking management and communication. Enjoy the 240 dollars. I will just pirate all your shit when it comes out in 2027.

Cjam

You got my support man. Whatever direction you think the project needs to go, do it. If I have any criticism.. it’s that some of the recent models seem to have been getting more and more exaggerated in proportions. Idk about the other supporters.. but personally, that’s not a benefit IMO. I found the models in GF4E to be damn near perfect. I appreciate all the work you do to improve things. But honestly, if you just rolled out more of that.. I’d be a satisfied supporter. Just saying, don’t kill yourself trying to one up your past work. You gained us as fans because we liked it. Creating more of that content would still be appreciated. But again, you do what you think needs doing. We’ll provide the feedback. The new trailer looks pretty wicked.. it’s Unreal 5 I take it? Pretty killer look. Oh, and DAMN I miss hearing Marie do those voice updates! She could melt steel with that voice

Ploni Almoni

The castle on the snow is incredible. Eorthyof Lord of the rings

generic genetics

Nice to hear that more of a definitive plan for moving things forward has been decided on, and even better that it sounds like plenty will be brought here when it's ready. That location intro was really good, the effect of weather and lighting along with the washed-out colour scheme with hints of warmer colours really added the gothic feel of the immense building. Had a good dark high fantasy feel. That being said my only real concern for the future of the project, and I think this may have happened once before, that an update for the look of the project to keep things on the cutting edge and with the latest tech will perpetually lead to delays in the project. The character models and such have been showcased to be usable quite a few times in the past, but they keep being replaced by new ones or continually tweaked, similarly with other parts of the project. Updating models and such is good when starting a new project or a sequel but not in the middle of a WIP. That kind of thing seems to lead huge delays as things have to started over multiple times which can easily lead to burn out both for creators and customers. I appreciate wanting to make things look as good as possible but there often needs to be a point when a creator is happy enough and save the next big thing for the next big project.

Roch Alpha

Then if you, Miro, are unwilling to work on BC, remove yourself from the project and let your team finish the damn job.

Grayve

I'm here for the sets, which haven't really been coming out either. Just lots of WiP stuff since you decided to 'refocus' on BC. It feels a lot of the good image sets were from over a year ago, hope to see some of them return.

Dorio

From this post, we still don't know any general timeline for what will happen in the future as Miro keeps splitting into many parts. New Lanessa's Lair, looked really great gorgeous, and mass (I mean it) but I have to ask, why did you make the outside lair so large and detailed when most of the important time would be focused on the inside or room? It still feels weird that a building that could hold a thousand people but only 2 or 3 characters show up. I didn't mean to add more characters but they would be lonely and may/may not affect interior design which gives blue coolness but the outside is so yellow and warm. Just to remind you, Outside is really shiny but Vampire can't hold the sunlight that place would be less recommended for Vampire than Old Lair which could have snowy all year(with less sunlight of cause).

Affect3D - miro

I'm inspired to complete the project and am fully dedicated to it now, but I'm saying, don't have any expectations

Just some Fish

Yeah, gotta agree with this one. I have not been thrilled with the... filler content. I would rather have just been getting progress reports (I miss them being voiced) and the occasional WIP render and then "hey, here's BC, we hope you love it."

Roch Alpha

Where was the dedication the last couple years?! Or were you just resting on your prior success. We’ve been paying money via Patreon and supporting with purchases on Affect3D.com. If I were to just show up to work and tell my manager “I’m not feeling motivated.” for any length of time I wouldn’t have a job… but seeing as how your the “creator” you seem to have jumped through a large number of mental hoops to justify this behavior.

Kyla

Oh... This isn't going to end well as it should have been done 2 years ago with the same messaging.... regardless of me being hired, this was so painfully obvious to be the case yet we for 2 years getting on 3 just well.... exaggerated what was realistically getting done...... I'm still a fan somehow, honestly I'm a bit lost on how these days.... I try to offer up some assistance and constantly get shot down, so that area aka management you seriously suck at never get's any help, isn't a bad thing for say... not everyone can have a baseline of "good" at all areas in life it's just not possible.... yet you need to see what is clear and let people help you in those areas... you already do this to a reasonable extent in other places like Slushe and the main A3D sales/blog site yet on content side of things certainly on large projects you're not doing yourself any favors on how you keep running stuff..... Though are we actually going to see change? or is this another want that lacks the determination to make it happen long term? I still think you have a style that you like and do input on stuff we make ( it does happen people just not enough sometimes) though your skillset runs in the creation not the oversight of how X get's made, (management skillset) then you also need someone/many people to hold your feet to the fire when shit isn't moving or poor choices are being made..... this realistically doesn't happen so you have very little ways to be held accountable for what you're doing, do I think it's in any form of malice what you do... nah however I can see how some other people view it that way... Though end of the day.... this NEEDS to stick and actually happen with a shakeup on what is going on behind the scenes as no where near enough has changed in the past when saying similar. Either way... you need help so take people up on it when they offer to remove some work load or tasks that you'd normally do.... focus on content creation. Side note.... the way you worded this isn't going to help you, it's highly dismissive of lets be honest here, leading along many of your fans on the status of content, if you didn't I'd imagine quite a lot of them would not have stuck around. Side side note... you can have a moderately successful business and still be fairly poor at management... so it's running no where near the levels it COULD be, what you have does work for the most part just not on content creation, this isn't ideal to put it lightly.

Affect3D - miro

you wrote a lot and I will read it in full and I will probably respond again but let me address one point, this patreon wasn't about gifting of Blood Crown, that makes now sense, you've been around so you happen to know about it, but we haven't advertised it or even done an a3d update in years I posted random wips sure, but nothing saying come to my patreon to get all this Blood crown content, that hasn't been true in a long time

Grayve

As for the animation/preview... It looks fine. But I'm not here for scenery porn, I'm here for the futa porn. And there isn't any here. It's a nice intro, but... not what im here for.

Affect3D - miro

well, you shouldn't expect any further BC content, which doesn't mean I'm not working on it I'm not focusing on the exterior, I'm just adding the layer of polish I mentioned in my post, starting with the intro :)

Affect3D - miro

why did you stay if you didn't like the other content?... having said that I get why you're upset about the BC situation and don't blame you

Grayve

So, what exactly are we getting for being patreons now? Just.. half of BC at some unknown point in the future?

Anonymousb

At this point we might as well just unsubscribe. We're glad you are getting back to working on BC but the delays have gone on for long enough. This is just going to be another rabbit hole for Miro to lose himself in and not work on the real project. If there were promise of BC content being released on the Patreon then we might stay but that doesn't seem to be the case. It honestly sounds like he's going to try to sell the other parts of BC instead of releasing it to us here on Patreon. We deserve that content. Some of us have been here for over a year. That's more than enough money to justify the release of the content into our feed. If that's not the case, then why even bother.

Affect3D - miro

the last year or so I've been in state of flux, not being able to nail down the direction of this project, but I've found it now, at least I'm sort of obsessed with the new tools I'm working with I think there's a range of boob sizes, if that' what you're referring to, so I think you should be able to handle it :)

Affect3D - miro

the look and setting isn't 100% complete yet, but it's taking shape :)

Zircronium

I stayed because I wanted early access to all BC related content, and maybe have a say or two in its conception and creation. That's it. As one of the posts above stated, all of us in the founders tier were here for that. I thought, "okay side projects? That's fine. I guess he needs some variety in what he does. Hope it doesn't detract too much from the flagship project." And yet here we are.

Affect3D - miro

chasing new tech is a trap, but I'm confident we've found our new home, I don't really want to get too technical... let's just start producing nice things :)

Affect3D - miro

we have some actual image set content lined up, if it works out it could kick off as early as Dec

Matt

Zircronium

Funny considering this was my largest and longest porn-related expense to date. I thought I was going to witness the birth of something amazing, but now its just (even more delayed) bonus content and what I've received is nowhere near equivalent to the money I've spent. So yes, I'm sure you can imagine my disappointment.

Affect3D - miro

env isn't that important, but a nice setting can help set the mood :)

Affect3D - miro

we're working on image set content, short anims and also more wip content

Ploni Almoni

It it looking awesome already

Affect3D - miro

I believe that when it comes up patreon's will be happy with approach, but yes, not anytime soon

generic genetics

Good to know your enthusiastic about where things are headed. As a quick, unrelated aside, has there been any joy with moving the older projects from flash to another program. I think I remember reading on the main website that the first attempt was a total wash, well out of your control, but there was another attempt in going forward just wondering if there was any news with that. Purely out of curiosity mind you, the older projects are still perfectly watchable in video form.

Affect3D - miro

getting help isn't easy in art, art isn't a widget that you can mass produce I have found inspiration though, that's the main ingredient right now, with that you you can always find a way

Affect3D - miro

well we produced a lot of content and where BC is concerned, yes there's been a bad patch on my part, but I'm not justifying the behavior, like you, I'm not happy about it

Kyla

I mean how many times have I offered this? I need like 10 other sets of hands to count it.... yeah TLA I'm doing what I can in the tiny area my skillset can be used (as it currently sits there) though for your side of things I mean come on, I don't really like being correct constantly yet damn I've got a 95% success rate so far since joining all while I've been shafted constantly, (Yet I didn't help myself in some cases oh yeah, I can be mean) though come on.... a shakeup needs to happen or honestly I don't buy anything you're saying in that post... past being lazy at times everyone has those fazes. Like I'm here my IRL job is nearly all logistical and managing peoples making sure X get's done on time..... give me a shot, worst case my IRL job skillset doesn't overlap as much as I'd like, though at least we'd have tried something new.... I've been asking since day damn one you know this, though we always seem to take the "we'll look into this later" then it doesn't happen, and nothing changes.

Zircronium

No, lets give the guy a little bit of credit. Despite being engrossed with other side projects, he was definitely working on it. My problem is that miro's time was getting soaked up by stuff I didnt ask for and no way to opt out of it to just get BC stuff. Bottom line is, I paid to support a very specific product, and he has failed to deliver anything meaningful after 4 years.

Roch Alpha

Bullshit, you are making mental leaps and bounds to justify YOUR behavior and laziness. At least TheDude3DX is making more content with Sayako than you are with any of your creations. If you posted this update not expecting backlash, how stupidly arrogant can you get?

Anonymousb

So you don't deny that you'll be trying to sell the BC content individually?

Zircronium

I dont disagree. The lack of communication and transparency is unacceptable.

Affect3D - miro

@Zircronium "I stayed because I wanted early access to all BC related content, and maybe have a say or two in its conception and creation." well that's how things started out, but not every project stays on track unfortunately and we stopped actively advertising the project at that point until a new direction was found @Matt "@Miro, you've intentionally kept your supporters in the dark about the BloodCrown project up until today but now you're asking them why they stayed subscribed for all this time? Are you actually serious? They stayed subscribed because they had HOPE! Hope that you could have and SHOULD have crushed 2-3 years ago but you didn't so they would keep paying!" there was no intent, there simply was a lack of BC specific updates because there was little progress to talk about, in the meantime we do put out other content though If you're only here for the BC content then I understand why you're upset, but it's not all we do. It just so happens that BC is taking shape now, but that's beside the point.

Affect3D - miro

yes, outside of patreon, but most patreons will get it for free (details to be confirmed)

Affect3D - miro

I believe G4E and bloodlust have been moved to a new player that should play on most current systems, is that what you're asking?

Calista

Is it weird if I like the original castle better? I mean, the animation is clearly better for the 'new' castle, but I like the appearance of the old one better. Can't wait for the new vid to release.

Affect3D - miro

not really... like some people prefer minecraft :) I personally trend towards realism though, so I have to try out the new tools

Charles Westfall

The detailing on the new castle looks both impressive and insane. The gothic architecture makes me think of another setting... and that the basement should be routinely checked for mutants, chaos worshipers and genestealer cults.

Affect3D - miro

I think the constant delays have been obvious and we sure haven't been announcing big updates or anything, so I'm not sure what you were expecting... and that doesn't mean I'm justifying anything... communication has been bad on my part

sudo_apt_get_gf

I'll start by saying that I have no knowledge of 3D animation nor the time it takes to complete a particular project (video, picture set, etc). I do know that rendering can take up a lot of the development time. I have a very basic understanding of how 3D art is done. Seeing as how tedious it can be, I have an appreciation for how hard/long (haha) it can be to complete. I've been a fan for some time and I know a lot of hard work has went into all these projects, animations, image sets, and so on. Also, Miro's work was the first porn or erotic art I ever deemed worthy of my money, and I remember purchasing G4E way back when. Glancing at the comments it seems there's a mix of confusion & anger (betrayal even?). I haven't had time to read everything, I'm a busy man myself. But from what I've read, it seems there's a few concerns that are highlighted and I'd like to ask some questions myself. 1. Since Blood Crown will be broken up into several parts, is there an idea on the price of these? I know it would be silly to ask for them for free. But perhaps releasing some of the content for free would be a nice gesture. Considering it's been a couple years since this particular project was supposed to be released. 2. Have you considered changing up your development strategies? Again, I have no idea how your team works. But some change could be a good thing. 3. You've said you're the one doing all the polishing. Is there a reason behind this? 4. Would you consider doing live-streams of your development? I think people actually being able to see you and your team work on projects and art would be a great way to be more transparent, and to keep people from thinking that this Patreon is a scam. I'm unsure if anyone on your team (or you Miro) already stream content or not. It could help to give people an idea of how 3D animations/art is made and how the process actually works. >I've been asked, why are you slower as a team than this solo artist x. I've seen other artist put out content relatively quickly and it blows my mind how they do it. But as you've said, having a team of artists can slow things down. I know all artists have their own styles and development processes and some artist I follow put out content rather slow. But I still love their art regardless. >In other words, don't expect any BC content. I think this comment has caused the most confusion/anger. I don't mind the decision to change the release of BC, but perhaps the word choice was a little off putting. Either way, I'd love to see more BC content no matter how it's released. But with all that said, I hope to see more of your and your teams art in the future. (EDIT): I hit enter by mistake halfway through typing this. Hopefully this will avoid any confusion.

Maxtor

Sad to hear the unfortunate news. I've been patiently waiting for years, just frequently checking in to see whats up. And of course supporting the content you have been creating since you started putting yourself out there. I personally think you need to have a bit more structure to your production department. You cant keep noodling and nit picking at things as a director. This causes delays and issues to your pipeline. All these changes such and switching to blender tests and stuff should be done in a pre-production stage. You cant keep changing your mind as you run a project. I work for an animation studio and I see it happening in upper management all the time for years, and projects catch on fire and sometimes go 8weeks to almost 3 months behind because of back and forth, changes on the fly revisions. Now BC has been slugging along for I don't know how many years now. You need to set up a pipeline and follow it. I see people saying you should have put a release date, but we all know years back how that went on the forums lol. But you, yourself have to set a deadline for your project and your team has to follow it. You HAVE to stick to a schedule otherwise it wont work. I cant stress this part enough. We don't have to know what that deadline is, only you do. Also having the patreon, I get the image sets and keeping people fed, and some people enjoy them a lot, but I would prefer 100% focus to one thing only which is BC, cause that's what you originally set this patreon up for. That's why we all joined to support THAT project not multiple projects, and tests from other artists. It's nice to see them but its detracting from your original focus. Its too many things on the go. Also, if you think this is a good idea, you should do another poll for what people want moving forward with your Patreon in the new year. I would like to see monthly updates to BC and not written ones of whats going on, I want to see actual WIP images. And they don't have to be spoilers, but a lot of individual artists do this and it works. It keeps people invested. We are your investors and investors like to see where their money is going and want a return on their investment, otherwise they pull their money out and reinvest it elsewhere. So just to be mindful of all those things, it became a passion project, but now you are operating on a business level, including running Affect 3D. "Dreams without goals remain dreams" - Denzel Washington. "Without structure, there is no consistency" -Gordon Ramsey Set your goals, milestones, visually represent. I know you want quality stuff but sometimes you have to sacrifice quality for time. The time that's been elapsed thus far, you should technically be further ahead than you have been to be honest. And i'm not saying this to be a jerk, i'm saying this from professional perspective. You can always revisit these projects later too and spruce them up. But you really need to stay on top of this project. Its very important to a lot of people here who have been following you old and new. :)

MarathonWZ

I am taking this as a "careful what you impatient fans/customers wish for" update. 2 years ago, this Patreon was worth it. Love thy neighbor, Lady of the Tower, and other side projects were brilliant. While that was going on, albeit slowly, seemed BC was moving along. But it all had to start over and we get... NOTHING in this Patreon in 2022. Even less than nothing now because we don't get BC content anymore. Sigh... So what do we get on a regular basis on here anymore? More guest artist hack jobs of your content? It's been a long year supporting this project.

Maxtor

This is what i'm talking about Miro. If Kyla has management skills, especially project managing skills where it can be applied to keep your work in check and on track, its something you should really look into. It's VERY important. If you fall into that lazy mode, (her?) position is there to say "There is no lazy, you need to get xyz shit done by this week, otherwise we fall behind schedule etc." You need this structure for a project this big for the vision you have for it.

Maxtor

"art isn't a widget that you can mass produce" Then you need to keep it small. Release it in 4-10 parts if u want to. I dont think people would care because they are getting something! But you need to be able to know you can manage it. You cant have these big visions and no structure to get there.

MarathonWZ

I'm out... vote with your dollars folks

Rhuidean

I guess I should be grateful to get out now. Shockingly disrespectful.

Maxtor

Posting again: I came from the OLD forums to here back in 2017, we hopped over to support BloodCrown. If you look back ALL your continuous content was bloodlust related consecutively. I know you said in a previous post that your focus on here has been images sets and other animations but look at your poll from 2017 https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-do-you-want-21608074 Look at the majority of votes lol. It's what people wanted. 300- g4E 350!- Bloodlust related stuff. So no matter how you spin it, everyone is being vocal now that is the reason they signed up to the patreon in the first place. Before is before, now your patreons are speaking up and telling you what they want to see, vs what you feel they should get. You gotta be receptive to your polls and granted, we always wont get what we ask for, which is fair but we all know the reason why we are here is to support you, and Bloodcrown, all that other stuff is filler. Again. Investors will invest elsewhere if they don't get a return on their investments.

Cabot3D

BC should be priority, not side-content. Somewhere along the way yall lost sight of the whole reason the patreon exists, to support BC, which is now being shoved to the wayside after multiple years of delays. You've forgotten what your audience came here for in the first place, these mini animations and sets are supposed to be supplementary while we wait for BC, not a replacement for it altogether.

Rhuidean

No offense, but he doesn't see us as invested in anything. We're just saps to fund whatever he wants.

JohnboyX

All I see when watching this teaser is a perfectionist who still doesn't know when he should dial things back to actually get a way wayyyyyyy overdue simple porn movie (not a Hollywood blockbuster or AAA video game like this teaser implies 🙄 ) finally out of the door. If this is the level of polish you decided on after taking a whole year looking for the direction in which this project should move on then good night everyone 😵 and be happy if in 2023 (which will mark the 5th year since Royal Descent) even a part of part 1 (that in itself sounds utterly ridiculous 😄 but unfortunately quite realistic now) releases on Patreon. Really really shocking in what a horrible early state Bloodcrown still seems to be in. Way worse than I originally thought 😬 and not only should you be sorry but moreover feel ashamed for such a horrendous management which includes deceiving your supporters for so long 😡 . Don't forget that I still remember the continous updates talking about a Christmas 2021 release. Nothing but lies in retrospective 😔 .

Maxtor

No Offense taken! By all means express your thoughts! <3

Maxtor

I saw the new trailer, and my reaction was "Come on now lol... this is a bit over ambitious!"

Kyla

I never attempt to overstate what I can or might be able to do, never no interest in fluffing myself up... though holy damn I've proposed this sort of idea so many times and every single one gets shot down or "We'll look later" aka no. It's more so the fact that some areas are clearly struggling and we're just not doing much if anything about it... like why not use a person whom is overseeing 137 people irl, my skillset MIGHT overlap well and could increase output and or transparency in much needed places... or I could do a poor job... however not able to know unless given a shot.... that I've asked for getting on 2 years..... plus Slushe sides of things that's another story that I won't get into. End of it all it's so damn frustrating to see the same old stuff happen over and over with very little change enacted to remedy it :( Still it's hard as he's the owner so no one realistically can make him do something or hold him to account ever over these poorly thought out setups, I do think he has his mind in the right place still to this day.... however getting to where we need to be has constant problems that rarely get any attention.

JohnboyX

Same zero self awareness at this point 😵. This is supposed to be porn movie in the end, not Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings 😑 . If that's the level of polish miro wants to achieve then add another 5 years minimum for Bloodcrown Part 1. Dude has clearly lost it 🙄 .

Ryupyroa

The fact that we're nowhere near a release is probably the most insulting. My original rediculous prediction of late 2024 is actually going to happen. The main problem is not only we're we getting absolutely fuck all for BC updates but the actual side content this year has been pitiful compared to previous years. Like abysmal. If you're going to find and hire other artists, hire good ones. These 2018 SFM amateur animations make the entire patreon feel like a massive fall from grace compared to the content we were getting two years ago.

Futa Lord

I guess it's nice to finally see you just admit the reason for the delays is you getting distracted and lazy and not actually focusing on the project. I think everyone's basically known that since the G4E days. As a hobbyist and a person it's understandable. But as a studio and a business, it never has been. And actually realizing it is the first step to fixing it. But I'm not gonna flay you alive like many probably are - as end products go you're probably the best futa artist, period. This is all just legit advice. You need to hire a professional animation production manager, and like 3 professional 3D animators - like with literal 3D animation school accreditation and portfolios with industry experience. Not the first randos off the street. I think perhaps one of the biggest issues is there's been a constant stream of novice hobbyists that just get in the way more than anything. You spend more time fixing what they do than it'd probably take to just do it yourself - I'll get to them later. Hire local in your area, rent an office space, and physically go there. At first you'd perform the role of director, and you'd make the storyboard and script. Assign each animator to a particular scene of their own, you QC as they progress and give them the revisions they need to do - don't put it all on yourself fixing everything. Delegate, delegate, delegate. You get a professional studio set up like that and you could bang out a 30 minute high quality video (/flash animation loop) set in like 1-3 months tops. Not 5+ years. Eventually you'll probably want to hire a competent director, and writer if you want to not focus on these projects like a full time job yourself. Many people have said things along these lines for years. The bottom line is you need to take it seriously rather than still treating it like a random backburner hobby. It sounds expensive but in the end you're selling a product and if you're able to do a release every few months instead of half a decade or more overall you'll be making considerable bank. As for the novice hobbyists you've gathered - use them to largely pump out futa image sets like Seed of Rebirth, Flying High, Angel & Demon, etc. Maybe some minor animation loops sprinkled here and there. If they're still frames it's much more forgiving. You could probably release the sets on A3D too but have them "free" on the patreon as the reward.

Coyfish (edited)

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2026-09-05 13:00 Honestly, take your time. For those like myself who know nothing about animation, the time to show sync everything perfectly, VAs delivering their lines correctly, etc. I’m sure that once you come up with a perfect way to tackle this project, you’ll release it sooner than expected 😊👌🏾
2022-12-01 04:44

Anonymousb

It's refreshing to see someone who works for Miro show us just how poorly managed he is on the business side of things. Honestly, I don't think I'm the only one who isn't surprised. This absolutely feels like something that's been boiling up for far too long now. It's evident in the way Miro runs his business. It's evident in the way he makes post. It's more evident than ever in the dismissive way he responds to fans and patrons alike, this comment section especially. Kayla should run things. She has a far far better track record for transparency and keeping deadlines. Unfortunately, I doubt that will be enough given the way things have been going

Lee A Osborne

I personally love this type of artwork since it can stretch the imagination. I’m still hung up on the very beginning of the very first of this particular project. I do look forward to the explicit scenes that we will be seeing. However, we still need to understand the importance of Tristan. We already know his bride to be was a liar, and using him for her own ends. Now that she has been sexually enthralled by Celene, I have to question… was she in the actual target? Or was she an additional target after the first story…? I am one of those people that enjoys story beats that makes sense, believe me. I understand that you watch porn for the sex not the story but when you start a project with a solid story, you Gotta keep going with that hook. I look forward to the upcoming project.

MIOKO312

Looks very, very nice and interesting...hope we won't wait too long :)

Kyla

I'm speaking to what I know, I don't have much knowledge in other areas past Slushe (unrelated here) then how content usually gets done at least for Patreon and that already is quite hectic to say the least. I still want the best either way though damn it's frustrating as fuck seeing the same stuff happen constantly with little adjustments

IBT

Getting a "remaster" of G4E (plus DLC1&2) along with BL:C and BL:RD would be most welcome.

IBT

Calling Sophia a liar, using him for her own ends ... is a bit much. For one thing, Sophia told Tristan NOT TO GO (remember?). But Tristan felt like he HAD TO ... so he went to confront "the vampire" (who turned out to be Cerene) and everything went downhill from there. If Tristan had just taking Sophia's advice and "gone somewhere else, just the two of us" like she had suggested, abandoning Veridian to its fate ... none of the events we've seen after Sophia's bedroom would have played out like they have. That said, I certainly prefer to believe that Sophia is a (much!) more complex character than Tristan has demonstrated himself to be, thus far. At the bare minimum we know that she's a duchess with ambitions of becoming queen. That's hardly the resume of a simpleton.

IBT

> That's where the teaser comes in. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it. Given a choice … I *vastly* prefer this preview (23 Dec 2020): https://www.patreon.com/posts/bloodlust-wip-39-45320197 Although, that post does include this note buried in the comments: > Affect3D - miro > yeah, my focus on final polish now > lots of tweaking for the final cut > both parts are mostly sex of course :) > … just a clean cut between what happens Well, we (now!) know how well that plan turned out. Anyway, back to thoughts on the new video. The camera moves around the old Lanessa's Lair model really weren't doing it much if any favors. The speed of the camera and the depth of field conspired to make the Castle In The Snow look like a cheap plastic model on a table this time (unlike in the previous video posted in WIP 39 above). My primary objection to the original Lair exterior was that the exterior didn't match the interior of the audience chamber/throne room where all the action is supposed to be taking place (4 windows long outside, 8+ windows long inside). If that one continuity error could be fixed between exterior and interior, I would be quite happy with the original castle as Lanessa's Lair. The new Lair though … … … admit it miro, you're grossly overcompensating for SOMETHING with that … impossible implausibility. That new Lair exterior pretty much personifies the basic notion of "when too much is TOO MUCH!" My first thought (other than sheer disbelief) was that it needed to be THAT BIG to hold the rug you're trying to sweep all your excuses under for why BC:L isn't even anywhere close to being finished yet. The New Lair design is simply too UNPOSSIBLE to be believed, let alone taken seriously, in terms of scale. It's almost like you're DARING US to call your bluff on this point of ridiculousness, because that's not a Lair … that's a lame wannabe artist overcompensating for their insecurities. Given a choice between the two Lair designs, I *vastly* prefer the original Lair over this new "bad joke" of 3D stretched beyond the bounds of credulity. Yes, the gothic motif is executed wonderfully all over the exterior, but there's simply way too much of it and it's beyond stupidly too big for anyone. Plus it would take an entire CITY of servants to keep the place maintained so it wouldn't fall into ruins! It simply isn't practical … and no, it didn't pass the Laugh Test when I saw the scale of it. > That's where the teaser comes in. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it. Old Lair was decent, but could use some continuity tweaking. New Lair as presented is an insult to the intelligence of your audience. Old Lair good. New Lair … are you trolling us?

Ryupyroa

Hopefully Tristan keeps getting cucked like the beta twink he is. I only want to see him crying on the floor as Sophia declares her love for Cerene's vampy dick. Fuck Tristan.

JohnboyX

Yep if there was a mass exodus of Patrons right now I can guarantee you that Bloodcrown part 1 will be out in no time despite miro's ridiculous belief that the level of polish shown in the teaser has to be adopted for the whole movie 😑 . Dude as shown times and times again (see failed promises in past Bloodcrown updates) is a notorious liar, lacks empathy (notice how he still hasn't used the simple words "I'm sorry" in the opening post or any of his comments I read), is probably narcissistic, arrogant and lacks so much self awareness due to being a total perfectionist that he doesn't get that what we the supporters need is not a bombastic blockbuster like presentation (again everyone just watch the teaser and honestly tell me if that is a realistic goal) but rather him wraping up this whole mess of a project and finaaaaaly get it out of the door after 4 + years of waiting 😡 . By now I honestly believe that while reading our posts he simply has a good laugh 🤣 since so many stupid fools (myself included due to founders tier FOMO) still support his utter laziness with so much money every month that he can keep thinking about new methods that warrant more made up delays to screw us over so that the movie gets out in god knows how many years 🙄 . SCAM is the correct word here and sadly it works out for miro since he continues to get away with it 😔 .

Drucifer

Why not just release the 70% done product to the Patreon and just do your ongoing revision separately? Might give you some credibility back And that castle looks ridiculous... No architect would design that...sorry but kinda not sorry 😐

Alarak

I’m not as long winded as some other people on here but here it goes, Lanessa has always had that kind of edgy goth vibe going on which is great, but that castle looks more like something I would expect from the Warhammer 40k universe. The possibility with all the stuff you displayed being the dynamic lighting, and the water vapors coming off the ground looks really good . But overall the biggest focus of the trailer is that castle and it is way larger and more detailed then it needs to be in my opinion

IBT

That new lair for Lanessa isn't even pretending to make a head fake in the direction of reality, miro. As a demonstration of what new tools can do, it's impressive. As a demonstration of realism ... it implodes harder than your promises from 2 years ago.

Crazypoofs

Man... just give the project to someone who cares to actually, you know, work on it. The delays became inexcusable 3 years ago. you've lost my support until Blood Crown is released.

IBT

I'll lay down another marker for the reveal attached to this post. A lonely windswept castle on a mountainside surrounded by snow is a FAR MORE COMPELLING setting than an overdone gothic monstrosity in the rain (rain!) at the end of a miles long causeway over a dry moat. The former can remain "hidden" unless if you know exactly where to look, making it a far better lair for a vampire (who likes her privacy). The latter is so stupidly blood big that not even the curvature of the planetary terrain can hide it behind a horizon line. You have to use a canyon(!) and FOG to have any hope of concealing the monstrosity. Good luck keeping that place a "secret" from anyone.

IBT

From my perspective ... Tristan THOUGHT he wanted Sophia (and that she wanted him) ... but in reality he DESERVES to be with Cerene, because he's not "worthy" of Sophia (or Sophia's ambitions).

IBT

> Time for an in depth Blood Crown update. I'm going to go over: the status, the cause of the delays and what the future holds. miro, I'm going to characterize the IMPACT of what you actually wrote after that so you can better understand where you failed to communicate. Ready? "I take Full Responsibility™ for what has all too obviously NOT happened, but should have! Now, can we stop talking about it before I have to face any Accountability(!) for my past actions?" You're basically deploying the words "full responsibility" as a talisman shield ... against taking actual accountability. If that sounds disingenuous to you ... guess what? It sounds like "weasel words" to us too! I'm reminded of Ash "saying the words" before reaching to take the BOOK in Army of Darkness.

hoped1988

I love the graphic update and I have only one question! Will BC have any kind of expansion, size stealing or reductions?

Neo

Hey there, how are you guys doing? I know I’ve said that I wouldn’t return to this patreon page ever again but when I read the latest BC post (it was leaked on f95) I gladly pay $2 to witness this meltdown live. I’ve told you guys that this would happen, I’ve told you guys 2 years ago when I left! Who would have though? The house of cards finally collapsed and now even the most simple-minded people understand that they’ve been scammed this whole time. If only you guys would have listened sooner… That being said, I'm truly sorry for everyone that wanted BC to become and actual thing, I used to have the same dream a couple of years ago... I feel your pain! But hey, at least we got a nice video of Lanessa's Lair! After all we're all here for some beautiful Warhammer40k architecture right guys? RIGHT?!

Neo

Now onto my favorite Australian con man… @Miro How ya goin’? I was told that you’re finally taking “responsibility” for your actions, so I did the math and you owe me about 120 dollars. No worries though, being a subscriber did give me access to 3 nice image sets that cost $10 each so $90 will do. Can I send you my paypal-me address via private message or how is this going to work? Just kidding, at this point everybody and their mom knows that you ain’t the type to “take responsibility”. You know, when I left in late 2020 I thought you were an ice-cold scammer but I was wrong! This post proves once and for all that you’re not some well-trained, smooth criminal that knows what he’s doing! You are nothing but an incredibly delusional, lazy, weak minded, sloppy con man! All the lies, the false promises, the made up numbers (70% done in late 2020 yeah 4sure!) and all your contradicting post/comments have led to this one final post. You could have kept this whole charade up and running for another few years but for whatever reason you’ve decided to press the “self-destruction”-button. The fact that you actually thought that this post was ready to be shipped/released to your subscribers is mind boggling, it’s written proof for how incredibly delusional and disconnected from reality you are! You might not get this but by posting this update you’ve single-handedly doomed this patreon page! I’m already looking forward to the mass exodus that is about to take place. Reading your responses to angry supporters comments is truly strange, a sight to behold. YES the vast majority of people that subscribed to you over the last 4 years, were subscribed to you because of BloodCrown! You’ve received over $200.000 for BLOODCROWN! Many people have told you this over the years, me included but you wouldn’t listen because you are just way too delusional to get it. Just take a look at the “content” that has been release on this page over the last 3 years! Do you seriously believe that there are over 1500 people paying you on a monthly basis for half assed crap like “The Seed of rebirth” and “Flying High”? Look at what kind of “content” this patreon has been providing it’s supporters in 2022! Do you seriously believe that over 1500 people are paying you for random, low quality renders and animations done by other artists? NO! JUST NO! How can you not get that?! How can you even be surprised in the slightest about the reactions you’re currently getting? Read the comments, take a look at how many people leave this patreon in the coming days and weeks! Do you think that all these people are idiots who misread something or simply misunderstood you? You believe you’re the only one that get’s it while all the ones complaining are at fault because they failed to understand the purpose of this patreon. In reality however, the exact opposite is the case! You are a con man, a scammer as they say! You’ve scammed your subscribers for over 100.000, maybe even 200.000 dollars in the past 4 years! Meanwhile you sit at home in front of your PC feeling like you did nothing wrong… It’s truly fascinating what the human brain is cable of if it comes to brushing off/disregarding an uncomfortable truth. The internet’s surely a great place but sometimes I wish things like these could be settled in the real world. It’s always hilarious to watch scammers like you trying to explain themselves in front of real life people. Maybe you should just set up a discord server where your supporters get the chance to talk to you 1 on 1, wouldn’t that be a great idea?! Everyone gets the chance to give you a piece of their mind, this would honestly only be fair since no one’s getting their money back. Maybe that’s just me though. Me personally, I’d certainly enjoy the heck out of it. I don’t think you would though… but hey, I didn’t enjoy wasting $90 dollars and being lied to on multiple occasions and neither did the others you’ve scammed. Luckily for you, instantaneous justice doesn’t exist so I’ll have to wait. Worry not though, because at some point in my life a random smile will grace my face, I’ll feel great for no apparent reason and when that happens I’ll know that you got what you deserve. It was a pleasure talking to you 😊! In the meantime and as usual. Karma’s STILL a bitch!

Neo

He hasn't "forgotten" he's completely oblivious to it! He seriously believes that the majority of his subs are here for "masterpieces" like "The Seed of Rebirth" and random "mini animations". He's delusional beyond belief!

Neo

I can't believe that I'm typing this but I fully agree with this comment of yours!

SWW

Disgraceful.. no reason to support this con man any longer

mira

I don't think i can add too much on what has been already said, by my fellow friends. dear miro, if you ever read these comments, you must now realize the position you put us in, and how disappointed and angry we all are. but there is still away to fix this and try to keep what's remaining of your fans support. you should focus on bloodcrown and work hard to release it asap. keep the updates going and hope to god that some of us will stick around for the release. other than that there is not much to be done. and pretty much this patreon page will be doomed eventually.

Neo

Yep, that's where I got the info from!

Neo

I'm curious, do guys like you even read the update? Miro just said that there wasn't going to be any BC content any time soon and you're over here acting like he going to release it next month. Like what?!

Neo

Subscribers: "We are upset, disappointed and feel mistreated!" Miro: "I understand why you're upset and I take responsibility!" Subscribers: "That's great but what are you ACTUALLY going to DO about it?" Miro: "I understand why you're upset and I take responsibility!" Subscribers: "What?! But you've said that already!" Miro: "I understand why you're upset and I take responsibility!" Subscribers (hopefully): "Ah okay, I see how it is, bye bye Miro's patreon!"

Roch Alpha

You haven’t even created any original image sets yourself for the Patreon in how long? Almost all the image sets have been outsourced to other artists, and you just approve their work. How about you pause Patreon contributions until you’re ready to actually release some content that YOU personally create? Or are you too arrogant to do that as well?

Tamo321

Just release BC, or another Miro 3d porn animation.

Ryupyroa

Since most of us have dropped like $200 into this patreon, the least you could do is just drop all the animation progress you have on BC at this point, then spend the next two or eight years doing whatever touch ups you're working on. No one actually cares about the story at this point, a little evidence that something was actually being worked on would be nice. Every other 3D artist aside from Rikolo releases every piece of their progress as they work through it. That's why everyone vehemently defends everything Nyl2 or Rigid3d do.

Catyana

Muy bien alguien tenia que romper el hielo y poner las cosas claras

Rikyla

To say this news is a disappointment would be an understatement. However, to say this is surprising would also be untruthful. Ever since there was a big stoppage on updates from the original, and I mean, original WIPs of the same blowjob/boob job scene where Motion capture was being brought in for WIPs. to the more 'recent' updates of said same scene, it was pretty clear whatever steam this project had died. I had a much much longer comment that I was about to post but have decided against it. I rewrote and it was even longer again so I'm not going to bother. Others have shared similar thoughts and it's not worth putting in the effort and consideration for something that doesn't return it. if you are truly inspired to finally work on the project properly, that's good. Will people change their minds? Not until there is concrete evidence to suggest that it has turned the corner for the best. Like someone mentioned above about time management or what has consistently been brought up in comments regarding transparency, honesty and genuine updates on the project, unless this is worked on, the same issues will deter this new approach to the project. Time management and proper resource management is key to any project Could have asked the 1000+ subscribers about a new intro, opinions on how to release, or updated them about the project and it's failings much earlier than this as it's been clear for years now. Just refused to update us. ). If a first pass was truly done over two years ago, I think at this stage, it would actually be nice to see some of this work in upcoming WIP to confirm this. At this point, no one really cares about spoilers and it will actually be confirmation there is more to this. Because if not and you go the route of multiple animations released individually, no one will believe said animation was part of the original blood crown as there is no evidence to suggest that it was and that it was just created from scratch.

Neo

He can't release "every piece of his progress" because their most likely hasn't been any in years. People seem to forget that theirs very little evidence to suggest that Miro actually made any significant progress on BC over the last 3 years...

Neo

Reading this is just pure comedy, it's unbelievable how ridiculously bad Miro's management skills are and how out of touch he really is. @Kyla He should probably give you a shot! However do you actually believe that you'll be able to make him put the work in + hold him accountable?, because that's what would need to happen to fix this! Maybe you could actually do it! Managing your fathers Business must have taught you many useful skills, + all the experiences you've gathered along the way. That being said, I don't think anyone can fix Miro at this point, I mean he was always a trouble maker but thing just got completely out of hand during the past 3 years. Remember the Bloodlust Royal Descent debacle? Almost no one knows the real reason on why the "Q & A" took so long, or why many parts of Bloodlust RD seemed so rushed when it allegedly had been in production for so long + got tons of Q & A. Maybe it's time to tell this eventful story :)

Kyla

Never know, I could help him a lot in this area or zero, hard to say... yet we'd never have any idea unless it's put to the test and he comes into it with an open mind,.. I think more so having someone ride his ass on dates and getting content done will help in itself. Though even I have at this point way less hope in this area as I get shot down all the time, and I truly don't know why as he is always so vague if you'd get a response in the first place about certain questions.... One thing that might be it is how I can and do get bitchy when I see a problem that people are just ignoring or putting off till it becomes a far larger issue... that annoys me to no end, he's seen me be not so nice lets say.. however this was ALWAYS after attempts were done in other far more polite tones... I'd need to know more about what truly goes wrong every single year, I have a strong assumption that I do think is 100% right... He has his mind in the right place, gets to work with tons of motivation... over time this fades (like everyone) hits some tech problems or some shit in the scene just isn't happening, get's frustrated... takes some time off and puts that time into other areas of his company.... goes back to workin on it maybe looking over work from other people he's hired to help out... sees major issues... again lowering motivation.... Scene X isn't working in his head so he redoes it X amount of times...... now about 6-8 months in, he's getting tired of things not getting to the place he wants then more or less coasts with little time being put into the vids (lazy stages) I could be way off here though it would make shit load of sense as this pattern seems to happen every single year, like many things it contains many factors some I could list and others I'd probably not even know of that all contribute to him losing motivation or gaining it..... I'm pleased he finally admitted this, however.... in this case... far far sooner would have saved a ton of rep damage. End of the day can't attempt to help someone if they won't let you try, I very well could end up being a huge boon to him and major asset or if he gives me a shot I could be meh or not work out at all... both are possible though we'd never know unless he lets me..... Yet for now I'm just making images for you guys I find that reasonably fun though it's certainly not why I joined A3D.... the main reasons are... well not happening so that's yeah not great.

Kyla

Aye don't rag on my image stuff :D I do try though I'm not the best.... well at least the stuff I've helped make/done in full

Ryupyroa

I didn't forget anything. He claimed there was progress, I'm asking for evidence/content.

gogoplatter

Ending my support. If Miro can't be bothered to care about his subscribers, why should we support him? What a POS.

Neo

Reading this makes me sad. It seems like the majority of the Affect3d staff consists of nice, responsible, honest and hardworking people. The kind of people some1 like Miro simply doesn't deserve, just like he doesn't deserve all the money he got over the past 4 years. @Kyla We might disagree on whether or not Miro did all this with malicious intent in mind but that's okay. From what I can see you actually want this whole project to become an actual thing, just like I did a few years ago. Much respect for still mustering the faith to believe in it! I gave up on it years ago. You could definitely be right with your assumptions regarding what's going on behind the scenes but who knows, Miro is about as transparent and credible as the CIA. Whatever it is that caused all this to happen, it should have never ever gone this far! The project should have either been canceled 2-3 years ago or things should have been fixed. At this point I don't believe anyone can tell Miro anything because it seems like he lives in his own little world. The fact that he thinks "I can get lazy" is in any way shape or form an appropriate excuse for what he's done, or rather not done, shows that he's completely out of touch with reality. If this was a real-life job at a real company he would have been fired years ago. Imagine telling your superiors that you didn't finish any of your work because "you got lazy", that's just unthinkable! He seems to have this idea that people just gave him all this money and didn’t expect anything in return, that all the money he got came without any responsibilities. This way of thinking seems very childish and honestly almost autistic in a way. I’m not saying this to insult him it’s just that he seems so out of touch with reality, that at this point I feel like some kind of mental disorder has to be present.

Neo

This wasn't meant to be an insult to you or any other artist that participated in creating these image sets, in fact I'm friends with quite a few of them. However, these image sets are not even close to what Miro produced during his 2019 patreon period (Cypunk, Circle of Love etc.). That's not an insult that's just a fact. These sets aren't an issue by themselves. The issue is that over the period in which "The Seed of Rebirth", “Pure as Sin” and "Flying High" released this patreon page made over 100.000 dollars in revenue. There is simply no way, that anybody in this world believes these 3 images sets to be worth over 100.000 dollars! There are many artists out there that provide much higher quality image sets (+ an actual story line etc.) on a monthly and not a 1-2 image sets a year basis, while earning only a fraction of the money Miro’s patreon does. Same goes for the mini animations in blender, in 2022 there has been no content other than these blender clips. Once again this patreon easily made over 50.000 dollars this year alone, how are these clips worth 50.000 dollars?!?! There are countless hobby-3dx-animators out there that provide similar level clips for free and Miro feels like they are worth 50.000 dollars?! Ah hell no! I say it time and time again at least 85% of the money he got over the past 4 years was meant for BloodCrown! But here we are it’s the end of 2022 and Miro just admitted that this project isn’t even close to being done. So did his supporters in fact pay over 200.000 freaking US Dollars for 3 image sets (not even done by Miro and far worse in quality than the ones Miro produced himself), + about 20-30 mini blender animations clips also not done by Miro?! NO! Miro is about the only one that actually believes this to be true. Miro believes that all his subscribers payed him over 200.000 dollars, over the past few years for 3 image sets and 20-30 mini blender clips that he didn’t even make himself and that are far below what he could achieve in terms of skill and quality level. There is no way anybody in his right mind agrees with Miro, it’s utterly ridiculous!

Kyla

If I had thought it was on purpose him doing this I'd have quit A3D and blasted them, I don't deal with people whom operate in bad faith. It's more so he's still quite poor at communicating, then even worse when things aren't going well, so based on the history of that being a thing often, plus this post, I don't blame anyone for being hella mad

IBT

How can there be "spoilers" to sex scenes lacking in drama or a coherent plot? If you're just "making it up as you go" like building a scrapbook, there's nothing to spoiler. When there is no PLAN ... no VISION ... no CONTINUITY ... to defend, there isn't anything to spoiler. On the contrary, by now the "narrative" is that there is NOTHING DONE YET ... so any release of anything at all will be the "spoiler" to that narrative.

kc

I'll try to stay positive. Miro, you're still my top favorite futa artist of all time and I love your past works... but I just can't keep supporting you right now unless you can get your stuff together. I wish you the best of luck, and I look forward to supporting you again in maybe 10 years? Hopefully before George RR Martin finishes his books!

Aspyr

Been here since the start, but as Miro is talking about taking responsibility, we patrons also need to take a good look at ourselves in the mirror. We knew it was never happening and no one was forcing us to keep pledging - but we kept doing it. We kept feeding a model that was not what any of us really wanted. So for me at least I will take responsibility, stop complaining and end my pledge. This is my final month. I can always purchase content from the store, and if this patreon turns around then I can always come back. Goodbye and good luck all.

IBT

> Almost no one knows the real reason on why the "Q & A" took so long, or why many parts of Bloodlust RD seemed so rushed when it allegedly had been in production for so long + got tons of Q & A. As one of the people credited on BL:RD for Q&A (Dorio was another), I can tell you this much. What we were given didn't amount to a Q&A task. At best, we were asked for a rubber stamp. From my perspective (as Q&A), what we were tasked with amounted to a request for a fait accompli validation. Here's the finished scene. It's too late to change anything or make any corrections. Don't recommend any changes because they will take far too long to implement and the project is already delayed beyond belief as it is. At best, it was a request for "Ship It As Is? (Y/N)" … and that was the extent of the feedback requested. Needless to say, I had … opinions … about what I was given to review, which wasn't everything that got released (I only got bits and pieces). There were some pretty egregiously bad decisions made in the clips I was given (Cerene was too much of a sneering caricature villain making casually cutting remarks to Sophia that felt way inappropriate and jarring). Marie actually re-recorded some dialogue in reaction to my feedback to fix one of those bits so it wasn't as bad, but there was no schedule to correct the animation of Cerene's lips for that, so Marie had to get really creative to fix that one. Dorio suggested that Cerene lick her lips in anticipation of fucking a load of cum up Sophia's ass during the standing carry towards the end of that scene, which somehow managed to get implemented (thank you Dorio!). Point being that I didn't get a chance to review the entirety of BL:RD until *after* it had been published for release … and boy did I have a lot to say about that (sent privately to miro, Alice and Marie)! From my perspective, miro has a huge blind spot when it comes to creating scenes with a sense of continuity to them that advance a story as a goal or to create a narrative. He just wants to "do the sex" as if that's all that a release requires. The purpose of the sex scenes is simply to be "hot" and arousing, rather than to make sense in a larger context or to tell you anything about the characters involved. Basically, it's mainly about FUCKING … leaving any pretense of SEDUCTION as an afterthought. The problem with that approach is … fucking isn't that impactful, while seduction can be extremely impactful. A lot of 3DX artists try to make up for their lack of "seductive sensibilities" by reaching for extremes instead … such as 26RegionSFM or StudioFOW always steering as fast as possible towards brutalizing rape action in order to try and hold the interest of the audience. Contrast that with Animopron, General_Butch, Nyl, VGErotica and Wildeerstudio where how the characters FEEL about what is happening is as much (if not more!) on display than the actual sex act itself. With these artists (and Rikolo too, although this can vary with him) the scenes are about more than just sticking Poles In Holes. In other words, the Poles In Holes is the MEANS … not the ENDS … of the scene. Sadly, with miro, there is plenty of evidence that miro believes that putting Poles In Holes is the "be all, end all" of scenes in and of itself, with everything else being of secondary (or lower) importance and weight. It's all about the fucking, not about the seduction. This pattern emerges in basically all of the photosets and most of the animations released on this patreon to date. A3D-IS01: Love Bite = fucking, not seduction A3D-IS02: Your Ass Is Mine = fucking, not seduction A3D-IS03: Circle of Love = fucking, not seduction A3D-IS04: Cypunk = fucking, not seduction A3D-IS05: Love Thy Neighbor = fucking, but with some seduction A3D-IS06: Lady of the Tower = fucking, seduction is an afterthought A3D-IS07: Pure As Sin = fucking, not seduction A3D-IS08: Seed of Rebirth = fucking, not seduction A3D-IS09: Flying High = fucking, not seduction Think back to G4E. What made G4E so impossibly good (for its time)? Tara SEDUCES Sayako before the fucking begins. DLC1&2? Tara SEDUCES Sayako into additional sex acts! What makes the Kiss Scene in G4E, with Sayako getting erect from kissing and being kissed by Tara, so memorable even now? Duh … it was the seductive power of Tara doing sexy things to get Sayako so gloriously erect! Then you get into Bloodlust, which promised a STORY … and then failed to deliver that story. BL:C was … just fucking. Nobody makes any effort to SEDUCE anyone into sex, they just … do it. The sex scenes with Sophia feel … empty … because it's just fucking, it's not a seduction. The sex scenes with Cerene feel … similarly empty … because it's just fucking, there's no real attempt at seduction here. At best, Cerene is seducing Tristan with her honeyed words and sexy body, but that's as far as it goes. Cerene is flirting with Tristan, but at no point is he "flirting back" with her at any time. He just thinks that all he has to do is fuck her and she'll submit and surrender to him (like every other woman he's ever fucked?). Then you move into Royal Descent … and again, the story takes such a back seat as to not even be inside the vehicle. There are brief flashes of vestigial flirting and seduction going on between Cerene and Sophia (with Marie's voice and acting doing almost all of the heavy lifting here), but it's almost entirely one-sided. Mainly it's just more fucking … and more fucking … and more fucking … seemingly with little to no purpose other than … showing more fucking. And now, here we are … with Blood Crown: Lanessa promising what looks like … more fucking with almost no attempts at seduction again. I don't know about anyone else, but I for one would dearly love to see Sophia "make a go at" SEDUCING Cerene with sex, rather than just fucking Cerene like Tristan did. As to whether or not Sophia would be successful in such an attempt (or if unsuccessful, how close she might get to success or how tempted Cerene might be with the offer) … that's a different question … but if BC:L is just yet another bunch of sex positions from miro with no attempt at trying to be seductive about it (again!) then I think that's the point at which giving up on miro as a creator becomes a valid choice. For people who have been paying attention (and read this far), you'll note that I keep trying to push miro in the direction of being more seductive, rather than just fucking around like normal, with projects. For the Fan Service photoset, I was always approaching things from the angle of "you want to use this element to be suggestive and seductive, not just throw the clothes off and start fucking away" in order to raise that seductive element more towards primacy. I mean … think about it. Annette, the lead singer, spots the PILLAR OF CREATION starting to descend below the hemline of Sayako's skirt while Annette is up on stage singing to the crowd. Annette decides, while on stage, that she's got to get her hands (and mouth, and cleavage, and crotch) on that MONSTER that Sayako has between her legs. How does she do it? She SEDUCES Sayako into having sex with her (presumably in Annette's dressing room, privately, rather than up on stage, publicly in front of everyone). You can then have other members of the band find out that Annette is in the middle of "making a new conquest" (of Sayako), get curious … get an eyeful … and decide that they can't let Annette keep Sayako 'all to herself" (so to speak). After all, there's "enough of Sayako to go around" between ALL the band girls … right? So seeing Sayako having sex with Annette SEDUCES the rest of the band members into wanting to have sex with Sayako too … so the story of the photoset is about the satisfaction of those desires, not just about putting Poles In Holes. The sex is a means to an end … not the end in and of itself … making the sex act more "meaningful" beyond the confines of the sex act itself. And if it were me, I would end the Fan Service set with the girl band officially making Sayako their "#1 Fan" groupie that they want to keep having sex with (before and after shows!) going on into the future, so the events of Fan Service aren't just a One Night Stand kind of situation. Do I expect miro to do something like that with Fan Service? NO. Do I expect James or anyone else associated with miro to ask me to write an outline of scenes and events that could be followed to make any of that happen. HELL NO. Does that disappoint me? A little … but then, I never expected miro to want to take on board any of the feedback I've offered him over the past decade. The fact that he occasionally has accepted and implemented my feedback (from time to time) feels more like a fluke than something that can be relied upon or expected. At the very least, I don't start with anticipation that what I say will/must be appreciated.

Matt (edited)

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2026-09-05 13:00 @Miro Let me start by quoting a few very questionable remarks, recently made by you, in the comment section. “this patreon wasn't about gifting of Blood Crown, that makes no sense,”, “well we produced a lot of content and where BC is concerned, yes there's been a bad patch”, “If you're only here for the BC content then I understand why you're upset, but it's not all we do”. So first of all, who is “we”? “We” doesn’t produce “a lot of content”, that’s for sure! There’s content being produced and uploaded to this page, yes but it definitely is not “a lot” and it’s not done by Mr. “we”, it’s done by outside artists which are being played by you. So since BC content is “not all we do” let’s have a look at what “we”, or rather you guys did in the past 3 years shall we? After all this patreon “wasn’t about gifting of Blood Crown, thatmakes no sense” (I suppose you meant to say that this patreon wasn’t about giving us Bloodcrown). Starting from February 24th 2020 with “Pure as Sin P1” up until “CCTV fun with Cerene” released on November 26th 2022, just a few days ago, this results in a total timespan of 2 years and 10months “we” or rather “you” managed to produce the following content. 3 Image sets (Pure as sin, The seed of rebirth and flying high), made by outside artists. 2-3 Maya short animations, done by Miro. About 20-30 Blender mini animations made by outside artists. + a few random renders here and there. All this in a span of 2 years and 10 months, so almost 3 years. Calling this “a lot of content” is frankly preposterous! Compared to image set or full on comic releases from artists like Hold, WorldOfLeah or SquarePeg3D the 3 image sets released over the past 3 years don’t even stand a chance, they are hopelessly outclassed! Especially if you compare the timeframe in which they were made. In a similar timeframe WorldOfLeah managed to deliver over 25 comic sets (60-70 renders each) which are far superior in production quality. Then we have 2-3 Maya short animations, also really nothing to speak of. At last there are the 20-30 Blender mini animations, which admittedly at first sounds like a lot of great content. However, when you actually take a closer look you can see that the quality and length of those clips is a complete joke, you can get this quality from almost every random 3dx-twitter-hobby-animator nowadays. Look around, these kinds of animator’s spring up like mushrooms nowadays. I’ve now listed all the “content” that has been provided over the past 3 years and if you actually take a closer look at it, like I just did, you realize that it’s surprisingly little. Keep this in mind as I now respond to the first quote mentioned above. “this patreon wasn't about gifting of Blood Crown, that makes no sense,” Let me tell you what “makes no sense” Miro. According to https://graphtreon.com/creator/affect3d_miro +this patreon page has made around 150.000 maybe even close to or above 200.000 Dollars over the last 3 years. According to you, Miro, the owner and founder of this patreon page, this patreon page is “not about BloodCrown”, which coincidently means that this patreon page is about the content I listed in this post above. Therefore you, as the owner of this patreon page, have received over 150.000 Dollars for the following content. 3 Image sets (Pure as sin, The seed of rebirth and flying high), made by outside artists. 2-3 Maya short animations, done by Miro. About 20-30 Blender mini animations made by outside artists. + a few random renders here and there. You weren’t even involved in creating 90% of this content. So what you’re saying is that you indeed believe that this content was and is worth over 150.000 Dollars! You believe that your subscribers payed you over 150 large for a couple of mediocre image sets and a few blender clips! I’m sorry but you can’t be serious! Do you not understand of how much of a joke this is?! If you gave 50.000 Dollars so less than half to any quality 3dx artists, WorldOfLeah for example, he would have made you 30 image sets. Then you take the other 100.000 and give that to AgentRedGirl, Nyl, GuiltyK or to another talented 3dx animator and they would have delivered you BloodCrown in a year, maybe less. You however, took those 150.000 dollars and all you managed to do is a mere 3 image sets + a few blender clips. Did you pay 30k for each image set? Did you pay 2.000 for each blender clip? Where did all that money go? Oh, I think we all know where the majority of that money went… yeah in your pocket. I understand that these are serious accusations but please, explain to me what these 150.000 dollars where used for. Explain to me how the quality and quantity of content, released on this patreon page over the last 3 years, is in any reasonable relation to 150.000 Dollars. I’m very curious! Matt
2022-12-02 16:19

Rasmus

I thought the framework where Patreon was mainly original image sets was fine. I don't think of myself as an investor, just a supporter. The collaborations with other artists and the animation tests don't really interest me. I'm totally fine with Blood Crown being a separate production based at A3D and not Patreon. I think that makes perfect sense. I hope the revised banner image means the Fan Service set with your own Sayako may appear. I wasn't a fan [!] of The Dude's interpretation of her.

BigBlue

Although I like image sets I'm here for animations. If image sets were scratched in favor of animations I'd be cool with that.

GreyWolf

I've been following your work ever since I came across the "Girlfriend4ever" stuff and...to be honest...it is still my favorite of all your work. That said, your work, next to wildeer studio, is the most amazing and best work of adult animation I've seen so far. Hope you keep up this amazing work and if the gods are with me...hope to see a follow up on the 'girlfriends4ever' stuff. Take care...

GreyWolf

seriously dude. If you so concerned about this, just stop supporting him. According to your own elaboration he doesn't need your money anyway.

Rikyla

You know full well what I mean IBT when I mention spoilers. It's clearly in reference to what Miro himself has said multiple times over the last few years in relation to keeping scenes from being shown to keep the surprise when they appear in the full release. Spoilers in this sense is those scenes and not story related. Spoilers for some aren't just about story. Some may not want to see such scenes and wait until the official release and would classify them as spoilers. That's what I mean about dropping this approach and just show the WIPs of the scenes that were supposedly done in that first pass two ago. Of course, there would be nothing to spoil if nothing was done at all.

IBT

Yes, yes ... I know what you meant ... but ... What is there to "spoiler" with respect to BC:L at this point? For example ... Spoiler Alert! Sophia and Lanessa fuck Cerene! Film at 11 (past never)! I mean, at this point the only "Known Unknowns" about this are going to be questions of What Positions and for How Long those loops are supposed to last. Character Development? Who needs it (let alone, who expects it by now)? Subtle Mind Games? Kind of unlikely, given that it's just going to be a bunch of sex scenes. Frenemies Fucking The Night Away? Okay ... maybe ... but is that a spoiler? I mean, honestly ... at this stage, just about the only thing that would rise to the level of being a Spoiler (kinda sorta) would be learning that Sophia is going to "lean in" on Cerene's retort at the beginning of BL:RD of "That's no way to speak to your new Lover..." and have Sophia try to flip the script on Cerene and make a play for dominance (with Sophia's new third leg) in an attempt to make Cerene "submit" to Sophia. That could be dramatic. That would require some intelligent writing, superlative voice acting and really clear direction in order to bring that all together. Do I think that's going to happen? Oh HELL NO! So again ... what is there to "spoiler" in BC:L that we can't already expect at this point? And if your answer is "Plot Twist" ... that would require a plot to be in play for there to be a twist in it.

IBT

Funny you should mention Hold ... since I've been collaborating with Hold since Elf's Quest: Prequel. Hold has been doing some really inspiring (and SEDUCTIVE!) work. And for anyone who has been wondering if Hold has been "up to something" this past year ... the answer is YES (I know, I've been collaborating on it), although it's mostly in the realm of new tech and new tools to make production a LOT easier going forwards. Monster Tamers WILL RETURN and continue! Biggest difference between Hold's patreon and miro's patreon is that Hold only charges subscribers when there's a new release, the rest of the time subscriptions don't get charged every month ... miro just bills people every month whether there was something released or not. In this respect, at least ... Hold has way better business sense than miro does (in my opinion).

nobody333

547 Dollars (10 + 1.90 vat Dollars per Month, pledging since February 2019) in, I am canceling my pledge today. Never felt more being led on than right now. Thank you for this long overdue post. It finally convinced me to cancel. I came to affect3d for G4E a long time ago. I went to patreon for Blood Crown. You gave me next to nothing for my money in almost 4 years. I never asked for image sets or anything else. I wanted and I want fully fleshed out movies with seduction, not just fucking, like your "team" did in the image sets. TheDude3Dx carries the spirit of G4E till today. I pledge to him too. Money much better spent. I'm off now. Farewell NOT Goodbuy.

Neo

Jesus Christ! Over 500 dollars?! You got properly scammed my man! My condolences to you, I can't even imagine how disappointed and angry you must be. Fear not though, Miro will also answer to this comment of yours just to give you the same delusional BS response he gives everybody else that is complaining in the comment section about BloodCrown. He'll tell you that he never made any promises and that you didn't pay for BloodCrown, GF4E or any movies in general. You just misunderstood him and accidentally misread something. You've paid over 500 dollars for 3 image sets and a few Blender clips, congratulations, money well spent, at least according to Miro. If this wouldn't be so sad and infuriating I could almost laugh about it. @nobody333 feelsbadman

nobody333

Thank you for your reply Neo. I took my time (about an hour and a half) reading through a lot of the comments and the replies. At this point I don't expect or need answer from Miro at all. I took my cues form all of the above and just left. That being said, G4E was my doorway to affect3d, which opened up the whole world of animated porn to me. I carried and will carry that with me with every new 3D artist I encounter. For that experience alone, Miro has earned the money. I am deeply thankful to Miro for creating G4E and the 2 Blood Crowns. I was always hoping to get more of that. This post however made me realize that the next Blood Crown will not happen. Not on Patreon and not anywhere else. I work on development projects with overlapping departments on a technical and a logistical level. If that kind speech surfaces, it usually means "dead, but we're not quite comfortable announcing it yet". If it was only the post, I would have stayed. The dismissive answers Miro gave to a lot of comments here made my leave in the end. Just my 2 cents.

Neo

Thanks for your insightful response nobody333. I definitely agree with you, this project (BC) is dead. I'd even go as far to say that it has died quiet a few years ago but that's just my opinion. Thanks man, farewell!

SWW

over 2 years since any meaningful progress updates, and after stating part 1 as being 70% complete.. this guy shows us the outside of a castle.. LOL.. @Miro how delusional are you really? Stop giving this guy any more of your time, or comments, they will just be buried in a few weeks by outsourced SFM mini animations that look like they were made in 2018, or maybe some image sets by another artist you'd probably better off supporting anyway and who would actually appreciate your support.

Maxtor

I've taken some thought to assess what has transpired here in the past few days, and have come to a conclusion. At the end of the day, all that money spent adds up over time. Money and time are too precious a resource to waste. Until I personally see "inspiration" manifest into substantial truth, my wallet will be on a diet. I will continue to support you in my heart. Ill keep on eye on your progress from afar to see if things are going in the proper direction, and hopefully then ill come back when you have things better structured and on the right track. Best of luck, Maxtor

Tyler Durden

I'm done. This patreon was started to fund one artist with a vision. 2 years later we have an aimless studio of regression and excuses.

Dustinator

Too lazy to do work people paid for, but not honest enough to pause the patreon. Oh Miro, never change. Once he found a fixed source of income by opening the patreon and dangling the sequel in front of everyone, he lost any accountability. Rigid3D puts out higher quality animations in 3 months than this patreon has in four years. The world has moved on to better artists who aren't liars.

Dwarfy

Wow, really impressed by the looks of Lanessa's new lair. Lookin forward to what comes next !

Affect3D - miro

the patreon isn't for blood crown development, everyone has their preferences, nobody's forced to stay

Affect3D - miro

yes, in terms of bc content currently, but that's not all we've put out here

Affect3D - miro

a lot of content worked out great, like the image sets we put out over the years, some attempts in terms of blender animation were good, some not the best but were classified as tests

Affect3D - miro

you're free to move on to anyone who you prefer, TheDude3Dx is a great artist but if you're saying you didn't get any good content in all this time, I would personally disagree, I think the fact BC hasn't worked out thus far is obviously clouding people's opinion but yes, I don't want people to have expectations for BC

Affect3D - miro

thanks man, I will actually... just takes a little more time for some, I don't think I've ever been known for being fast and proactive, it's just that when I was taking my time with G4E, nobody was waiting on it yet :)

Affect3D - miro

working on a solution for both, we'll talk specifics when results roll in

Affect3D - miro

yes, Fan Service is something we're currently attempting to revive

Affect3D - miro

well originally the patreon was meant to be to large degree for BC, but shifted at some point since it was moving so slowly, which I have been communicating for sometime... but it appears I've been more clear with this particular update G4E and DLCs were created completely by myself, since Bloodcrown I've hired lots and lots of people to help with the production and spent many time the amount you came up with, everyone who produces or works for patreon content gets paid, except for single pose collabs like StevenCarson who basically create content for their patreon and happen to use our rigs One key issue, which I've been very open about is that I run too many projects, considering the amount of projects I run, I do well, but one or two projects always suffer and it's been BC for the last years. But if I'd lost interest in BC I would have stopped it a long time ago. Whilst the opposite is true, I do not want anyway to have expectations for it for now.

Affect3D - miro

I do care, don't have the best way of showing it, but nothing could be further from the truth

Affect3D - miro

yes, we had completed all animations in their basic form, at least 2 years ago, but my various attempts at not having to polish and redo everything myself didn't work out

Affect3D - miro

as I said all the basic animation was done 2 years ago, but it's not good enough to release, there's previz and then the first animation take, but the gap between that first animation take and final polish, what I would qualify as releasable, is too far... and that's an objective assessment

Affect3D - miro

we're working on picking up the image sets again, occasional small collabs we have more anims in the works, but approach needs improvement BC content is my personal focus

Affect3D - miro

one more personal insult and you're banned, the fact that BC hasn't work out so far isn't the same as conning people

Neo

@Miro You’ve said it yourself “I take responsibility”! How is it that you reply to critical comments with “nobody's forced to stay” then? That is the exact OPPOSITE of taking responsibility! Instead of taking responsibility yourself, you just blame it on your supporters. You just copy paste the same responses over and over again. This Matt guy just revealed that all you’ve put out in the last 3 years is a 3 image sets and a few blender clips but you still respond to critical comments with “but that's not all we've put out here”. You haven’t put even close to enough content out there, especially in 2022 to even coming close to justify such an answer. You can't be serious, all of this has to be one big joke!

Affect3D - miro

I'm going over scene by scene and post them here and then we can discuss

Affect3D - miro

I disagree, merely on the basis of size the first never made any sense, the new one actually houses the correct size interior

Affect3D - miro

it's not a great thing to say, but it is the correct and clear thing to say at this point in time

Neo

"conning people" AHAHAHAHA You've scammed over 150.000 dollars from thousands of people, if this occurred IRL you'd know what it means to have people "coming" at you. Go ahead and ban me, since it's the only way you seem to be able to respond to actual criticism. Good luck coping with all the guilt my dude, keep pretending that you've done nothing wrong. As I've said multiple times now, Karma does not care what you think, it will get you and I'll be very happy when it does :D Kind regards Neo

Affect3D - miro

a couple of mins for the intro is not too much time to spend on it, it's about as little time possible if you're going to introduce it at all... but we're still adding to the scene

Affect3D - miro

no, it's a previz + first animation take, the gap between first animation take and actual polished animation is night and day in this case... and it needs a bigger overhaul then just polish now the castle is beautiful, def the closest thing to what I wanted

Affect3D - miro

Sophia's seems to have moved on, but so far she seems to be an opportunist, and right now she's dealing with dick girl butterflies

Affect3D - miro

no, I def messed up, but I don't let setbacks deter me, eventually I always find a way

Affect3D - miro

Yes, I agree with what your saying, specifically the point about structured production output. I would say there's not one specific way though. In my opinion, artistic vision is hard to communicate unlike making burgers, which any 12 year old can do. But with the right inspiration and focus you will find the path that works for your project. When I created G4E there wasn't a single soul I could bounce tech ideas off of and 3D animation is a very technical field. There was one animator outside of Japan that I knew of but couldn't find, so had to piece things together for myself. Anyway, I think inspiration is key and the content will tell, when the inspiration is back where it belongs.

Affect3D - miro

yes, one of the key things that's in the works is image set content and for me personally BC

Affect3D - miro

I'm not going to complain about what you're saying, it make sense, except for the lying part but anyway the point is, this helps me get inspired

Affect3D - miro

I never denied that BC was the original purpose and that that's what most want, but when BC stalled content shifted... well it actually itself (image sets) became a distraction and then I managed to veer of the image set distraction and got distracted by something else... anyway I just put it out there so everyone's clear on what's going on

Affect3D - miro

I'm not going to stop you, if that's how you feel hope you have a reason to change your mind in the future

Affect3D - miro

true that... a lot of that is basically my todo list you've been a strong supporter

Affect3D - miro

to your questions 1. the plan is currently free to patreons based on length of stay, but let's start completing scenes and parts first 2. yes, the new intro is the new development strategy 3. well, couldn't find anyone else so far, for many reasons, but I think fidelity's the defining factor now and that's difficult to find/ communicate 4. right now it would be another distraction, but I have thought of how we could do something in that vein, ask me again when the project has picked up steam >In other words, don't expect any BC content. I think this comment has caused the most confusion/anger. I don't mind the decision to change the release of BC, but perhaps the word choice was a little off putting. Either way, I'd love to see more BC content no matter how it's released. I think it's best to lower expectations for now

Affect3D - miro

check again, I've taken the time to respond to everyone in a personalized message, for the precise reason of making to sure to address everyone's individual concerns

GreyWolf

Better to take your time than to rough things up. Thrilled to hear that you're thinking/working on a follow op for G4E. Looking forward for it already. Well, kind of always looking forward for any release you make. All the best...

Affect3D - miro

@Matt trust me, answering your questions is not a comfortable experience in fact I'm having a hard time parsing a question that I didn't respond to you are asking about 150k again? I already explained this is a fraction of what we've spent on production and patreon content, this patreon is part of a business with 20+ staff and contractors, hopefully that clarifies

IBT

In that case ... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Barely anyone expects you to release any part of BC:L (at all) at this point. Quite the fine Anti-Marketing campaign you've got going on here. > I think this comment has caused the most confusion/anger. Yeah ... there you go, Sherlock. Or as I like to tell people ... "I'm not real good with Cause & Effect. Why is that?"

IBT

So ... mea culpa ... but please don't blame me?

IBT

Uh, miro ... you said that a YEAR AGO and have next to nothing to show for it.

IBT

I agree. Sophia is far more interesting (as a character and a sex partner) if she's an intelligent opportunist at heart, rather than some some kind of multi-dimensional chess player where everything is going according to plan. That way, Sophia can be ambitious (wants to be queen!) and opportunistic at the same time. So long as Tristan was going to make Sophia queen, she was content to be his lover. If someone ELSE is going to be king ... she'll become their lover! There's a kind of fearful symmetry to that kind of thinking combined with feminine wiles.

IBT

Feeling's mutual then.

IBT

If that new lair preview is what you originally wanted ... you're DEFINITELY COMPENSATING for something, miro.

IBT

miro ... dude ... you're delusions of grandeur are leaking ...

IBT

I can't ... I can't even ... There is not enough FACEPALM memes on the internet to respond to what you just said.

IBT

So ... mea culpa ... but don't blame me for anything. For someone who only accepts praise and rejects criticism, I'm sure you worked very hard to formulate what you did say in order to speak from the bottom of your heart and level with your fans.

IBT

Maybe not ... but what you've (NOT) done for the past 2 years was entirely predictable, miro. The only delay was in waiting for you to admit it.

IBT

miro, it's one thing to SAY that BC is your focus ... but it's another thing to actually DEMONSTRATE the truth of that. "Actions lie louder than words" ... and all that jazz.

IBT

You have already passed ONE of the Points Of No Return ... the one where people will unquestioningly believe in what you say and accept it as gospel from on high. You HAD that, but it's gone now. I personally would recommend that you not pass any of the upcoming Points Of No Return ... one of which involves people deciding to make you a(n unwilling) Pirate Prince, where the only price people are willing to pay for your work product is the "cost" to pirate it. As you can see from the contents of this thread, some of your patreons are already past this point of no return(!) and more are joining them ... with good reason. People like myself and plenty of others in this patreon have been trying to steer you away from the course to ruin and destruction you've been on. We keep getting rebuffed and dismissed. The first step to solving a problem is admitting you HAVE a problem. There's no shame in admitting that you need HELP in solving a problem, once you've admitted to it. But there is shame in not moving towards a solution to a problem, no matter how much help and advice you're given. You're not the only game in town anymore, miro. There are alternatives.

IBT

So ... the basic animation was done 2 years ago ... and then it just sat in a hard drive somewhere, unloved, for the last 2 years? What does that tell us about the person/people responsible for that state of affairs? Or is it the case that NO ONE is responsible for that being the case?

IBT

Owning up to errors in judgement are rarely a comfortable experience, miro. If they were, more people would be doing them more often. The problem is that pure sycophancy won't help you either. We could (reflexively) praise every thing you do to the high heavens, with nary a negative comment or sentiment to be found ... but doing that wouldn't help make you a better artist, a better content creator, or even a better person. You NEED both the positive and the negative to grow ... as an artist and as a person. DO THIS is just as important to learn from as DON'T DO THAT.

IBT

miro, you're still Not Getting It™. People were supporting you for BC:L. You've been giving them something other than BC:L and thinking (and acting) like what you were giving people is some kind of "fair swap/trade" for what they actually wanted (BC:L). It's kind of like wanting to get a new game as a present, but instead getting ... clothes ... as your present. Sure, the clothes might have "cost just as much" to buy as the game you wanted, so in purely monetary terms the two are financially equivalent ... but the clothes aren't what you WANTED. You wanted the GAME you were expecting to get, not some "replacement" that you didn't ask for (and didn't want in the first place). Expectations were set that this patreon was for support of the effort to produce BC:L. That effort has FAILED ... for years now ... to deliver on that expectation. Substitutions and/or compensation (in the form of unrelated photosets) aren't going to replace the desire for BC:L. If anything, they are being seen (rightly, as you've confirmed) as OBSTACLES to the production and release of BC:L. At best, the photosets and animations amount to "consolation prizes" for miro failing to deliver on expectations to produce and release BC:L (let alone make significant progress on it in the last 2 years!). That's because they're NOT REPLACEMENTS ... they're DISTRACTIONS. As soon as you stop pretending/fooling yourself into believing that content other than BC:L is what people are actually here for, the better off you'll be (and the happier we'll be with you).

Neo

@IBT careful there with those facts boi, you might get yourself banned. 🤣

Neo

@IBT I'm having lot's of fun over here but you seem like you're actually trying to help him. Listen, you might wanna reconsider who to help/support because at this point I feel like your aid is not being appreciated. Since you brought up Hold, yep he's a some1 that appreciated his supporters + support in general, there are so many artists out there who do, don't waste your precious efforts on Miro. Do it like me. have some fun reading/writing comments and leave at the end of the month, this sinking ship ain't worth the headaches. Peace Neo

hoped1988

Sounds fair. I see you get a lot of hate here and there I can understand some disappointments too, but a lot of them are to hard. On my POV ;) i can understand your creativity process, it's hard to be satisfied with his own work especially if new content and graphic updates get released etc. I'm pretty sure you found your setup now and you can start with what you want to show us all the time! I can still wait, being an artist is harder then ever nowadays.

mira

Guys, everyone has made their point. i think that there is no point in arguing anymore. granted, all of us are disappointed but now the important thing is the end result. dear miro, i know that you said that BC is your main focus now. but all of us just need some proof. we need some validation of our sapport to you for the past years. be it an incomplete release of your work or any real update. im telling you that most of us will be thankful for it. the past is the past.

Crazypoofs

People have created actual films with less time and money than you've been given. You care about continuing to receive money, not the project these people paid for.

Crazypoofs

He did predict exactly what you failed to do. Hes more a prophet than you are an animator at this point.

Crazypoofs

It is when you start a patreon as "creator of blood crown" and continue to promise a product you fail to make. Neo is correct. you made your bed now sleep in it.

Crazypoofs

seems like you haven't taken your patrons seriously for a long time.

Crazypoofs

I'm sure finding a way to show it that is acceptable to your supporters would go a long way. But you gotta understand how many bridges you've burned with your negligence.

Crazypoofs

This patreon was built on BC. Read the comments.

Crazypoofs

What would go a long way towards assuaging everyone's concerns would be pausing support and taking that large pile of money these people have given you for a product and... you know... finishing the product. You don't deserve any more money until you give people what they paid for. And despite your denial these people have paid for that many times over.

Crazypoofs

Roch is correct. Miro needs to bite the bullet and finish BCL before he takes any more money from these people.

Crazypoofs

Sure the castle looks like it came from 40k. But who cares? This is porn. The only setting that matters is the rooms where sex happens.

Affect3D - miro

if you don't like the content, why don't you stop your pledge?

Rikyla

Understood but it would be nice to start seeing these as upcoming WIPs to go with the new stuff you are doing with the tech/intro etc, even if they are no longer representative of what they may eventually become.

Affect3D - miro

the version I mentioned is not releasable, it would take time to get it prepared and rendered, but the animation itself isn't up to par, it lacks fidelity and variation, that's why I need to go in and polish first but to your point about BC content, so I'll post another update on BC this month to go into detail about what's in the works, but in short: I'm going scene by scene, I'm finalizing the intro first, then we get to the first character scene where Lanessa and Sophia enter Lanessa's Lair and engage with Cerene, so we'll get a visual of the updated interior next

Affect3D - miro

right, but things evolve, the content shift has been obvious, the slow BC progress has been obvious and I've been explaining the shift for a long time now, everyone's an adult here, there's nobody forcing anyone to stay here if they don't agree with that shift

Affect3D - miro

I think most will understand my explanation I don't have an issue with critisim as you can see, but I will ban those who use personal insults, that's a no brainer

Affect3D - miro

this is pointless, but I am trying what I think is a better approach, I'm polishing scene by scene starting with the intro and posting the results here as I go

Affect3D - miro

the posting a scene by scene approach is the best I can think of, let me know if you have a better idea though

Affect3D - miro

as I said, we tried various attempts around me having to polish everything myself since that would have speed up production, but yes, I also got distracted and lazy at various points in time and I take responsibility

Crazypoofs

I have. And I've enjoyed your videos since G4E. You just aren't making any anymore.

Affect3D - miro

yes, many have cared about the project, but I mean, in terms of completing it of course... anyone else who can do it or would?

Affect3D - miro

you blaming Lanessa for wanting something a little more roomy?

Crazypoofs

Problem is Miro is a creator and is woefully incompetent at the skills actually necessary to run a project with a team. At the end of the day a Patreon page is a business and Miro should NOT be in charge of it.

Crazypoofs

You think he understood that highly coded message?

Crazypoofs

You don't think anyone else could possibly finish this porn animation? You dont think thousands of animators out there could have done it for the vast amounts of money and time you have recieved? Stop trying to justify your inept management. Take your lumps and either respond with promised product or show these people why they should leave.

Crazypoofs

Yeah... but... who cares? This is PORN not a feature film.

Rikyla

Fair enough. Guess I'll wait for the next updates then. Cheers for the responses.

Crazypoofs

What the post should have said "Hey everyone. Sorry I haven't been getting any work done. That's my fault and in response i will not be collecting any money from you for the next 8-12 months. I hope this will help make up for my mistakes." Followed by some sort of schedule for release.

Dustinator

Oh Miro, you have demonstrated zero integrity, zero accountability, and zero respect for your patrons. Miro: Am I out of touch? No, it's the patrons who are wrong. Just pause the patreon until you remedy your laziness and actually get to work. Or change all tiers to "founders" pricing so you're not pressuring people to stay sheerly out of scarcity of discounts.

Affect3D - miro

wait you started with the size reference and then I can't dispel your size logic?

Affect3D - miro

what? who? name me one person and their price... ball is in your corner

Dustinator

"I've taken the time to respond to everyone with a personalized message, but continue to milk the monthly subscriptions without producing anything of substance because I have no integrity."

Crazypoofs

The truly astonishing thing is that this exact conversation has happened before. The only difference is the posts starting them then were 100% bullshit instead of just 80%. check out the comments from back when he was failing to post updates over at Affect3d.

Crazypoofs

$150k over 4 years? Come on man. You can't be so arrogant and delusional as to think you're the only one who could make a 20 minute porn video for that. I know the knee jerk response is "no one else could complete MY ART" but that just isnt true. you have become the George Martin of porn. Congrats I guess?

Crazypoofs

The only way most of these people are coming back is for BC release. And not to resubscribe. To purchase and leave (most will likely pirate instead and I don't blame them as they have paid far more than the release price will be) the only chance you have is a work schedule with a release date. If you cant stick to a work schedule then just tell the people it's never happening.

Crazypoofs

You do realize that once you start a patreon these people stop being supporters giving donations and become customers paying a subscription for a product right? You have collected their money but not presented product. YOU OWE YOUR PATRONS BC:L. There is no other way to look at it. Most people here have paid more than the release price of the product they are asking for. People paid for a product and you didn't deliver. If your comments here are any indicator you dont seem to have any intentions of making it right either. Seeing as making right will hurt your bank account.

main page

bigdaddy here ... Looks like lord of the rings ... ha ha ...

Crazypoofs

"For the purpose of Patreon content, consider the content we started the page for only as bonus material.".... ummm... no...

Crazypoofs

Lord of the Rings took 8 years to make a 9 hour epic. Miro has taken 5 years to not finish a 20 minute porn video.

generic genetics

Yeah, don't recall an announcement about it going live is all. Admittedly I haven't actually checked the player version in one hell of a long time, I usually just stick to the mp4 version for simplicity's sake. I'll have to check it out when I have the chance.

IBT

Consider this the last ditch effort (out of too many to count!) to help miro. As for not being appreciated ... miro has been pretty consistent about that for a long time now. And for what it's worth, I enjoy my interactions with Hold FAR MORE than I do with miro. Hold actually listens, learns and cooperates. miro ... well ... least said, soonest mended and all that ... At the very least, it hasn't been for want of trying on my part (with miro).

IBT

You know, miro ... I honestly WANT to believe you. I really do. However, at this point it's going to require something more ... (digitally) "tangible" ... than a promise to simply do better. Why? Because we've heard it before (and you didn't get better, as promised). Let's just say you've already reached a tipping point and what you're willing to share here in December 2022 is going to be ... decisive.

IBT

{ excessively patient glare }

IBT

{ excessively patient glare }

Affect3D - miro

you're wrong, since the very beginning the actual BC release was never included with this patreon only BC wips and it was never advertised that way

Affect3D - miro

@Dustinator your interpretation is wrong, what exactly am I blaming patrons for? even though BC made very slow progress, we never stopped producing content, if we did, of course I would pause the patreon I'm not pressuring anyone to stay, how on earth can I pressure people to stay, that makes no sense

Affect3D - miro

you're confusing slow progress on BC with no content overall, that's not the case

Affect3D - miro

the original purpose was for BC wips not actual BC content and I'm clarifying that these should be considered bonus material

Ryupyroa

I didn't ask if it was polished or up to some "standard". No one cares anymore. I'm telling you how to slightly unfuck this situation. Render everything you have and release it.

IBT

You say that NOW, miro ... in an attempt to retroactively justify your actions and attitude. However, that is NOT the understanding of your patreons, so there's a really serious mismatch going on (and you're quite literally the "thousand to one" odd man out on this point). We're (still) here for Blood Crown ... wips AND content. Anything unrelated to Blood Crown is a distraction away from Blood Crown, because your time and attention span are not infinite resources.

IBT

When you go to the butcher shop counter, expecting to get beef ... you don't expect them to load you up with veggies instead and then have the butcher tell you off for having the mistaken idea that you were supposed to be getting MEAT from the butcher, rather than anything BUT meat. Yes, there has been "other content" provided over time, some of it quite good (Love Bite, Circle of Love, Lady of the Tower, Love Thy Neighbor, etc.) ... but that "other content" does not REPLACE the desire for Blood Crown. It doesn't even substitute for it. We're still waiting for that realization to sink in for you, miro.

IBT

"It's hard to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair

IBT

miro, you're splitting hairs so fine that even if you "win" that argument, no one is going to accept the outcome of it (aside from yourself). You've dug a deep enough hole for yourself. Please stop digging. PLEASE.

IBT

miro ... you've lost the Benefit Of The Doubt. And who are these "most" you refer to. The people who haven't commented saying they're leaving? The "silent majority" ...?

Dustinator

I'm sorry man, at least the grift is finally over. Let's jump like rats from a sinking ship.

Dustinator

"there only one who cares about it... is me" LOL. We would never know given the absolute paucity of any content.

Dustinator

It's not confusion if you falsely advertised it as such. You just lied man.

Dustinator

To anyone confused about this, the reason why Miro continues to bring in roughly the same amount of money each month despite providing small quantities of low quality content is due to the "Founders Tier" being an arbitrarily scarce resource in the form of a discount. If you're looking at paying 100% more for the non-founders tiers vs the discount of the founders tiers, you're going to be motivated to hold on to the founders tier even if there is little content because of loss aversion. If you discontinue your founders tier subscription, you might not get it back if someone else joins the tier and the cap is reached. Hence a baked in minimum number of patrons are holding on to their memberships. Everyone has to realize that these discounts aren't worth it. $5, $10, really anything more than $1 a month is way too much to justify the quality of this patreon and the absolute contempt its creator has for its patrons. If Miro cared about anything other than grifting, he would knock all tiers down to the founders pricing so that people could pause on months when he produces little and come back as they saw fit. The founders tier is just a tactic to make people scared to leave and lose their discount. Until there is a change in the subscriber base, Miro will continue to provide us with subpar work.

Crazypoofs

Thing is... it doesnt even matter if you're right. Patreon is a business and a thousand people are dissatisfied with your lack of product. It doesnt matter if you never said BC was part of the patreon because regradless of that that's why people subbed and supported you. For your main series content.

Crazypoofs

Miro... you're in the wrong here and people are telling you how to fix it. Either do it or just shut up and take the anger you've built up here.

Crazypoofs

Calling your progress slow is such a stretch that it borders on dishonesty. That's assuming any work has actually been done.

Crazypoofs

You're the only one who considers BC bonus material.

Crazypoofs

The cover up is always worse than the lie.

Crazypoofs

If this behavior was going on in any other business Miro would have been sued already.

Maxtor

Since Hongfire my friend! :) Once you get back on track I have no problem coming back! <3

Affect3D - miro

@IBT no splitting hair, the situation is very clear @Crazypoofs don't pretend to speak for anyone else I'm not denying the problems that do exist and I am working on resolving them

Affect3D - miro

that wip situation has always been the case, and yes with the 'bonus' tag I'm making it even more clear

Affect3D - miro

well let me put it this way if you don't think the content we put out is even worth the half price $5 a month, then why are you subscribing? and no, I don't plan on providing subpar work, I'm directly working on updates

Affect3D - miro

Hi, James here. I'm not trying to wade in on a debate here however saying that we "produce little" and therefore need to reduce all the tiers to near-nothing simply isn't true or realistic. There is a team working behind the work that we post weekly. We have image sets and animations. These are complex and in my opinion high quality overall. They are the fruit of work with talented animators and artists, and it is unfair to discard their work - work Miro also has a vital role in as artistic Director and artist himself. Again, the BC content is bonus as Miro said. OF course, you are frustrated, with its progress and that is understandable. But the work this team (myself included) provide isn't "little". And no, the founders tier isn't the backbone of this Patreon. Again, I get your frustration, but please keep this in mind when talking about the content produced here. James

Rasmus

I forgot to add that I did like the supplemental animations for the image sets. I can put them into the set and they mesh well into the futanari psychological experience. But I got the sense they were a distraction, or maybe just too much work.

Crazypoofs

Words are not actions and there have been no actions. Should have led with something that mattered Miro. Not by insulting your audience.

Crazypoofs

That's what you arent getting. That's why people are mad. That isnt what they want. They want a completed BC project in a timely manner. And another year (which I'm hoping isnt the case) is nowhere near a timely manner.

Crazypoofs

Perhaps you can shine some actual like on the state of affairs then. That appears to be the big issue here. A huge divide between what Miro thinks we should have and what we were supporting him for. And I think you'll find from the comments that the work is in fact not enough to justify the cost.

Crazypoofs

Seems like from the comments the only thing that will rectify the situation is some sort of main series release (even if its just a part 1 of 2 or 3) followed by consistent (monthly at least) updates that show reasonable progress. All trust and good will Miro had is gone and for good reason. the only response that needs be made to any of this behavior regardless of any wordplay to defend it is "Four years."

Dustinator

Respectfully, the quality of your work is stuck in 2018 for an operation of your size. There are countless artists out there that have higher quality work that are working on their own. Nyl2, Rigid3D, Wyerframez, WeebUVR, Noname55, Urbanator, Yeero. The list goes on. The quality of your animations as a whole have gotten worse, and you are a fraction as prolific in the amount your produce compared to any number of these artists. Worse than that, all of the sexuality has been bled out of the animations, and all that is left is animatronic, mechanistic thrusting. The content is uninspired, repetitive, and while you may be able to add more bounces in cycles, the characters themselves are lifeless. The whole reason this patreon was launched was a reimagining of the Affect3D forums which were largely dedicated to following Miro as he developed his feature length projects. That whole group came over here and started supporting him with patreon subscriptions, only to get half-hearted loops and alpha-tier animations, with no progress to speak of regarding the main reason everyone subscribed after the Royal Descent release: Blood Crown. You are arguing in bad faith and taking an ahistoric view of things to suggest that Blood Crown was anything other than the main reason that people subscribed.

Rasmus

Also, I haven't read through all 270+ comments here, so maybe it has come up. I do understand that there are people for whom this started out as a kickstarter for the next animated feature. But that's not at all what it was for me. My Affect3D account has more than 360 purchases on it. More than half of it is stuff I'll never view/download again (it would be nice if there were a way to hide/unhide old purchases) -- I know there are ways to find most of it for free, but I want to support the artists. There are some artists I do like who are very prolific and after buying a few sets on A3D I switched to Patreon to save money on their back catalogues. So one of the main purposes of Patreon for a lot of artists is not as a kickstarter, but rather to undercut piracy and give fans a way to get access to their back catalogue without paying too much. Miro's Patreon does that for the image sets, and includes an added bonus you can't buy on Affect 3D, as far as I know (I could be wrong), the bonus animations for the image sets.

IBT

The situation is "very clear" ...? Is that why you've been repeatedly contradicting yourself in the comments to this posting and only have the support of the most sycophantic types on your side? REALLY?

IBT (edited)

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2026-10-07 10:00 &gt; Worse than that, all of the sexuality has been bled out of the animations, and all that is left is animatronic, mechanistic thrusting. The content is uninspired, repetitive, and while you may be able to add more bounces in cycles, the characters themselves are lifeless. Quoted For TRVTH. I expect lifeless, uninspired, repetitive mechanistic thrusting from 26RegionSFM, Jared999, PuppetMaster (now), StudioFOW and some others (who I will decline to name drop) ... not from miro. If there's no attempt at *SEDUCTION* going on ... all you're doing is Just Fucking™. It's just Porn By Numbers ... and it's both uninspiring and far too plentiful in availability to waste time on watching something that pointless and lacking in purpose.
2022-12-06 14:01 > Worse than that, all of the sexuality has been bled out of the animations, and all that is left is animatronic, mechanistic thrusting. The content is uninspired, repetitive, and while you may be able to add more bounces in cycles, the characters themselves are lifeless. Quoted For TRVTH. I expect lifeless, uninspired, repetitive mechanistic thrusting from 26RegionSFM, Jared999, PuppetMaster (now), StudioFOW and some others (who I will decline to name drop) ... not from miro. If there's no attempt at *SEDUCTION* going on ... all you're doing is Just Fucking™. It's just Porn By Numbers ... and it's both uninspiring and far too plentiful in availability to waste time on watching something that pointless and lacking in purpose.

> Worse than that, all of the sexuality has been bled out of the animations, and all that is left is animatronic, mechanistic thrusting. The content is uninspired, repetitive, and while you may be able to add more bounces in cycles, the characters themselves are lifeless. Quoted For TRVTH. I expect lifeless, uninspired, repetitive mechanistic thrusting from 26RegionSFM, Jared999, PuppetMaster (now), StudioFOW and some others (who I will decline to name drop) ... not from miro. If there's no attempt at *SEDUCTION* going on ... all you're doing is Just Fucking™. It's just Porn By Numbers ... and it's both uninspiring and far too plentiful in availability to waste time on watching something that pointless and lacking in purpose.

Affect3D - miro

Please remain polite in your comments. Again, as Miro said, no one is forcing you to stay. James

Affect3D - miro

This is your opinion IBT. Probably that of some others too. But we don't believe what you describe to be the case. Opinion is subjective. James

IBT

James. If you (and by extension, anyone/everyone you collaborate with) believe that Just Fucking™ is ALL YOU NEED and more than enough to carry your 3DX ... then my work here is done. You're too far gone. Until you realize, admit and change the errors of your ways ... you're just going to keep plowing the same rut, over and over again, thinking that everything is awesome. miro has repeatedly said in the comments to this post that there's nothing keeping us here. What he also failed to mention is that there is precious little compelling us to stay, either ...

Affect3D - miro

You're either misunderstanding or ignoring what I'm saying - again re the original statement about content - what you said is your opinion - which you of course have a right to and we welcome but it is your opinion and doesn't reflect the entirety of Patrons or ours at A3D. As explained quite a few times now, especially in this latest post, this Patreon isn't just about BC. So there is plenty of content we product hoping you will stay. But no, there is nothing "compelling" you to stay because we don't want to or even can force anyone to stay. If you don't like our content anymore, then it would be perfectly understandable if you left but if you're going to stay, things are now clear. Simply repeating the same complaints over and over isn't going to change anything. We produce content we put a lot of work into. So please don't suggest we don't. James

Dustinator

Clearly the effort is spent in vain.

Futa Lord

That's what a storyboard & script are for. If you describe in in detail in the script what happens and what the characters are doing and in the storyboard show the basic scene layouts then it really becomes quite simple, provided you have reliable artists. That's what I'm telling you - you don't specifically need pre-existing CGX artists that you know of. You can, and should, hire professional animators. Truth be told, when it comes to porn inspiration isn't terribly important beyond an initial concept. For most other kinds of stories and creative works, sure. But when it comes to porn the bulk of it is just transitioning from one hot position to another and some dirty talk. The story aspect draws people in and gets them immersed but you only really need a little bit at the beginning. And for a title with pre-established lore you don't even really need that. You can zoom the camera right in to some lewd action with a bit of dirty talk and everyone's already onboard. If you need more than that then honestly I think you're making a movie production with the porn as a secondary concern.