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Christianity wound up branching away from Judaism, but what led them to grow apart?

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Robbie the Gnome

It amuses me how early the Early Christian Schisms was put out

Timothy McLean

So, we're starting with the Christianity-Judaism schism? Not what I'd expect, but I agree that it's a good choice. I'm interested to hear how this came about, actually. I can think of a few teachings in the New Testament which clash with what I know of Jewish teachings, but nothing which I see as being worth making Christianity considered a whole new religion rather than a popular new sect. But then again, I've always considered the divisions between "faiths," "sects," "churches," etc, to be arbitrary and often minor...

ExtraCredits

I just wanted to do art previews again! I used to do that when we first started this series, and I missed them. Although Patreon doesn't seem to want me to post more than one screenshot at a time, which is a bummer since my alternative is to spam you all (I'd rather not).

Robbie the Gnome

Yeah I'd love to see several screen shots at a time and a review. Maybe one a day leading up to the release? That wouldn't be bad.

ExtraCredits

This series is definitely gonna start off in an unexpected place, I'll tell you that much.

ExtraCredits

Well, you and I chat all the time, so I think you wouldn't mind having an email a day from me, but I'm not sure if the average patron wants to hear from me 3-4 times every week. I might bug Patreon though, to see if they're working on tech to let me post multiple shots - or heck, maybe there's a setting somewhere that I missed!

Robbie the Gnome

Seems that most schisms were started over small things. Humans are funny. One little difference can mean the world to people.

Amy Reynolds

I'm so excited about this series! I loved how well this team handled the issue of faith in games in a previous Extra Credits episode, and I'm really looking forward to seeing them handle a topic like this. As a practicing Christian, I always find it fascinating to see intelligent perspectives on my faith and its history from people outside it, and I can't wait to see this one!

Nicole Barovic

Ah, it's an ART preview. I wondered why I was getting a message about this series on Wednesday.

ExtraCredits

Yeah, sorry about that! As soon as I made the post (i.e. when it went out to your email) I had one of those "oh shoot" moments as I realized that it sounded like the actual episode was ready.

ExtraCredits

We're hoping this will serve as a "101" or a reference point so when we're talking about things like monophysitism in the Justinian series, we can point back to this series for a more thorough explanation than that narrative had room for at the time!

Robbie the Gnome

On the art though: I love the symbolism here. It is a great example of the simple but complex imagery I was speaking of in the last WWII video.

Jane

what about slide show video? no audio required

Pavel Braginskiy

Why is there not a regular EC video up today?

Javier

The differences between faiths were the excuse for the schism, it was all about politics and power. If you wanted to go to war against a nation but they didn't provoke you, to avoid retaliation from their allies you accuse them of heresy and/or following the wrong religion. If you wanted to divorce your queen to marry a new one, you declare yourself the leader of your own religion. If you wanted control over a group of people but a small sect is gaining too much attention, then they are heretics and should be slaughtered. If you didn't want a religious leader having any kind of power over your subjects, you declared their worship wrong and against the true faith... and so on and so forth. It's never about faith or values.

Juaquine

This is really cool. So many people talk about the Reformation but so few talk about the EARLY Church. Thanks.

ExtraCredits

We had several computer crashes and a power outage so - lost data, and had to restart. It's going to be out Thursday! I thought about putting up a video to say something about it but I didn't want people to feel spammed. This is, perhaps, a particular paranoia of mine. :P

Robbie the Gnome

Even though it's the same style throughout all the artists lend their own little touches and flares. I may watch you guys too a lot.

Iain Docherty

As far as I can remember it was something to do with whether or not converts to Christianity would need to be circumcised and follow the other rules of Judaism. There was one guy in particular that I remember was particularly enthusiastic that Christianity should be its own thing separate of Judaism but for the life of me I can't remember his name

Anonymous

Is there a 'Further Reading' list anywhere for your topics, for those of us who would like to look further into a given topic?

Sean Sarff

I don't mind multiple emails from you guys. Just shows I'm getting my donations worth and then some. That said I hope this leads to the Reformation and the 30 years war (I like to call it WW .25). A lot of interesting characters at that time and explains a bunch about why Austria didn't help Hungary.

ExtraCredits

So, I don't know what James prefers as we research our sources differently (he does the deep dive, I do an overview so I can understand things in the script), but I picked up "Orthodoxy and Heresy in Early Christian Contexts" (edited) by Paul Hartog. Keep in mind, this source wasn't necessarily used for the series - I'd have to check with James on that - it's just what I picked up to help me get a handle on the subject.

ExtraCredits

You got it. :) There were several folks advocated for a Christianity separate from Judaism but I'd say Paul the Apostle gets the most play in this first episode.