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What Topic Should Extra History Cover? (Patreon)

Published:
2017-03-26 22:23:53
Imported:
2026-06

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What would you like to see us talk about on Extra History? Cast your vote for the topic(s) you like and let us know!

I set the poll up wrong, so we are starting it over again! Apologies, everyone. The poll will close on March 29 at 11:59pm PDT.

Comments

Stephen

Shame it doesn't look like I'm going to get to ask you how you're planning on handling the modern representation vs historic context thing of Alexander's sexuality, but... Great Northern War sounds interesting, and Talleyrand was borderline getting a rare third vote from me...

RMS Oceanic

Gotta shill for Talleyrand. From corrupt atheist bishop to pragmatic survivor to Emigre Exile to shrewd foreign minister to accidental war starter to coup organiser to Louisiana seller to secret fifth column to briefly president to Neo Revolutionary in 1830. Diplomats need more love!

Kathyrne

No idea what Telleyrand is. Teach Me Sumthin!!

Dr.V

As much as I love the interesting sets (such as the Great Northern War which was very interesting or Talleyrand which I know nothing about), I feel that some classic history would be best for the next set as I like using these videos as introductions to topics for students. Therefore I feel that a classic Alexander the Great (especially) or Julius Caesar would be VERY beneficial to help people with their basic history. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful day out there :)

Alex Purchase

Northern war. FOR THE GLORY OF SABATON! :D :P

Marco Honrade

hmm good topics once again. Talleyrand was the French foreign minister after the defeat of Napoleon. He was the principle actor of the Congress of Vienna, which shaped European, and by extension Global, politics until the 1919 Treaty of Versailles at end of WW1 . So the Great Northern War? Finally that ardent faction pushing for it has been heard. Regardless, it very important to modern day international politics since that war lead to Russian conquest of the Baltic and the founding of Saint Petersburg on the former Swedish territory. Alexander, it is his fourth time up to bat; he was one of first voting topics, second place but losing in a landslide to Sengoku Jidai. Julius Caesar, another perennial candidate. His life really does need a 2-parter to do him justice. So I am hesitant to vote for him; however, another channel is already covering him year by year, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsK4nX0tCGQ&list=PLODnBH8kenOp7y_w1CWTtSLxGgAU6BR8M&index=24" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsK4nX0tCGQ&list=PLODnBH8kenOp7y_w1CWTtSLxGgAU6BR8M&index=24</a> . He also covers roman legislative procedure, roman elections, etc if you need more backstory to the Gracchi brothers.

theanimangagirl

Special Shout-out to the book 'The Eight' who taught me who Talleyrand was and how adaptable he was. [Tho in real life if probably had nothing to do with a Chess set]

Nessf

Hard choice! ...going with the ones I know the least about. Tallyrand and the Great Northern War

Zoe Alleyne

Again, many Great Men history and no lady options. . .

Ikeda Hakubi

This one I know nothing about.

Antti Björklund

Talleyrand and the Great Northern War for me.

Winters King

i get the feeling that everyone who voted either alexander or the great northern war would have voted the other, had their first choice not been here.

Christina Maria Jessen
>>4426882

That's really just a matter of how narrowly history is taught in the US. The Great Northern War was a pivotal moment in shaping northern, eastern and central Europe with consequences that would directly last through the Treaty of Versailles two hundred years later. Many of the consequences of it are still important to the politics of the region today in a pretty immediate sense, such as Russia's position in eastern and central Europe. Similarly, Talleyrand is a key character of the Napoleonic Wars, which had pretty major consequences for the world ever since. The classical stuff is arguably less important to starting out studying history since it was a long time ago and the consequences and heritages of it are quite muddy and don't directly relate to the modern world.

Christina Maria Jessen
>>4427157

It's not a plan since it's a person, so it's presumable Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Perigord, Napoleon's foreign minister who betrayed him to the Austrians and Russians. He was an all around pivotal figure in the Napoleonic and post-Napoleonic world.

Christina Maria Jessen
>>4429128

While I myself generally push for more East Asian history, mostly Chinese and Manchurian, I did suggest Margaret I, the founder of the Kalmar Union and quite possibly most influential Scandinavian ruler ever, once but she didn't win the raffle. I'll throw her name out there as one to suggest for others who want great women. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_I_of_Denmark" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_I_of_Denmark</a>

David Malinsky

Bismarck, I'm gonna let you finish, but Talleyrand is Best Diplomat! Thanks EC for including him!

SparkyDJM1

Man, this choice is so hard. I loved Alexander and Caesar when I started learning history and Talleyrand seems like it'll be a real ball to learn about. I enjoy learning about people and events I've never really heard of like the South Sea Bubble. That said, Great Northern War will hopefully prevail :)

Peter Melling

Once again, we completely ignore the Indian Subcontinent, which is severely underrepresented in our history curriculums despite the wealth of important historical narratives in the region. Don't get me wrong, I like that there's been attention towards less well-known stories like the Great Northern War/Talleyrand and the Bronze Age Collapse, but this series has been awfully Eurocentric for a while now (even when focusing on land outside of Europe, there are still European colonial figures involved). The Indian Subcontinent (and heck, all of South/Southeast Asia) should be the focus of a good series.

Peter Melling
>>4433066

Also, should you guys return to Asian stories, please don't repeat the same mistakes of the Suleiman series (i.e. depicting only the war-mongering sides of leaders, perpetuating long-discredited historical theories, etc.).

Anthony Farrell
>>4429036

Just from a personal perspective, it's because I love hearing the Extra History take on obscure history. There's a time for revisiting some of my favorite familiar stories, but I feel like my historical perspective expands when I hear about somebody new, like Talleyrand.

General Luigi

Here's hoping the Great Northern War, if it's chosen, will focus on all sides rather than just one. I'm mostly familiar with the Russian side of the story, but I know the war involved more than just Russia and Sweden. Edit: Победа!

Zachary Joyner

Tallyrand for life! We have Napoleon getting his feelings hurt, revolutionaries, counter-revolutionaries, counter-counter-revolutionaries and the xyz affair pulling the US into the undeclared navel war with France. What more could you ask for?

Pros and Cons

When and/or where can we suggest our choice for the next topic? I was hoping Extra History could do one on Alexander Hamilton

TerraN0va

Given that pretty much everyone has at least basic working knowledge on Alex and JC, I figured I'd boost the just-as-interesting but lesser-known topics. :)

SparkyDJM1
>>4445201

Same here. I love both Alexander and Caesar but I love EH's exploration of lesser known topics more :)

Daniel Fraser

I've been really looking forward to Julius Caesar, but honestly, first i want them to go back, and finish of the opium wars.

General Luigi
>>4434477

As a side-note, Pyotr Tchaikovsky actually wrote an opera that is a dramatization of the actions of one of the major figures in the Great Northern War: Ivan Mazeppa. The orchestral opening to the third act is meant to represent the Battle of Poltava. ...Just something for the Kiner Brothers to look into when and if they have to compose music for a series on the Great Northern War.

Zoe Alleyne
>>4429128

Two women have been done in the entire Extra History series. Two. I don't know if you're counting but that isn't statistically high, but dudes like you think "Omg, we just had one woman" .

Jack the Rat

I'd love to hear about Caesar from them but I really really want to hear about Talleyrand