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WandaVision | Episode 9 | Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-04-17 14:05:01
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WandaVision was sooooo good. By the end of this episode, my brain was spinning at all of the twists, turns, and emotions. There was so much heart woven into every single scene- Wanda's grief, her strength, her self-discovery, her epic arc that felt like uncovering something so ancient and powerful. And the moment when she finally accepts her grief and says goodbye to Vision and her beautiful kids, knowing that it is the only true way forward. It felt like a quiet, beautiful heartbreak but I was also so incredibly proud of her. She wasn't just becoming the Scarlet Witch; she was finally allowing herself to be. And that really stayed with me... I completely fell in love with WandaVision as a series. It took so many bold risks, honored Wanda's entire arc in such an awesome way, and gave her the depth that she always deserved. How she navigated her trauma, her identity, and ultimately her 'newfound' power made this show completely unforgettable for me. Her pain didn't define her, it shaped her, and I found so much real beauty in that.But I think the real question leaving this is.... Where is 'Vision'???Thank you for your support on Patreon!Relax and enjoy 🍿🌿LINK: https://youtu.be/ofNjJ316PNoI watched this on Disney Plus

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WandaVision | Episode 9 | Watch Along

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Richard

What an incredible finale. Hayward fully reveals himself to be the lowest level of scumbag. The twins are battle-ready. The 2 Visions combine. Agatha gets defeated by Wanda's cunning. Wanda having to fully confront the terrible effect her spell had on innocent people. The those gut-wrenching goodbyes, yeeesh. And now we have the fully armed and operational Wanda the Scarlet Witch. Here you were saying during the show about stuff like "Wanda is so powerful it's insane" - and then she gets even more powerful! Watching this show with you meant so much for me personally since I'm such a huge Lizzie Olsen fan (my favorite actress) and having you refer specifically to her great acting made me happy. Yes her ability to express emotions, especially sadness, through those big green beautiful eyes of hers has always been one of her strengths since she started in the biz. Your empathy watching her be made to re-live all her past trauma was both beautiful and heart-breaking. : ( As we've talked about here, this show was basically a deep-dive into grief. Masterfully done; going through all the aspects of how one is affected, how it affects others around you, your world-view, everything. Some of the lines they came up with were so impactful: "What is grief, if not love persevering?" I know you are planning an MCU mini-break, but I am hoping that after hearing the twins crying to Wanda for help in the end-credits scene makes you at least want to see where that goes. It leads straight into Doctor Strange 2: Multiverse of Madness which came out the following year. Spiderman No Way Home would be the only thing necessary to see prior; and it sounds like you're already planning that after binging the non-MCU spidey films. I will just say that Lizzie's acting in Dr Strange 2 is one of my favorite acting performances of all time. One last important thing, I'm thinking you need to be wearing that new full-on Scarlet Witch outfit when you watch Wanda's next outing. What is your opinion on that? : )

Scott S

'What is grief, but love persevering'. What an incredible poignant line.

Jojo Garlin

Not to give away too much The Darkhold is also first referenced in the series Agents of Shield which came before this series. Though admittedly there’s not a direct connection between the two series AOS gives a bit more insight.

FearTheTREMOR

Yeah this finale, these last two episodes, are so special. Episode 8 is super heart wrenching to watch. Wanda going through all that she had, and using old sitcoms as a coping mechanism, it makes the context for the earlier episodes that much more tragic. The whole show was Wanda experiencing, avoiding, and finally confronting her grief. So in the comics, the Scarlett Witch is a very special character. Her power and her trauma, it's put her in a very tentative spot with morality and her actions. She, like here in Wandavision, has done things that are.... a little less than morally ambiguous. She is not a villain of course, but she has a history of inching her way down that path. Anti Heroes like Wanda are so interesting to watch. The moment in the finale struck so hard with me when she became the Scarlett Witch. Her full comic suit, the crown and everything, it was a big moment for a very big character. Man, the goodbye scene. Wanda explaining that Vision is her love, is so touching. It connects back to Visions line. Grief is the last gift we give to the departed. That pain means that whoever you lost, they mattered. They were important and real, and grieving is a sign that it was real. It's a sign that your love for them is persevering. This was such a great show, I love the big swings they took, confusing the audience at the start, only to slowly reveal things and even by the end, leave us wondering where these threads will go. Thanks for watching this Kali! Very excited for Black Widow!

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What an epic finale! These last few years i forgot how good this show was because i watched it in 2021 when it was airing every week. This really helped me remind myself how good this show was so thank you for that. You mentioned raimi's spiderman movies so here are some recommendations for all the other non mcu marvel stuff since its all canon now: to fully understand the hawkeye series you should watch daredevil, for no way home you should watch all the og spiderman and andrew garfield spiderman movies and also venom but thats not too important and finally for deadpool and wolverine obviously the foxverse/xmen movies. Whatever order you do it in I'd recommend noting that down since it can get very confusing if you don't watch those. And finally another duo of movies id recommend watching are the spider verse movies they aren't canon but they're awesome and its a good viewing experience. See you for black widow.

Joe

The degree of difficulty of this series is off the charts. To be able to tell a cohesive and compelling narrative across decades of sitcom homages, with the tone, design, and performances varying each week, and still have it hit this hard is an incredible accomplishment. They could have done a show parodying sitcoms with superheroes and it would have been fun and all, but they did so much more. Plus, what a great move by Marvel for their first television project to honor the history of television in their first show. And really, could you imagine this story being told as a movie? The episodic nature made it shine. Finally, another point that stands out to me is that Wanda is objectively the villain of this story. Yes, Hayward is a terrrible person and crosses many lines and Agatha is up to her own witchiness. But, Wanda enslaves a town full of people and imprisons them in her own grief. It is arguable how much she was aware of the impact of her actions, but she was aware of what she was doing and become more aware as the story progressed and did not stop when she could have. Not only that, she is still doing it with Agatha! Yes Agatha interfered with Wanda’s bad actions, but is that the fate she or anyone deserves? You understand why, feel her grief, and can be proud she eventually stops, and understand what she had to give up, but should there be consequences? What are the implications of someone that powerful, who is still unstable? We all love Wanda but the show does raise those questions. Very excited to continue your Marvel journey with you with Spider-Man, X-Men and more. Lots of good stuff ahead!

Curaitis

Im truly happy you enjoyed it. Also excited for the Spider Man and X-Men Franchises. Some good stuff awaits you and some Tissues. *hint hint* I regards to the Show i guess im a different kind of breed. I watched it again and cant stop myself from thinking about so many other stuff about the story, the decisions of characters and if all of that make sense. To hear you and to read the comments show me again its all about feelings while im sitting there and think that a "should be" mass murderer flew away without any consequences and its totally fine for you all. Did you ever thought about how all those people at the outskirts survived standing still for 9 Days without, food, water or being able to go to the toilet or not even able to do it where they stand because they had no control over there body!? Or why Rambeau was always forcefully used as a vessel to push forward the narrative that Wanda isnt evil while she had no idea who was behind all of that? She even said that Wanda isnt a terrorist while she knew she mentally enslaved a whole town and took them hostage. Not every Terrorist is politically driven. She blindly trusts her without any reason. She doesnt know her at all other then what she might have remembered from before the blip. Of course you can use a Character, a tool or a vessel to push a narrative but you need to be smart and surgical, Rambeau is a sledgehammer, in your face, every freaking time. The People knew about their mental abuse but Rambeau still selling the narrative that Wanda isnt the villain. What mental gymnastics do you have to excercise to get to that point? Why did she call Hayward in Episode 6 a coward after he called her out not being there and going threw all the struggle the survivors had to. Why is he a coward mentioning that? Wasnt he right in that point? She was gone and they had to do everything so humanity could survive and trust me they will come back to that in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Why was she so eager to get into the Hex again after she should have known she would loose control again to Wanda. Also, shrugging off the effect to her DNA...classic girl boss move. Seriously, your DNA get changed and you have no idea what that might do to you but she just says "yeah i dont give a damn" Another point is why the Avengers didnt take care about Visions Body. There are some explainations to that but not one is really convincing. Wouldnt they at least have tried to secure his Body so that he could be buried or something? Tony comes to my mind at first, he had the closest relation to him because of Jarvis. The Stark Damage Control should taken care of Vision and not the Military or SWORD. Last but really not least i want to mention.."They have no idea what you have sacrificed.". Think about the character of a person who makes hundreds, maybe thousands of people the bad guys and Wanda the good guy. Talking about pushing a narrative. She mentally enslaved a whole town, she is mentally ill due to all the bad and tragic things that happened to her throughout her life and Rambeau only comes up with "You are the good person and they are just stupid and dont know it better". What kind of mindset do need to have to come with that kind of empathy? And not to talk about having and unstable/mentally ill super powerful Witch flying away. No second thought about if this is such a good thing? Who knows what she will do the next time if she gets to emotional again. Atleast The Marvels Movie solved some of my issues with this character. I know i look bitchy and over the top. Its nothing against the actors. The cast with Olsen, Bettany and Hahn is great. Its the writing and the logic behind it who screwed p4 completely imho and Wandavision is peak in that phase. Nevertheless, im really happy that you enjoyed it and never ever let someone snarky like me ruin it for you. I really like the show after all i wrote because i like Wanda but the writing and script is aweful. In regards to Black Widow, im sure you will love it while its in my all-time top 5 "never ever again, one and done" garbage list. XD Take care and try to be lenient with me. I just view Movies and Shows from a different point. P.S. Pls remember all the comments here and your own words mentioning how great the show was deep diving into Wandas grief, pain and suffering. I will come back to that in the next show.

TheJoeKerr

Dr. Strange was originally going to be used in this series but they ultimately decided against it so they wouldn't take away from Wanda's story arc. I remember reading that they originally had Dr Strange injecting the commercials to try to communicate with Wanda. He was actually supposed to appear in the final episode but scrapped the entire thing.

Malcolm Ferguson

Yeah, this show was really good, and I’m glad you enjoyed it. I really like what it does for Wanda’s character. I always like seeing morally good characters do highly questionable things for understandable reasons. It makes them feel very human. And the idea of using sitcoms to portray a character dealing with their grief is kind of brilliant. I don’t know who would think of that, but it worked really well, especially when you see Wanda’s backstory in episode 8. Agatha was also a lot of fun, both when she was pretending to be Agnes and when she revealed her true self. Kathryn Hahn killed it in that role. I do have some minor gripes, like I thought they made Hayward too one-note and wish they had given him a bit more depth (or at least some sort of understandable motivation), but on the whole, yeah, I like this show a lot.

M1 Maz

This show really blew me away! Back when it first released, judging off some of the isolated clips I would see floating around Twitter, I thought I would hate it LOL. But sitting down to watch it right before you, I really came to love all the vibes, mysteries, arcs, and emotions! Also love how everything finally came together and culminated in these last few episodes! This definitely was a rollercoaster for you to record it all in one sitting haha. One of the big themes that really stuck with me in this series (apart from the obvious love and grief) is what defines our sense of self. All the light, and all the dark, comes together to make us who we are. Sometimes because of what we're going through, the darkness takes hold, but instead of running away from it, and trying to suppress it, we saw in this show that the only way to really work through it is to deal with it head on. Again also seen with the conversation between the two visions. What really defines us as an individual? Our body, soul, memories? All of them? But I think overall my favorite thing about this show is how amazingly it combined the silliness and humor, with all the emotions. On one hand, we had all the sitcom vibes, from all the eras, along with lots of funny moments with Darcy in her truck, etc. But then we also had the deep emotional power of everything Wanda was going through and all her amazing conversations with Vision. I think you felt it alllll in these last few episodes, jumping between crying and laughing by the minute haha Thank you for the amazing reaction through this series! Was very enjoyable to see it through your eyes, and all the extra emotional impact you added to it. And also, that sounds like a great plan you have for continuing through the MCU! I know you're going to love the classic Spider-Man movies, and it's starting to feel like the perfect time to start mixing in those, X-Men, etc along with the newer stuff!

KJ

What a great show. So glad you watched it before taking an MCU break. I've made some suggestions on how to watch the Spider-Man and X-Men movies on discord. The book is The Darkhold: the book of the damned. Agatha mentioned how it foretells The Scarlet Witch is / would be more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme 👀 I guess The Scarlet Witch is that elemental force we were discussing a few episodes ago, but fully realised or given form. This level of power I guess could be classified as cosmic - something so great it's unimaginable. The show actually teased very early on witchcraft was at play when Darcy called the containment field Wanda created a 'Hex'.

Onno Smits

Really excited for Black Widow next! I absolutely love that movie. RE: How good WandaVision was, and people telling you to just stop after Endgame; This isn't even my favourite MCU show! Even if you don't count Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (which is probably my favourite show ever!) there is still another show a little ways past the horizon that I enjoyed more than WandaVision... 👀 WandaVision is probably the best-written thing post-Endgame though. What a masterpiece!

Lastboyscout73

Excellent reaction to an excellent show. Just a little thing that some people (including me) were annoyed about was the mis-direct with the actor that played Quicksilver in the FOX X-Men universe being just a regular dude named Ralph Bohner. Looking back now though, I find it a bit more funny. Not much else to say, except I am glad you are at least watching Black Widow before you pause considering where it is in the marvel timeline. I told you this before but it should of been a Phase 3 release but what I didn't tell you is at the time the executives were worried that a female lead superhero movie wouldn't do well at the Box office. The sad thing is the pandemic messed it up and they released that movie on Disney + the same day they released it in theaters. Opinions vary, but mine is I really like that movie. Back to WandaVision, I'm glad you loved the show, it was fun to revisit it and I will have something a little special to show you in the DM's, so look there when you have a minute.

Lawrence Gibson

Jac Schaeffer, who in my opinion is a brilliant storyteller, has been a real bright spot for the MCU. Phases 4,5 and 6 have gotten a lot of criticism. However, I believe that Jac Schaeffer is keeping the MCU alive with her shows through the aforementioned phases. She also co-wrote Black Widow. Anyway, she created a three-part series for the MCU. Wanda Vision, Agatha All Along and VisionQuest. From what I understand, she has decided to leave the Vision Quest project. I am very sad she decided to do this because Wanda Vision and Agatha All Along were brilliant TV shows for the MCU. Please don't listen to the haters out there. I am and will always be an MCU fan. Please keep watching! Please continue through the next phases!

Richard

Well it wouldn’t be a “community” if we didn’t enjoy varying viewpoints. I personally loved WandaVision but disliked most of the other MCU miniseries. One reason of course being that I’m an Elizabeth Olsen simp. But I don’t like Loki in “bro” mode; I like him as the brooding conflicted untrustworthy antihero in The Dark World.

The Dingo

Thank you for letting us come with you on this journey! I'm looking forward to the Spider-Man detour; this break is also a good time to watch Daredevil Season 1, as it was retroactively added to the MCU and there are things coming up that incorporate aspects of that show into the MCU.

Curaitis

Oh i still like Wandavision. It had by far the most potential, mainly because of the cast and it showed it in the first few episodes but the writing went completely off and stayed there for the whole of p4 and 5. I mean there is a reason why nearly every show and Movie tanked hard. And even if i doesnt sound like it, im fine with everyone who likes it. Some people are just there to consume, get hyped for the next, consume and so forth but i just cant ignore it. I think it makes you appreciate the good Movies and Shows way more. How can you say, for example, Breaking Bad is amazing and then think She Hulk is amazing too!? This doesnt work and it clearly shows that people have no idea and are just saying what they think their audience expect or they are to afraid to get backlash. Natalie Golds Star Wars Episode 7-9 reactions were a prime example for that. She didnt like it and explained it and called the BS out and the fake fans went nuts. Nat is courageous and self confident enough to tell the truth while most others are just to afraid of it. But before that you need atleast to be able to even see the flaws. Its never being the cast imho, its really ALWAYS the writing and the checkboxes that Disney shoved down our throats (if you know what i mean) that ruined the MCU for me. I mean, who isnt at least a little bit simping for her. She is a great actress and a very nice person for what i can say. Dont know what you mean with "Loki", i only know "Sylvie". (If you know, you know.) but i guess thats what you meant with "bro" mode. Anyway, i appreciate your comment Richard.

kaliwali

Wow, even though I'm a day late replying. I had to sit with this message for a second! You capture the finale and the entire journey so beautifully :) I'm honestly right there with you. That final episode broke me open, but in the best ways. Hayward being the actual worst kind of human, Agatha getting outmaneuvered, the Visions' Ship of Theseus moment, and Wanda coming into her full identity as the Scarlet Witch was SUCH an incredible ending to an already awesome series. Wow. The moment when Wanda realizes the pain she has caused hit me, too. It would've been so easy for the show to dodge that accountability, but instead it sat in it and made us really feel it all. And don't even get me started on those goodbyes again, ugh. The way she held her children one last time, and then turned to Vision with such softness and strength.. She has fully healed and is learning to let it all go. Elizabeth Olsen was so amazing in this! Thank you for sharing how much she means to you. I really felt it too, especially in the way she showed Wanda's quiet grief and guilt. Her eyes told a whole story within them. And you definitely got me with the end credits moment! The twins' voices calling out??? What does that even mean!? And also, where the heck did Vision 2.0 go off to once he found out he is 'Vision'? He has all of those memories... It makes me wonder if Vision will come back in some capacity 👀 And the Scarlet Witch cosplay hahaha. I feel like she definitely earned that look and it's an AMAZING one. Definitely got me motivated to do a cosplay of my own sometime 🔥 I haven't done any since my Twitch days lol. Thanks so much for sharing this journey with me! It was absolutely epic!

kaliwali

Very cool that this isn't the first time we are hearing/seeing it!

kaliwali

Thank YOU! It's been awesome reading your responses to this amazing series- especially these last few episodes! The deep dive into Wanda's past just wrecked me. The way she clung to those sitcoms as a source of comfort, something stable in the middle of all the trauma- Wow. It made the early episodes feel even more tragic in hindsight now. What we thought was playful nostalgia aimed at the viewers was actually just her survival mechanism.. hits so differently now. And yes! The way the show walked us through her entire journey- grief, avoidance, anger, acceptance. It was soooo brutally honest and layered. I really appreciate you sharing more about her comic background too! I know I want to get into the comics, but in reality it'll be awhile before I catch up and get to them lol. So it's really neat hearing about how they fit into the shows/films in the MCU. I know Wanda's character has always been a bit on that moral edge, but now I see more and more of it. That complexity makes her even more compelling.. She's not easily labeled at all and that's what makes her very human! And her transformation to the Scarlet Witch in this series! Such a powerful moment. The suit, the crown.. It felt so powerful and mythical. Like a destiny unknown being fulfilled, but also leaving me feeling a little uneasy about it all. And I love that, "what now?" feeling it left us with! Seriously, thank you for hanging out and being here for the journey! I'm veeeeeeery ready for Black Widow next! 🔥

kaliwali

Such an epic finale, yessss! I totally get what you mean. I feel like WandaVision kind of lives in its own emotional pocket of the MCU and rewatching it really shows you just how deep and special it is. Looking back on the sitcoms, I thought they were for our own nostalgic enjoyment, but it was really Wanda's coping mechanism and survival instinct this entire time! In hindsight, that adds sooooo much depth to those earlier episodes. Thank you for the recommendations! And I appreciate you hanging out here for this epic journey! Glad you enjoyed the rewatch with me! And I can't wait to see Black Widow next!!

Jp Davis

While I can’t wait for you to check out the Spider-Man movies, I also can’t wait for you to see the next couple MCU projects as they are really great as well. I know you got a lot of stuff to cover but at some point you should try to check out the daredevil saga as well as it ties into future projects and has some very good tv shows. Really enjoyed the reaction and can’t wait for the next!

kaliwali

Such a thoughtful breakdown, and I completely agree. And they didn't just pull off that high level of difficulty, they elevated it into something so special. And you're also right that they could've stopped at a fun superhero-sitcom gimmick and called it a day. But no. They told one of the most layered adn emotionally grounded stories that I've seen in the MCU so far, honestly. Thank you for being here for the experience and sharing your awesome thoughts! I really enjoyed reading them. See you in Black Widow next!! (And I'm very excited to jump more into the OG Spider-Mans and X-Men content, too!)

kaliwali

First off, I really appreciate you writing all of this! I think it's totally fair to watch something and not just feel it emotionally but also hold it up to the light and ask deeper questions. Especially when you've loved a franchise like the MCU for so long. I hear you about Wanda's actions and the lack of consequences. I was wondering the same thing when Monica let her just walk away. And I don't think mentally enslaving an entire town should be brushed aside. But I do think the show wanted to live in that gray area, where we can simultaneously empathize with her grief and still question her morality. But whether it balanced those two sides well enough? That's up for debate, sure. And you bring a lot of valid points to the table. At the end of the day, even though I personally LOVED the emotional arc, I do appreciate you taking time to unpack the logic holes. It doesn't' take away from my experience because I'm gonna love what I love and choose to look past those nuances lol. But it does make things fun to engage with and hold space for critique going forward. That's a part of what makes talking and theorizing about this Universe so great. As for Black Widow- I'm very excited to get into it! Thanks for sharing your thoughts so openly!

kaliwali

I'm kinda glad they made this all about Wanda. But I do see the parallels with that end astral projecting scene 👀🔥

kaliwali

I do agree that this final episode could have probably been spaced out into 2 to help Hayward feel less one-note and give him more screen time to show his motivations. Also, kinda strange that Wanda was able to just walk away free from it all after enslaving an entire town. BUT- This show was actually epic. And I loved every part of Wanda's arc in it!

kaliwali

The Ralph Bohner thing hahaha. That was such a moment. I get why it could rub fans the wrong way at the time though. But weirdly, I think I'm starting to come around to your view- it's so absurd that it kind of circles back to being funny in hindsight. A chaotic choice, but memorable haha. I'm excited to get into Black Widow next though! And I won't be hitting pause on the MCU for long! I can't lol.

kaliwali

After seeing how STRONG Phase 4 just kicked off with this show.. I won't be abandoning this MCU ship lol. Haters are gonna hate. And I remember being "meh" about some movies in previous phases, but that never took away from the epic ones! So I'm really looking forward to keep watching!

Richard

I meant the Loki from the Thor movies being a guy that you grab a beer with and joke with. It just doesn't feel right to me, after what he was earlier in the MCU.

Malcolm Ferguson

That's true, lol. As bad as I feel for her, I do think Wanda got off a little too easy.

Cory Stanish

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is excellent and it's because I watched that show that my heart dropped when I heard her say "Darkhold." Because that book is bad news to say the least.

Phil Stubblefield

Agreed! Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is one of my favorite shows, and I also gasped when I first heard Agnes say "Darkhold". #SHIELDforKali 🙂

Phil Stubblefield

Yes, Wanda was just able to walk away without facing any consequences for her actions, which seems very unfair. OTOH... who was going to stop her? Who on Earth is powerful enough?

Phil Stubblefield

Finally took the time to watch the final two episodes with you tonight. Holy cow, Kali! I feel like a broken record, but it's amazing to watch you flex *your* superpowers: (1) a super sense of compassion that has you crying the moment we encounter child Wanda because you can already sense what's ahead (which of course started me crying too); and (2) a super intelligent insight that lets you notice and understand things that I *still* hadn't realized after repeated viewings (e.g., Agnes' "husband" Ralph was really just Ralph Bohner, the kid next door). I so enjoy experiencing films through your eyes! Thank you for sharing your gifts with us! 😊

kaliwali

Yesss! Gotta say I'm really looking forward to all of it, too! I don't plan on taking a super long break from the MCU. Just so that I can get the OG Spider-Man films under my belt to move forward! And yesss, I really want to watch the Daredevil saga. I've heard awesome things about it! Maybe I can watch it alongside another MCU show in this phase

kaliwali

Awww thank you so much, Phil! These last two episodes were soooo amazingly deep and beautiful. I absolutely LOVE what they did with Wanda's arc. Going back and seeing her past up close and personal was so difficult. But it also gave me a whole newfound love and understanding for her character which I really enjoyed. This show was so well written and directed. To think all along, the sitcoms weren't for our own personal enjoyment and nostalgia- But a part of Wanda and her trauma all along. Wow! Absolutely incredible storytelling.. See you in Black Widow next!!

Jonathan Spahn

WandaVision was nominated for 23 Emmy's and won 3 for costume, music, and production design. Personally, I felt Elizabeth Olson should have won Best Actress at least, but I'm happy she got a nod along with Paul Bettany and others. I think I went throa dozen tissues on this one 😂😭 In my opinion, this is still maybe the best show Marvel has made so far, not to discount others that came after (there are good ones coming, just don't want to spoil 😉) Looking forward to Black Widow 😃 👍

Noah Schmid

I think the 2. half of thise show was the start of the downfall uf the MCU. I think you would be better of if you invest your time in other stuff because, just "phase 4" has more houres of film than all of the first 3 phases combined🥴 It just became Quantity over Quality to dump as much as possible on to Disney+ its sade. And because of that every projekt was worst just than the next one😔 but remember I just want to save you time to watch much better Films and Shows🫡❣️

Richard

I think Lizzie won the Golden Globe but not the Emmy. But she was first ever nominated for a Marvel project. She was fab.

Dooba Dooba

"phase 4" has more houres of film than all of the first 3 phases combined.. This is not a case of Quantity over quality. this is a case of "we are using a different medium, we are able to slow down" You are not trying to save her time, you are enforcing your own ideals. Let her come to her own conclusions over the MCU.

Dooba Dooba

these stories are good, Learning to move on. but i can appreciate how it takes peace first, It takes being able to spend time with a lost person to move past them; or being in a delusional happiness to surpass your trauma.. Idk, i guess i find it validating to hate hearing "move on" from a friend, because they are failing to help you be in a position to begin moving on.

kaliwali

Oh for sure. "Just move on" is the worst advice and it never works. People need time to heal, grieve, live in that delusional happiness where we bargain and try to pretend the pain isn't there. That's what makes this show so beautiful. We got to feel and see Wanda's grief in all of its stages.. And the ending of it all was so well done and peaceful. I loved it!

Curaitis

Sorry for the late answer. @Richard Totally get you but i think its because of what i wrote in my first comment. But i think we should keep that discussion out of here until she has watched it. @Kali I get your viewpoint on their approach to morality but my thoughts are not even there. I ask myself if they have even thought about it when i see such plot holes like the starving problem. If they havent thought about that why should i assume they have thought what you talked about. Maybe you are right and they had to do it that way because people cant empathize with her. I can understand her behaviour, decisions and actions even with all the problems i saw with the script. To Judge Wanda is easy because we know her for a quite a while and we saw her character development for years. Monica on the other hand is a new character and all we know is what we saw in the show. Plot holes are never related to a character but only to the writers. As the saying goes "A Story can only be as smart as their author.". Another Thing is that its quite unfair for me to pull into this conversation while you havent experienced what happened back then outside of the show between the Studio and the Fans and im wont going into that. I would never think about criticizing or even attacking Teyonah Parris (Actress of Monica) for what the Script told her to do. While im watching your Star Wars reaction, the same goes for Episode 7-9 which i absolutely despise but i would never attack the actors for what the Writers/Producers did wrong. To end this here. Im very happy that i cant take your joy for the Show away from you because this is never my intention for any Show or Movie with the exception of Rings of Power but thats coming from what the whole Crew said about Tolkien back then. I told you i still like Wandavision even with al those problems i have with it. It gets worse the more you go deeper into p4 but thats for a different time. All i try is to (can i say educate people or is this to arrogant?) about the whats behind the curtain and only if its that much in the clear. I know way to many People who are not interested in diving deeper into such things because it "ruins" it for them or they dont understand. Prime example here is the time travel plot hole in Avengers: Endgame. But atleast i get that because Hollywood Timetravelling is so wrong to actual Science but its easier the way Hollywood does it. Anyway. Thanks for the discussion, i really appreciate your open mind and the willingness to read my ranting. XD "And you, young Kali; we shall watch your career with great interest." You will get that later in your Star Wars Journey.