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I was just about to comment on how Six was dressed all conservatively for the first time ever because of her and Baltar's heated discussion on God. But then that scene turned into one of the most psychologically surreal episodes so far. She was actually there. In the Cylon flesh. Pointing fingers at Baltar for betraying the entire human race. From that moment on, everything shifted. And there was a moment when I found myself actually wondering, was that really Baltar in the evidence? Did he really do that? But then the so-called 'evidence' turns out doctored and Shelly 'Godfrey' is gone without a trace or explanation. And of course, right after Baltar's talk with God.This episode plays beautifully with the idea that faith and proof aren't opposites. They are two sides of the same coin really. Baltar, who always insists on logic, is being tormented by the unfathomable And the more he tries to deny it, the deeper he goes. I walked away from this one with more questions than answers, but somehow that feels right lolThank you for your support on Patreon!Relax and enjoy 🍿🌿LINK: https://youtu.be/5U5SAiDNezkI watched this on Amazon Prime

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Battlestar Galactica | S1 E7 | Watch Along

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Russell Rutigliano

What will really fuck with your brain on this episode…. Was Shelley Godfrey real or fake? She had to have been real RIGHT? Cause Commander Adama, Lieutenant Gaeta, Colonel Tigh, etc all saw her right? So she has to be real…. But if she’s real, Where the fuck did she go and how did she get away??? I LOVE this episode soooooo god damn much! I love BSG for making you think this episode really makes you THINK!!! Trivia Time: So during the bathroom scene Baltar is actually whistling the theme to the OG show! The enhancement of the photo Lt. Gaeta does is very similar to a plot device in the movie No Way Out (I recommend it if you’ve never seen it) Instincts and gut feelings were a major theme in this episode. President Roslin tells Baltar that she has a gut feeling he was involved somehow, in the Cylon attack on the home worlds, She was right!. Commander Adama had a gut feeling that Shelley Godfrey was a Cylon, and he was right!. Chief Tyrol starts having a gut feeling that Boomer is a Cylon cause of her odd fascination with the Cylon raider, Well he is right!. But meanwhile on Caprica Helo can not tell that Sharon is a Cylon, He’s the only one in this episode who comes in contact with a Cylon and doesn’t know it’s a Cylon. Edit: Oh the title is a reference to Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon

M1 Maz

Gaius is so unhinged and insane that I just can't not love his character LOL. Really enjoyed getting to see even more of what's going on in that crazy mind of his haha. Gaeta is another character who I'm really starting to like a lot as we see him appear more Sooooo many questions! For me, watching the episodes for myself, I'm about a full season ahead of you now. And it's been really cool coming back to these earlier episodes with you, and noticing things that I might have overlooked originally. Enriching my experience of watching the episodes where I'm at in Season 2 right now. Really been enjoying this series!

Blink

Eh... it is a reference to the concept of "Six Degrees of Separation", and her name is Six...

Fanchman

Obviously the show is not afraid to have religious themes. It appears you are willing to explore that side of the story without being turned off by it. I've seen other reactors who seem a little offended by the religious aspects of the story, which I never understood. Science fiction explores many wonders of the universe we don't understand. Why is it so out of bounds to include religious themes?

David T

The wonderful music theme from the OG 1970s show is used occasionally in this new series as a patriotic anthem or march which represents the home colonies. We heard it during the ceremonial flyby of the vipers during Adama’s first speech in the decommissioning ceremony in the miniseries. It’s always thrilling to hear it.

Russell Rutigliano

YEP! I brought that up to Kali during part II of the miniseries? It might have been part I. The OG theme is used a few times throughout the show in clever ways.

David T

Either Six is able to take physical form and appear as a real Shelley Godfrey that everyone can see and interact with, or Miss Godfrey IS real but is a separate Cylon version of the same model, who happened to already be in the fleet somewhere. And the idea of God in this episode is intriguing… Baltar prays and asks forgiveness, and immediately his version of head-Six reappears. Does this make her somehow an agent or ally of God? If so, does this make Shelley Godfrey an enemy or adversary of God? So many questions!

kaliwali

For sure! The Shelley Godfrey mystery is honestly still haunting me haha. I keep going back and forth on what I think she is. She has to be real though, right?? So many people interacted with her. Saw her. Got kissed by her lol. But then the sudden disappearance?? Vanished, poof. Off a MILITARY ship? Hmm. It's so eerie. It's almost like she blinked out of reality which makes "Cylons look human" more unsettling. Did she get extracted? Did she pull a River and turn into the ship? LOL Was she ever really there? I love that BSG gives you just enough to keep theorizing like crazy but not enough to ever really feel certain in your thoughts. Thanks for the trivia! Baltar whistling the OG theme is awesome hahaha. Very awesome touch and I'll have to check out No Way Out now. I also like your point about gut instinct being a running thread through this episode. It's like the human side of this conflict is trying to catch up with the machine side. The only thing they can do is trust their human instincts. Except poor Helo. He's just out there trying to survive and is so infatuated by Sharon that he can't see that he is in the most complicated trap lol. I guess that proves that love really is blinding. And I'm not familiar with Kevin Bacon too much. I've heard of him, for sure! But I'm not sure what the reference means to him lol but thanks!

kaliwali

I love Gaius and I also hate him so much hahahaha. And you explained why perfectly- he is just so unhinged and insane that it's hard NOT to love him. His facial expressions get me every single time hahaha. And Gaeta has definitely grown on me too after this episode! There is something super grounded and relatable about him that balances out all the craziness around him. I love hearing that watching along is giving you new fresh perspectives again! Especially since I know you're so far ahead! That's a really cool part about rewatching shows like this. As the mystery unfolds, you look back on earlier episodes and have AHA moments that make rewatching super enjoyable. Like watching a completely new show! It's been a really fun journey through this show so far! Here's to many more episodes and discoveries ahead!

kaliwali

BSG definitely dives deep into some religious themes and I think that's one of the reasons the story feels so rich and complex. As you can tell, I love it. I totally get how some people might feel uncomfortable or put off by it, but I think when done well those themes can add so much emotional depth and spark really interesting conversations and questions. Sci-Fi is a great genre for pushing boundaries and mixing ideas. So I love that they included spirituality alongside technology and politics. Feels like a very raw and real part of the human experience! Looking forward to diving into more as the story unfolds :)

Russell Rutigliano

Lmao did she pull a River and turn into the ship made me bust a gut! Oh man we gotta watch some Kevin Bacon movies! Three that I highly recommend off the top of my head are Tremors, Hollow Man (More of a thriller than a scary movie) and Footloose. And yeah that’s why Helo can’t see that Sharon is a Cylon cause he’s blinded by love. Btw if you never want full answers to a lot of the questions BSG offers up don’t watch The Plan cause it explicitly tells you certain things one of them being was Shelley Godfrey real or fake. So if you don’t want the answer to that question and several others avoid that movie.

kaliwali

Yes, exactly! Is Shelley Godfrey a physical manifestation of Six or a separate Cylon version already in the fleet? This adds a whole new scary thought of "Who's real?" and I'm sure that's what Adama is thinking since the entire encounter. And yes, the whole spiritual angle with Baltar praying and then seeing Six again is fascinating. It almost feels like she's more than just a hallucination or program. Is she working against that higher power though? Or is she just another player in a huge, complicated game? I love sitting with this mystery for awhile! The episodes this week have me asking so many questions and going back on all of them lol. Can't wait for next week!

Kristoffer

Will Star Wars episode 2 drop today?

KJ

That whole scene in the rest room stalls was hysterical 🤣

KJ

I do think this episode relates to Litmus in that the Cylons are aware of Baltar working on a project. Where physical sabotage failed (the suicide bombing), they tried political sabotage in framing Baltar. The goal either way to shut down the project. But either through his own mad genius, divine intervention or just pure dumb luck, Baltar survives 😂 As for the theology of the show, it's interesting how conversion of faith comes out of a place of desperation and imminent demise. Yet Six has said to Baltar that god is love. You'd think conversion then would come from a place of pure enlightenment and contentment.

Hera Lux

During my student years, I learned in my Logic class that everyone on Earth can be traced to you through six degrees of separation (the aunt of your college friend's overseas niece's boyfriend, etc.). But the degrees-of-separation part is still a mystery to me. Might it simply be an artistic choice — just to have 'six' in the title? Or is it a reference to the idea that the Cylons are only six degrees of separation away from every human being? We know humans created the Cylons. We're all only a few steps away from their creators.

MertzRocks

It's okay to watch THE PLAN, but only AFTER you finish the series completely. I'm not a big fan of The Plan, but it was okay...