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I'm still processing this one. At first, this episode felt like a breath of fresh air. A bit of much needed hope and a huge morale boost for everyone onboard the Galactica. But what's that saying about appearances being deceiving? Admiral Cain arrived like a force of nature. Calculated. Unflinching. And the way her crew has been operating was no different. The contrast between Cain's command and Adama's couldn't be sharper. And when the ball dropped that she was now in charge of the fleet, I think my heart skipped a beat. This episode felt like looking into a parallel universe where survival became the only moral compass. If President Roslin's sweet schoolteacher nature hadn't led Adama's softer side to saving the entire fleet back in the beginning of the end. Adama and his crew aren't perfect and never have been. But there is still a sense of boundaries, of trying to hold onto ethics even in a crumbling world. Cain and her crew, on the other hand, seem to believe that order justifies just about anything. I'm back to asking myself the same question I've been wondering since the beginning of Battlestar Galactica: What is the cost of survival? What is left when you sacrifice empathy and morality for the sake of the mission? This episode was SO good but has me super nervous about what's next for the Galactica.📌 If you haven't seen the extended version, check it out here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fw8XHpXN90Q92EyXmRnu3lwet2Cekps2/view?usp=drive_linkThank you for your support on Patreon!Relax and enjoy 🍿🌿LINK: https://youtu.be/4VwcL_Msk9kI watched the DVD/Blu-Ray version of this film kindly gifted to me!

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Battlestar Galactica | S2 E10 (Extended DVD Cut) | Watch Along

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Fen31

When this episode initially aired I was horrified but relieved that the Chief and Helo got to Sharon in time... When I saw the extended version I was heartbroken to find out they didn't. That's certainly not the only difference, but it's the biggest.

SultanOfSwing

One of the best episodes in the show. Writing, acting, and music all on point.

Dude Longcouch

The phrase is, "The best defense is a good offense." Like in baseball, even if your defense sucks and you allow runs to score, it doesn't matter if your offense is still good enough to score more runs than the other team. So basically she was saying that they were protecting themselves by being proactive about attacking the Cylons.

The Dingo

Amazingly intense

The Dingo

I never saw the show when it came out, but I can see how they would have cut that from the original release. Holy damn

Brad

Thank you, Kali, for all your work with this episode. I enjoyed watching it with you and hearing your breakdown at the end. I bounce this show off of my life experience in the US Navy. They seem to have had a little help with the titles of certain ranks and jobs. I know it seems silly, but the hostile challenge and ID to the Pegasus at the beginning was super cool to me. That's about how a warship interacts with other potential threats at sea over communications. Imagine being blasted by what D said as a harmless fishing vessel lol

M1 Maz

The music. That's all. The music :) Adama's facial expressions and line "We have work to do" while *that* theme plays at the end.... my goodness that's good stuff right there. Bear McCreary aced this one I really like contrasting Cain and Adama. Someone who rules through fear, while the other builds loyalty through inspiration and leading by example. Makes me love Adama's character even more. And also thinking about rules, they exist for a reason - especially in a military environment, sure. But Adama has always worked in those gray areas, and did what needed be done (and was the leader he needed to be) for the given situation. Really great episode! And excited for next week! With this being my first watch of the extended version, the biggest difference I felt was that instead of there being a ton of brand new scenes, the existing ones were allowed to play out longer and breathe. Which for an episode like this where every scene carried so much magnitude, it was very much appreciated!

kaliwali

Ugh, that's a horrifying difference. So heartbreaking and difficult to stomach..

kaliwali

I definitely agree! This episode is up there on my top favorites, 100%

kaliwali

Ahhh okay! I don't watch sports much so I didn't realize it was a universal knowledge thing 😅🤣 But thank you for explaining! Makes sense now.

kaliwali

Ahh, that's an awesome and probably very intense life experience to relate back to! Very cool to hear that warships actually communicate this way and sometimes.. mistakes do happen 😅

kaliwali

Bear McCreary went full HAM on this episode! Absolutely incredible soundtrack that just made each scene hit so intensely. I love the way he makes each moment feel so personal and raw. The genius music along with the incredible acting and writing in this one made it easily a top favorite episode for me! I honestly really enjoyed seeing the contrast between Cain and Adama, too. It made me realize how much differently things could have gone if Cain was in charge from the beginning vs. Adama. Or if Roslin hadn't been there in his ear, several times, begging him to think about things a little deeper. And I looooved this episode for putting me into that headspace. I also love that there was no real huge differences or added scene with the extended version. Just more room for breathe because you're totally right.. This episode needed all of that lol. I'm really nervous about the next two parter! But I can't wait!

MertzRocks

To me it still looks like they were in time - just barely. I'm going with that bc the show never contradicts what I think. If that's a spoiler, it's a necessary one. Sharon was not raped. Still, the attempt is a heinous dick move; and Cain signed off on this! Heinous!

MertzRocks

Several cast members joked, when interviewed during season 1, about Bear's music. "What music? Oh you mean those drums!" was the gist of a lot of them. From season 2 onward, Bear really sank his teeth into the music and it's just stellar right to the end.

McShades

It's hard to tell because so much was happening but in this extended version, I did see him thrusting his hips a few times as they came into the cage to stop them. Soo... That scene was hard to watch.

Robin Holmes

I'm so glad you shared this so I was able to watch with you! I've missed seeing Season 2 on your journey. I love how you caught the terrible dichotomy between the mindsets of the two leaders. Three, technically. One was going for Scorched Earth (Cain), another for Survival (Adama), and another for Hope (Roslin). And how also Adama and Roslin, though it took time, were able to weld together a Separation of Powers and collaboration while Cain became an utter Despot. Cain is on Hate. Roslin and Adama are on Hope and Love. This episode has always struck me as a sci-fi version of William Golding's "Lord of the Flies". I understand you can't do the freebie versions, but I really wish I could watch the next two episodes with you! I watched this series every Saturday when it came out on SyFy! I just had to DVR them.

Brina Blue

I enjoyed your reaction, as always! Here's a few details to help you out as there was a lot of info thrown at you. There are no spoilers! Laird wasn't the Pegasus CAG, he was their Chief that said he used to be a civilian from a ship called The Scylla. The Pegasus CAG was the big guy taking about "espirit de corp" and counting kills back on Galactica's hanger deck with Apollo. Captain Taylor is also the one riding with Apollo in the Raptor. I'm excited about next week! I know you would have loved to binge, but a lot of lore just dropped and it's good for it to sink in a bit (in my opinion, but then I'd watch the whole season if you dropped it at once!)

KJ

This is when the show went to that next level. So intense. And the show was not afraid to hold up a mirror to some of the military abuses of prisoners of war, particularly what was happening in Iraq & Afghanistan, and Guantánamo Bay at the time of filming. The treatment of that Six and that Sharon being unacceptable and utterly wrong is the exact message the show wanted to convey.

Alex

do all of the BSG reactions on Patreon need to be synced with my own subscription?

kaliwali

Yes! It's illegal to put out the full content, so you'll have to sync your own copy :)

kaliwali

I really hope they bring BSG back to another streaming service! I'm sorry you've been missing out on Season 2. It's been absolutely amazing and intense!

kaliwali

Thank you so much for clearing up those things before I jump into the next two episodes today!! There really was SO much information flying around lol. And I totally agree about taking my time to sink into the lore. It's made it so much more enjoyable and easier to process personally! So I'm glad you don't mind I'm doing it this way also! Can't wait to jump into that two parter today!

Brina Blue

I'm not sure if Kali will allow this, but maybe since it isn't on any streaming sites it will be OK. I just double checked and all 4 season of Battlestar Galactica are on 123Movies, https://ww20.0123movie.net/ you just need to make sure to have virus protection and I also use uBlock Origin when I go there for movies.

Donovan Sparks

Thanks for providing the link to the extended version, Kali. One thing you MUST keep in mind when watching this show is that the Cylons are NOT human beings. Repeat... the Cylons are NOT human. They are robots. They have no feelings. They feel no pain. They are programmed with showing the pain and torment to emulate human behavior. They may look beat up and abused, but they aren't because they are just robots. You can cut off an arm, a leg, and it wouldn't hurt the thing. Hell, you can even "kill" it, but it just downloads its memory core to another body... Not really dying at all. They aren't lives, they aren't alive. They are robots with programming. It would be like torturing a vacuum cleaner, or a refrigerator, or your car. So any time you see something happen to a Cylon, it's the same as it happening to your iphone. lol