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These episodes were HEAVY. In the best and most thought-provoking ways. The tension between Admiral Cain and Commander Adama had me holding my breath. Both were willing to kill the other in the name of duty. But their final choice, those quiet moments of restraint, felt even more impactful than any battle. I keep thinking about how Adama has held onto his humanity, even when everything around him said to let it go. But what really amazed me about these episodes were all of the biblical ties. Six's suffering, silence, and then her eventual act of vengeance felt like something straight out of the darker pages of scripture. Baltar, in all of his flaws and desperation, becomes a twisted version of Chris offering mercy to the shamed and broken. Their dynamic definitely mirrored Christ and Mary Magdalene, but it's so distorted in guilt and the raw need to be seen. I'm still trying to process Gaius' pyramid game talk. But right now, I'm leaning more toward it being a way to more deeply connect with Six in a way that said: I see you. You still matter. But I still don't understand why Head Six got upset at this gesture...And then there's Lee and Kara. Both quietly unraveling under the weight of this war. Lee's moment of silence as he decides to drift away into nothing was so heartbreaking to see. I felt like I was witnessing his own spiritual death. His slow slip into something darker, deeper, and colder. And Kara, torn between two commanders and carrying orders she never asked for. Her eulogy to Cain surprised me and, honestly, hurt me. They weren't just for Cain, but also for herself. For the soldier she has turned into. The parts of her soul that she has lost along the way. These two episodes left me with heavy questions. About power. About Redemption. About the quiet, painful cost of surviving. I can't wait to see what the second half of Season 2 brings us next!Thank you for your support on Patreon!Relax and enjoy 🍿🌿LINK: https://youtu.be/RVzlnt9XD70I watched this on Amazon Prime

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Battlestar Galactica | S2 E11 + E12 | Watch Along

Welcome in! Grab a snack and get settled in 🌿 0:00 Intro 2:50 Episode 11 46:50 Episode 12 1:29:56 Thoughts / Review

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Scott S

Looking forward to more BSG! Off-topic, really like your sweater :)

Dave Olden

Looking forward to more BSG as well 😎🙏

Richard

It's always a fun exercise with content that has obvious religious allegory, going through and figuring out which character has a corresponding Bible character/account/message or what not, or maybe not Bible-related but with spiritual themes. Not to mention the importance of wrestling with the existential and moral questions that inevitably ensue - all stuff that's vital for us to reflect on if we want to be the best versions of ourselves. Great job with this series! Side note; I think it's so funny that music reactions keep coming up because it was only a couple weeks ago I was thinking of a playlist of songs for possible Kali reactions :D

The Dingo

My final Kali reaction for the next 3 weeks! (I'm going on vacation) Tonight should be a fun evening of entertainment. As always, thank you for the great entertainment you provide - it really is wonderful to be able to interact with you too. Many creators are non-responsive, and of course we have no contact with other entertainers in general. So yeah, thanks!

kaliwali

Aww thanks! I love how bright and comfy it is too haha

Brina Blue

I loved your deep dive into areas of Christianity that would have honestly said I hadn't thought about in 50 years had you done these two episodes last week, but the Broadway Musical, Jesus Christ Superstar Live from the Hollywood Bowl has been trending all over TikTok this week! My FYP has been filled with Eliza from Hamilton singing "I don't know how to love him" to Jesus as Mary Magdalene reminded me of who she even was to get me ready for your comparison! As for head Six being angry about Gaius using her story, I always felt it was something personal she shared about her previous life and she felt like he was betraying a confidence. I'm sure it was just that you missed that it was head Six's story to begin with that mixed you up.

Joe

Great episodes and reaction. I really appreciate your descriptions of the religious themes that you observe. It is obvious that this show has both directly expressed religious themes and religious allegories also. However, not being Christian, I do not pick up on many of the references. I do pick up on some of the old testament stuff, but just realized the Cain and Abel allegory when you said it. Also, and not that important, the Galactica has a really good model builder on the ship. Cara sends over pictures of the resurrection ship and moments later they are moving around an accurate and to scale model of the ship on the command deck. Secret MVP of these missions.

kaliwali

Yes, totally agre! It's always interesting to unpack those layers, especially with the heavy spiritual undertones that hit on something deeply human. I love that kind of storytelling that leaves my mind turning everything over afterward. Especially when it leads to really deep and existential questions like you said! That's the kind of stuff that I love the most about BSG. And a Kali reaction playlist!? 👀 I feel like I've listened to SO much music because that was my outlet alongside games growing up. Hence why I never really watched much tv/movies! So, I feel like a music reaction channel would be pretty limited for me haha. But I might be surprised! I'd be so curious what's on it! Thanks so much for the kind words and for being a part of this with me!

kaliwali

Ahh, that sounds amazing! I hope you have the best relaxing vacation ✨ I'm not sure why it always surprises me that so many people mention other creators don't really converse on Patreon with their members. Y'all are the reason I get to be here every day doing what I love so I can't help but be grateful and hang out with you in the comments as we all move through different stories! But thanks for the kind words and safe travels to wherever you're vacationing! 🦋

kaliwali

Ahh, that's a crazy coincidence!! That's awesome though! It seems like a very fitting comparison in these episodes, for sure. In a distorted and odd way, but it fits! And as for Head Six being mad.. You're right that it felt like jealousy and betrayal to her. I remember her sharing that story first, so I was wondering why she was seemed upset at Gaius telilng it back to another version of herself. But Head Six has always been VERY jealous. I just wasn't expecting her to be jealous of.. well, herself. 🤣 She told Gaius to help her. To save her. And comforting her on a human level made that healing possible, so I was confused why Head Six was so upset that she was finally freed from her chains. But, makes sense looking back now that it was out of jealousy and feeling betrayed.

kaliwali

Hahaha the secret MVP model builder sent me. So true 🤣👀 Who is the one making these beautiful to scale models?!

Fanchman

I haven't watched part 2 yet, but I think you're kind of misunderstood Kara (Starbuck) in the first episode. She is primarily happy that Admiral Cain agrees with her rescuing the resistance fighters. She is probably not aware of all the atrocities Admiral Cain has committed. Regardless, she is not in a position to refuse to take orders from an Admiral. Those big decisions remain with Commander Adama and the President.

SultanOfSwing

Love your analysis on the symbolism in Battlestar! You are bringing up things that i have never thought about and I'm enjoying it so much.

Brina Blue

I think that's one of the things that they have been starting to show us about the "skin job" Cyons since season 1 though, they aren't the same even though they may look the same. The Sharron that Commander Adams spoke to was not Boomer, even though they said on Kobal that she had accessed some of her memories. The same goes for PegaSix. You'd think head Six would be team Six all-for-one, one-for-all but for whatever reason she isn't and is jealous. We already figured out that part, but to clarify they absolutely are different Six's with unique personalities. Remember seeing more than one of them at once on Caprica?

Richard

Have a great vaca!

Brad

I always wondered what would've happened if Adama's transmission with Starbuck got garbled and it sounded like "Downfall" instead of "that's all". It's a good thing he didn't accidentally use the code word in a sentence either haha.

McShades

IMO, you should watch Razor Movie after episode 17 (The Captain's Hand). Story wise, it fits in nicely. Extended Episodes: Pegasus (s02e10) Unfinished Business (s03e09) A Disquiet Follows My Soul (s04e12) Islanded in a Stream of Stars (s04e18) Daybreak (s04e19 & s04e20)

David T

Love your reactions, and your knowledge of religious comparisons in this series. I believe the show’s creators intentionally blurred the lines between religious, moral, historical, and mythological aspects, and we’re meant to always be second guessing whether a character is good, bad, evil, or something in between. One week we’re led to believe one thing, but the next week we are made to feel the opposite. Humans (and human-like Cylons) are just so unpredictable. Here are some points I’m pondering: 1. Head Six seems to be the same Six that Baltar was sleeping with before the Cylon attack on the colonies. We don’t know what happened to that physical Six model—except that in the miniseries she appears to have been injured or killed protecting Baltar from the blast that destroyed his house. Is Head Six her memory, or maybe a mental representation of her? We just don’t have enough information to know more. 2. I noticed that during the scene with Doc Cottle and Sharon, Adama apologizes to Sharon, and for the first time he refers to Sharon as “her” instead of “it.” Progress? 3. In the scene where Adama invites Sharon to explain to him why the Cylons hate humans, Sharon replies by quoting the exact words from Adama’s decommissioning speech on the Galactica in the miniseries just before the attack. But this version of Sharon wasn’t physically there, was she? Boomer was present—did whatever Boomer saw and heard get transmitted to all the OTHER Sharon models? Obviously this particular Sharon got programmed with ALL of Boomer’s memories, so that her interactions with Helo would be convincing. 4. During the scene where Helo and Galen are talking about their feelings toward Sharon and Boomer, respectively, it made me realize that Helo’s Sharon is essentially what Boomer would have been if she had fallen in love with Helo instead of Galen—and also not been burdened with the whole “secret Cylon in disguise” identity. Sharon knows she’s a Cylon yet has consciously chosen to live among the humans, even if she’s a prisoner. 5. Lee’s mental conflict seems to be due to his innate need to always do what is right—and he seems to feel that the choice to kill Cain was the “wrong” choice morally. Hence his willingness to let go of life when his ship exploded—he didn’t want to live with that choice. 6. Finally, my take on Baltar’s apparent “love” for Pegasus Six seems to be based more than a little on his physical lust—he finally has a physical person again—someone he had an erotic relationship with in the past. He is essentially putting Head Six away—because she only seems to exist in his head, even in the daydreams of sex—in favor of courting this battered version of Six who is fully present and physical. That’s why Head Six is fearful—she sees herself being replaced. And yes, Head Six is clearly jealous as well.

Danny

I guess the cylons don't put windows on their ships. probably a structural weakness?

M1 Maz

This whole three-part saga not only has been some of my favorite BSG that we've seen so far, but it's also some of the best TV in general that I've watched in a while. Everything from a season and a half of character and world building lead to this point. And all the writing, music, and acting was just phenomenal On Cain, I can't ever forgive her for her sins. But I try to put myself in her head to understand. Commanding a battleship in the military, in a constant state of war after the attack, she only knew one thing. Everything was black or white, do whatever it takes to survive. Every horrible act was to assure the survival of her ship. And that continued after the Pegasus joined the fleet. But you hit the nail exactly. Observing Adama, reading his logs, seeing how fiercely he cared about his crew, showed her that there was another way. That survival didn't have to mean destroying everything else around you. And like you said, it makes me reflect on the impact Roslin has had on Adama. That thinking back to mini-series Adama at the beginning, he was ready to full send into battle after the initial attack without second thought. To potentially sacrifice everything to fulfil his duty as the commander of a battlestar Also really appreciate you highlighting all the religious parallels! Something that I'm not well versed enough in to be able to see on my own. So hearing how you all put it together, just gave me even more appreciation for how deep and well written this show is!

Dude Longcouch

Lee floating alone out in space: "Well, here I am." The imagery of him floating alone in the lake really reminded me of Ender's Game (spoilers, I guess?) after Ender breaks from the stress of everything and spends time... well, floating alone in a lake :p It's probably a coincidence but part of me does wonder if there was some deliberate nod there. I think it's a similar causality with Lee; just someone who is tired of fighting and wanted out for a moment. I was very happy to hear the conversation between Adama and Sharon about WHY the Cylons attacked, but I wanted so much more of it. I still have so many unanswered questions about pretty much everything, and I'm starting to worry that things will never be truly clarified. I REALLY want to know more about the true nature of Cylon consciousness, and how being "reborn" after death really works. Sad to see Cain get written off already, but I suppose it was inevitable, with how fiercely she was already clashing with Adama - it was clear they would not be able to coexist for long under these circumstances. Michelle Forbes turned in a really great performance here. I knew her from her role in 24, but I felt like she didn't really get the chance to show off her acting chops in that show, so it was nice to see more of what she was capable of here. She had a lot of presence and made a big impact in her short time on the show. But hey, maybe they'll pull a crazy twist and bring her back somehow (if she was secretly a Cylon, that could easily happen, after all...).

kaliwali

Aww yeah! Maybe I didn't voice myself well enough, but we are on the same thought with Kara in the first episode! I was in the same headspace as what you wrote here. I was just nervous about Cain being seen as 'good' in her eyes knowing behind-the-scenes what she has done.