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I keep saying this show feels different from anything else in the Star Wars universe and this arc is the perfect example of why. It's quiet and methodical one moment, then suddenly suffocatingly tense the next. Every character feels liek they're carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders, and the writing makes even the smallest choices feel monumental.Emotionally, this arc hit me the hardest so far. It captured the cost of rebellion is such a heartbreaking way. You can feel how fragile hope is. How easily it slips through people's fingers when fear, loss, and betrayal enter the picture. The performances in this arc were also unreal. Everyone's acting make me feel like I'm taking a peek inside their soul for a moment.Cassian still isn't the confident rebel we know from Rogue One. Not yet. He's still a man learning that rebellion isn't clean or noble. It's desperate, messy, human. Watching him start to feel the weight of the consequences of lives around him is quietly powerful and genuinely heartbreaking.His growing contrast with Luthen is especially unnerving. Who is right? What's the best way to build a rebellion that actually works? Luthen is so consumed by the idea of resistance that it's slowly eating away at what's left of his own humanity. You can feel that duality in him. The polished performance he puts on for others vs the paranoia that keeps leaking through. Every time he is on screen, there's this wild mix of genius and madness. And Saw is honestly no different. He's the chaotic storm to everyone else's restraint. Even Luthen's. His ideology is pure and radical, and you can see how he's already fracturing away from everyone else. Slipping into his own version of madness and rebellion. What he shared about his own cost of belief and "freedom" was eye opening and heartbreaking. His story in Rogue One hits so much harder with this deeper look into him this arc. This arc devastatingly and beautifully portrayed the weight of rebellion. The way it eats at everyone differently. Some lose faith, some lose themselves, and some (like Cassian) are just beginning to realize what's worth fighting for. See you all in the next episodes!Thank you for your support on Patreon!Relax and enjoy 🍿🌿LINK: https://youtu.be/Y1q6cS40N6QI watched this on Disney Plus

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Andor | Season 2: Episodes 4-6 | Watch Along

Welcome in! Grab a snack and get settled in 🌿 0:00 Intro 2:02 Episode 4: Ever Been to Ghorman? 52:50 Episode 5: I Have Friends Everywhere 1:45:50 Episode 6: What a Festive Evening The Andor Ambience I've been listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaK3MySmLAE Also this as well on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/6qvx9oBfEE8N5KshTZBD81?si=V6vYw7sJQuCY0LjjzxAV1A

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RX2904

Your write-ups are honestly so good. Can't wait for the big one at the end when you wrap up all your thoughts of this amazing show. And if you'd rather speak into the camera for that in an extra recap/review video I will watch.

Dude Longcouch

"We're the rhydo, kid. We're the fuel! We're the thing that explodes when there's too much friction in the air!" One of my all time favorite lines from any show, ever. The writing in Andor is just on another level. The moral complexity, the character motivations, the constant push and pull of relationships, deceit, philosophies clashing... it's all just unbelievably good.

Chris

In a show of all favorite lines, that’s my favorite line. Except for my two other favorite lines. Lol.

Dude Longcouch

It can be hard to pick, there are so many.

Lastboyscout73

I think it's cool that they hired a big group of French actors to play the Ghorman's. They created a language that sounds both French with hints of German in it for the show. The parallels to WWII were obvious to me at least from the very 1st episode of this 3 episode section. It is so well done.

Łukasz Jarczewski

Well, I didn't really like Saw after Clone Wars and Rebels. He annoyed me in those productions. Several good people died because of his arrogance and willingness to fight at all costs. How many times were the heroes doing well, and then suddenly Saw decided to do something on his own and ruin the operation? So, on the one hand, it's good that he died in Rogue One. However cruel that may sound. I remember that I wasn't particularly bothered by it, but the rest of the movie was excellent. Here, Forest shows more of this madness, although in my eyes it still doesn't justify it. But he does come up with some interesting quotes. P.S. By the way, I don't recall Andor knowing Syril by name, so how could he warn them?

M1 Maz

While watching this series, I have to constantly remind myself that this is Star Wars haha, and I love that in the best of ways! This was definitely the arc of amazing speeches! So many powerful, raw, moments of resilience and the fire inside, just amplified by the incredible dialogue. Also really loved Bix's arc through these 3 episodes. Her struggle is so real, and we really got such a close look at how all her past traumas were dragging her down. With the way this one ended, here's hoping that she can begin healing now and we can see her on the up in the next set! Also, Luthen's assistant Kleya was awesome in this one!

Mark Walston

You should put all your Andor write-ups into one post. Its like a collection of excellent essays.

David Perkins

there are a few things i want to say. first and foremost, thank you! you are an awesome watch partner. you're perceptive and smart (mostly!) and you talk just the right amount. with many reactors it's to much or not enough or maybe the conversation is irrelevant. and i know these are are all very much subjective things but i can only speak from personal experience. next, regarding trauma. the thing about trauma is that it is experienced differently by everyone. sure, there are many common factors, but how i respond to an experience identical to yours may be very different indeed. i won't go into detail but, after 28 years, a bunch of therapists and so many meds, i still suffer from flash backs, anxiety and agoraphobia. i will probably experience it for the rest of my life. there's a quote from Mr. Frodo that always affects me emotionally yet explains it well i feel. "How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you begin to understand there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold." . Bix's situation is difficult for me to watch. oddly, i feel closer to her than to Cassian. ooh, another thing people tend to miss while i'm on a roll! the scene where Bix and Cass arrive at the store and Bix says something about she can't sleep and he can't shop. i think it's easy to forget that Cassian is deeply traumatised also. lest we forget, the last time we saw him attempt to go shopping, he ended up in an imperial electrocution torture prison! finally, regarding Lezine. i hope, upon reflection, you can find it in your heart to think a little more kindly of him. consider, he walks into the street, sees something suspicious going on and goes to investigate. remember, he doesn't know the things that we, the audience, know. he is intercepted by someone from a group of people he feels have not been entirely honest with him. he is in a public space and has every right to be there. the dude that tells him to leave has no right to do so. of course this would anger him. the dude, Samm, then pulls a gun on him. Lezine is absolutely within his rights to defend himself. the only person responsible for Cintas death is Samm, who was explicitly ordered to remain unarmed during the mission. he was also clearly told, again, on multiple occasions, to not bother showing up if he felt that he could not follow orders. but for Samms failure to follow orders and the fact that he brought the weapon into play, Cinta would not have been killed. also, really finally, apologies for the disgusting wall of text! danged if i can figure out how to create paragraphs without it ending the message, which i find very jarring!

Marty McGee

Yeah if they couldn't get Jimmy Smits, Benjamin Bratt was a fantastic get! If I were Jimmy though I'd be upset I couldn't be a part of this amazing show.

Marty McGee

Love that Bix got her reckoning at the end of that. The whole Gorhman situation is just tragic. I get all three sides: Cassian's, Luthen's, and the Gohrs'. I think my favorite speech this time was from Vel. She didn't say like, "how could you do this?" or, "I told you no weapons." The kid already knew he f'ed up. Instead she praised Cinta and used her to burn that lesson into him. Beautiful and heartbreaking. I love that we're getting to see what a badass Kleya is. More to come!

Dude Longcouch

Man, these episodes are so dense, there's always so much to talk about. Your reaction to finding out Syril was secretly working with Dedra was amazing. It was like... equal parts impressed and anxious, with just a tinge of disgust 🤣 And what you kept going back to about how everyone has valid points is so spot on. That's one of the most amazing things about the writing; you can fully understand everyone's motivations and they're always logical, with very few contrivances, which is such a rarity in a narrative with this many characters. Interesting to think about how Dedra and Syril are ostensibly the "bad guys," and yet you find yourself identifying with their struggles and rooting for them in a weird, uncomfortable way. And then rebels like Saw and Luthen, who are (more or less) considered the good guys, can still do things that you don't agree with, or seem unethical even in the context of a rebellion, but even then, you still perfectly understand their logic. It's illustrated really well between Cassian and Luthen in this block of episodes. At first you're like, let's go Ghormans, time to fight the Empire. But then you think about how Syril is playing them and Cassian is 100% correct that their "source" can't be trusted, and you start to side with Cassian's point of view that they're not ready and they'll only make things worse. Then Luthen makes some very salient points about how they NEED to get into the fight, even if it gets ugly, because ugly is inevitable and it's all trending that way anyway, and even though you hate it, you know that he's right. And then Cassian counters AGAIN with the "We're not droids" line, and you're just like, god damn it, EVERYONE HAS GOOD POINTS! I also love the ending of this block. With the horrible thing that happened to Bix at the end of episode 3, and then episode 4 starts off showing her still severely traumatized and suffering from night terrors, that was the moment for me where I was like, PLEASE, can one nice thing happen to this lady at some point? And then episode 6 ends with her getting revenge on that monster and reclaiming her power, and it just feels SO CATHARTIC. I could go on for hours, but I'll stop myself here and leave you with this: "Revolution is not for the sane."

MattN

Andor is my favorite show. And while I can’t say whether this is recency bias or not, I am very happy kali is watching it. I didn’t want to comment on the show until it was done in the fear I would inadvertently spoil something, but I wanted to comment on Kali’s apprehension (or maybe annoyance?) around the Maya Pei Brigade. First and foremost, I totally get it. They are annoying, silly, and at the time it seems like they aren’t even doing anything for the overall narrative. But I remember Tony Gilroy is a student of history and how he relied heavily on real revolutions and moments during revolution to help him write this. Often in film or television, we are just presented with the “good guys” & “bad guys”. In the Star Wars movies, you see the “good guys” (the rebels) as a cohesive movement where everyone is fighting for the same cause, have the same motivations, and all work together. But real life is way messier than that. If you look at historical resistance movements like in Angola, Ireland, Haiti, Iran, even the US, it is always fractured groups vying for power or influence. To me, the Maya Pei Brigade illustrated one of those fractured groups that lacked experience or direction and the danger in that. We see that in the lack of experience with the Ghorman Front the next year, or hardened extremist from Saw Gerrera. We even see this in the motivations of the rebels. Go back to season one and look at the ideologically driven Nemik or credit(materialist) driven Skeen(or Cassian for that matter). To me the Maya Pei Brigade just showed me how fractured the rebellion could be without strong leadership and the dangers when those individual motives butt heads like they did there.

Dude Longcouch

It's also very interesting to see how much Vel has grown since season 1. She led the Aldhani Heist, and all through those episodes, we could see her struggling to find her leadership voice. She put on airs but you could tell she was always shaky, and lacked confidence. Her plan wasn't even fully formed until Cassian (luckily) offered to fly the transport. And she was so anxious, she almost couldn't find the courage to call "go" when the time came. But now we see her taking charge, being confident. Making the plan, executing the plan. And even when the most horrible thing happened and she lost the person she loved because some jackass kid couldn't follow orders, she didn't lose her composure; she finished the mission and then made sure the lesson landed home. She has grown so much during this rebellion and it's a big testament to Faye Marsay's acting chops that she changed her entire demeanor to illustrate that growth between seasons.

Dude Longcouch

On the topic of trauma, it's also interesting to note that Luthen seemed to have firsthand experience with Bix's "medicine," telling her that it would stop the dreams but they would come back worse when she stopped. From this, it would seem Luthen has dealt with trauma of his own in the past. Mysterious!

RP

Let’s go! I have to say that I have watched many reactors to this show, and yours is the best I’ve seen on many different levels. Natalie Gold, Funnylilgal, Blind Wave, CinePals, The Normies, all good but yours is the best. Schedule, connection, comprehension, empathy, emotion, timing , and you pay attention 100% instead of getting lost in your own responses. Cudos to you. I have a list of stuff I hope you get to but I’ll pester you later with those. The great shows are imminently rewatchable, and you enhance the experience. Thank you. 🍻

Calu

In order to launch a successful rebellion - especially against an enemy this formidable - you need all of the pieces. You need your puppet masters that play the long game in the dark (Luthen), your need your moral leaders to keep their hands clean (Mon), you need your capable soldiers willing to risk it all for the cause (Andor, Bix, Vel, Cinta, Wilmon, Kleya), you need your moles on the inside (Lonny), and most importantly, you need your wildcards and chaos agents (Saw).

Calu

Also, KALI coolers for everyone!!! 😜

Other Chris

I LOVE that they show the light flashing in the tower before they go take out Gorst. It says so much about Luthen to give Bix and Cassian that mission and it’s an absent scene. They didn’t need to explain to us why Luthen wants her to do it, or how he’s decided to accept Andor’s ultimatum to help them be together, or where Luthen got the intel, or why it’s imperative for the rebellion to remove such a successful interrogation program. The writers just had to show the elements being primed and then show us a blinking light. The writers do an amazing job of “show don’t tell” and it elevates everything. Theres an art to storytelling without over-telling. To trust the audience to fill in the absent scenes and still feel the right emotions. Why can’t more shows do this so well!

kaliwali

Thank you so much!! I'm glad you enjoy them as much as I love writing them 💚

kaliwali

Ugh I totally agree. And I feel you all on favorites lines lol. There are SO many incredible lines and words of wisdom in every single episode that it's hard not to come out of each one with a line or two that really resonates.

kaliwali

I didn't realize they did that for the casting. Honestly genius idea! And yes, the parallels to WWII were very obvious and intense. Definitely why I got choked up a few times while they were panicking in the meeting, hearing their past, and seeing just how powerful the Empire is and how they plan to use that power. Devastating..

kaliwali

Its funny you mention the set because as I was watching I remember asking myself how they filmed this. A set vs CGI or whatever. Very cool that they built this up and did it so beautifully! And Saw's speech shook me too. At first I couldn't comprehend what I was hearing. Once it all hit me, I also scared the heck out of me as well. Realizing that Revolutions really are built from the insane.. From the broken and beaten that finally have lost it. I definitely look at Saw differently in Rogue One now because of it. I love how much it added to his entire character. But in such a haunting and raw way that really puts into perspective what a revolution is..

ButtercupsTrueLove

I want to express my gratitude for Faye Marsay's performances in "Andor", and in Netflix's "Adolescence", as well as her earlier work in "Game of Thrones" as Arya Stark's nemesis, The Waif. She brings a wealth of experiences to these dramatic roles but these characters are quite a contrast to her enthusiastic explanations of her character motivations and promotion of these shows.

Chris

One thing worth clarifying--you were saying if only they told Cassian Syril's name as their insider--it wouldn't have mattered. They were briefly face-to-face in 1x3 when Cassian disarmed him, but that wasn't an interaction that would've been meaningful to Cassian--he was just a Corpo with a blaster at that point. And since then, yeah, no reason he'd be on anyone's radar screen. Part of why he's such a good choice for the role.

kaliwali

I get that about Saw. I think in Rogue One I was also kind of annoyed (for lack of better terms) by him because of his constant back and fourth, seemingly cowardice, and overall hard to read personality. But this episode totally unlocked every reason why he responds the way he does. Why he is so all over the map. It makes his entire personality so tragic, twisted and dark. And I guess that's true about Syril? If he would have seen him with his own eyes that would have thrown up flags, but for both sides haha

kaliwali

Same with the Star Wars reminder! I still can't believe it's in the same world sometimes. Its the fun ship battles and blasters that snaps me back into 'wait. this IS star wars!' lol And I agree about Bix's arc. I feel so much for her and can't imagine what's rattling around in her brain. Enough darkness to make constant drug use a necessity just to make it through... But I love that she got to take down her trauma first hand. I hope she can find some much needed healing now too! It's funny because at first I didn't really now how to feel about Kleya. She felt pushy, rude and sharp. But over these episodes I totally understand her. She is just as much a die hard rebel as Luthen and does everything/anything to keep their vision safe and alive. I love her too now haha

kaliwali

Very true and a really good point!

kaliwali

YES. I honestly didn't put it together right away, but the light was for Bix. To finally give her some peace of mind after dark trauma that clearly still haunts her. He needs her healthy and stable. Thank you for helping me realize the significance of that beacon and how Luthen tied into all of it! And I agree.. I could watch this show forever! I wish they would make more Star Wars like this.

kaliwali

Woah, that's a huge compliment especially considering how small I am to all of those awesome reactors! I really really appreciate the kind words 💚 I'm really excited to keep going with all of these awesome shows and movies! I was always way more into gaming and music to ever really take a chance on getting into movies or shows so it's been eye-opening to see how much I've missed out on haha. Excited to watch more with you all!

kaliwali

Yes for sure! Even though those episodes were a bit slow, frustrating, and I guess annoying.. I totally get that it was all about setting the tone at how disconnected the rebellion groups are. How far away they are from where they need to be to make it work, to make a difference, to be successful in their vision. Thanks for the awesome breakdown and even real life parallels.. I see all of them too and I think that's why I got so teared up at watching what is happening to the Gormans. It's so tragic in this story, but also so real to what we have seen in history and even today.

kaliwali

The struggle with finally seeing Deadra and Syril as ordinary people with struggles this Season rocked me as well. You said it perfectly. It's definitely like an "uncomfortable" feeling actually rooting for them in a weird way lol. And I'm not really sure how I've watched so many documentaries, films and media about revolutions and what makes them start. But it took Saw's intensely chaotic speech about Revolution that made it click that yes... "Revolution is not for the sane" 🔥

kaliwali

I love that Bix finally got some revenge as welll! She arc has been so painful to watch since the beginning of this season. And I totally agree about Vel's lines in this one after losing Cinta to idiocracy. She didn't show any sign of weakness still even in that moment. She used it as a deeper, darker lesson to the kid that this will haunt him and to let it. Definitely beautiful and heartbreaking! Thanks for sharing!

kaliwali

Thank you so much for the kind words!! (Except for the "mostly" smart comment LOL). But honestly the balance of talking and reacting is something I try to be mindful about so I'm glad that it feels right now! I know there have been a few reactions from my very beginning of reacting where I talked WAY too much. I came from streaming/gaming so I was used to constantly talking to fill the silence to keep people engaged lol. That's very different than reacting and it took a lot of constructive criticism on YouTube to realize that lol. You're absolutely right about trauma and how it lives differently in all of us. What you share about your own experience really takes courage and I want you to know that. I've always loved that Frodo quote and it also lives in my heart. It captures that sense of loss and slow healing so painfully and personally well. Some hurts really do take hold and you're not alone in that 💚 I also get what you mean about Bix. She is a raw, human mirror of what manifesting pain looks like. And really great points about Cassian! His line about shopping definitely connects back to his prison experience and it adds so much weight to it. Genius writing. And regarding Lezine, you're definitely right and he didn't have the context we did as the audience. He was out for a stroll and the situation escalated because something intense was going on in a town that he clearly loves. Especially after hearing his speech in the underground meeting. I didn't mean to throw any shade his way. The entire Cinta situation was tragic and should have never happened. That weight definitely falls on Sam and any thoughts that maybe I was throwing that weight on Lezine was just poor communication on my part. Thank you for taking time to write all this and for trusting me with your thoughts! To me, messages like this remind me why these stories and conversations matter so much. So I appreciate that!