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The gang somehow got sidetracked for basically the whole show on Sydney Sweeney. Brief discussion of my new publication NLRB Edge at the end.

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Tyler Sambucci

A controversial topic but it’s a conversation that needs to be had. Looking forward to listening

TC

Sydney's Sweeneys

TC

Apropos of nothing, my brother worked on Euphoria and said she was by far the most well-adjusted, nicest cast member.

Nick Cee

Overall she seems cool. Though I was wondering "who is this for?" when she did that music video with The Rolling Stones.

NYCM&AHole

Can you get me her number?

Surna

Since trans kids and Aaron Bushnell came up in conjunction I will say that there's some evidence Bushnell was trans-adjacent. The self-immolation was streamed under the name 'LillyAnarKitty', lilly is a popular chosen name for trans women and the trans anarchist cat girl is a Contrapoints stock character. They also found Bushnell's reddit account was active in some trans subreddits, and posted 'One Day I hope to be like you' in response to an air force service member coming out as trans.

Jack Brownfield

It ain’t much but it’s honest work meme but it’s just Liz being sus

Caitlin Still

No wonder his reddit history had him getting all bent out of shape over stuff like fatphobia

Deimy Chavez

wasn't sure what matt + liz were getting at with the trans kids comment? is the idea behind it that trans kid suicide is inflated in the media/used as blackmail for pro-trans reasons, and thus its bs that people responded to that immolation by being Concerned about the media talking about suicide (I know the first part is a claim other commentators like singal have made)? no hate at all, was just confused as to what the claim was

K J

“It’s like a ‘loh—kí- -repuhlsive’” beg.@~1:10:40 or so be an the utmost truth. +Respect —“ done signed y’all up “

Azmarino

Shocking that Mr Bruenig doesn’t wear linen shorts from osklen as a shout out to the ancient loincloth!

TS + KL

I'm with Liz, I don't know who likes those Brodies.

Azmarino

On the topic of “types”, I work a job that involves brushing shoulders with tech/Silicon Valley guys and there’s an inside joke that enjoys bipartisan popularity with my fellow zoomers that sates u can tell right wing from left wing dudes based on “physiognomy checks”. So the story goes, right wing dudes are more jacked with bigger pecs/shoulders and forearm girth is considered a “dead giveaway” whereas left wing dudes are more skinny fat wid curly jewfros. The new, hot zoomers in tech (that Marc Andreessen has been lovin’ on) are the “El Segundo boys”, they’re explicitly Christian as well as very right wing(they like 2 be edgy) and alotta them are built like the models on the covers of dark romance novels.

Norman X. Picklestein

We need to get Tunisia a robust welfare state stat ... in order for Matt to learn where it is (and how it is not Lebanon)

Otto Laakso

"Eva Mendes, as far as I can recall, has big tits" perfect, no notes

thebruenigs

Liz's argument, mostly rejected by Matt, was that the claim that we shouldn't talk about the self-immolation because we should never talk about suicide because it will cause people to do it is hard to take seriously because we already talk about suicide a lot, e.g. there are articles about trans suicides all the time and nobody objects really.

Orb

Trying to imagine Matt in 7 inch inseam shorts lol

Otto Laakso

Liz should read Bad City by Paul Pringle. A really entertaining true tale of a super-smart professor totally destroyed by horniness (tbh it's darker than that, but then again, these cases almost always are). Also a great heroic journalist vs. corrupt establishment-type story

Christian Hunt

Solidarity to all us talls on the left. A political grouping historically dominating by dwarfs. Whenever there's an SNL discourse, I'm totally lost because I have never seen an episode.

KMB24

I'm a Sydney Sweeney child teeth truther now

Charles Sapienza

No mention of pre-lib Sanna Marin as an ex-crush? Curious how/if the American mind handles European hotness.

Jacob Stevens

Disappointed there was almost an hour on Sidney Sweeney but no discussion of the meta commentary that boobs are conservative and ass is socialist

Christian Hunt

Re: suit chat, contemporary suit fashion is horrid for reasons Matt hits at, they're too tight. Ready to wear suits are too tight to wear but bigger guys can absolutely wear suits. You'd just need it to be tailored.

JohnG

Love the Liz, Lilith Crane, pod voice. I want to be able to buy audiobooks in that voice. It's soothing. It's professional. It sounds authoritative and knowledgeable. Hearing that customer service, please a man, voice, makes me want to jump out a window.

JohnG

Matt, if your brain ever gets into that rut state again, where it doesn't have something to focus that big brain on, a reminder that you once suggested doing a series on the functional workings of the USSR. It would not be any kind of common socialist take on what was good or bad about the USSR, but just the working of it. How are resources allocated at each level of bureaucratic structure from ore extraction to machine tools to consumer items to housing to food, etc. I will also remind you that if you do this, I'm willing to pay a lot extra for it, either create a new tier, or sell it in its own. This is information I've collected over time, so I have some of it, but I need it all run through the Matt brain and then regurgitated.

Sarah Camino

Re: Liz’s highly relatable yet distinct tastes in men and women, “I love the dialectic”

thebruenigs

I was just arguing there are /good reasons/ to cover suicide (i.e., the coverage of suicides of trans kids) that the media already accepts, and therefore the attempted media blackout on bushnell on the grounds that coverage would encourage suicide is disingenuous. Matt argued that there's a difference between covering suicide and glorifying suicide, and I argued it doesn't matter if suicide coverage is glorifying suicide or not, it still has a contagion effect. (I appear to be correct: https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m575) But that doesn't mean the media shouldn't cover it when there are good reasons to cover it, imho. That was the substance of the argument.

Josh B

Enjoyed the chat about attraction, though it's very depressing how all these ultimately low-stakes differences in aesthetic taste get instantly coded as political preferences. High school clique-ass approach to politics. As Comrade Matt has written, "Let a thousand flowers bloom."

Alyssa Noth

‘It’s all wins as long as the tock keeps ticking’ is the best parenting advice I’ve ever heard.

Ryan Reynolds

Would love to hear matt’s thoughts on the menswear twitter guy given the fashion discussion in this ep. I feel they have a shared ethos re: posting, but… radically different values re: clothing

Kyle Stokinger

I unironically love how everyone thinks they can own their political enemies by talking about Sidney Sweeney’s chest.

Tim Masterson

Has Matt ever considered going for the Business Cowboy look? Like a sport coat, no tie, boots, and a cowboy hat.

KMB24

Loved Liz's observation that the tiddy provokes such strong feeling men assume it must *~*MEAN*~* something. From Helen of Troy to frat guys in bar parking lots. Thus has it ever been.

Stinky Pete

Weird how the right wing always finds a way to say "my thing isn't allowed to exist unless the other thing is completely excused from public life"

Joey Trimboli

Like Liz I too am disgusted that I have to feel newly (even more so than before) like a potential terrorist target because the U.S. has gone so hard for Israel. We’ve legitimized their argument that Gazans voted for Hamas and therefore they’re also Hamas or whatever, so basically endorsing the mirrored position that we all voted for our string of shitty governments and therefore are ourselves legitimate targets. It’s pretty infuriating.

M

Since it came up explicitly: yep: this ep went off. Great. They’re all great, sure. But this ep, specifically, was conspicuous and that conspicuousness was meaningfully to do with its being great. Thanks.

Molly McC.

On the Adrian Brody vs Adam driver convo. I’m so confused because they are the same type. I mean the exact same

Sarah

in the face yeah but adam driver could throw me across a room and adrian brody looks like he would weep if i asked him too

Sarah

i can definitely hang with that sort in a painterly way but not husband material due to lack of upper body strength

Sarah

is being a short gal maga-coded? because we appear dominable? or simply because tall goes with willowy and short goes with buxom?

thebruenigs

i could beat the shit out of adrian brody. adam driver is built like a fucking fridge. he has his skinny moments, which suck, but when he's actually bulked up and carrying some body fat, he's close to ideal.

Joey Trimboli

I short circuited and had to Google what Adam Driver looks like because I kept picturing Adrian Brody

Kevin C

Liz just naming busty celebrities for five minutes is an All Time The Bruenigs Moment