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Audio Grab Bag; Trump's Beginnings; Pope v. Vance (Patreon)

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2025-02-12 01:06:39
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Warbs

Let's go!

Sam

i will listen to this tomorrow, but i just wanted to say that i have been more interested in hearing what matt has to say about all of this elon/trump stuff more than any other public figure.

Josh

Great ep. thank you

TC

I love how that argument Liz had with Dasha on twitter about sedevacantism has since gone viral several times whenever a new cohort discovers it. "Not in the Latin rite unfortch" is one of those phrases that's always rattling around in the back of my brain lol

Whitey

Idk gang, seems kinda sad if you're not having a fart and a laugh with yer kids. You have to wonder if, on your deathbed, you will be comforted by the fact that you were the one holding the line against the toots.

Josh B

Loved the takedown of the online tradcath right to complement previous takedowns of the right-wing “populist” policy program. Eagerly awaiting Liz’s full piece delineating her Catholic socialism from the weirdos she’s unfortunately (and unfairly) often lumped in with.

Sean Noah

Matt: the GPT embedding model Ada 002 is cheap and fast. I've gotten embeddings for 2.2M sentences overnight for less than $20. And they are really good: ~1500 dimensions and they capture subtle semantic content very well. I've used the dimensions as features in a regression-based classifier model and trained it to >80% accuracy with a training set of 10,000 labeled vectors for multiple use cases. And as the cherry on top you can use a GPT4 API call to automate the labeling process for the training set.

Luke Mayville

Lol “yes Socrates…indeed Socrates”

Andrew

I want to slightly steel-man one aspect of Lina Kahn's position on ML / big tech innovation, even though I largely agree with Matt. I did an internship in ML research at Google around the time when the transformer architecture was invented, and I think it's actually kind of misleading to say that "Google" made it. The researchers they employ have pretty similar incentives as researchers in academia (despite their larger salaries) -- they're in constant clout competition with every other other ML researcher everywhere to generate ideas and get them published in top-tier academic conferences. Instead of thinking about Google as a separate entity, I think it makes more sense to think about ML researchers (at least back then) as being part of their own little economy whose currency is first-authorships, with the entities funding them just incidental. If you think about it that way, then Lina Kahn is sort of right -- this innovation emerged from intense (though very collaborative) competition between lots of small indy proprietors (in this case academic PIs). If you look at the actual _products_ Google has released, which are subject to a lot more internal bureaucratic process restrictions / much more insulated from competition, I do think they've slowed down a ton since getting really big. To me the key insight is that it's pretty good to get a bunch of independent people/small groups motivated to tackle big multifaceted problems in parallel, with periodic communication but without too much centralization. You can get that through economic markets with small players but you can also get it other ways, like through academic research groups + conferences, state-run contests, or communities of hobbyists.

Sarah Camino

As a Catholic convert in part won over by the church’s illiberal ism, I look forward to being one of the 12 people to read Liz’s forthcoming piece

Ian H

I mean even setting aside the interpretation of the theological doctrine of "ordo amoris", I feel like situationally Vance's argument doesn't work on it's own terms either. Like, if we're talking about people in danger of being deported/fucked with by ICE, they're definitionally not in Patagonia, they're residing in the US, and there are very few neighborhoods in this country where at least a few undocumented/unauthorized migrants aren't living or working. Add to that the fact that most of them, or at least a plurality, are co-religionists of the ostensibly Catholic Vance, and we're talking about a group that almost certainly includes not just neighbors, but fellow parishioners. If your circle of care doesn't extend to the end of the fucking pew then the gospel doesn't seem to be doing you much good.