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Looking for suggestions via Patreon rewards

  • keep indivudial doodles and current bonus comic system 96
  • move individual doodles to a higer tier and add more bonus comics 215
  • I have another idea and will comment 26
  • 2022-01-31
  • 337 votes
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Hi everyone! So I am looking for some suggestions. I have been browsing through  exit surveys and want to improve everyone's experience here. 

One of the main complaints I have noticed is lack of rewards; which I would like to address first . A lot of my time is taken by making individual doodles rather than making patron exclusive comics . Since I do try to have new content 5-6 days a week on all platforms, its hard to keep up. However, since you all are literally paying my salary, I would like to know what you would prefer. I am open to anything and looking for constructive criticism, please. 

I would appreciate if you could give me your input on how to go forward!


PS.  I would like to note since I got a lot of this as well- the NSFW comics will remain a higher tier and will not include hubs.  This is something that we agreed on since I'm not under a pseudonym and want privacy for our relationship. I appreciate the understanding on that. 

Comments

Paul Madsen

Honestly I’d like to see you post all of your content here on Patreon, I have trouble finding it on other streams, and I gave up Instagram because META is evil.

Biofoot78

You can't force art through a fire-hose. Keep the content for at where you can sustain it for a career

Charlotte Dowling

I would be happy with the same amount of content but more early releases on here. I see all of your posts on Instagram anyway, but sneak peaks on here would be nice. I do love the wallpapers on here :)

Feline

That’s indeed a good suggestion. I follow them in Instagram, but I figure that it would be nice to have it here too.

Lyss

If you move individual doodles to a higher tier you could ask tho Patrons to give you a one word prompt for their doodle so it's more personalized

Colleen K-W

For me, I don't think that I ever got a doodle, but I don't care. I am a patron because I support your work and talent. Keep the NSFW as a higher tier and post all work here, as a one stop shop for top tier patrons. Like mentioned above, social media platforms are pushing video and penalize still comic work.

Greg Dombroski

Agree with what others have said keep with whatever pace allows you to put out the quality you have. Random question; where do we find our random doodle? Don’t think I’ve ever seen it and assume I missed it thanks!

Grengar(Sean)

Do whatever you feel you need to do. I'm here to support you not to get anything extra

The Reddot

that's a great idea. TBH, its hard to come up with so many random doodles. Thank you for the suggestion

Elk of Legend

I subscribed because I hoped to get all the content you usually post on Reddit or whatever in one simple place (I usually read it in the update emails) all the while giving you some well deserved tip. Works good for some of the other content creators that i follow. And you will never get me onto Instagram or whatever, sorry.

The Reddot

For sure. My thought is making a shift from one aspect to another in terms of weight.

The Reddot

Early relases is a great idea and something I can make available to all patrons

Patrick Brown

Yes, perhaps we “pay your salary” but that’s because we enjoy the creativity that you display so well… and especially now that I know JUST how much it takes to produce your art, doing things as the spirit moves you is good for me. If you feel it’s in the best interests of you and hubs to make a change in how you provide content, that’s all the answer anyone should need!

The Reddot

Alright! This will be a thing starting tomorrow. It will probably be posted in the evenings (PST time) but at least 16 hours before going wide. I may be shifting to a M-W-F/weekend posting schedule so that may also influence how early things are posted. (Meta sucks)

Maria Margaret

Honestly do you first (maybe the hubs next…lol) and I’d go with putting doodles on a higher tier. That might be less stress on you and makes the person getting it feel more special. For here…something that might be fun is doing a Q&A once a month or so like you do on Instagram, but this one is just for patrons.

James Antill

More consistent Backgrounds? Maybe some avatars? I'd move doodles higher too, and maybe restrict it by time of sub.

The Reddot

Oh don't be sorry! I know so many people turned off IG and personally I only use it now for the comic. So far the early consensus is to post all content here plus rewards so I am happy to do that for you guys. My thought process before was not to spam everyone with the same content.

The Reddot

I love doing what I do and I know how fucking lucky I am to do it, so getting y'alls input is important to me. And Patrick I know you have been a VERY long time supporter so thank you for sticking it out with me.

Frank

How about a single reaction gif (yes I'm old) every month?

The Reddot

Thank you Sean! That means alot in itself but if I can do more, don't be afraid to bring it up.

The Reddot

I will send you one within an hour. I have missed people in the past because I do it in large cycles but have started to work on them daily so I don't.

Colleen K-W

Don't worry about a doodle. I joined when you had a day job and a doodle wasn't a big concern. I'm just glad that you have been able to make this a full time job

The Reddot

I send them to your email address you provided to Patreon! I remember sending yours since you have a last name same to a friend in college. Since I send an attachment sometimes they get flagged. I will resend yours. :)

Samuel young

Just do what most artists do, prints. Make a series of comics exclusively for this platform, but individually signed. Keep the reproduction of them low (say 90/100). That way you keep them rare, but don’t panic about doodles/ or sell doodles in a well higher tier.

The Reddot

That's a great suggestion, maybe do a live stream to answer them.I think it may be time to move the doodles as well. I did 200 individual doodles this month and although I appreciate each one, it gets hard and I worry about quality.

The Reddot

I've been wanting to turn shit into gifs for a while now.

The Reddot

I've been meaning to look into prints and the hardware to produce that kind of thing so it has some decent quality. The same with offering pins. Its the buying in bulk that is scary.

Steve the Writer

My demands are incredible low. I take what you are willing and capable to give since I'm here to support you, not to get any advantage.

J.R. Murdock

Would be cool for Patreons to get some simple behind the scenes stuff that those who only go to Social Media don't get. I support what you do, but would be nice to have exclusives for those who support with they wallets and not just likes :-)

Samuel young

I’m by no means suggesting you buy the equipment. Maybe just speak to a printing house and see what it would cost to reproduce 90 of the same comic, then sign them and sell them. I mean, people sell farts in jars, so surely a talented artist like you could unload 90 prints in a small time?

The Reddot

Oh man, hearing that chick making bankk on that made me pause for a second lol

The Reddot

I can do that! Would you prefer speed drawings or idea process? I put out a video today showing how I animate comics. I just need to be pointed in the right direction

Amanda Balaguer

I am very happy with the content I am receiving. I think the amount of comics is great. I usually need a comic a day to make me smile. I didn't join this to get stuff from you. I joined because your work makes me happy.

Hammond of Texas

I didn't know the doodles were a thing and never looked for one 🤔 They are not necessary IMO. Something I have seen other creators do is offer "early access" to patrons a day in advance of content posted the next day to Twitter, etc. Have you thought yet of a printed book (probably)? Maybe keep the Dot account on Insta but move the Kim reels to Patreon.

Lucas Lord

What about keeping the "introduction" doodle, but instead of a brand new one for each person, you make a really good one, say, each month for new people and personalize it? Maybe Dot saying a message to that person? Or you do a short animation with you personally doing a voice over thanking that person for joining? Then putting the extra time into more content for higher tiers?

Hiba Ghalayini

You don't need to do add anything because you deserve to be paid for what you already do.

The Reddot

I have thought of a book but I think if that were to happen I would need to do a kickstarter. Doing "mature" humor, I think I turned off any would be publishers. Or they hate my style... Either/Or at this point lol

Paul Garaventa

What are your thoughts on creating a serialized comic for higher tiers? Like you tell a story over the course of a month or few months.

Greg Dombroski

Thank you so much! 100% believed I had just missed it. Happy to keep supporting you

Jay Detmer

I can't imagine it's cost effective to draw & send custom doodles at the $1 tier - would you expect a custom piece of art for $6 (half a year's membership)? It sounds like it's adding stress to the already nerve-wracking transition to self employment. If you want to keep it for all tiers, maybe prioritize higher tiers and use that to upsell people - more money for Dot to roll around in like a sexy Scrooge McDuck!

Dave Reed, Book Shaman®

The fantasy of being your sugar daddy is sufficient for me. 🥰 I’m here to support what you were already doing with your pubic, er, public comic. You don’t need to do anything “extra,” IMO. 💝

J.R. Murdock

Anything you'd prefer to make. The process is a blast and I love time-lapse art as well as just talking through the process. Perhaps even a weekly "come watch me draw" live stream.

Chris

I really don't need anything. I just like supporting a great artist.

Scott Bales

I think you, and all your patrons, need to keep in mind the economics of the situation. You’re offering personalized doodles at the $1/month level. People could cancel after the first month; worst case, you’re selling personalized art for $1. Even at minimum wage, that’s less than 8 minutes pay. I’m guessing these take a bit longer, and your time is worth a lot more than that anyway.

Scott Bales

I think the personalized doodles need to be at a higher support level, and even then if Patreon support is maintained for three months or more. As a “thank you” level gift, I think a standard doodle, personalized with the patron’s name via Photoshop, is a more appropriate time commitment from you.

Scott Bales

As far as additional rewards, I’d love to see the option for commissions for Patrons - but that being a patron only gives you access to the service, and additional fees (reflective of your time and artistry) are required.

Scott Bales

Even a 5x7 print ($3 at CVS) would be a wonderful reward if signed. But, there’s the time and cost commitment of mailing, so the reward tier would have to be appropriate. Maybe at a $20/month level, one signed print/month, voted on by patrons at that level? Higher levels get larger size prints? I don’t know how many people would like multiple signed comic prints. I would.

Christopher Murray

I agree that personalized doodle should be a higher level. I want you to have more time to focus on your general work instead of individual things that don’t grow your brand as much. I love your comics and realize I’m not seeing them on Insta anymore. Are your daily comics in a mailing list for for subscribers / supporters? (I might have missed that too. And I’m gonna increase my support not for rewards. I just hope you’re successful at this and you deserve to get PAID!

Aria Kay

Tbh, as cool as it would be to eventually get a personal doodle, focus on what's gotten you here so far, which is your excellent comics. It's also worth mentioning that not all of your rewards need to be in the form of brand new original content. You can produce like vinyl stickers or something in bulk and send those out to patrons. Oh, and I definitely support the idea of posting all your work here. I deleted Instagram a while back and have been missing your work 😭

Ben

Have you thought about posting your daily comics on Patreon as well? I realize it's another platform to post to but then you can guarantee getting through to your patrons. I agree with doodles being a higher tier. Keep striving, you're awesome!

Aurellie

I join in on the ones saying to post all of your comics on here :) it would be nice to have this as your "library" as well. Also I have to join in with the ones saying that I don't think I ever saw my own personalised doodle. I also saw you answering that these mails often get flagged. Could you maybe resend it, if possible? It's not super important to me, but I'd be honoured 😊♥️

Paul Madsen

Thanks Meta has already ruined my relationship with my in-laws, I don’t want it to do the same to my comics.

Martin McCarrick

Doodles up to a higher tier for sure - takes pressure off you to get them done. I did not get one either but I joined to support you not for the doodle :-). Other Patreon’s that I support post content up early but mainly for me it’s about it being in one place. Meta is bad but gmail makes some odd decisions on what I should see too so I used to miss daily comics and if it’s an arc your out of the loop quick. Patreon allows me to go to one place to see them all together.

Rebecca Decker

Seems like a lot of people aren’t getting the personal doodle (I don’t think I got mine) but also join just to support you! I would like any content you could share - bts, Timelapse drawings, blog posts, pics of your dogs, weekly recipe you are tackling, whatever!. But really I’m here because you already make so many things for IG and you deserve to be paid for that content. And here is how I can help out there.

David Woo

Another artist, comic books, would offer a drawing of the patron with his character(s) for specific donations. I would prefer more bonus comics and the option of having my image with your characters. Something like a once a year on anniversary date of becoming your patron at the right level. The doodle was neat to receive, but not what made me support you.

Shay McCaw

I'm just here to help at the level I can. I love my little doodle, and I love knowing I'm helping you live your creative life. Anything else is fine, but capitalism is a pox on all of us.

William Hanson

I also vote for posting all comics/non-video content here too. I prefer not to have to go to multiple locations to find all of your FANTASTIC work!

Absynthe

I became a patron to support you in making art, and a living thereby. For myself, I'm content to enjoy what you make without a need for anything special, or above and beyond what you're already publishing publicly. (With the exception of the NSFW content that I think is only published on Patreon?) It would be nice if the various content you put out on different platforms were aggregated here for patrons, as I'm a lazy shit.

Justin Clowater

Not sure if this is the place to mention this, but I never did get a doodle when I joined back in July. Or a Patreon shoutout on IG (which I think should be moved to a higher tier).

Justin Clowater

Maybe a reward of seeing more in progress stuff and behind the scenes? Or a monthly Q&A session in a livestream while working on doodles/dinner?

NeedlessWoodchuck

thread to say "Seconded" starts here ⬇️❤️

Chris Schwinger

If Instagram no longer shows your work I would add it here.

Guillermo

I'll join in on those saying work in progress, behind the scene work, or Idea generation would all be great to see. But things that you're already doing so that it doesn't add to mucho the workload of creating the comic. Keep up the great work.

Ender

going to echo what others have mentioned and say that the doodles should be a higher tier due to the amount of time it takes for you to generate your artwork. The sheer number of patrons makes such an impossible backlog and explains why a lot of people have commented about not getting theirs (same here, but unimportant to me). The doodle is definitely not why I signed up, I always get a chuckle out of your work and the combo of innocent (cartoon base) and naughty is always a winner. Sorry that Instaspam is screwing over actual content creators in favor of idiots who copypasta TikTok junk, I'd much rather support you here rather than give Meta views.