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In today's episode, by popular request, the girlies invite you to go back in time, deep into the drama archives as they discuss the messy downfall of the commentary YouTuber, Creepshow Art aka Shannon Campbell. But while Shannon's career appeared to implode in a matter of days, it was actually the culmination of YEARS of her own problematic behavior that was finally exposed and ultimately lead her abandoning her channel and leaving the internet for good. (or did she...)

Here is the "Dreading" google doc

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[Bonus Ep 19] The Downfall of CreepShow Art: How She Ruined Her Own Career

In today's episode, by popular request, the girlies invite you to go back in time, deep into the drama archives as they discuss the messy downfall of the commentary YouTuber, Creepshow Art aka Shannon Campbell. But while Shannon's career appeared to implode in a matter of days, it was actually the culmination of YEARS of her own problematic behavior that was finally exposed and ultimately lead her abandoning her channel and leaving the internet for good. (or did she...) The "Dreading" google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KThUdUUATn9cE4ga9tJ-rRZikCvjbdh1IWC-q_JT360/edit?usp=drivesdk We hope you enjoyed this episode! Please let us know on Twitter or Instagram if you have any topic suggestions for a future episode! (@lily_marston & @jessismiles__) PS. The girlies have officially entered their short form content era! Follow our official accounts: https://instagram.com/doweknowthempodcast & https://tiktok.com/@doweknowthempodcast Business Inquiries: doweknowthempodcast@gmail.com

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jill mendoza

omg it’s like it’s my birthday

Rams

IM SO READY

Hannah G

Omg omg omg omg

Nicole Bernache

girlies you have no idea how badly i needed this right now i literally teared up at the notification

emryjoy

YES lol I’ve been WAITING for this one

Evan Parsons

omg just in time for bed time

Maria

NOT THE “OR DID SHE”?!?!

Brielle Powell

hi girlies i started really intense therapy today pls manifest it working for me 🥲❤️

Maggie

I am SAT for this one thank you girlies🙌

Maggi

oh I am locked in

Makayla

I actually just cheered for joy!

alex

i've been sick for two days just couch rotting and watched just about everything this is exactly what i needed god bless 🙏🙏🙏

Mxrboneless

I remember watching this dumpster fire but I’ve forgotten so much. I’m sat

Em 🪷

Oh this one’s going on the big screen for SURE

Emma Harrison

Noooo I would love if you went down the Onision hole

Elle

This had me in such a choke hold when it was going down!

Alvin

dk who this is but I am sat🙏🙏

Zoe

I’ve been waiting for this!!! ♥️

Emma Harrison

When the baby falls asleep and the girlies got me with a podcast 🥰🥰

peachxtaehyung

Ugh I still hate that I supported her so much back before she was exposed. I never believed what she was saying about Emily artful but I fully supported her videos. I always watched them and I believed she was a sweet woman because of her constant superchats etc (that's actually how I heard of her was seeing her superchat another commentary channel) im glad I didn't actually give her any money (i only didn't cuz I couldn't afford to) but it makes me feel bad that I supported her. And then this happened once again with illuminaughtii too. Makes me resistant of supporting creators much other than people im actual friends with

peachxtaehyung

She had a big commentary channel a few years back. She had a feud with Emily artful and was "friends " (which came out to be a one sided friendship it seems) with ready to glare if you know who they are

Whitney

So grateful for this bonus episode💕 sorry I was cranky during the lost episode fiasco, I just missed you😭

wolfvonbiele93

I always felt a weird kind of affinity to her because she and I have the same birthday, in the same year and were very similar in a lot of our mannerisms and speech, so you can imagine how it messed with me to realize that she was such a fucking snake behind the scenes. It made me reflect on why I support creators and be more critical of the ones I do

Amy G

Iilluminaughtii was another one of the biggest most drawn out YouTube sagas! But im v excited for this recap coz I was ALL UP IN IT when the creepshow drama was going down!!

Kybourg

YESSSSS!

Hannah G

I’m so glad you both covered this! I think this happened just a year before DWKT’s first video!

Allison

I felt so bad for readytoglare, your friend is talking shit about you on a gossip forum. I’d never trust anyone again

Jacie Willison

I really hope the stuff about Dreading is wrong. I really like that channel and if this is true, im UPSET

noseybee

YES! I have no idea who this person is but I have ALWAYS wondered. Absolutely ✨obsessed ✨with the drama throwback videos.

Mxrboneless

Same. I only watch them and Boze so ig im down to Boze at this point.

Emily

Yessss

Jacie Willison

Apparently people on reddit debunked that he's the same person but idk at this point. Who to trust lol😅

Hella H

I want to know the Swoop issue CC brings up every now and then and if the girlies know anything about it.

Meg

I’ve been waiting for this one 🤩

Carolyn 🌱

Lolcow and kiwifarms are nothing like reddit, truly cruel and hateful people on those sites. Reddit has a small part of it with snarkers but they a re nothing like LC and KF

Verity Lala

The Too Many Tabs podcast has a great episode on the history of lolcow and how it came to be, what it is etc

Rebecca

This is the type of videos I love from your Patreon - please cover more old drama!! So excited🥰🥰

Fabiola✨

I love jessi’s facial expressions😂

Andersen Crockett

I’m so glad yall are doing this episode because I’ve never really understood what happened with her downfall but also never wanted to investigate it myself 😂

Bee

Didn’t they cover that?

Bee

I still remember where I was listening to Emilys video for the first time this is YouTube HISTORY. So shook by the end tho was not expecting them to still be active on YouTube 🤯

destinee

Hi! Is anyone having trouble opening the video in YouTube?

Abbey Stoll

D’angelo Wallace really didn’t deserve the hate. he’s really nice and i like his videos

Abbey Stoll

CC mentioned in a video that she really didn’t like Swoop’s take on Jessi and Lily i interviewing Johnny during the Colleen Ballinger documentary. But Swoop didn’t condem H3H3 nearly as much bc Josh “warned Jessi and Lily.” Total BS

Abbey Stoll

reddit has a lot of dark corners with dark content. more than just snark pages! it is harder to find but it’s there

Riley

Okay, I would be utterly SHOCKED if the Dreading thing turned out to be true, I've loved that channel for a long time, I really cannot fathom how he could have a history like this.

Kimberly

Can we get the link to the Google doc about the dreading connection??

Rebekah García

I was about to say - lolcow and kiwifarms are like next level depravity. Actively encouraging doxxing, violence, the whole nine yards of absolutely abhorrent stuff. Reddit is bad but can’t hold a candle to the level of filth that comes out of those places.

starmamma🤍

On the patreon cc and sherilyn used snark pages to show swoops past. Imo swoop didn’t do anything egregious in her past. She just had a different life which she has touched on. The snark is gross. Really disappointing to see sherilyn like this. I used to be a fan of her way before cc.

Elena

I’ve been hoping you’d cover this!

Yelizeth Zuniga

PLEEEASE cover lipstick gate. that was the first real internet drama that i was truly invested in and i need your commentary on it! it would be a full circle moment for me 🤣

Bri

Not me on my third watch through

Hannah Freedman

Ugh I’ve been waiting for this one 😭😭

Lisa

I’ve learned never to say this. Plenty of unproblematic creators have been exposed for horrific things. You really get zero insight into a person from watching their carefully curated content.

Devon Nonken

opposite, really. when i tried to play it as a youtube video embedded in the patreon app, youtube kept telling me i needed to sign in to make sure i wasn't a bot (guessing it didn't like my vpn lol). going to patreon in my computer browser and opening the ep in youtube so i could add it to a playlist to watch not in the patreon app was more helpful.

Devon Nonken

it varies so much because reddit is basically Create Your Own Community, so there's amazing communities and horrible ones. but sounds like lolcow/kiwifarms is nothing but a bad community so def nothing like reddit which has great communities in addition to the bad ones.

Devon Nonken

i'm sorry that you had to deal with that, it's never fun when someone you enjoy/feel a connection to turns out to be shitty. but i'm glad you took something positive from it (self-reflection). like in an ideal world you shouldn't have had to do that, but doing that reflection shows strength. <3

Carolyn 🌱

It has corners, for sure, but they dont thrive and/or are constantly ban evading. They are also small and few and far between, which is why I've never understood the reputation reddit gets. It has pockets upon pockets of different kinds of people and communities- long nail people, snail people, rat people, cat people, rainbow loving people, Uber drivers, Uber riders, etc etc Snarking is nothing close to what the weirdos on kiwifarms and lolcow say. Kf and LC are meant to be the dark corner of dark corners

casey

what in the emery bingham 😭😭😭

Riley

It’s the way in which he has a seemingly genuine disgust reaction to violence and abuse and the excuses people make when they try to defend themselves after they’ve been caught. I don’t claim to know they guy, it would just be an awful and sickening thing to learn that he’s done these things and then gone on to essentially explain how thoroughly he knows that his own actions were wrong. That’s what I mean by shocking.

Sheila

I didn't realize she brought Sykunno into this too.

Rebecca Lee

Well shit… I really liked Dreading…

tiff

oh my god i used to watch dreading a few years ago & i had no idea😭

Khadija

The dreading connection is CRAZY!! Cockroach behavior

Michelle Fernandez

GTFOH!! I’m SHOOK by the dreading revelation because I used to love their videos (don’t judge me, girlies)

sc00byp00h

I'm so excited to watch this omg

Mak

I have been WAITING for this one!!!!

Mak

No SAME

Tess

Oh my god this is an epic bonus episode!

Brit Martin

oh my GAWD I've been wanting y'all to cover this for so long

Liz Valenz

this was a great retrospect! it would be interesting and fun to recap old internet drama/controversies, even the silly ones we can laugh at 🤭

Helen Berry

I’ve heard the name creep showart before but never really knew what happened. I love these deep dives even if they’re a few years after it happened cuz I never know wtf is goin on lol

Layne A

Nope I REFUSE to believe dreading is Anthony 💀💀💀

Bianca

I remember all of it happening in real and forgot that. She dragged too many people that I honestly forgot some of it.

Shiloh Arlit

I don’t know if this is in the comments, but is the Holly they’re talking abt Holly Conrad? She’s a costume designer and cosplayer. She was married to Ross O’Donovan (AKA RubberRoss, an Australian gaming YouTuber and Twitch streamer who was connected to the Game Grumps channel as an editor. The GG connection would make sense as Shannon made a video on one of the founding members, Arin Hanson’s stalker?). TLDR of it all is that Holly cheated on Ross with ProJared (also a gaming YouTuber and streamer) which ended their marriage. And also meant that Jared cheated on his wife as well. Which all happened in like 2018. I’m just curious if that was referencing lol

Sammie Reilly

Ladies, the preview on this weeks episode made me take the plunge and join Patreon. I need more of yall every month. 🥰

Chloe

Finally decided to bite the bullet because of your preview on this weeks pod! Keep up the awesome work ladies!!

Shaina

Noooooooo I love the dreading youtube channel..FUCKKKKK

Megan

creepshow art *takes a drag of a cigarette* haven't heard that name in years

LuTheTeaWitch

Just a heads up, Shannon’s sibling goes by they/them pronouns.

Brian W

I.. am.. sat..

Alicja Czarnota

shieet, brb girlies, I have to go unsub from dreading. I had no idea and I've been watching them for years ;;

Alicja Czarnota

it's double embarrassment for me since I used to sub to creepshow as well ughhhh

Gaby

I feel like this is how you turn into Elizabeth Teckenbrock... how you sharpen your skills to become the person who can pretend to be an obgyn, oncologist, leasing office, etc ... Start with 15 accounts that you argue with, online lol.

Gaby

Also ... You two OWNED your characters on the podcast, it was such a fun treat to be listening and then hear you and be like wait.... Is that Lily and Jesse? Loved it.

jade

argg I love you both so much I followed you both separately since you actually uploaded on your channels and I've watched every episode of the podcast. I'm so happy to finally be on the patreon too!

kristina pickering

I have heard there was drama with Creepshow Art but never knew anything about her or the drama. I came straight here from the YT preview! I neglect Patreon a lot. I just totally forget it exists. I've watched the dreading channel many times. Even sped up, I recognized that voice immediately. I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't the husband.

Iridescent

Had to purchase this episode, I followed her when this all happened, I remember seeing her community post and being soo confused It was a couple weeks before I was recommended videos explaining what happened

Hei

This was the episode that made me become a clout goblin lol. Hello, girlies 💜

sandiinas

no dude its that artist holly brown, a while back d'angelo made a video dragging holly every which way for tracing official art in their fanart, getting caught then trying to worm their way out of it. its cool to watch cos its old d'angelo. makes sense that it would be holly brown because thats the only holly i remember him referencing, and also all three of them ran in the same circle initially, since before he was a regular degular youtuber, dangelo wallace was an artuber

Shiloh Arlit

I started watching D’Angelo because of this whole Creepshow circus so that would make more sense lol

Lk

Girlies, it is so fun to know Jessy was there with me in Creepshow drama lmao. I was IN it, I was in discord servers, I was in unsubscribing party stream, I made animation about it lmao

Raven

It was the website COOKIES that really implicated her!! Because no hacker could do that UNLESS they had access to all of her devices! So it was pretty much impossible to be anyone but her.

Hei

WAIT. WHAT?! How I didn’t know dreading is Shannon’s husband?! I used to watched his videos lol. I can’t believe I fell for it TWICE (I used to watch Shannon’s videos too, until I realized how many curse words she was saying per minute and how heated she got every time; it felt sus to me). I stopped watching it because there were MANY signs that this guy was a misogynist. Specially for the way he would talk about women (both as victims and perpetrators) and how much grace he would give to men. He also hyperfixated with two cases where women killed their (allegedly) abusive partners. He even had to disable the comments because people were catching up on his behavior. WOW. I’m speechless. Also, most of his latest content is just him giving a 5 minute commentary with 4-5 hours of court footage with zero editing. I’m not kidding or exaggerating about the length of those videos.

Hei

Girl, same! I subscribed to dreading after the Creepshow Art drama lol. I feel so ashamed 😩. I unsubscribed to dreading awhile ago because I found it sus how much he hyperfixated on cases where women were the perpetrators, specially those where they claim their partner was abusing them (now I get why).

Shara

wow, I am a subscriber of the Dreading: Crime and Psychology channel. I actually enjoyed a lot of their videos. I feel very conflicted now....

Bekah Kashtan

Are you seriously telling me that these motherfuckers are still profiting off the internet!?! Time to run them off for good.

Froggele

Little correction girlies: In Emily‘s r-word accusation against CSA‘s husband she made a strong point of saying that he was completely sober while she was very high on H. Looking down on Emily because of her addiction and mocking her for it was a huge part of the hatred that they have send her way. For some strange reason her ex boyfriend (Shannon‘s husband) reacted extremely angry and hateful towards people who do drugs (like to a point that goes way beyond just being against drugs or being worried about someone who does them) and it is important that he was completely sober when the alleged SA happened because that’s why there was a power imbalance and why he could take advantage of her. They also weren’t a couple anymore when this took place (important because he can’t even claim that they were together and that he thought that he had consent or that they used to regularly hook up while she was high at the time).

Bibi Gigi

Im having an issue with the app. For some reason it says i have to login to yt

jamie🧚🏼‍♀️

I can only use the captions when I’m not in full screen, when I enter full screen they go away. Does anyone know how I might fix this? It’s on every episode I watch :(

Adelaide

Omg saaaame! Was chin on the floor shocked when they said that

Emily

ophie dokie on youtube has a really good video that covers how messed up swoop's content actually is. it's a little long and meandering but i like that style because i spend most of the day listening to stuff so the longer the better. ophie does a great job laying it all out in a way that will really put words to the weird feelings people have about swoop.

Riri

wait .. i have been subscribed to dreading for a while. it’s a dude and his brother i’m pretty sure. wait i’m freaked out now. i loved that channel

Froggele

Shannon did the same for years tho. Criticizing others while being a complete shit show of a person behind the scenes. Also it’s pretty easy to criticize murderers and child predators. Even 🍇ist in prison look down on child abusers so that means nothing! You are a little naive if you think expressing disgust at murderers means someone is a good person.

Riley

You’re making a lot of assumptions about my thought process for a stranger on the internet there buddy. Reacting with shock when someone says one thing and acts completely differently behind the scenes is actually a completely normal human reaction and acting like I should have known is silly and pointless

Kaitlin Hogan

I have watched videos on it before but always felt kind of confused. Thank you for the straightforward explanation. The mind of people like this is endlessly fascinating but mostly because I just cannot fathom living this way much less finding a partner who is into the same twisted stuff. I'd like to think it was more rare than that.

Bea Heart

Spastic is a slur?? I grew up with it meaning like “you’re a spaz” like you’re messy and chaotic

Shauna Steele

I joined your Patreon just for this. I know that sounds wild, but I randomly just started thinking about that era of YouTube drama and I sometimes wonder what CSA is doing now. It sucks to think they're still making tons of money off YouTube and probably doing well in that sense. Although I'm sure the shadow of being found out by someone they meet or know IRL always looms over them. (Almost like being stalked, huh)??? People should comment on their YouTube channel that they know who they are, but then again, you could anger them and they could come after you! They are insane, as we all saw..... CSA's behavior is literally like, CRIMINALLY INSANE. Anyway, I wasn't necessarily expecting to learn anything new from this video, but I did not know about their true crime channel.

Hyunah Kim

just joined the patreron from korea!! been loving jessi since her storytime days, happy to see what's coming and can't forget about the other girl (i love you too lily)

Marley Ortiz

BRO I’m subscribed to that dreading. I loved it for the true crime content but I had no idea it had anything to do with creepshow art. thank you for mentioning that or else I would never have known

Shelby

Holy shit the dreading account being her is a bombshell….. i used to watch those vids but never again

Shelby

It’s not a slur per se but it’s considered an inappropriate term because it originates from the medical term for muscle spasm induced movements seen in people with cerebral palsy or certain birth defects. It’s similar to the use of r*tard

Cameron

NOOOO I had no idea that dreading was voiced by Anthony!

Ruby

It may be because their videos are just unlisted videos on YouTube so you can either watch them here or click through to YouTube where you have to make an account

Kiara D'Orazio

Who . .I need to know Who has this much time 😭😭 I'm exhausted from listening to this But I love you girlies, so I'm not going anywhere 😂

Gabriella Frantz

Tbh I would like if you guys reacted instead of doing your own deep dive

Lesley

this was fascinating, but i don't anything can ever compete with the womblands saga!😂

Lesley

i wouldn't stay conflicted. it's clearly him.

Rachel

Same lol I had basically same experience as the girlies that I tried to follow it when it was going on but there was too much. I’ve been wanting them to recap bc I never really knew what happened!

Kim Hodges

You're kinda pissing me off 🤣 I know you're trying to find dirt on tanacon. Which you should lol I found more dirt just Google searching. You've had this built up for 10 years and you had all of 5 minutes to talk about it.

SasquatchRadius

The deep dives you ladies do... Just wow! I'm here for it all!

thesovgc

It's all Lily

thesovgc

I wasn't expecting you to bring up the dreading lore. And you did. Shit, I should know better than to underestimate my Queen Lily

Pierce

I know this is late, but not the Sykunno mention 😭 He’s a streamer and he literally seems like the sweetest guy ever and never gets into any drama. This is just crazyyy

Ruth M

nooooo i didn't know dreading was creepshow's husband

peachxtaehyung

I love korea! I love them culture, language and the music. I want to visit but I cannot fly sadly

Shyan Vigil

I'm 25 and feel so old....I feel like I should understand some of these words or what she's talking about, but it feels like my husband is explaining car stuff to me.

Nesa (Pronounced Knee-sa)

Okay as an advid true crime viewer on YouTube, I do watch and subscribe to Dreading. Now after watching this I'm pretty sure I'm going to unsubscribe now just in case. I won't miss it too much bc I watch A LOT of true crime channels, and some react/do commentary of Dreading. Sooooo yea I just talked myself into unsubbing. Side note, I subscribed to your Patreon today as soon as my check hit my bank! I've been binge watching the DWKT podcast for the last week (and will continue to do so until I've watched every episode), once I finish all your YouTube content I will binge everything on your Patreon! Huge fan, love the banter between you girlie's and I love your beliefs and what you do and do not stand for, as well as your sense of Justice. You have another fan for life. If anymore GoFundMes pop up I'll be donating to get rid of Scamet also know as Janet 🤣

Meebs

Dreading crime and psychology being connected to Creep Show is willlldddddd

leah

bro i actually cant believe that about dreading, ive stopped watching true crime because of how bad it is for mental health but that channel was my favorite :O

Shanea Ehrensberger

I am so glad you pointed out dreading. I searched and realized I have watched a few. Better late than never to avoid.