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In today's episode, the girlies break down the recent drama surrounding TikTok's first cult.... "The Children of the Waning Star," along with its 'cult leader', Gigi Jarvis.

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[Bonus Ep 22] Children of the Waning Star - The TikTok Cult

In today's episode, the girlies breakdown the recent drama surrounding TikTok's first cult.... "The Children of the Waning Star," along with its 'cult leader', Gigi Jarvis. We hope you enjoyed this episode! Please let us know on Twitter or Instagram if you have any topic suggestions for a future episode! (@lily_marston & @jessismiles__) PS. The girlies have officially entered their short form content era! Follow our official accounts: https://instagram.com/doweknowthempodcast & https://tiktok.com/@doweknowthempodcast Business Inquiries: doweknowthempodcast@gmail.com

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Nikki D

Girlies noooooo I need to go to bed!!

cynthcerv

helll yeah yall must’ve knew i needed this rn 😮‍💨 ily girlies

Tiffany Prosek

feel so spoiled getting a jk pod, jessi smiles, AND patreon upload all in one day 🙂‍↕️

Avery 🖤

3 uploads from Jessica Urban in one day??? I love this for us

Jaden R

Genuinely best day of my life right now - the holy trinity today.

krista

my heart would explode if i didnt just take a relaxing bubble bath!!! 🥹🖤

Cailin Dineen

HELL YEAHHHH so excited for this one girlies!!! love yall and hope everyone is enjoying their day!

Courtney

Ooo I’m excited for this one 💜

Amber

As someone who also majored in Sociology, she's doing more with this degree than most.

Monika Stewart

I love working 3rd shift & getting a girlies drop, my favvvvvv🤍🤍

Jessica L

This topic literally gasted by flabber 🤯

Jessica L

The random “I’m not racist I’m not homophobic” sentence ?!?! Sounds like she might be 😂

Kaylah Maxwell

I love this being the 3rd new video I’ve seen today with Jessi🥹

kylie

i fear i would join the cult but hopefully id stop after seeing the rediculous nature. idk i’m very gullible, and im “grown” i’m not a child. i think it’s a scary thing even for vulnerable adults of all sizes and backgrounds. i saw another creator say that it could’ve been more of an experiment given her background and i think that’s what it is

Caleigh Haid

Can't belive that I also graduated HS in 2018 and even as an unemployed college grad I would never think of something this diabolical to do online good lord.

Andrew Giglio

I haven't started the episode yet but that is a great name for a Cult.

Kristi

Lily, what is your keyboard?!😍

Sydney

Bonus episode and jk on the same day?? 🥰🥰

hayley aleigh

She’s trying to be edgy in a 2014 way in 2025 😭 it’s rough to watch

Autumn Baker

"Hello, Diabolical Girlies" may sound better than hello Patreon. May sound less jarring and awkward

Autumn Baker

I would've too, if I were online like that. Im also grown. But as you say maybe I would've left once it was getting a bit much

paulo

WTF Patreon is dubbing video to Portuguese (my native language) 😹

Jordan

As an actor, that's completely inaccurate about not wanting a social media presence for casting directors and agents. They just don't don't want you to be controversial.

Cristle (Cris)

I fear I do the Gen Z hair tuck 😔 BUT IRONICALLY with friends to be funny not obsessively 😂

That Jessica

The police are currently investigating deaths, possibly (most likely) by own hand of two 15-year old girls who fell off a roof last weekend here in Finland. It is the saddest thing, our nation has been devastated. One of the girls had the cult emojis on her profile. So far it is inconclusive if this is what caused their deaths. Either way, I am at a loss for words that someone could joke about these things to this extent. She opened the door to something dark. I am glad J&L covered this so I didn't have to google it any further myself.

dagny

Her videos are giving that joke of someone wanting people to make edits of them so they keep doing certain movements

krista

what bothers me is if she reaches out to brands or they reach out to her they’ll see her “follower count” but wont ask or not know HOW she got that following. also, in the notes app you guys didnt read, she was already twisting the narrative “i said send pet photos as a tradition.” like no girl you used the word SACRIFICE. thanks for covering!

Lara🌷

Can someone please tell me how I can get the dubbing to stop?! All of a sudden Patreon is dubbing this episode in german and I don’t know why. I changed my preferred language to English and that worked for desktop but not for the app in my phone … I’m going crazy I just want to listen to it in English 😩 The old episodes are still all english … I don’t get it

Riley

Jessi's hair looks a little purple from the light in this video, but honestly it looks so good on her!! Dark purple hair would slay on her!

Lauren Suero

lily where do you find this stuff?! i love it girlies 😛 see u friday lolol

Melissa Glover

I got so much second hand embarrassment from that diabolical mess.

Haley

Can someone tell me how to open this ep in YouTube?

Evanjuleen

17 mins in and girls not describing a cult. Shes describing being a Twitch streamer. LOL Inside jokes, special emojis, holiday streams w audience, pick a chatter icon, promo pet/art, a voting system. She wants a third place of acceptance and creativity. This is just a Twitch channel. I'm 20 min on now. idk what is about to happen. ...and it went way south way fast 0.0

Matt Gomes

I have a bachelors in sociology and doing this would never cross my mind 🤣

cait o

Sometimes I forget I’m watching the other girlies until lily says something out of pocket and I have to double check lol

Adrianna

Her voice reminds me a little bit of Bre powers and her bangs of HRH 😂

Kalinda Harding

I'm in Australia and my cousin tried to get me to join something I can't remember the name of it but to join it was going to cost 75 grand I was like umm if I had 75 grand it would be towards a house not a "leadership group" lol 😆

Vanny

♥️♥️♥️ really needed this today lmao. My son’s second birthday is this weekend and lmma just say I cried like a baby today because my baby isn’t babying no more and my 9 month old won’t sleep 🤪. Then I thought wow I used to watch the girlies pregnant asf with him on my way to work at lush on public transit. Any wayzz glad to be braced by ur presence ♥️

Destiny Briggs

Watching this on Friday so I can have 2 episodes while I’m moving😂🩵 thank you girlies

Eunice

If you click on the lower left hand corner where it says YouTube it will open in the app. I do this so I can watch it on my TV lol

Eunice

Lower Right hand corner**

kim

I think her biggest mistake was ever thinking that grown ass adults with jobs, bills and families would ever interact with this content/storyline. Should've taken it to Tumblr (As other commenters have pointed out, her goal/intent feels very adjacent to tumblr fandom which was a huge creative outlet for a lot of ppl in the 2010's) but I guess younger gen z don’t know about that lol. What also irks me is her being a Sociology major. I've encountered many ppl like her who obtain a soc degree but somehow refuse to apply or make connections to what they’ve studied irl which is quite literally the point of the field IT IS REAL LIFE that's why we study it bc nothing exists in a vacuum. It’s just really frustrating to hear her say “I didn’t know words mean things” like girl duh that’s sociology 101 u freak 😭 just wasted 4 years of your life to somehow come out of it stupider. Anyway she'll be fine as long as as she don’t do no stupid shit that again 🤷‍♀️

SasquatchRadius

No idea but was totally thinking the same thing. Love it! 💕

Sergio Zapata - Zamora

Is it just me or does homegirl with the "bay-ang", look like the girl who popped Trashley in her botched peepee suckers??

Hannah

Thank you so much for this! I never knew

Xochi GonzalezFritz

When did you ladies become boomers? I see this for what it is satire. she’s making fun at cults; MAGA?!? 😂

Vicky R

As a witchy sociology major, I felt super attacked by this episode 😅😅

Candy

Did u solve it? I have the same issue

Karla

Her addressing it and panicking is one of the dumbest things I've heard on the internet.

emma💌

Kennesaw State University??? i am shook, i live right by there LMAO it’s such a random school too

Haley Kukan

There's a huge scientology building in St. Louis, and they had a sign outside of it that was advertising "personality tests". Before I knew what scientology was, I almost went and did it out of curiosity. Once I realized, I thought back to it and was like "wow. That's fucked up"

Sierra Price

When I first started watching, because she said she was an anime tiktoker, I half expected the cult name to be a reference to Jujutsu Kaisen since there is a group in it called the Star Religious Group. The members are called children of the star, and they worship one specific character. All that is to say, I wouldn't be surprised if it had some impact on why that name was chosen, though I don't know anything about her. Regardless, thank you for the episode!!

Ember Q

it's a logitech gaming keyboard! she linked it in the comments of her office tour vid, I think it's called Pro X something

Elizabeth

I think I’m too Gen Z for this episode….

Heather

Girlies, my husband is professor at Kennesaw State. He could have had her in his class!

alex oshaugh

woah! my friend from theatre school had a similar experience where she went to what she thought was an audition in LA and they took their keys to valet the cars, “lost them” and it ended up being a scientology recruitment thing

Erin Oppenheim

I was really young when this happened, but I realized later on in life that when my mom was going through her "crunchy" phase, she took me to a pretty covert scientology office when I was sick. I'm not sure who exactly told her, but she was under the impression that they were natural healers, similar to the chiropractor she took to me. I vividly remember them having me hold these two metal rods, and they pretended to read the different frequencies coming off of my body. They ultimately concluded that I had the flu, even though I had no symptoms: no fever, body aches, lack of energy, nothing. A big plus, however, was that my mom kept me home for a week because she believed them. But, apparently not too much, because we never went back.

Coffee Cake

I'm late to this bonus episode but the fact that she is the same age as me is crazy and we both studied sociology

Jessica VanBuren

This is a great way to ensure that these people (mostly children) are comfortable with the predatory aspects of cults. Using the idea/words of branding and sacrifices as “jokes” is a great way to lower boundaries and lower people’s discomfort at the idea. I hope the parents get their kids some help. I’m sure most didn’t take it seriously, but for the ones who did… they will probably be super susceptible to cults in the future. Maybe education on how to spot cults or predatory people. Again, most people probably were just joking. But most people who join cults want to be a part of something and don’t realize until they’re too far in.

Brett

As a Gen z… what the fuck is she doing???

Kerri zimmer

Sorry girlies I find her to be really funny. It’s so so so blatantly satire.

Ilaha Aliyeva

As someone who also studied sociology, I do not buy for a second that she did not know. Cults were one of the first lessons ever! But also, I do think this is just a dumb joke and satire that went too far, and her reaction is very much in line with the ‘edgy teen’ vibe.

Purple-Lemon13

I'm a high school Social Studies and English teacher and this is wrong for a couple reasons like you guys already said. When I teach about a cult or manipulative government even, kids don't seem to fully grasp the power they have over people or the danger. In English if we read something that is satire, they often don't get that it's satire and supposed to be funny until I explain it. Also the lack of brain development like was already said. That's probably why so many young people are drawn in. I have a dark sense of humour but this woman is irresponsible.

Dominique

Raised in a cult led by my Grandparents. I could get on board with the first, maybe even the second, video...but beyond that, this is crazy stupid. And to continue on as long as she did, should have consequences. Did she add the creepy music to her videos? I almost think that makes it worse, because of how our emotions can be affected by tones and frequencies. And children don't quite understand how to differentiate those feelings.