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In today's episode, we break down why the internet is collectively losing its mind over MJ Gray, who is known for her aggressive de-centering men philosophy that includes her telling women to never get married or rely on a man for money, has recently gotten engaged to a man she's only known for 9 months. She's also spoken out on multiple occasions about not liking or wanting designer items and has since done a 180 and is traveling, shopping, and living in luxury ... and reminding us with hauls, hotel tours, and unboxing videos.

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[Bonus Ep 43] Feminist Anti-Marriage Influencer Gets Engaged After Only 9 Months of Dating

In today's episode, we break down why the internet is collectively losing its mind over MJ Gray, who is known for her aggressive de-centering men philosophy that includes her telling women to never get married or rely on a man for money, has recently gotten engaged to a man she's only known for 9 months. She's also spoken out on multiple occasions about not liking or wanting designer items and has since done a 180 and is traveling, shopping, and living in luxury ... and reminding us with hauls, hotel tours, and unboxing videos. We hope you enjoyed this episode! For even more content, go join The Other Girlies over on our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/doweknowthem Please let us know on Twitter or Instagram if you have any topic suggestions for a future episode! (@lily_marston & @jessismiles__) PS. The girlies have officially entered their short form content era! Follow our official accounts: https://instagram.com/doweknowthempodcast & https://tiktok.com/@doweknowthempodcast Business Inquiries: doweknowthempodcast@gmail.com Do We Know Them Podcast Hosted by Lily Marston & Jessi Smiles

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Elisabeth Bourget

Slayy!! I just got my wisdom tooth removed and got done with the bonus episode thx girliess🤍🤍

Hannah S

never been an egg before😭🎉

Amy

I needed this today 🥹

Dominique

Anti-marriage is quite a thing to go on a rant about. If you don't want to get married, don't. But my marriage is the best thing in my life, the best decision I've ever made. Even when the entire world is shit, my marriage and the peaceful home we've built, is always the reason why I can endure those other things.

kendralicious

i full on had a jump scare because there’s no audio in kitti’s tiktok and just as i was going to check the audio came back on full volume 😭

Jillian Lozano

"Did my dad go? I think he had work that day" SENT me

Michelle Spencer

....that truly IS the craziest 180 I've ever seen online. Holy fuck

Abigail

Interesting, question, has there been any trouble ever keeping your maiden name when it comes to like healthcare with spouse/kids?

Alma

I hope he f’s her over as karma to her. I really do. 😂

Amanda Bailey

I’ve always said I would never get married. And I was pretty loud about it. I married my husband on the 1 year anniversary of our first date…. And here we are 7 years later happy as pigs in shit lol

Amanda Bailey

Honestly, more women should think like her. Maybe not as extreme but the concept of living for yourself really opens you up to bringing people into your life who enhance that, including potential partners. Maybe that’s a hot take but more of us humans need to look out for ourselves first before we bring more humans into this world. Edit to add: about the being happy single stuff… the rest is too much lol designer hauls while saying you’re not paying attention if you like designer goods is actually insane.

Amanda Bailey

Are we sure that’s not Neddy boy she’s engaged to? 🤣💀

Lexi

Whyyyyyy does this feel like a right-wing person who is doing an elaborate ruse to show women why they actually should depend on a man? Like, she was being a caricature of what she thinks liberals sound like just to show that life actually gets better when you’re with a man????

Liz Marie

Yikes. I hate her too.

That Jessica

I'm currently pregnant with our first and my husband is a saint. I tell him every discomfort I have and he bends over backwards to accommodate me. I'm pretty sure at this point he'd rather be the one pregnant haha. So yea, this take is super crappy.

Vaul

does MJ also realise that you don’t have to stay in a relationship when you’re pregnant? you’re not trapped you have free will, you can leave. If they’re abusive, then maybe yes you’re trapped but that’s not the same thing 😭 why is she talking like women are helpless, we can raise children on our own, we’ve been doing it for centuries 💀

araaa

my word is she insufferable

Amanda R

I was debating cancelling my paid sub and then bam, two videos uploaded. I’ll hang on some more.

Cat

I love Jessi’s and Nassim’s relationship so much

Lisa

The issue for me is it’s insulting for her to suggest that we don’t think like her. To suggest that the majority of women “live for a man”. It’s not a hot take. It’s what most women do.

Lisa

She’s a right wing grifting. Marks my words she’s a trad wife.

Amanda Bailey

I do think there is a huge factor of rage baiting too though. She’s getting a lot of attention based on people not agreeing with her and on TikTok you are rewarded for that unfortunately.

Landed On Marz

That lady is someone whos been a grifter from the beginning. It sounds like shes reading a script of things ive seen online piece by piece from other people. Just another clout goblin

Sonya C

Not the Ned Fulmer vocal fry!

MD

How is she so massively unlikable in both versions of herself

tiff

the crazy thing is, she went on that whole rant about marriage being slavery when she literally ended up getting bought by a man. a man had enough money for her to get rid of her morals

TheyCallMeTiffany

does lily have purple conditioner sitting her hair? no shade, I do that all the time

Anna Titow

Early girly gang 🤭

kristina

wow she is insufferable lol

Autumn Baker

I met my husband and instantly knew we were going to get married. We got pregnant on purpose 6 months later. Got married last month (7 years after meeting) and am now pregnant with #3. For some it works out! And some men genuinely are great, even some white men in USA. I'm living with proof of one.

wolfvonbiele93

Really goes to show how bizarre this whole thing is that it being a bait and switch makes the most sense to me

Brittany Roberts

Jessi is PREACHING in this one! I love it 💕

Gillian Foster

The anti-consumerism and anti-marriage stuff feels like a long game she played because she knew there would be more money in the rage bait she could post once she did the one-eighty. I doubt either version of her is real, though the rich version feels closer to the truth for some reason.

wolfvonbiele93

Maybe it’s because I know the result, but her talking points are giving femcel not feminist to me. That would make more sense to me why she did a 180 because now she found a man that was “worth it“. That or this is just some weird psyop like someone else mentioned

Bailey

This one was a hard watch…. As feminist topics tend do be with this channel… there ARE actively still laws in place that majorly oppress women in marriage. Her stance isn’t anything crazy radical, yall are just not nearly educated on radical feminism enough to be with it.

Jason

I'm here for the 'anti man" if it all. 😊 Granted, as a gay guy, being anti man has proven to be a bit... limiting. Then throw in my high standards and we're talking a kitty sized pool of options. But thankfully I really enjoy my own company. 😂

Stephanie Chism

Omg!!!! The vocal fry!!!! Is she freakin engaged to Ned?!?! The dude kinda sounds JUST like his voice haha but we know THAT dude can’t afford $6,000 worth of flowers anymore🤣🤣🤣

MaiMai

Thanks for your comment, helped me decide to skip this one because it would probably piss me off 😂

krista

I’d be lying if I didn’t constantly remind myself Jay-Z cheated on Beyoncé.

Neena Mattson

I love listening to Jessi describe marriage and choosing to love each other 🥰

Steve Klemow

These are all freshman 101 Women’s Studies course ideas, refurbished as pseudointellectual thought for the uneducated masses—brought to you by a woman with questionable academic credentials (exasperated doesn’t mean what she thinks it does). I think the larger issue at work here, which is quite a depressing one, is not so much that she’s pulling a classic grift—but rather that our society is encountering feminist principles and other areas of liberal arts study via such undisciplined and unreliable means. The internet has its merits for legitimate research, but social media and specious informational sites have displaced principled sources such as universities (even governmental educational resources are no longer reliable under Trump), leading to the massive infiltration of disinformation in our society. I don’t have any idea what the solution is. Younger generations have been wired to have such short attention spans and cynicism of academic institutions that they’re openly arguing that their own information channels are superior to those that prioritize internal controls. And tech companies are aggressively searching for more and more ways for us to “make life easier”—which often means without discipline or standards. Influencers are fine for recommendations of beauty products or makeup skills (when they aren’t sponsored, which is increasingly rare), but when they start taking the place of formal education, we’re in big trouble. Buyer beware…

Ashley Diaz

It’s giving rage bait lol

Christina

I'm married AND have my own money (wild concept, I know). You can be married and be independent. I chose my husband because he adds to my life. He never dictates what I can and cannot do or get for myself. Because, another wild concept, I have my own life separate from my husband. We can do that now as married women fyi.

Lexi Estrada

ABSOLUTELY it feels like that, just so extra and aggressive.

Cindy

If marriage really started out by being about the exchange of the woman between a father and another man, I think we have taken back power with that thing and made it our own nowadays by having all the control in wedding planning. Like some groups can take back the power of words.