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Mushoku Tensei 2x23 (Patreon)

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2024-06-26 03:57:53
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nah they were wildin this episode lol

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FreshxEli Tv

To explain a lil bit this didn’t happen over night it was a while & ROXY was pressured TO DO it .. it was the only way to get him out the slump idk why they making her the Villian here 😭 it’s crazy But YOU CAN AGRUE THAT MAN GOD CHANGED RUDYS FUTURE all of this was supposed to happen regardless Mangod prevented this meet up since the beginning .. it sucks how everything happened now but This is like an actual Cannon event with Rudy & Roxy you can even say a prophecy … it was always supposed to happen it’s their Future

Fernando Perez

Real talk tho I enjoy how this series displays messy fucked up characters. Obviously there is some element of horny harem-bait but unlike other isekais I like how the characters do at least feel like real people. Thats just me tho

Qz

Everybody in this comment section freaky ong

lordofcheeks

i dreaded this moment so much. FUCK

maseken

There's a reason why Man God didn't want Rudy to go, it'll be a while until the anime reveals tho

Anime4Life

Dr. Disrespect is Innocent!😇

rudy

character development cheating on his pregnant wife 😱😱😱

Shadow Monarch

i think he was more attached to this family bc one he was closer to them than his real life then the bulling pushed him over to not care so it kinda make sense n paul literally died in his face but idk maybe LN rudy is diff

CentipedeKid

They are wild for expecting anyone to be cool with this Roxy bullshit

FreshxEli Tv

I been saying this all season people say “spoiler” like didn’t man god literally stop Rudy from going where he was going because ROXY WAS THERE & he would regret going at the start of season 2 so he made Rudy Go to School 😭😭

LiquidXGravity

They skipped it but Elinalise actually told Roxy to sleep with Rudy

FreshxEli Tv

It’s deeper then what they are giving out I feel like they’ll explain everything way later on

Andres Holguin

I didn’t like that they skipped some stuff. It made roxy look way worse in my opinion. They were all worried about rudeus’ mental state and elinalise told roxy that she should sleep with him. Roxy didn’t want to and told elinalise that she should do it instead. Elinalise says that she can’t because she is sylphy’s grandmother. And this is basically when Roxy finds out that rudeus is married and expecting.

Sham3ful

Aye log off for the night

lifeboat

roshi loves that damn film grain in this show lmao

Fatal

The LN info skips are gonna be the death of me br9

ComeTseMe

Roxy definitely being Rudy’s left hand alright 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sham3ful

Some of these early comments are really insane.

Lildreezy

Rudy was in his room for bout 3 weeks with no food so they had to get him out of his slump Buh in the light novel I felt like it was both of them who initiated it Buh in the anime they made it solely Roxy witch I don’t think is fair😭😂

King of New York

TWITTER HAVING A FIELD DAY WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

ka9k 1

roxy is for the STREETS and rudy aint shit match made in heaven

BZD

But the fact is she still did it. It doesn’t matter, this was always going to make Roxy look bad

Kd

Not a fiber in my body want Rudy to marry Roxy I hope Slyphie turn this nigga idea down😂😭

Abraham Perez

Unless I'm miss remembering I believe Elinalise TOLD Roxy to sleep with Rudy, cause he was locked up for multiple days depressed

Devin B

Rudy's situation is sad because he realized he inadvertently distanced himself from Paul and Zenith the way he did his original parents but the only difference is that Paul and Zenith tried to love Rudy but Rudy couldn't see himself as their true son. Right now he just has too many regrets when it comes to both pairs of parents.

CentipedeKid

She's old as shit and met him when he was 3

G. B.

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with polyamory, and in this setting monogamy is not the norm. The real issue is infidelity, but should sylphie agree and forgive him then there shouldn't be a problem.

Duratus

You are remembering correctly

Lildreezy

She wasn’t even thinking bout tht Nikka like tht when he was a baby tho she only started liking him in the labyrinth

King of New York

It was uncomfortable enough watching it myself but it's even more when watching reactions to it lmao

Miguel Vela

They skipped alot of stuff from the light novel like i believe sylphies grandma gave roxy the idea to sleep with him and that he has a kid on the way and married, thats why roxy said “ i knoe” when rudeus told em. Something like that. Lot of important info skipped

Kd

If she does on King Neptune himself I’m done with ts🤣🤣

Andres Holguin

yeah i agree, she even said herself she took advantage of him.

lordofcheeks

Dawg i remember when i read it and was like “oh…this isn’t gonna go well”. In any case I just try to push past it bc I’m not a huge fan of this aspect of the story

Weltall Gaia

If you are gonna become a harem protagonist you might as well marry the whole harem

Kd

I still don’t understand how he say he can’t say which he loves more but literally treated Sylphie like she the #1, married her, n got her pregnant…. But loves Roxy from being a pervert ass jit n didn’t see her till a few episodes ago n head over heels in love…mmcht mannn

Shadow Monarch

lmao the way roshi looked at lupa im dying

Kingmakaii

As I read this in LN bro I was staring like tf who tf asked someone to be they wife before asking the first wife if she ok with it i was glad Roxy was like go ask yo first wife first and if she ok with it then come ask me cuz nigga wtf 😂

Kingmakaii

Yeah I’m like wait didn’t she tell her to go fuck him after Roxy tried to get her to go do it and she said I’m not doing that you do it 😂

Kk

He has caught bulbasaur and squirtle all that's left is the return of charmander lmao

FreshxEli Tv

ManGod watching this play out Like FAWWWWWWWWWWWWK I TOLD YOU TO GET THEM BEAST GURLS PREGNANT… WHY IS ROXY ALIVE 😂🌚😂😂😂😂😂😂

Wrëck

idky we worried about slyphie she not gonna gaf lol, the bigger problem is breaking the news to the girls that their father is dead especially norn

Luhbabytay

In the previous episodes his wife already said she was okay with him having another woman and Roshi and sheera you both already watch harem anime and y’all didn’t have a problem with that😭

HonorableHarvey

i dont care about any of the skipped content from the LN....... but my nigga Dillo better be in the next ep and they waited to reveal

Lildreezy

Elinalise met Roxy years b4 she knew about Sylphie the only reason she knew about sylphie was because of Roxy leading her to Rudy and in the light novel she basically says she cares for Roxy more

King of New York

Airing Paul's death on Father's Day and having Roxy bang Rudy in ep 23 just like how Eris banged him in ep 23. Production team is full of trolls.

Anthony Chase

I gotta see the story board for that isekai

Sidney johnson

That was the worst mistake cutting those three weeks of him being depressed from the light novel 😒

William Zavala

I can't lie the Poly aspect of this series is the biggest downside for me. I think that alone knocks it off my top isekai series because the series just seems so good but then the author threw his fetishes into it. With all the justifying and lore he makes up it feels like he is trying to sell it to the audience, I don't believe that is good storytelling, I think the author got a bit carried away. Like in the beginning how Rudy was a giant scumbag but he changed for the most part, this flaw is one that never changes and is void of any expectations for change tbh.

Fernando Perez

Also I know some people will call Elinalise an L grandma but realistically she’s known Sylphie for like a few months at most and has known Roxy for years. She’s a lot closer with Roxy so that’s why it hurts her to see her sad like that. Still L grandma sure but I do think it’s at least understandable.

Totally Thomas

The reason Rudy looks so bad this episode is because about a week and a half has passed since last episode, and he basically locked himself in his room barely sleeping or eating. That's why he didn't even change his clothes or washed them. He literally went back to the days he was a shut-in on Earth.

Luhbabytay

Nigga I seen that damn post lol

Ginger Dwarf

Lupa you a brave one. I respect it. Not trying to get murdered by someone on the same couch. o7

Sieger

Here's what they didn't show from the Light Novel: Rudy was depressed for several days and barely (if at all) left the room. One day, the team eventually discussed taking him to a brothel or even Elinalise doing it herself, but because of her relationship with Cliff she said it had to be someone else and even encouraged Roxy IIRC, so it wasn't exactly something Roxy decided by herself. As weird as all of it is, they try to lean a lot on the fact that "this world has different customs" in some ways

Luhbabytay

I mean he was being a pervert to her and didn’t toss her panties away when he got marry so that should tell you something 😭

Kk

GOTTA CATCHEM ALL POKEMON !

FianMoon

Wanna make it even more wild? In the novel when Elinalise tells Rudeus to marry Roxy she literally says "I have been Roxy's friend way before I was Sylphie's grandma" LMAO Also don't forget that Sylphie already told Rudeus that she would be fine with him having a concubine, but a whole wife is different from getting a concubine. Other stuff that wasn't added in the episode from the novel is that Rudeus didn't leave his room for weeks, that's why he looked like that. When they were discussing what to do about him is when Roxy finds out about him already being married and in that same discussion they say that if he went to bed with someone that would probably help him to keep on going, that's when Roxy gets the idea of doing it with him to help him, but let's not lie, of course she wanted to do it with him lol

gingerswag7

Yeah, Sylphy is definitely not going to care. She said Rudy could take a concubine earlier this season, and in cour 1, she felt there was a possibility he would take multiple wives in the future anyways. The morality in this world when it comes to relationships is just not the same as it is in ours.

CentipedeKid

I think that makes it significantly worse

Bobby Robinson

Yeah this episode pissed me off not gonna lie

Devin B

The issue isn't that Rudy wants more than one wife, the problem is how he went about it. I'm sure polygamy is a normalized thing in this world but going behind someone's back is trash nonetheless. Like how Zenith felt initially with Paul and Lilia, she definitely seemed ok with it afterwards but it's still a shitty feeling to be cheated on.

Kd

Ykw… u damn right😭

William Zavala

In Rudeus's surroundings it isn't the norm because of Paul, but everywhere else he has been Polygamy is heavily frowned upon. This being a negative aspect of Rudeus from basically everyone around him is brought up a lot in the LN.

DatKid_Kaneki

i hate how they potrayed this ep. look i dont support it but forsure rudy was NOT portrayed as like a asshole like this. there was a whole segment not put of rudy just done and everyone tryna see if sex would make him happy which initially it did work but DAYUM

Dede

Not the nub 😭😭😭 Y'all are diabolical

BZD

Interesting, now that you point it out, the Man god had always had Rudy do things when Roxy was around. If not for getting the demon eye he likely would have run into her.

BZD

In season one Rudy had sex with one person, in season two he had sex with two people. What will happen in season 3?

Blue Nach

Exactly, I felt bad for Sylphy who is pregnant with his child going to learn about this

Keondodge

I heard others say 1 month but mostly 1 week so I cant say. Even then Im putting the blame on rudy here mostly since he let it happen.

Charcoal

Harems are always messy in shows but I think this is probably one of the more mature ways to do it. Rudeus was actively against marrying Roxy until Elinalise put the idea in his head, plus it's been set up for a while that polygamy is a thing in this world with Paul having two wives and Sylphie saying that she'd be ok with Rudy getting a concubine if she couldn't conceive. It's similar to the way that Julia was introduced with the slave market (that looks wild now that I've typed it out), you may not agree with it but you can still acknowledge/understand it's existence in the context of the world we're watching.

Liam Gilbert

I'm not justifying Elinalise's choice, but as a reminder, she's known Roxy for decades, whereas she's only known Slyphie for like a year.

BZD

Now that I think about it, the Man god said that if he stayed he could basically marry one of the beast girls and would be happy, I think that means Sylphie always would have been fine with another wife.

LiquidXGravity

Roxy would have still survived but she would just be in love with someone else if Rudy didn't go also his dad would still be alive

Guav

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

Kwaku Afari

Not saying I agree with Rudy but Sylphie did say he can take another wife. It just would have been better if they spoke with her first.

Michael Afful

Yh this ep basically confirmed wherever the hell eris is rn as long as she's cool with polygamy she'll still get her man back😂😂😂😂😂

ERRORCODE616

Makes sense. She hasn't really had time to develop a full, meaningful relationship with Sylphie. They're family by blood alone. And after living the life that she's had to because of her curse, it's understandable why Elinalise doesn't have a strict monogamous view on relationships. And we gotta remember, they're essentially living in medieval times. Polygamy, especially among nobles, wasn't uncommon. At least this is one of the more tasteful takes on the harem anime that I've seen. He's not just watching while girls fight over him. He's talking with them, and trying to mediate the situation.

Killah_ Raze

W Rudeus at least is real with himself unlike men nowadays who need 10000 approvals from their wives just because it is wrong and when wives have a house, a car and kids men just need to shut their mouths and take the daily abuse from their wives until the divorce and men suicidal rates go higher

Arturo

I think they were trynna portray Rudy as close as Paul as they could aka a scumbag lol

Gilthwixt

Middle Eastern and Mormon weebs are probably reacting like "What's the big deal? This is normal??" 💀💀. I get why Roshi and crew reacted the way they did, but it's easy to forget this is a fantasy world where the culture could be wildly different, so polygamy existing when it isn't unheard of in real life is pretty mild. At the very least it's way less sus than the other weird shit that gets a pass in this show.

Fenpai

I looked back on it, and that's actually not entirely correct, she kinda just went and did it without telling anyone she would. Also Elinalise didn't suggest she do that, after she said no they just basically went and said "welp hopefully he can pull himself together". Which is why Elinalise was surprised and had a chat with her after.

DocGreen

Actually she wasn't pressured to do it but she felt like it was the only option because elinalise refused to do it herself.

Jc

you do know Poly was very common in our own world until religion spread so much. Also Poly is the complete norm in their world. Only the Millis church cares and they aren't even that big.

Six Paths

Honestly surprised y'all were so shocked by this. The harem route was always inevitable. Not to mention Eris is still out there and plans on returning to Rudeus at some point. Also the point of what Roxy was saying is that everyone else was wrong, Rudy wasn't getting better on his own. He had been holed up in that room for over a week barely eating or sleeping, which is why he looked so rough. Just like when he first came to this world, he once again needed Roxy to give him that push. Doesn't necessarily make it right, but she loves him and felt that was the only thing left she could do for him to snap him out of his depression. Plus as Elinalise mentioned, it's mainly Millis followers that are strongly opposed to polygamy in this world, but even so Roxy recognized it was still wrong, but couldn't stand to let him suffer alone.

DocGreen

Y'all forget Rudy was destined to cheat anyways. If it wasn't Roxy it would've been the beast girls. Mangod just didn't want him at rapan.

Theo

You are remembering wrong

Blue Nach

Sylphy only said that if she couldn't have a child to make a mistress. It's messed up that this happened when she isn't there and Roxy will be going to same home to be announced as his 2nd wife.

Fenpai

This is true, they basically skipped a whole segment of the team talking about what to do about him being in this state. Even saying this has happened before and that one of the well known ways of getting past it, is through alcohol and sex, not that I agree with it, it would just put it in line this worlds perspective in things.

Adrian Jansen

you are not 100% correct, this is how it happened: Elinalise didn't ask Roxy to sleep with Rudy, Geese asked Lise to "comfort" Rudy but she disagreed, then Lise suggested Geese to take Rudy to a brothel but after thinking it for a couple of minutes they discarded the idea and decided to just give him some time to mourn, Roxy was present while they were discussing all of that and choose to comfort Rudy herself.

Abraham Perez

Ahhh I knew I was forgetting something, thanks

THRAX117

Lara enters the chat....

Jonathan Sessoms

Let him live that poly life it’s a win win for everybody lol 😂

Adrian Jansen

where did you get all of that, it is wrong, stop spreading wrong information, this is how it went: Elinalise didn't ask Roxy to sleep with Rudy, Geese asked Lise to "comfort" Rudy but she disagreed, then Lise suggested Geese to take Rudy to a brothel but after thinking it for a couple of minutes they discarded the idea and decided to just give him some time to mourn, Roxy was present while they were discussing all of that and choose to comfort Rudy herself.

Adrian Jansen

i'm seeing a lot of comments with wrong information, this is how things happens in the LN: Rudy didn't went out of his room for weeks so the gang was worried about him so Geese asked Lise to "comfort" Rudy but she disagreed, then Lise suggested Geese to take Rudy to a brothel but after thinking it for a couple of minutes they discarded the idea and decided to just give him some time to mourn, Roxy was present while they were discussing all of that and choose to comfort Rudy herself. I can't believe that they decided to skip that scene because it gives context regarding why Roxy did what she did.

Krype

I really hope it doesn’t become a harem. I really like Roxy she better then his bland wife but still idk two wives still scummy

Jamaal Ellison

Twitter discourse was funny for this episode. Nobody went crazy at all it was completely rational conversations.

Lawlach

Im kinda suprised yall seem shocked by whats happening lmao i always thought it was more obvious this would likely go this route

Url Robbo

I think we need to take into consideration that in this realm having multiple wives is a normalcy. However Rudy shouldn't have asked Roxy without Sylphie's answer first.

ShaquanVirse

I could be wrong but I went back to watch season 1 & I believe Rudy's relationships were all foreshadowed - He had sorta romantic connections with all three from season 1 & now he's risking it all to be married to two of them - Eri a whole bitch in my eyes for what she did to him so I'm praying we stop at two 😂

Rak

series started with his dad having 2 wives, and syphie grew up watching that dynamic in their household. It's funny how the characters all handled it maturely while the viewers of the show are freaking out and forgetting we already say poly relationships here

ShaquanVirse

Not really - The whole one wife thing is recent history wise - Even some religions explore polygamy - Scummy would be the husband treating wives differently or loving one more than the other

Krype

To me, having more than one wife after promising to stay loyal is still scummy but to each their own.

DANIEL PEREZ

also rudy helped her by meeting cliff which truly loves her and is willing to help her remove her curse which is half way there (chastity belt) so if by rudy fucking roxy and telling him to marry her and there she will probably talk to sylphy about allowing rudy to marry her and by doing so at least something to bring some kind of joy to the death of paul and fuckery zenith happened

Roro

THANK YOU. I am glad someone said this lol

Omar Bautista

Oh boy you haven't seen anything of what happens in this show yet

DocGreen

The anime literally portrays that

Omar Bautista

20:15 That Sheera death stare is so scary

DocGreen

Please stop with the grandstanding. Incest and slavery was okay with but multiple wives is a problem stop the cap

DocGreen

If you believe MG was telling the truth

earthphoenix7068

Streets be cold frfr. Even my grandma an Opp

Six Paths

Yea it's wild to me how out of all the horrible and crazy things that happen in anime, polygamy is where some people draw the line. As if harems aren't an extremely common trope in anime. If it wasn't already obvious, Paul's sword analogy should have been a dead giveaway this would happen.

Zukito

They skipped a lot of content of a conversation they had at a bar. They needed Rudy at least 50% or the travel back was impossible he was not sleeping or eating so they all suggested someone bedding him

ziggiey

I just attribute this to difference in culture, cus i thought they would be flipping out on rudy

Osiris Cage

Throw in the towel now my dude lmao

Clinton the Bingethinker

I was right—Roxy knew and didn’t care (as far as partaking in sex goes). It is pretty messed up Elinalise is like “yo marry Roxy—your wife, my granddaughter, will be fine with it”. That being said…Elinalise, in a lot of ways is closer to Roxy than she is to Sylphie, cause they’ve been adventuring with each other for years. Elinalise knows Roxy is all about duty to others (people needing to be rescued, or trained in magic) and she wants Roxy to have happiness for herself, because she knows Roxy yearns for ordinary everyday happiness that comes from having/being a part of a family, a lover she can call hers (or rather partially hers if she actually marries Rudy). And Elinalise was there when Roxy first mentioned the whole cute tall hero saving her from the labyrinth fantasy. I don’t think I agree with her but I can see why she wants Rudy to marry Roxy. Wonder how Sylphie will react 👀

Sieger

Just went back to it, a little correction: Elinalise’s main reason for not doing it herself was Silphy (this is also when Roxy hears about the marriage the first time), and Roxy was not directly prompted by others, they just kinda gave up on the idea and hoped Rudy would improve. Roxy then jumped on the idea herself

Fenpai

This is an L episode, but not because of the polygamy/cheating shit, it's an L because they don't show the discussion before Roxy went ahead with her plan. Others are doing a good job explaining in the comments, just wanted to say L for Lack of context.

Lildreezy

That’s Rudy’s house too ain’t nobody kicking him out😂🤣

SolarPaul

In Elinalise's defense there is one minor line that was cut from the anime that's in the LN that explains a lot. Basically when she tells Rudy to marry Roxy Rudy does hit her with the "Why are you betraying Sylphy, aren't you her grandmother?" logic and Elinalise responds "Before I was Sylphy's grandmother, I was Roxy's best friend" Keep in mind that Roxy and Elinalise traveled together for YEARS and grew really close (close enough that she has orgies in Roxy's room if you remember season 1 lol). So yea, Elinalise has just as much loyalty to Roxy as she does Sylphy

Fernando Perez

Yeah it was kinda surprising seeing how shocked they were at this when they were seemingly fine with a dude who is mentally middle-aged molesting his preteen cousin most of season 1 and then sleeping with her. These characters, Rudeus especially, are not good model citizens. Polygamy is arguably one of the least sketchy things he’s done.

Clinton the Bingethinker

Roshi mentioning Roxy’s panties got me thinking—it’d be kinda funny if Rudy does tell Roxy and/or Sylphie about the panties, or one of them finds out in some way and it leads to him losing them both, because they’re both like, “ew” 🤣 probably won’t happen cause it’s not Konosuba but it still made me chuckle.

_monjiro

That fucken outro sent me

AstralPrime

The way the character interactions are handled are by and large pretty damn good, but yeah they just butchered the important notion of communication. These kinds of relationship dynamics feel organic in this show with how it has progressed, I think Roxy as a character deserves this outcome as well.

Adrian Gomez

Since they skipped so much in the anime, lemme clear something up for the gang. (no spoilers) In the LN, after Paul's death, Rudy was so depressed it was pretty much the beginning of the ED arc on crack; he wouldn't eat, get out of bed, or listen to anything anyone was saying to cheer him up. He was in that state for months. As a last resort, because he was so shut off, Elinalise recommended Roxy sleep with him. Roxy struggled to make that decision (she knew Rudy was married at this point). A few nights later, after steeling her resolve with alcohol, she did it. It helped Rudy and he slowly, over the course of a week or so, started to come out of his depression. In the LN it was clear that he would not have made the decision to go home if he didn't sleep with Roxy. In my opinion, the fuckin'ning made him snap back to reality.

Six Paths

Roshi - "L Grandma" Me - "Based Grandma"

_monjiro

Also with Ruijerd droppin hints earlier in the Season, I would not be surprised if he decides to say "Why stop there?" and wife up Eris.

Zurxciis

They fighting for they life irl 😂

Luhbabytay

It doesn’t matter the reason it still shows she wouldn’t care

Fernando Perez

Exactly. Like I’m surprised to see people give the pass to the slavery bit from last year as “different culture” but adultery/polygamy is too much?

Victor

So, this is what the Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander joke about? You gotta be kidding me.

Philbo

yeah all i saw was LN readers upset that things were cut, But even as an anime only i completely understood where things were going and why they unfolded that way. id only look at roxy in a different light IF she didnt explain here view on things. i mean Polygamy is still a thing depending on religion even now a days and its seem like its okay to do so in there world as long as everyone is in agreement, so its not really that crazy that Elianise suggested that.

StorySmith []

You may consider this spoilers so if I upset you I apologize but this series original source,it’s light novel, is consider the progenitor of MANY of modern isakai tropes. ……And a lot of isakai have harems….

Krype

Okay Osiris 😂

StorySmith []

This is pure speculation on my part but I feel like the reason Elinalise did what she did is partly due to the life she has had to live thanks to her curse. Yeah she doesn’t have a choice in the matter but that doesn’t change the fact she has slept with multiple people for who know how long. Maybe she felt if she sided with Sylphy she would have be acting like a hypocrite?

Theo

Some cut content from the Novels is that Elinalise, Geese, Talhand, and Roxy discussed how to help Rudy feel better. Elinalise and Geese agreed that Rudy should have sex to make him feel better but, just going to the brothel and having sex with women he doesn’t know probably won’t help him. Everyone in the party assumed (or at least hoped) that Rudy would be fine and return to normal eventually. However, Roxy disagreed with that assumption, and that’s how she got the idea to help Rudy. Rudy is a mentally weak person. Once he gets hit with a huge setback and is mentally in the dumps, he can’t recover by himself, Evident by his face, Rudy had not been eating. He’s just been holed up in his room for days feeling constant sorrow. Rudy needed to feel something else besides sorrow and depression. He needed to escape from those feelings and that came in the form of sex. After sleeping with Roxy, his mood improved, and he was able to talk to her on what to do next. Despite some people’s negative feelings of how this all went down. I just feel sad about the entire circumstance

Philbo

in my opinion, roxy's "Excuse" is really all anyone needed to hear. because it kinda explains everything that happened leading up to them fucking. the only thing that wasnt explained was how long he was in that room for (which also really isnt a big deal cause you tell by his face its been days)

artisticSarcasm

But yeah for me I basically attribute it to this world being different and Polyamory not being as taboo(especially among noble houses which Paul and Rudy descend from). There's also a lot of stuff getting cut for time so so much context is lost. Things like Rudy being much worse off than he was for a longer period of time, and Roxy agonizing more over the choice, etc. No worries tho lol everyone has different thoughts about this stuff

DJ Muldrow

Fuck sylphie, norn and aisha finna pack this nigga up

NovaVortex

Not Roxy hitting Rudy with the, "Ok, hear me out, I know your dad just died and I took advantage of you... Tee hee!" 🤣

Devin B

Going by what you said I'm assuming Rudy is going to have all three starters at some point.

Fatal

Im sure thier reaction would've been different if the anime added the bar scene and show that Rudy also initiated it

Darksteel78

Let my man Rudy be on his Uzui-type flow. They have A LOT in common at this point.

John

It hurts my soul how they fucked this up

Travis James

isnt this apart of the reason why norm hated rudy?

Charly Rocano

The anime absolutely messed this part of the entire series, they skipped so much important stuff and dialogue that it makes a lot of what happens in this episode seem weird and super rushed

LY

This is probably just me (as a woman and an anime-only fan) but this episode is heartbreaking to watch. Reading the context comments, sometimes I feel like the writing is so good it manipulates you into thinking that certain things are okay when they're not supposed to be lol. Use cheeks to cure depression? Sure. Build harem and the women are (probably) gonna be okay because they're ideal waifus? Sure.

Charly Rocano

In the Light Novel before Roxy and Rudy did the deed, Roxy knew before that Rudy has a wife and a child coming soon. There was a very important conversation before that stuff happened. The anime cut off a lot of important stuff

Noah

Damn, so much raging as if this shit wasn’t foreshadowed to hell. Rudy just gonna marry Sylphie and then we forget about Roxy and Eris? Cmon now. Roxy even admits what she did was wrong but she did it in hopes it would rejuvenate Rudy and get him to come out of his room and eat. Really don’t understand why this is gettin more rage than some other aspects of the show, I.e slavery

y0ungship

The fucked up thing is him cheating on Sylphie, but nothing wrong with polygamy if it's done the right way lol.

Fatal

Surprised you made it past the first season with this mentality

MightyMorphin

Elinalise is the best wingwoman and worst grandma at the same time

Darren Banks

lol the thumbnail of Sheeras face is everything I needed to see here 🤣

Darren Banks

It’s literally not important because Roxy literally says this.

Darren Banks

lol it’s fantasy world where polygamy was literally practiced by his own father, successfully with the help of Rudy I might add. Yeah. No clue how you made it passed season 1.

Fuji

yall pls try to see this through the lense of the world rudy is in, i know its hard not to judge the whole situation by modern standards but try your best LMAO

Jmoney

NGL this series is a huge litmus test and has shown how much people will try to excuse trash behavior, actions, or immaturity with things like “he clearly doesn’t know better” “this moment is necessary for character growth” and etc. without trying to acknowledge how messed up their actions,ideas, and more really are despite that. This is a 50 yr old man mentally who had to have his father die and mom catatonic to finally realize the importance of blood family. A 50 yr old mentally who through cheating on his finally started to overcome his grief and ect. His ineptitude and inexperience may be the reasons why a lot of his actions are the way they are but it doesn’t serve to justify him taking them

Darren Banks

GGs in the chat. Rudy should’ve had Roxy first anyway so fuck your feelings. Man worshipped a pair of her panties for years 🤪 Anyway. his own manipulating god in this world clearly doesn’t want him with Roxy for some reason and purposefully doesn’t mention her and basically tried to get him to fuck some dog girls instead of going and potentially find her, Sylphies no idiot and basically foreshadowed her not being the only woman and there’s still that redhead that took his virginity already being foreshadowed as coming back in the story. The viewing audience can be such puritans when it comes to something as basic and natural as sex…

Darren Banks

Is it really that necessary? Like I know the viewing audience of most anime is short bus kid retarded - including Roshi in the crew and I love retards - I’ll even pay for it, but like. It’s clearly been at a minimum several days - mentioned in the previous episode, mc is STILL bloody, hasn’t bathed or changed after spending all that time fighting for his life, obviously reeks, is skinnier both in body and face so that alludes to at least weeks passing by without him taking care of himself. - and Elinalise’s involvement is as obvious as it gets - they show her and Roxy going to have a conversation of screen. Audience deserves a good smack sometimes and I’m okay with the anime smacking us with subtle nods to what’s going on. We’re dumb as rocks and they need to keep letting us know how dumb we are because critical analysis is a lost art. Everything shouldn’t need to be explained.

Valtorr

I think as much as I could look past that picking up another wife on a trip thing, leaving the option for Eris to come back and be all good annoys the hell out of me

Darren Banks

ManGod obviously has it in for any contact with Roxy… and if people haven’t picked up on that by now - that mangod has given Rudy advice in which directly puts him away from any chance at a Roxy rendezvous, they’re missing something pretty telling.

Giyuu

Ok Darren let’s see how basic and natural sex is when your girl cheats on you

Darren Banks

Yeah how long it had been was irrelevant. Because by the end of last episode it had already been 4 days. That’s enough to run anyone away.

Darren Banks

Americans are immature as fuck about sex wow. And this is not for the goat reaction crew, more so for that comments. I paid for their input so I’m cool with whatever they have to say, right or wrong.

kingBD

This a joke or u deadass? 🤣 dont think its too far fetched to ask a married person to stay faithful, especially while your watching reactors who are married on the couch (not sure about lupa)

Norman kay10

Roshi: ''I just died, My wife killed me!. Now i reincarnated in another world with Six Wives!!.'' Me: Dead Laughing

Philbo

I forgot 4 days had already passed last episode lol

Paulothy

It doesn't matter that sylphie said she'd be cool with it, the right thing to do would have been to stop Roxy and talk to sylphie about it first

Darren Banks

lol they’re reaction is far lighter than the chat and some online discussion, so this is more for the chat - roshi and sheera are cool in my book because that’s their journey and I respect it. But yes. This is dead ass. Culturally the states is fucked when it comes to any maturity about sex, marriage, children, and so on - a la 20v1 culture, street pick up artist culture, etc. Which is why individualist capitalist forces raise our kids more than we do. Moot points, but anyway yeah. It IS too much to ask when the whole story has been throwing it in everyone’s face that it wasn’t going to be case. That this man has been manipulated into missing Roxy first- the very woman he worshipped for years, Eris basically left to go get stronger for him, Slyphie essentially blessed him taking on multiple women already, the mangod was trying to convince to take one of the dog girls, Elinalise is basically Roxy’s best friend and we all know how elinalise has to get down just to survive…. And notably, all three characters involved know exactly how his father married his own mistress. Nothing in this show made any one believe monogamy was on the table for Rudy.

Kryto Currencies

Bro, they in a fantasy setting, polygamy is a common thing in that world, slyphie even said she's used to seeing it.

Kryto Currencies

Sylphie said how she was fine seeing polygamy, heck she even suggested it to someone.

Kryto Currencies

Who said he gonna stop at 3? I bet mf gonna catch em like pokemon 😂

Kryto Currencies

Most likely not Aisha, cause that's the situation where SHE WAS LITERALLY BORN IN 😂 but Norn finna big out

Jared Williams

This is pretty funny cause yeah it’s really hard to not bring standards from our world but at the same time a lot of content is skipped so they wouldn’t know like how polygamy is fairly common in the world or how sylphie has already told him she’s cool with him having multiple wives

Rashaad Taylor

This is so wrong, cheating is never okay no matter what the excuse

Fizzy 🐉

The anime is tripping lol but it understandable

Frank

This was quite common in our world as well, just hundreds and thousands of years ago.

Frank

I agree with you Darren, also, this type of shit happened hundreds to thousands of years ago constantly, and still does even to this day. Rudy is also one of the most powerful people in that world so far, so it makes sense that he just has girls that would do anything to be with him. People just don't look at things objectively.

Artistikk

Lol at thinking someone is gonna kick me out of a house I found, cleared out and renovated. LMFAO.

Kelven_140

I was waiting for this episode!! Just to see Sheera's face. lol

Artistikk

The whole panties in the shrine thing isn't sexual. That nigga literally worships her as a goddess because she was the one who broke the mental shackles he had from his previous life and got him going out into the world. That's HUGE to him.

Fizzy 🐉

Him having a another wife was gonna occur anyway as soon as man god said you need to impregnate one of the beast women I knew it was wraps🤣

Arkan Matlub

Well kinda hard to argue when in universe it’s normal to have more than one wife. Irl, several hundred years ago it was also okay. Not saying it is okay NOW, I’m just saying this is a fictional story with a different worldview hence different moral obligations

Fizzy 🐉

First of all Rudy in the real world isn’t 50 nigga lol, you just made that up and secondly anime skipped some a lot but in the LN Rudy was literally in a deep state of depression for weeks almost to the point where he wasn’t eating and the fear of rudy dying cause elinaise to tell Roxy to sleep with him to get him out of the slump.

FreshxEli Tv

If you remember both this season and last season They always barely miss each other everytime literally when Mangod told him he’ll regret it everyone thought he was going to see Eris but it was ROXY THE ENTIRE TIME RUDY WOULDNT OF STRUGGLED SO much for 3 years Man God really a dick 😭

Arkan Matlub

”Sylphie, Aisha, Norn… Paul died. I lost my left hand. Zenith is braindead. I’m sorry. Also, I cheated on Sylphie after Pauls death and here’s my new wife Roxy, could you please accept her?”

Artistikk

it's not about being manipulated tho. The problem is trying to apply our world's own moral standards to a fantasy world that's completely different. Truthfully, even in our own world there are different cultural aspects we don't all agree with from each other. Would I be upset if my wife brought up the idea of someone else in our relationship? Fuck yeah, but in a world where polygamy is the norm and monogamy is an outlier, I'm not gonna start clutching my pearls at the idea of a character having multiple wives.

Cyrus_tha_Virus

Listen bruh Elinalise was best friends with Roxy before she was the grandmother of Sylphie 😭😂😂😂

Krype

He cheated on her and she took advantage of him while he was down before any form of consent with his wife doe that’s probably my only issue

YaBoyNetero

Polygamy is not illegal in that world. The whole world doesn't revolve around christianity. Get your head outta your ass.

Double Cheeseburger

most of these opinions on sex are very puritanical and christian in their origin. if you study other cultures youll see that not everyone views sex through the same lens. there are even tribes in africa that consider offering their wives to visitors is just part of being a good host. i understand the kneejerk reaction because of the culture we exist in, but its good to be cognizant of your biases, at the very least from an intellectual perspective.

Leon

I believe they meant the combined age of the past life + current one for the age.

Cleaner

I mean with some exceptions, most people are hard core raised towards monogamy, you cant blame on that... now imagine if they ever see the MT family tree

Fenpai

Im just being nitpicky because I've read the Novels thinking "oh they wouldn't say this, if they knew this happened" which thinking about it more is actually real stupid. The anime does do a good job of showing you whats happening, without needing to tell you. Having the privilege of knowing what's gonna happen, probably fucks my viewing of the show. Sometimes I wish I didn't read it, and maybe I would appreciate the story telling more.

Jmoney

Thank you for actually reading my comment

Darren Banks

That is an understandable issue lyssa. Missing light novel content be damned, if it wasn’t for Rudy’s in the moment pledge of monogamy prior to leaving, some of this wouldn’t pan over as it did - Sylphie, per usual, had a deeper understanding of their future than Rudy had contemplated. But arguably if they didn’t do it, Rudy wouldn’t have finally started moving forward again. Paul and zeniths situations were basically the eris situation but much worse for Rudy as it made him reflect on his real world self again. Someone had to do something. And he was rejecting everything else. Not saying Roxy was right, but without her choices, we’d still be looking at Rudy in that bed, not eating, alone, and withering away. Social Consent is never as black and white as it is written, and it just glad that there’s still art that will approach it with that level of nuance. As someone who’s pretty much a volume or two away from finishing up, looking back on this in retrospect makes really sad for each of these characters, but for none of the reasons mentioned in discussion. They’re all being toyed with.

Darren Banks

Why? He and Eris went through hell and back together. Rudy’s immaturity is what made that seem worse than what it was

Jmoney

If you weren’t so eager to defend the series you would understand the 50 is the combined age of his 2 life’s because he carried over his previous memories since he’s 16 here and mid 30’s when he died. And again you are ignoring my point that at his age someone sleeping w/ him to help him overcome his depression isn’t justifiable regardless of the discussion Roxy had with the party. You were so quick to insult that you couldn’t even consider that I may be aware of The LN, which I may not of read in whole but what I do know of his the story up to this point in the LN he’s actually worse of a person and the anime has actually aided in his character. Like I originally stated just because something can be given an explanation doesn’t mean the action isn’t wrong

Darren Banks

lol as someone that’s been on both sides of that equation, what matters most is communication at the end of the day. That’s all you can do. Communicate intentions, communicate mistakes, communicate your next move to the person or people entrusting your decision making. It’s up to them how they take it. It’s also a bright idea to have legitimate, mature conversations about convictions and ideals prior entering a relationship with anyone, something most people either don’t do or sugarcoat.

Osborn Malakhov

When ya'll watched 100 girlfriends you had no problem with the main character and even said he's a chad - the hypocrisy :D. You think he won't bang all 100 of them when the time comes? If you look at it chronologically Rudeus fell in love with Roxy first in his life and to be honest, it's portrayed as best as it could. They just skipped over a bunch of stuff from the LN but it's not like his feelings aren't genuine for the both of them, he does indeed love them very much. Skipping a bunch of important details from the LN was almost criminal here as you can't look at that and be like: Oh, that's perfectly okay. That's one of the best representations of the harem trope I've seen so far if you include their motivations that they skipped here, because the characters aren't bland and one-dimensional like in every other harem anime. They feel real because we've known them for a long time, their motives, their personality.

HypeRec

This should of been a rudy episode and ended with roxy coming in the room at the end it's somewhat watchable as an anime only but jesus this is one time they shouldn't of skipped all the content way too important and the changes make roxy out to be a rapist when it was in fact rudeus who pushed her down roxy was just offering herself to be used and so much more skipped content (like rudy basically hinting/telling roxy about the fact he's a reincarnation) I really recommend reading the light novel chapter just for this Volume 12 and start on chapter 10 and read to 12 and then stop there

LY

Like what was mentioned it is a fantasy world with different culture etc. that's why I can accept other characters' mentality, but not Rudy. Rudy is NOT from this world. If his mentality changed during the time he was living in this world, I would have reacted differently but he always thought that Paul was a scum for cheating, his perspective only changed when it became more convenient for him. Also, I am not saying I am now hating this show and I am not saying that I am dropping it now, I am just saying that these parts are heartbreaking to watch as a woman. Like imagine if Sylphie or Roxy cheated, would that sound okay as long as there's a "deep" and "valid" reason behind it?

BornUnMotivated

Yo Lupa's face at 21:29 to "let her know the real you" was hilarious bro I'm crying xD

Israel Magana

A lot of people forget that Slyphie is okay with cheating. She has mentioned multiple times that he can take a lover. Everyone is just pushing their own views on this.

BornUnMotivated

Just here to argue cause I can 1) Verbal consent isn't the only kind of consent 2) Sylphie already gave that consent 3) I completely agree with you

Cleaner

Monogami is only the default for the Millis Church (isekai Christians basically) everyone else is their choice to have 1 partner or many

Cleaner

its been stated that he loves them all the same, it was just a matter of bad timing. If no Teleportation Incident he will have stayed with Eris 1st If no Missing each other on the demon continent Port he would have stayed with Roxy he getting with Sylphy 1st was just a matter of luck for Sylphy

DopefIamingo

These the same people that said he should of stayed behind but forgot man god told him to cheat with the beast girls.

Nah I’d win

Guys in the comment section defending Rudy and their worlds ways meanwhile would take the biggest dumps on the way people live in the Middle East lmao

Nah I’d win

In 100 gf the whole premise is that the guy is a total degen. Don’t see how u can compare this to Rudy who literally witnessed his isekai dad messing up his family by cheating on Zenith

JS S

I thought Sylphie consented to another mistress if she was unable to bear children, but she pregnant so…

Skelerew

Roxy really is the best girl. Leaves her job to go search for Rudy and his family for 6 years, blesses Rudy with the holy relic (unknowingly), and helps him get out of his depressive state. Tbh I am disappointed with the content they skipped in this episode, but that happens with pretty much any light novel adaptation

JS S

I may of missed it but I thought she only stated he could take a mistress if she was unable to bear children? So because she is pregnant she did not consent to this

Jimmy

That's the world they live in. Having multiple wives is normal. Suspend your disbelief folks, LOL. Don't kill this with western views of how people should live their lives.

Cleaner

dont read the LN....

Cleaner

She is not doing it cause of that. She literally explains that monogamy is part of the millis religion and Cliff follows that and she accept that when she became her GF. But outside of that Polygami exists in the world, Zenith was from Millis Religion too that why the matter with Lilia was murky early on.

ChickenDinners

Not everyone likes harem type beats.

Cleaner

go away Claire, you are not in for another 6-7 vols

JJ Gilmore

This thing that I’m annoyed about this episode is that they have skipped parts of the novel

Zack

It's anime Don't take it seriously

Zack

That's 46 not 50

YaBoyFree

i am roshi and sherra watch that stuff

Zack

Think this is bad Wait till his sister husband comes in the pic

Darren Banks

Zack, Touché. It’s just art. But when the audience wants to use the comment section of reaction video for a litmus test of others’ morality, when the entire premise is show characters a flawed but rounded representations of people looking to move forward in their own way… idk, it becomes pretty entertaining to flip it back as litmus test of critical thinking. I’m having a good time and hope everyone else is too.

Christian Clark

I'll never get over the self reporting of Mushoku fans haha. W reaction though

Sauceless

I’m not even surprised 😭

Rebel Gamester

Monogamy is not a purely western concept

Robert Rodriguez

Bro the premise of 100 GFs is him having a harem. The show itself IS a parody of harem anime and it's a comedy. This show is set with a more serious tone so to see the mc say "i'm going to be faithful" then immediately cheat and want to cheat again is crazy. It's okay for the setting in the world for a person to have multiple wives, but it's still crazy when you see it played out. This is of course not to argue the point of whether or not it's WRITTEN well. It's just crazy to see this go through the harem route, but I guess it was obvious seeing how he met three girls whom he ended up getting feelings for.

Omar

The mental gymnastics in the comments to defend cheating is kinda funny. Yes, applying real world morals to a fantasy world is pointless, but even in Rudy's mind he was unfaithful. Man can go on from here and create his own harem for all I care, but he was still unfaithful in this situation. That is all.

Six Paths (edited)

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2026-10-26 09:00 It's gonna be so funny when all the people upset realize that this is arguably the best decision he makes in the entire series.
2024-06-26 12:38 Can't wait till all the people upset realize that this is arguably the best decision he makes in the entire series.

Can't wait till all the people upset realize that this is arguably the best decision he makes in the entire series.

Step Joe

So is slavery, so is premarital sex, so is killing, so is being into underaged girls when you have the mind of an older degenerate man, so is lying to your family that youve lived another life. Read with your mind instead of your feelings. There are a lot of weird and uncomfortable themes that go on in this show. Rudy deserves a kick in the balls, then he deserves to have two wives, thats it.

UNI

yeah most can easily forget about that cause I believe man god said it so fast and casually too. Man god did a good job at being vague over his warning to rudy on this given most of the comments on twitter that my dumbass seen so far.

Fizzy 🐉

@zack so he is still wrong lol

Lawlach

So when Uzi from demon slayer does it he's a gigachad tho

AKAustin

I understand a lot of people having issues with this episode for various reasons. A lot of content is skipped or glanced over, and the material isn't sunshine and rainbows. This story is filled with flawed characters and situations that lead to outcomes that are gray. I think the squad's reaction was oversensitive but I don't fault them for feeling like that. Just that a lot of the information that was presented they seemed to miss or misremembered which gave them a worse impression on the whole thing. Fact of the matter is, Rudy was depressed and clearly wasn't in the right mind and Roxy took advantage of that for both selfish and selfless reasons. They don't say it but Rudy was rough with Roxy in that moment (He tends to have a history of it iirc) so her first time with him wasn't as gentle as she would have liked. Rudy had a lot of internal conflict and regret during the whole time and practically hated himself for what he had let happen. But Elinalise and pretty much Roxy made him look at it how Paul did, which his two swords lesson comes back into play. Next episode is going to be interesting to say the least :)

Step Joe

I dont know if youve realized this but Im gonna let you in on a little secret. Mushoku Tensei is an anime. 🤯🤯

ShaquanVirse

He married them all at once so yeah he is

Kristen

What sort of stuff did they skip? (that probably won't come up next ep)

Lawlach

Hey true and its just my opinion but the way it's happening here is far far far more realistic

Step Joe

There were some conditions for Sylphie being okay with it, but the important part is that she is comfortable with that idea. Rudy deserves a kick in the balls for going against his own word, but thats really it.

Unknown

Roxy: “i remembered back when you were a toddler that you used sulk a lot, so keeping that IMAGE in mind i decided to….” Mkay

Step Joe

Bro she said if anyone else she would know. She understands the struggles of being with other people while loving someone else. Thats a big part of her.

Step Joe

There is also the bloody cloth from Sylphies first time. That box must be burned.

s6yx

?? this is fiction and the world they live in. Applying real life logic makes 0 sense

FahhToni

I gotta give this show props, no other show I’ve seen does character drama like Mushoku Tensei. Except maybe AOT. I hope you guys don’t let this moment ruin the series for you going forward tho 🙌.

s6yx

if yall this up in arms about this lol

Ghost_Dog97

@s6yx but considering Rudy is from the "real" world, that is where his inner turmoil stems from

FahhToni

There was a whole scene in the novel where all the party members were discussing how to help Rudy with his depression from his father’s death. Gisu suggested they take him to a brothel to lift his spirits (apparently it’s a common thing to do in that world), Elinaise argued it should be someone closer to him rather than some random woman, she even considered doing it herself. Eventually Roxy ended up making the move, she knew this was a fucked play on her part, but Rudeus was so far gone she convinced herself to go with it anyway.

FahhToni

ALSO. Very important. In the light novel Rudeus takes the initiative not Roxy.

FahhToni

In the light novel Rudy is the one who takes initiative over Roxy. Not sure why they changed it tho.

OceanPhantom

The biggest fucking grandma L if I ever saw one the way I would have to fade my gma I’m in complete shock!!! 🤯

JJ Gilmore

The part that was skipped was after Paul’s death they tried to talk to rudy but it didn’t go well so they have to think of a plan to get rudy back on his feet and Roxy wanted to do something to cheer him up and Geese told Elinalise that she always says that it is important to ‘get lucky’ at times that like this. But she Elinalise cant help him with that. But Roxy didn’t understand what they meant. So Roxy said to Elinalise does she have some sort of plan but she didn’t and geese explained that at times like these it is best to enjoy yourself to the fullest and try to forget. So in other words if a woman gives a man alcohol and bring them to bed they will feel alive with a little bit of energy. But Roxy was thinking that if she saw Rudy with Elinalise she wouldn’t like that but Elinalise said she can’t do it because Rudy is married to her granddaughter so that’s how she knows and she was shocked to hear that and she tried to act calm saying well he is at that age but the she said at the bar can I have the strongest drink you have. She kept thinking to herself that it’s rudeus he can get married. But then she remembered how she acted in the labyrinth tried to move onto him thinking that he was single and Roxy wanted to scream. Why didn’t anyone tell me? But she said that this is an emergency, but Elinalise said that she can’t be the want to do it but what he needs right now is someone he trust. And Roxy i believe was drunk So they did it and I believe the conversation between Elinalise and Roxy in the morning was that. The second part that has been skipped was the conversation between Elinalise and Rudy where we know that Rudy should marry Roxy but Rudy said aren’t you Sylphies Grandmother but she said inam but I’m also Roxy’s close friend and she knew Roxy longer but as for Sylphie she only knew that they was related when they was married and that was that long ago so that was the parts that have been skipped.

OceanPhantom

She better not come back pregnant it’s one thing to come back and ask for a second wife but to come back with a baby also

Nah I’d win

Oh got u it’s just an anime. So if Rudy started raping underage girls we could defend it by that same notion? See how that logic won’t check out?

1mikeap4

I’m defending the idea of polygamy, not him cheating. It was still wrong to sleep with another woman behind his wife’s back. But at the same time I think people are underselling just how mentally clocked out Rudeus was at that time. He was in no state to be making rational decisions. It’s way different from Paul’s situation with Lilia, where he just got horny while Zenith was pregnant.

1mikeap4

She’s okay with him taking on a mistress. That’s completely different from cheating. It’s something he would openly discuss with her, not go behind her back to do.

1mikeap4

Also bear in mind that the only reason she wasn’t the one to reunite with Rudy first was because she prioritized helping Paul find his family over her personal desire to see Rudy again. Otherwise she would’ve been the one to go get him instead of Elinalise, and subsequently would’ve been the one to help him overcome his trauma from Eris. Like Elinalise said, it all came down to sheer bad timing.

Raider

7:13 😂

Vinny Deluca

Rudy was essentially drunk when she slept with him, he was not in his right state of mind and mentally totally in the gutter. If he came onto a woman in the same mental state he'd be at fault not the girl. Like Roxy said, SHE took Advantage of him. Once he was in his right mind he made sure to clear things up. I respect the Author for his commitment to this being another world lol, They dont have the same views on marriage as ours, dif dietys, religions, norms, etc. If you worship this God, polygami is off the table but otherwise its not uncommon, just up to them. We as the viewer and Rudy himself are imposing rules on that nobody else is necessarily imposing. Def needs to talk to sylphie but she was open to him having a concubine. Dif context for sure, but she did crack the door a little already. Rudy def aint in the right but thats mainly for going against his own word and allowing himself to get taken advantage of like he did.

MethodTKT

What’s weird about Zenith to me is one detail they referred to. She was seen wandering around the town and in the caves. If she was trapped by that hydra the entire time since the great teleportation who tf was seen wandering the town? Sum else is goin on here.

ZukuUzu

She a fan she a fan she a fan

1mikeap4

You’re not wrong, but he really wasn’t in a state to put up much resistance, being listless, malnourished, and borderline suicidally depressed.

1mikeap4

Given the nature of her curse, she’s doubtless had loads and loads of children and grandchildren, but very few friends.

1mikeap4

If only they had just one more episode

Artdysmal

Cuz they had one wedding he always planned to marry all his wives not the case for Rudy

HypeRec

Author trying to reach out to a wider audience and making changes to make it more acceptable despite it already having a bad rep isn't really the best move but hey it's his series what can ya do (they are most likely going to make another eris OVA episode and honestly wished that episode would be dumped for this but oh well)

paulphil

Slightly off topic, but Sheeras hair is lookin 🔥

Seraph_Dalgon_

Those were probably just rumors or a case of mistaken identity. It's not like they had a picture of her so they most likely just went off of physical characteristics which I doubt are hard to come by.

Jmoney

Actually I’m not he died at 34 which is his mid 30’s like I said and lived 16 years as Rudy so some simple math would mean he’s 50 mentally…….at least make it challenging to debunk you talking shit under my comments

Jmoney

Homie can you read I said mid 30’s how can you get 46 from someone saying mid 30’s. And just to be petty, he originally died at 34, lived 16 yrs as Rudy so that actually makes him 50 mentally. Didn’t get the grand old debunk you thought you had huh

supakame

He missed his chance at nabbing that Pikachu though

Nah I’d win

Acting like this ain’t an excuse for the author to live out his degen fantasies lol. Sure Rudy sobered right up and decided to do the right thing, which was to end this affair with Ro… oh nevermind he asked her to be his second wife, whilst his actual wife is currently pregnant, at home with NO clue about how Rudy is fucking his former teacher that knew him since he was 5 years old. Didn’t they show us in the first season how terrible of a person Paul was for doing the exact same thing? Bro how can u guys defend this

Ayomide Salami

Roshi that isekai idea you mentioned has been explored in the Light Novel sphere of media.

AutumnOnFire

Sylphie better Zoltrak the fuck out of these two, I SWEAAAAAR.

Brianaaaaaa

Ain’t know y’all was so conservative 🤣

Ayanda Mpofu

With the way this is going i have a feeling rudy gonna marry eris

Johnny

Maybe Gesse had ulterior motives ;))

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2026-10-26 09:00 someone def said this im sure in here, but in they absolutely removed a LOT of important story shit with this episode from the LN. From how long hes been locking himself up(Weeks), and how the group was actually tryin to find a way to get him out, the idea to have someone sleep with him, how it was Rudy's idea to marry Roxy after the incident, and the most important one, where Rudeus telling Roxy about his past life.(he tells it as a 'what if' tale but that still VERY IMPORTANT). i know they pressed for time n shit, but damn i feel like those are too important details to just....remove from the story. Then again, they are telling this thru Rudeus' side of the story but idk. im leanin towards i dont like it.
2024-06-26 15:16

SmooveGazz

I understand you’re trying to make a point, but as an African please name one place where that’s practiced lol

JJ Gilmore

Yeah that as well because he didn’t tell anyone about his past life

Thomas Yang

Definitely creates a lot of misunderstandings for anime-only viewers. I feel the same way.

DocGreen

Well he's gonna die without it so it had to happen regardless

JJ_loves_日本

All I’m gonna say is welcome to Isekai where Harem is a popular genre here.

DocGreen

It wouldn't be their character to cheat. If this was someone like Elinalise story and she cheated or Ariel I'd have no problem with it. But Rudy and sylphy have shown they only want one man from season 1 it be inconsistent character writing for them to cheat

Hueki

Harems / Incest, all that other stuff needs to be brought back more in Anime again, no more of those lame ass harem-baits, incest-baits. Isekai is good for this stuff usually thankfully

Papi Martini 🍸

In the LN, Elainelise essentially tricked Rudeus into asking Roxy to marry him by telling him she was most likely pregnant

Papi Martini 🍸

Elainelse’s odd favoritism for Roxy is explained by her having known Roxy FAR longer than she’s known Silphy

Deep

U actually a dick bro.

Six Paths

I don't know about that first part, but yea, definitely not the worst thing he's done.

Yolo Samurai

Sheera: Well if anyone is to blame, we blaming Rudy! Me: well lets be fair here...she pinned him down AND he only has 1 hand now AND he was weighed down by his emotions. What was he to do? 🤔😏😆

LY

@DocGreen, you are bringing another point that is unrelated to the point I am trying to make. I am not questioning the characters' consistency. I agree they wouldn't cheat because they are designed to be the perfect waifus but that is not my point. If that's something that I would have to spell out as well then this is not gonna go anywhere. I know people here are gonna defend this series no matter but I hope they also try to understand others perpective rather than just be defensive.

Huemon_Nottabear

Rudy the type of guy that's only good when he has a sticky dick. Also, why do I keep expecting Zenith to randomly say meep.

Hueki

Harem is great, fk everyone that hates it lol

Yolo Samurai

Also, we actually do know how Zenith felt about the 2 wives situation if you read the original source material. It explains that she was upset about it at first, but because of Rudy's words she was able to be at piece with the whole situation. It also makes some of the stuff she mentions about how much she loves Rudy for that, hurt that much more because of this whole situation. I wish they had shown that season 1 even though it was more of an inner dialogue.

Krype

Dude Darren you trying so hard to defend this man replying to every comment you see about it 😭

Arturo

Yeah this episode was out of control. Hopefully Sylphie takes the news well since this is what we doing now 🤦🏾

Darren Banks

lol I was entertained for a couple hours. It’s a new day now though. Considering what’s coming up in HOTD episode 3, I’ll be ready again. See you Sunday 🤪 but it’s work:30 right now. Hope you have a great day.

Offw0rlder

Imma say it, it ain't on Rudy at all. That's on Roxy. Ya'll see how quickly he was correcting himself with his mind together. She pulled up on him when his lot was vacant, he probably wasn't even present for the sex. (From an anime only standpoint of course.) Sylphie gave him the go ahead for concubines on day 1 of them being together anyways, and Rudy wasn't interested & upheld that until Roxy.

gingerswag7

What kind of whack ass comparison did you just attempt to make?

DocGreen

You are just making assumptions. He could've said no he could've pushed her off. He didn't have to kiss her back. They are both equally to blame. No need to make excuses for either

damein brown

Great and funny ass reaction! This show is flames!!

Ace S

yeah this reaction was hilarious 😭, like someone else said they both should be blamed for cheating but the anime makes it seem like polygamy is normal so Elise didn't do anything wrong by suggesting it unless she knows sylphie is against it

1mikeap4

Do we know for sure she was teleported straight into the crystal by the mana disaster? Maybe she was simply teleported to Rapan, and then while dungeon diving to make money for a return journey she stepped on some trap teleport circle that sent her to the crystal.

Nah I’d win

It’s pretty obvious. Just because it’s fiction doesn’t make it so u can’t hold it to certain moral standards. How hard is that to comprehend lol

Nah I’d win

Point still stands, just because it’s fiction don’t make it less morally questionable, especially to then go ahead and defend the actions based off of that when it’s clearly about principal

1mikeap4

Paul did it because he was horny from not being able to have sex while Zenith was pregnant. He kept it a secret until it came to light that Lilia was pregnant. Rudy did it because he was grieving the death of a parent and seeking physical affection to shake him from his stupor. Also, he seems to plan on telling Sylphy as soon as he sees her again.

1mikeap4

Either honestly.

1mikeap4

The whole Eris thing is just a big misunderstanding. Even now she thinks her and Rudeus are still a couple and is working herself ragged every day to become good enough for him.

Christian Clark

the mental acrobatics you did to convince yourself worshiping panties isn't sexual, impressive.

Marko

Yall were being mad weird this episode, it was honestly kind of a hard watch. After all the info we received on how Rudy operates and how Sylphie feels its crazy to think yall are still viewing this show through the lens of our real life setting and not theirs. Was it fucked up he cheated without asking? Sure. Is polygamy inherently bad or immoral? No, that's subjective for everyone. That's like shitting on someone for having a different religion than you. Its all just different morals and values but none are inherently wrong. Hope yall can see past this foolishness next episode.

Anudeep

Just looked it up. Bruh...what?

Mr. K

Which I find it funny cause they have seen a harem related anime before and had no issues with it, so it's weird, I guess it has something to do with rudy keeping a monogamous promise to sylphie

I VisiBomb I

this has nothing to do with the episode in particular, but the curse on elinalis made me think... we know that they treat PTSD from the cave delvers like its a curse, right? what if her curse is just these people interpretation of an addiction??

Persto

Honestly you make a really good point, however I'm not sure if they've ever mentioned anyone else having the same "curse" as Elinalis. Because at least with those who went into dungeons and were "cursed" to return, it was like a well-known phenomenon type of deal. But it's definitely hella interesting you brought it up

Melllow grizzly

This is also crazy considering Roxy is old as fuck and rudeus is like 15 or 16 here 💀

Aniki Pft

I think it's perfectly fine to feel off about this episode. Like no fucking shit Poly relationships exist. It's everything that came before that. And I don't know why people are upset that a married couple(and Lupa) personally may not fuck with the idea. Of course it's one thing to bash those who participate in Poly, but it's fine to not like it. Not everyone foreshadowed Rudy possibly having multiple partners.

Aniki Pft

@Mr. K harem anime are harem anime bro

John Fleming

They let Kevin Samuels write one episode of anime per year.

Mistico

This series is seriously suffering from a lack of episodes and it surprise me, that a show that is so well received, from a light novels sales perspective, can't get more episode per volume for it. take a look at shows that are as popular or less popular that still have gotten better adaptation. -RE:ZERO, I'm not completely caught up to the light, but if you look at the 2nd cour of season 2, their were multiple episodes with 26-28min runtime without intro or outro. - 86 managed to adapted 23 episodes out of 3 volumes, that's 7 episodes per volume and 86 has far more action scenes than some of these MT scenes that were cut. - Apothecary dairies, I always mention this because it show that a series can get a 1/1 adaptation retain the viewers attention with simply inner monologue/dialog. Apothecary dairies manage to get a 12 episode per volume adaptation and I'll argue that MT has the same amount of words per volume as AD has, but still MT got a 4 episode per volume adaptation, which is honestly brutal. Each volume of MT takes you around 6 to 8 hours to read through at a comprehensible speed and they crammed that into 1 hour and 20mins. I'm kind of late to this post and I can see that there are a lot of other commenters that already mention the changes to this episode, such as: the bar discussion scene, the changes to make Roxy the initiator or simply some other changes that complete change the way anime only's would view the story. 1 cut content that I wanted them to add from Roxy was this quote " it was cruel, she choked out " my feelings for you were obvious, but no one told me about you being married until way after the fact. it wasn't fair". everyone knew Rudy was married before they rescued Roxy, they saw what was happening with the both of them during this time and they still didn't say anything for more then 2 weeks. and this is were Rudy was the one to pull Roxy not the other way around. it was unfair of them. I think this series also needs a way for the viewer to keep track of time. they could do it like Frieren did or 86, with a line in the top corner or bottom. cause those who don't know, this journey took them 4 months from portal to portal and another 2 to 3 weeks to get home. I wanna say 1 last thing that might be consider a light spoiler, but those that are hating on Eris needs to check the story again. at the end of the 1st season, Eris says that he loves Rudy and I don't remember if it was said, but she went off on a "self-exile" to become stronger. after the events with Orsted she felt as if she failed to protect the 1 person that she loves and she doesn't want that to happen again. the episode that Rujierd returns was suppose to be the episode that made Rudy question whether or not he made the right choice back then or did he misunderstood the situation. and come on, Eris a girl that always express her emotion through violence would wright a letter to express her emotion and he doesn't even question it? this series needed more time to flesh out some of the crucial cut contents.

Jonatan Tercero

I promise you nobody reading all dat gang

jeremychavez

After watching this episode I IMMEDIATELY Wanted yalls input 😂😂😂😂

Jamie See

Just so y'all know the reason elinelise didn't really react negatively to rudy sleeping with roxy is because she is actually the one who got roxy to sleep with rudy in the light novels. Unfortunately that conversation was cut out and wasn't in the episode.

Kevin Brown

I get the reaction they had. Just gotta remember to keep an open mind when watching anime. The way it played out is much more realistic than any other show I've seen with any harems or polygamy. Rudy been away from his wife for months, both his parents are gone, Paul dead, Zenith a possible vegetable the rest of her life. Now a woman he has literally worshipped his whole life is making a move. I've seen men break covenants under way less pressure. She was there to comfort him and Silphy wasn't. Not her fault and that doesn't make it right but I can see how one would end up in that situation with all things considered and it being a fantasy world. Idk how anyone banked on Elinalise being some kind of good role model to follow this episode. She is an elf who is cursed with nymphomania and has probably had more lovers than double the maximum human lifespan of the setting of the story. Her response wasn't far off from what I'd realisticly expect from cursed, nympho, elf, grandma.

Moon Man

ngl this whole Rudy having Roxy be the side piece thing is turning me off from this show. I just want a normal grounded fantasy with normal relationships, not "I love her... but I also love her... I'll just take both..." . Also what Roxy did is INSANE to me (like y'all pointed out) that pretty much the moment she knew Rudy had a family, she went to go cache in her one night stand card.

Moon Man

You said he could've said no? He was emotionally vulnerable + visibly starved + obviously liked her + it was literally at night, in a locked room with a bed. It was known to us and himself that he wanted to stay faithful to Sylphie, Roxy literally forced him to into being unfaithful by pulling him onto the bed and then getting on top of him. I seriously can't see a world where the blame is equal, Sheera and you are just quick to blame Rudy probably because he's a dude lmao.

Moon Man

I think its the "lock the door and pull him onto the bed after you learn that he has a family, is clearly starved, and emotionally unavailable" thought process that Roxy has when going to 'console' Rudy. Also he literally said he wanted to stay faithful to Roxy.

DocGreen

It's not about blame it's taking responsibility. Being emotionally vulnerable doesn't mean you can't speak. And there is something called body language. Roxy is small he could've easily pushed her off or showed some resistance. He not only kissed her back but clenched her hand and wanted to keep touching on her afterwards. She took advantage of him. But she did not rape him

Eric

Time to drop it my boi

Jamie See

Alot of things this episode was changed and cut. Reason supposedly is author made tweets talking about wanting to make things more acceptable for a wider audience which is concerning. Even though how things went this episode in some aspects(in my opinion) might be worse then how they happened in the light novel. But since the author has a say in this adaptation and seemingly took part in making these changes and over all is involved makes it better than the studio being the ones who change things.

Seibahhh

not the real world, different culture and most importantly... its fiction

Seibahhh

in the LN rudeus was the one that grabbed and threw her on the bed

Godrick

Stick with it. It's actually important to the overarching story THAT HAS NOT BEEN REVEALED

Tre Staples

Right lol cause if he didn't like this, I got bad news🤣🤣

Tre Staples

The anime did a really crap job adapting this whole thing, left a bunch of stuff out that's makes this look way worse than in the LN. Like, it's still not a pretty situation, but the anime is missing mad context🤦🏾

Panda_senpai

Y'all do realize he had to cheat no matter what man god literally told him to sleep with one of the beast girls it's better to sleep with someone u like rather than someone u don't and he wouldn't of recovered without Roxy doing that they were wrong to leave him alone Roxy did the right thing cause he would of stayed depressed if not for Roxy

Daniel Borrego

yep and his former teacher. imagine a 50 year old teacher taking advantage of a depressed 16 year old student

Panda_senpai

Also sylphie told Rudy u can sleep with someone else if u want cause I probably can't have kids but once again no matter what he would of cheated so idk why y'all think this is trash he would of cheated no matter what and y'all know that man God told him to cheat

Panda_senpai

What do u think take advantage of means when it comes to sex ? It's pretty much rape like what imagine trying to tell a depressed person missing one arm who obviously hasn't eaten in days to fight back like what ? Shut up no matter what he would of cheated anyways man God told him to fuck a beast girl so it literally don't matter

Panda_senpai

And man god still told him to cheat your point is what 🤷🏾‍♂️no matter what he would of slept with someone else

Panda_senpai

Most of the comments seem to have forgotten MAN GOD TOLD RUDY TO CHEAT SO WHO CARES THAT HE FUCKED ROXY. At least he cheated with someone he likes/respect instead of the beast girls man God told him to sleep with the beast girl and poly is normal in this time so let's stop acting like fucking kids people can date more then one person and it not be weird y'all cringe as f acting like people can love more then one person

Six Paths

They did mention early on that in this world a person is considered an adult at 15, so the societal norms are different. Plus for Roxy's race 50 is the equivalent development of a young adult, since they live till about 200. Still a large age gap, but a bit less weird on Roxy's part with that context in mind.

ConquersAll

Only Milis followers believe in taking one wife. Milis is a religion primarily practiced by humans. Most other races including humans born on different the continents like the demon continent don't see anything wrong with having multiple wives. Remember that this worlds morality is different from our 21st century morals and are much closer to the morals of the middle ages.\

Chad

Yall are getting triggered off a made up culture in a made up story about life in a completely made up world. lol

ichigekix

Stop watching then, you can't handle the rest

ichigekix

They cuttin context left and right bruh. LN made it more natural

Chad

nothing to see here. just westerners and americans doing what they do best, getting mad about other cultures they dont agree with LOL

Ivan Tsu

No comment forgot what Man God said, it's just irrelevant. Anyone can understand that just because he told Rudy to cheat doesn't mean he needs to or should at any moment. Also Man God's advice was only about the beast girls, not Roxy. So he definetely didn't have to cheat

Arsean Wilbon

ahh western logic on an anime that actually has polygamy as the norm lol.

Gabriel Souza

I mean, i wouldn't do it because i was raised differently, that's not what was taught to me, but in many cultures this is normal, in the universe of Mushoku obviously is normal too.

Gabriel Souza

Lol, drop it, you're not gonna like the rest then

6CatsInAnAlley

Paul is smiling from the heavens watching this unfold

Wiggly Gecko

I mean its normal in this world that you can have multiple wifes if you dont follow Millis and we cant forget that Elinalise just found out that Silphie is her granddaughter. She probably spend more time with Roxy because they traveled together after the teleportation and has a closer bond with her. So she prioritises roxy over Silphie.

Gabriel Souza

If you don't like it, don't do it, it's that simple, judging other people for doing something legally permitted just because you don't think it's right doesn't make sense.

Gabriel Souza

@this a long ass username Polygamy is "live out fantasies"? You know literally nothing about the history of the world you live in, do you? That's just sad dude...

Aniki Pft

Yeah bruh but who judged anybody?

Daniel Huitron

I couldn't agree more. This reaction with yall was hard to watch. Take it for what it is. We all saw this coming that Rudy is going to take multiple wives. Also BIG L on the anime adapting this episode.

asahinspiration

I knew it was coming but I'm not about it

YungZeus

Y’all are mad goofy.

YungZeus

Just say you’re weird

YungZeus

@Gabriel “if it’s legal, it’s alright” weird ass

Katsu Imagitian

Nah man this is hilarious. I'm laughing the entire reaction.

YungZeus

Damn, you goofy asf

hypokokoro

this wasn't acceptable in our modern world but the time period here in their world is different from us and the norm is different so and it's also fiction, but I also get it, I'm also conflicted lmao

Oximus

I’m just here for the ride. I don’t feel any kind of way about polygamy. It’s wild how they went about but I’ve seen a lot of people say the author changed how things are going in the anime. And apparently some context was cut out as well. I imagine this was much more, digestible? In the LN. What I really want to see is Rudy pull up on Eris with his STACKED harem 😂💀😭

YungZeus

It does tho…

Vayne

The LN definitely eased into the Roxy situation alot better and the stakes for Rudys mental health were alot higher. Rudy was actually completely ruined and was essentially gonna spiral into suicide had roxy not stepped in, and it was more than just a bang and he was good so this definitely felt like kinda awkward in comparison

Panda_senpai

Because man god said he wouldn't tell him anything about what would happen if he went so of course he didn't say anything about Roxy he ain't say nothing about Paul either now did he ? And he obviously would if he had stayed and sylphie once again told Rudy u can have another girl if u want and stop putting normal rules in a fantasy world poly is normal he's not a follow of mills so he can date as many people as he wants 🤷🏾‍♂️

Dylan

What culture has ever had polygamy as a norm for the general person and also been a successful culture?

Jimmy

Ok. My bad, hear I was thinking this was a world of swords and magic you know fantasy... Geeze

FreshxEli Tv

If I tell you to go sleep with someone because I didn’t wanna do it and I tell you why I won’t do it and what the person needs to do it’s not pressing so Roxy walked in that room by herself and said ima fuck him back to health stfuu and read a book 💀💀💀😂💀🌚

Jimmy

It's still a part of western belief. Which is where Roshi is watching this from (I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure). Sooooo....

Jose silva

Bros the anime did this event so wrong

Uriel

Man, being a man is tough. Rudy hated Paul long enough to become him. I couldn't finish this episode alone. I had to see the reaction

Luhbabytay

It doesn’t matter…

kale k

The retard under you. Lmao

E

Also are we forgetting who Elinalise is? Until Cliff it was NEVER in her character to be with one person. Hell Paul and Elenalise from what we know were quite open in their relationships.

danial javady

the way i see it is that the anime, probably due to budget and deadline constraints, didn't have enough time to properly display how bad of a place Rudy was in. If Roxy wasn't there for Rudy at this time, he would've been in a much darker place and perhaps irredeemable. Elinalise said he would be fine but remember, she's allowed to be wrong. If you don't like the portrayal of this episode, i think that's fine, but objectively speaking I think it's clear Rudy would've been thrown in to the deep end mentally. As a character he looks like he's 1 tragedy away from becoming a deadbeat/villain/anti-hero(or whatever). Roxy undid a lot of the damage here and prevented him from going down a bad path. no one's a fan of people having multiple partners but i've already gotten past it at this point.

E (edited)

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2026-10-26 09:00 And increase we forget, his dad, now his friends, God all said take another wife. While Sylphie has openly stated openness to Rudeus taking a concubine (ep15 of this season, 6:30 into the ep). By all accounts there have been signs of something like this happening for the majority of the later half of this season.
2024-06-27 03:21 And incase we forget, his dad, now his friends, and God all said take another wife. While Sylphie has openly stated openness to Rudeus taking a concubine (ep15 of this season, 6:30 into the ep). By all accounts there have been signs of something like this happening for the majority of the later half of this season.

And incase we forget, his dad, now his friends, and God all said take another wife. While Sylphie has openly stated openness to Rudeus taking a concubine (ep15 of this season, 6:30 into the ep). By all accounts there have been signs of something like this happening for the majority of the later half of this season.

HypeRec

and they didn't make roxy a rapist

HypeRec

I mean he spittin maybe a lil too much but he spittin

Delinda Arts

Rudy:... Elanise: PAUL DID! Rudy: Periodt!!!!

Stellarnut

I totally understand the modern day opinion on this whole multiple wives thing and all that, but ya'll gotta realize not only is this a fantasy world but this is a fantasy world in like almost medieval times lol, people had a much different mind set based on whatever circumstances they were going through at the time than people have now. Even in real life people legit acted closer to these people than to how we all act in the age of social media and equality and everything else we have going on and now deem "normal".

Nesko_Pie

Reincarnated After Cheating on my Wife 😂😂😂

Elijah helewa

This episode was a bad portrayal at how broken Rudy was. At the start of the episode it has been around a week plus. The whole party including roxy tried to cheer him up repeatedly but he was like an empty shell responding "yeah" but not doing anything. The party went to a bar after realizing how bad it was and brought up that something needs to be done. Elinalise and Geese said it would turn out alright eventually but even they weren't entirely convinced due to how rudy was acting. Elinalise was the one who suggested sex to cheer rudy up but said she can't and it would need to be with someone rudy feels close with so basically only Sylphie who was not there. Roxy wasn't just taking advantage for sex, she really thought that was the only choice to bring rudy back to normal.

KENXO

i mean, this is anime soo... its ok but irl this shii is wild

Joseph Adams

This particular world has a lot of religions and the only one that doesn't practice polygamy is the milis faith. Outside of then it's a fairly common practice. Different world logic

David Rose (edited)

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2026-10-26 09:00 If someone who has been forced to physically love as many people as possible under pain of death talks to you about emotional love. You can probably take that to the bank. There are probably very few people in this world who have been forced to think about, and deal with love as much as Elinalise has. Her character is an amalgam of all the best and worst metaphors about people who work in the sex industry and how they are seen. A true anchor character for Rudy, and not one whose ideas or advice should be so easily discarded.
2024-06-27 06:34 If someone who has been forced to physically love as many people as possible under pain of death talks to you about emotional love. You can probably take that to the bank. There are probably very few people in this world who have been forced to think about, and deal with love as much as Elinalise has. Her character is an amalgam of all the best and worst metaphors about people who work in the sex industry and how they are seen. She is almost human trafficking personified. A true anchor character for Rudy, and not one whose ideas or advice should be so easily discarded.

If someone who has been forced to physically love as many people as possible under pain of death talks to you about emotional love. You can probably take that to the bank. There are probably very few people in this world who have been forced to think about, and deal with love as much as Elinalise has. Her character is an amalgam of all the best and worst metaphors about people who work in the sex industry and how they are seen. She is almost human trafficking personified. A true anchor character for Rudy, and not one whose ideas or advice should be so easily discarded.

Kyle DeForest

Tbf, Elinalise knew Roxy way before finding out Sylphie was her granddaughter, there’s always that perspective in Elinalise’s questionable solution and seemingly total disregard for Sylphie

Justin Jackson

I feel like the “reincarnated after cheating on my wife” idea is lowkey good asf. Now I wanna see it💀😭

Moose

I hate the way they did this episode. They did 2 things terribly: rudeus’s depression and the lead up to Roxy’s decision. In the LN it shows that rudeus is in the worst state he’s ever been, including after when Eris left him, but they tone it down so much in the show. They were worried he would never recover and they were going to lose him forever. They had a conversation and tried to come up with the best way to help him. We get everyone’s perspectives and thoughts to help understand the conclusion they came to. Because they legitimately thought it was the ONLY thing they could do to save Rudy. But without all that context it just paints Rudeus and Roxy in a COMPLETELY different light. Sure they drop a couple lines about them talking before Roxy got with Rudy but only about 10% of the content and importance is actually conveyed. What an infuriating episode to watch having read the LN.

King Rama

Yeah this was by far the worst adaptation episode. It missed so much just to rush the trip back home and close out the season with two marriages

Jmoney

Nah you 100% right. All the people in the comments trying to “add context” or saying “because it’s another world” or that “our society was like that not too long ago” are grasping at any and everything to justify trash/bad behavior. Roxy took advantage of the situation to sleep w/ Rudy which is bad regardless of context. Rudeus still cheated on his wife regardless of his depression. And for all the people trying to use the medieval/fantasy setting as a means to justify things because it’s the worlds norm doesn’t pardon Rudy of his actions cause he was a 34 yr old male in the modern world when he died, he should have some sort of established moral compass, but instead uses this setting as a means to “justify” his outlandish behavior and actions. As much as I love fantasy/medieval settings. To many stories/fandoms use it as a means to live out or give safe havens to things that would get them looked down upon by societal norms. Your 10000% valid in your feeling and I believe this show serves as a litmus test showcasing how outlandish people can be if given a “proper” means to justify themselves and honestly anyone who thinks that way should be monitored.

Skebaba

>so is lying to your family that youve lived another life Nigga you do know that from Asian POV Reincarnation is the NORMAL post-death outcome, right? So EVERYONE has lived other lives...

Skebaba

I don't think she'd have had THAT many kids, since she's a PURE ELF, unlike Sylphie (who is a tribrid)

Ivan Tsu

I didn't put any rules though? Cheating seems to be as bad in Mushoku as it is for us. But I'm totally fine with polygamy being normal in the show. These 2 are completely different things. but tbf, it seems there's a lot of context missing in this episode compared to the LN

Gabriel Souza

@YungZeus The concept of what's right or wrong in others people's lives is not for you to decide, stupid ass

Gabriel Souza

@Aniki Pft Sorry man, i misinterpreted your comment, my bad.

KeShon August-Mcclure

All I'm saying is nobody talks about Uzui but have mad stuff to say about Rudeus

kale k

What an actual fucking dumbass lmao.

Shaquille Hinds

As someone who's married and polyamorous I found this episode's reaction hilarious. I read the light novel years ago so I can't remember much but I do agree with the comments about how they portrayed this episode. Psychologically there a lot of things left out from both Roxy's and Rudeus' perspective. The question now is, will Eris comeback and if she does what will happen given elf granny's speech?

Dylan

Dude just lost his parents and was on the verge of suicide, maybe you can cut him a little slack…..

Dylan

I don’t think anyone said it wasn’t cheating, it’s just removing all the context from the situation is disingenuous. It’s not just “Rudy was horny and wanted to get his dick wet” and “Rudy’s sad, I’m gonna take advantage of him.” The situation is extremely complex and dumbing it down to “just cheating” does a disservice to quality writing.

Dylan

Being capable of thinking critically is a self report ?

ZOOM

rudy didnt hate paul

ZOOM

nah i defintely dont agree with you, you gotta rewatch the episode, cause you clearly missed and didnt understand roxy, rudeus and the situation, you are talking like elinalize knew best, and that leaving rudeus alone would work, but its roxy who knows rudeus best, and she knows how depressed he can get without being able to do get out of it on his own. you say sylphie would help him and im sure she would, but he would never get to her, because he was stuck in place depressed and would have starved to death in that room, and she wasnt anywhere near. roxy knew all this and did what was best in the situation since nothing else worked. and the sex was only a part of what helped him, it just got his mind of things and made him get out of that spiral of sad thoughts, it was her words afterwards that truly helped him. you were talking like she only did it for her own selfish needs, saying shes ''from the streets'' when she just wanted to help the man she loves

Dylan

If you think that dude is a degenerate then I can’t even imagine what your standards are. You gonna be single for life 😂

Dylan

When 30 of those years were spent in a single room I don’t think they really matter….. There’s a reason he refers to his reincarnation as a “do over” and not a continuation. He’s still immature, that’s the point of the story. Seeing an absolute loser evolve into a decent human being. The path to redemption and healing isn’t linear. He’s going to make mistakes and have relapses. It’s a part of the process and what makes this story so real. We’re not using “character development” to excuse his actions, we just understand that people make mistakes and grow from them. That’s how people obtain the very thing you’re complaining about a lack of… maturity.

Jmoney

But 30 of those yrs weren’t spent in a room tho……. so what’s your point. He was a teenager when his abuse happened. Stop babying this grown ass man, cause regardless of the circumstances he made the CHOICE to stay stunted after his abuse and refused to accept help, which is why Norn’s plotline in the beginning of the season is so important because she didn’t follow in his footsteps and reached out to the hand extended to her.And please stop trying to brush it over or generalize it as him being a loser going through growing pains for character development. In lore he has displayed multiple acts of SA, attempted SA, incest, pedophilia, infidelity, and etc. This 💩 doesn’t get a simple pass of well he learned or is learning from his actions because unironically he faces little to zero repercussions for these actions and gets a pass because the people actually born to this world with this as their base worldview would have no ground to judge him on. And please miss me with any “left out LN context” bs because i know damn well the real reason he was put in the situation that got him killed in his ordinary life and funny enough in this new life he tried to go even further w/ Eris in this life, but because it’s a “medieval/fantasy” setting the people in the world brush it over and act like nothing happened.

Doughboy 1027

I dont agree with how any of them handled this situation. Polygamy, like any other relationship should be something agreed upon before getting into the relationship... BUT...Do they not know about polygamy? They seem real bent out of shape simply by the premise of Rudy being with two (or more) women. 🤣🤣🤣

Tzezuko

The anime skipped some key details that the LN included. Elinalise told Roxy to go to Rudy and that sex might be the only thing to get him out of his funk; Elinalise also later lied to Rudy that Roxy was pregnant and that he needed to marry her. I'm glossing over even more but needless to say, the anime gave us cliffnotes of the full situation. Polygamy is also the norm of this world outside of the Millis Kingdom. Rudy looks at the world with OUR WORLD sensibilities still but in actuality, Paul having more than one wife wasn't a big deal in the Asura kingdom, where they lived. The Greyrat family is notoriously lusty and usually has multiple partners/lovers so it's also an expectation for them not to be monogamous and to partake in the practice of having multiple spouses/lovers. Slyphy never expected Rudy to be exclusive and even said as much in an earlier episode when he professed he would be to her. That being said, I am not AGREEING with how Rudy didn't protest or at the very least tell Roxy before sleeping with her that he was married. I am acknowledging that the character was in a confused mental state and Roxy took advantage of it and slept with him to both pull him out of his funk and take what she wanted. This was always supposed to be a messy situation; it shows how imperfect a person is, especially in grief.

JotaroDrake

Look, real life ? FUCK NO. But in the context of this show and these characters only I like it

Deep

U did nothin man in replies tryna clearly spoil shit being a piece of shit.

Orion C

Anyone who thinks Rudy was at fault for this one just has a hate boner for my boy. By the plot of the story yeah it's all happy and he's gonna marry her, but he got raped. A trusted figure he's known since childhood took advantage of him when he was not in a state to give consent. Literally what she even admitted to.

Adox

This is so weird when you actually consider the fact that Roxy was a grown ass adult when she trained CHILD Rudy. And now suddenly she's in love with teen rudy

DocGreen

Not its not. Look up the movie wedding crashers where will ferrel crashes a funeral. He does to fuck women who's emotions are at an all time high or low. That's taking advantage same thing with Roxy. Rudy can still speak and move raping would be having sex with someone unconscious or against their will. She did neither of those things. He didn't say no and he would've if he didn't want it. He could've looked away turned his and gave several other signs of non consent. All he did was blush interlock his fingers with hers and kiss her back. I don't think you know what rape means

Myst

Leaving all this serious stuff out of the way , having an anime named : « Reincarnating in another world after cheating on my wife » would be fucking hilarious, but I’d understand how my boy Rudy is confused, y’all need to remember he fucking prayed to her panties for 2 whole seasons

Nah I’d win

Oh right, how could I forget about that. That’s that thing where woman with totally equal rights to man did double backflips out of joy when their husband brought home multiple wives which the wife totally consented to because she loves her husband so much? My bad bro. Just to clarify that shit has nothing to do with Polygamy as we know it. Woman had no choice because they would’ve gotten killed for stepping outside of their marriage whilst their husband could do whatever. Or are u meaning to tell me Sylphy will also acquire a harem and sleep with another man as soon as she needs some emotional support.

Nah I’d win

Sylphie is also in a lot of distress. I hope some guy fucked her back home, poor girl. Paul did it because he is horny, Rudy on the other hand not only cheated sexually but also romantically with feelings involved. That’s the whole reason Elinalise tried justifying why it worked for Paul & Zenith because it was just that, sex.

Xan Acktor

Ehhhh its not sudden.

Cyric Sherburne

I just hope Rudy gives half as much thought as to how to tell Norn about her dad and mom as he does his love life

K T

Roxy being an adult who taught Rudy when he was a child, pounce on him in a moment of depression is weird AF. Rudy keeping her underwear enshrined, and then going straight to justifying infidelity with a shotgun marriage before even knowing what Siflie's feeling are is still scumbag behavior.

NECOdes

here we go again, this is like the least controversial thing in this anime lol

llzlzz

You are definitely right,the truth that he totally is a weak guy was explained before this ep clearly,staff skip Roxy’s perspective annoy me too

Kd

When y’all react to the new episode have a tomato on standby for my sake n throw it please n thank u🤣

SoggySoup

Yeah literally the only inherently wrong thing about this was doing anything without sylphie’s permission first. But even then his state of mind was really bad and his childhood hero walked into his room and took advantage of it.

Landez97

If my grandma told my husband to marry the mistress who he slept with WHILE I'M PREGNANT WITH HIS KID, it'd be World War 3 lol. Everyone is getting put on a shirt, cause wtf?!?!

Landez97

Roxy took advantage of his misfortune for sure, but I fully believe he could've said no. He could've got up off that bed a 2nd time and left

SoggySoup

Apparently said details were changed/skipped by request of the author.

Ashanti Patmon

That’s a weird way to ask for a second wife

Kane

W Rudy real cheek chaser

JB

Uh, I hate when they skip important parts from the LN. No one wanted or could help Rudy. Roxy couldn't bear how depressed Rudy was after Paul's death, but she didn't know what to do. It was actually Elinalise who told her that sex is the best cure for man, so she did the only thing she was told she can do to help. Was it wrong? Of course, by our morals, definitely. Also, I'm not so sure it's ok for us to judge all their actions by our standards. In their world taking multiple wives for example is normal., but I can understand why we are so against it, we are all basically worshipers of Millis.

Lurtz

it's a shame the conversation with roxy after their “affair” isn't there (and many many other things). Rudy half-spoken of his reincarnation. which is super important for the relation between them imo. Compared to the ln, it's one of the least well-adapted passages sadly

Keynell Smith

Let’s be honest we all knew this was how this show was going this is Rudy we talking bout

Cyril

W Grandma

Yaboiroshi

Different world. Different morals.

Shawn Oxley

Sheera was quick with the call she knows the powers of the mumu Also thinking about it the man god did say to have relations with Linia or Pursena and it would give him greater happiness so he essentially just traded one of them for Roxy which he's better off doing anyways

xLithion

You guys act like polygamy wasn't around most of human history, even in the bible soo many people had multiple wives and concubines, and it is obviously common in this world also. I get that by modern day standards (which rudy should still hold) it is weird, but in this world it seems it is just something that happens, and we all know rudy has been a perv this whole show, i wasn't really surprised to be honest.

ZOOM

*wifeful reincarnation

thatNEET_

"Reincarnated in another world after cheating on my wife" is a CRAZY idea for an isekai! I'd love to see that happen! Weirdly enough, there is an isekai manga out there with a similar premise. It's called "Patchwork Hero", and the main character is killed by a jealous boyfriend after he finds the MC in bed with his girlfriend. There's also another manga out there about a guy who was already an isekai protagonist who had a bunch of wives in the other world, so one of them got jealous and killed him, sending him back to his original world. I don't remember what that one is titled, but to the best of my knowledge, there isn't an isekai about the protagonist getting isekaied after cheating on his wife.

Chowder

What a shame...

Asl43n

There is literally nothing wrong with Polygamy, you're all just trying to force ur own Western influence on others. You can't give any objective arguments against it from either an atheistic or a religious (if we take the Abrahamic religions) standpoint. But it is right that he naturally should have made it clear to both parties before engaging in anything, especially in his circumstances, so for that he is to be shamed.

THRAX117

man-god was doing read between the lines advice which if you realize from season 1 and this season his advices were keeping rudy away from roxy which you will find out why in turning point 4 where his new advice is not even advice but a weird favor that has a very dark outcome

bob berry

polygamy never works out for a reason

bob berry

plus not to mention that one of the person wanted him all to herself and he promise he wanted no one but her sooooooo

Kreed

L grandma, W grandma-in-law

Shadowangel09

She actively told him he could take a mistress on their first day in the house....

thatNEET_

Just for the record, Rudeus wasn't eating after he lost his parents, and although I can't remember which ones, some of the party members were worried that he'd die if they couldn't fix his mood somehow. That's why Roxy gave him the sinister sex.

Senjioh

Rudy is honestly one of if not the luckiest man alive, yeah he has trauma but all in all his life turned out really good in the end

Usagi

Roshii round 2 ?? YEAH?

Krimsonwulf

There is nothing shown in the anime to say that at all, outside of the Millis church Polygamy isn't frowned upon, it might not be super widespread but it isn't taboo either.

Krohv

That's fucking retarted and shit writing by a Dumbfuck author. Stupid bitch thinks every is solved by fucking its pathetic