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Family Squabble | Mushoku Tensei Ep 16 (Patreon)

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2021-11-01 23:06:50
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what a reunion!

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Kars

4:00 this is literally water 7 bro

Corey Leach

Yall niggas missed a whole psa that Paul put out a few episodes back lmao. He mentioned that Millis is Zenith hometown so that's where his home base was gonna be.

Night Shroud

25:32 “That was trash” Mother fucker, Rudy’s Mom is an S Rank Adventurer, she can take care of herself. Sylphie is a literal child. Potentially on her own. Of course he’s gonna be concerned for her. Y’all are fucking trash for giving Rudy smoke for that. Like come on now 🫤

CHUNTARO

like hell rudy knew his mom was S rank. His mom is no better than a ordinary Healer in his mind. Not to mention it's his initial reaction he blurted out, there's no logic in initial reactions. A.K.A Slyphie > Zenith in Rudy's subconsciousness.

Tich

Moronic Take. Paul did not go to any other continent for fear of getting norn hurt. So Paul the deadbeat, let norn think that about her brother which would crush any older brother, instead of being a parent and you know TELLING HER OFF until she respects atleast that he is Kin and that Rudy would put himself in serious harms way, for his siblings. Rudy woke up on the mot dangerous island with One of the most dangerous Men and a spoiled princess he must get home. There NO reason he should think the mana disaster spread like a days carriage ride or more. MORONIC. The only way he could survive and have her survive was to lock in, focus the whole time and bend the ethics and dillemas he's been building since Isekai'd. I know she's young but her and paul a fuckin' bums even later she takes after Paul. Rudy becomes more like zenith in nature. Also there are no rules in the demon continent, there is no authority, everything is like Pirate Code, Jianghu Code

TupperwareContainer

I think it's completely understandable that Rudeus didn't think the disaster reached Buena village considering he was in point black range and never saw how big its radius was

jesse almonte

This is my favorite part of the whole "child" Arc of the series.

Halibel

u still posting i justice bro?

CartierCasket

They kinda glossed over it in season one but in the episode when the beam hit everybody Ghislane said that she was the apprentice of Sword God

Legion

where's injustice?

Halibel

I'm getting worried lmao

Legion

They probably forgot.. or maybe it’s still processing.

MWS

i hate paul, fuck him, raped his childhood friend and stole her virginity, "attacked" Ghislaine when she was bathing, cheats o his wife, smacks his son without letting him explain himself because he felt inferior, encourages his son to be scum like him too then and then criticises his 12 year old son for not doing something when he didnt know a thing about what happened. ive seen enough anime to know we're going to go down the route of paul being right and rudeus growing from this but nah fuck that, rudeus has literally just tried getting home and protecting Eris

BlueSummer

Eris is best, she attack, and she attack. she can only attack. XD Great episode though, i can't wait to see the next the few chapters animated.

Jeremiah Wagner

Yep. After reading the LN and the novel I’m still on Rudy’s side

wavyesper

They're both justified in their arguments, but next episode we should be getting Paul's pov of what's been happening, it's gonna be a real tear jerker. For clarification, Rudeus does know about the adventure's guild rules and stuff, he knows you can see stuff posted on board's in the guilds. That's how they picked out jobs on the demon continent, but Paul's letter never made it to the demon continent. They finally left the demon continent a few episodes ago, so Rudeus wouldve went to the adventurer's guild in zant port and most likely seen the letter, but he taken by the beast people, stayed in the great forest for a few months cuz of the rainy season, and went straight to Milishion after. Rudeus didn't ask about his mom first because he assumed she was also here, Norn his little sister was there after all. Also the teleportation incident affected the whole fittoa region, to get a better picture you can look up the map of Mushoku Tensei

Cephandrius

I think its totally justified tbh that Rudy thought they weren't affected by the teleportation because when the ball exploded and caused the disaster it was pretty much right above Rudy and he was likely very far from his family's village. So it makes sense he thought it was a relatively small area of effect

hdwarrior

Ma boi paul back

hdwarrior

Nah in this episode i understood paul’s pov

Anatech

LIke ya'll said it's just s shitty situation. From Rudys perspective he didn't know how big the teleportation disaster was. His village was so far away that he didn't think it hit everyone home, so he assumed everyone was safe and it was just the city that got teleported.

Devlin Draconis

I remember the scene but forgot when it happen. Paul left the letter that explained that everyone but Norn was teleported and he was searching for them in Episode 11 when Roxy went to check on them and the family.

HaruhiDream

The fact that he didn't write a letter until he got to Millis tells me that letters don't go between continents. I'd imagine his dad's message wasn't sent to the demon continent either since rudy was constantly working jobs for the guild, he would have seen it.

Amzee

Some things to clarify about the sword styles: - they said Paul was advanced in all 3 sword styles (God, North and Water). that dog running was probably north style (it's a style with no fixed rules, it's only focus is winning the fight no matter what, using any tricks necessary. - When they were attacked by a masked familiar right before the mana disaster, Ghislaine swore on her master's name, the 'Sword God Gal Farion'. the sword god is the 6th world power and is probably the 'man who took her when she was a child'.

ShadowMan

Yea at the start i thought paul was a lil scummy but funny but after hearing all this and re watching it i fucking hate the pos he is such a scummy asshole

MWS

Paul’s POV: my 12 year old son got transported alone with a 14 year old girl to a completely isolated place that is one of the most dangerous places in the world, completely unaware of what’s happening here, he’s been trying to get home and protected his friend AS A TWELVE YEAR OLD (I don’t care if people say “but Rudeus is like mentally 40”, Paul doesn’t know that, to Paul Rudeus is just a smart kid and still not an adult) he saw my group kidnapping someone and tried to help, like a good person should and like I told him to when he was a kid, but nah fuck him

radeb

Bro at this point in the show you should know that no character is perfect and one dimensional like in other animes

SalmonYu

they showed Roxy and her reading the message from Paul on the last episode before they went on break

wavyesper

calm down, wait for the next episode. I like how you're not tryna see the situation from his perspective. You must have forgotten how Paul sees Rudy, he became a saint ranked water mage at 5 so Paul sees him as a genius, he even said he expected more from him. But ig some people just can't understand everything

MWS

It’s got nothing to do with that, Paul is just actual shit, I’d honestly say he’s on par with Gallus cleaner and he makes that horse guy look like a saint, there is no logic behind his reasoning at all, he’s just lashing out at his son for things out of his control

radeb

yeah but Rudy already passed the port where Paul's message was

J

That goblin slaying flashback is clearly foreshadowing rudeus becoming Goblin Slayer

MWS

Wavyesper , yeah and? Rudeus still got transported ages away, had no idea what was happening and was very clearly remorseful when he found out what happened, Paul is just a cunt, he literally is lashing out because he can’t do anything himself

FinalStardust

If I remember correctly the reason Rudy didn’t have a chance to check the adventures guild in Zant port is because he was abducted. So he literally never would have had the opportunity to check the adventures guild before this interaction.

HaruhiDream

He also got kidnapped by beast people immediately after being smuggled onto the continent and then went straight from Doldia to Millis.

Amzee

I think Rudy's reaction to ask about Sylphie first is because before he left for his job she was so fucking helpless without him and taking care of her had become sort of a reflex. he spent very little time with his little sisters and both Lilia and his mom were seasoned adventurers who could handle themselves, so it's understandable why he thought about Sylphie first. Still kinda sucks, but understandable

Brady

To be fair about him asking about sylphy and not his mom; Zenith is an S rank adventurer and one of the strongest people in the country and Sylphy is a 12 year old girl that knows some basic magic. It absolutely makes sense to be more worried about Sylphy

Cnedd11

Lol was that a goblin slayer reference

Kami_Psy

I think it was the way Rudy described his side of the story that really did it. He made it out to be like some cool grand adventure and his dad was probably suffering this whole time and looking for people to save. I don't think either of them is wrong to feel how they feel so honestly, it's just an unfortunate situation.

CuteAdorableDog

yeah and that's one of the reason's paul's outburst was uncalled for

MWS

Rudeus asked about Sylphie first because his moms an ex adventurer and strong enough to be in a party with paul and ghislane, i would've asked about sylphie first too

M.A. Da Costa (edited)

Comment edits

2026-10-26 09:00 One major saving grace for Rudy is that he was at the epicenter of the blast. How would he know just how far spread it was?
2021-11-02 00:02

vork88

eris is the one who wants to kill paul and ruijerd is like dont get involve in family fights

BlackAirForcesEnergy

That Goblin Slayer reference was legendary. Also, bro realistically what was Rudy supposed to do? He was basically reincarnated a third time he had no connections, no idea where he was, no money, had hardly practiced the language, no clue why he teleported in the first place. Was doing what he knew to do - go home. The dad is trippin just because Rudy isn't sad like him.

CannonHawk

I watched this and said damn, got real all a sudden. Loving this season so far.

DomThaPotato

This episode made me so mad and sad

xanderman

You also have to remember that Roxy took the posting at the port when they arrived. Rudy would have never seen the posting but who knows maybe there was an actual letter waiting for him at the adventurers hall.

Joshua Burns

My thing is I don’t even blame Paul that much Rudy has always acted older and more mature for his age so I assume Paul holds him to a higher standard than he would any normal kid, and the fact that Rudy didn’t even concern himself with his family even after hearing what happened just pissed me off

Julius

By the time the letter Paul made was sent to the Demon Continent Rudy was already leaving so he would have never seen it either. He didn’t see the one on Millis because the route they took for Ruijerd to travel, so him not seeing Paul’s letter wasn’t his fault, but I can understand Paul’s frustration. Although he shouldn’t have blown up on Rudeus the way he did, and he was on the most dangerous continent so Paul should’ve been more mindful of that.

Devin B

For a whole year and a half though it didn't even occur to Rudy to think maybe his family or anyone else is in the same situation as him. Paul is genuinely a trash person but in this instance he's right. Rudy made no attempt to look for his family while Paul spent this whole time trying to look for them to the point of looking how he does now. Paul was disappointed cause he knows Rudy is capable of more but didn't make the attempt to do so.

Julius

Exactly, Paul has to realize he was basically right where the blast was and had no idea that the blast radius would make it all the way to his village.

Joshua Burns

ArchbishopM there’s usually no logic to what people do in grief and Paul is still clearly in that state, seems like he’s mostly drunk a lot of the time

Julius

No, he was kinda fluent in Demon-God, but the rest I agree with you on.

Julius

Even if Paul sees Rudeus as capable, he’s still a 12 year old boy(at least from rebirth), which he payed no mind. Also Sylphie was someone who could barely take care of herself and relied on Rudy. His mom on the other hand used to be an S class adventurer so he expected her to be fine. He most likely believed his other sister was fine because he saw his other sister just fine, so you can’t really get mad at him for his thought process.

Crowski

Rudy didn't do anything wrong imo, he was teleported to the other side of their world and they had to survive somehow.Their "adventure" was not easy going at all. Paul did what he had to do to survive as well, same thing.

Devin B

It's the fact that Rudy didn't ask if there were any other victims of the blast. I would understand Rudy for not thinking the blast hit his family's village but the village he was in with Eris he probably could've asked about.

hector torres

Paul is just a thrash dad ever since he got the maid pregnant

Señor Gamer

Man this is some good writing, neither Rudy or Paul are wrong or right. It's just a really shitty situation. Like even though Paul is as scummy as you can get, you can literally see how hard he's been working to find everyone. Then we get glimpses of Rudy's anxiety after his talk with Paul. It's all sooo good.

Alellion

Man, I really dislike how the anime adapted this, tbh. Rudy straight up did nothing wrong, and during this ep they flipped the situation around to make him out to be some sort of incompetent asshole instead of the other way around here. A.) Rudy had really no reason to think/believe that the displacement disaster was as widespread as it actually was until quite a while into his journey. B.) HE'S 12. C.) "Why wouldn't you check the adventurer's guild for a note specifically addressed for this situation" lol how would he know to do this? Paul is coming at him like Rudy is an experienced adventurer, not a small pre-teen who was struggling in one of the deadliest parts of the world just to survive PLUS escort/look after his student. Goddamn.

Yoruka

The letter Paul posted in the guild was in the City called Zant Port which is the city they arrived in after the boat ride where Rudy went straight away to pick up the smuggled Ruijerd and then captured by the beast people. So it was not possible for him to see the message. Also the main reason Rudy asked about Slyphie first was since Norn was their he assumed his family was ok. Which of course wasnt the case. Just bad misunderstandings and assumptions by both sides.

Senpai

I did not expect the Rerorero'ing. 😂

Danny

Honestly its more a lack of communication and misunderstanding between both sides. Paul on one hand had alot of expectation and hope on his son (a good and a bad thing) to the point where he forgets that Rudy is a child (even though mentally hes 40) and believed that if its anyone who could do something, it would be his son. The disappoint he felt when he realized Rudy didnt even know about the situation even though it was probably global news was what tripped him up the most. And the way Rudy made his adventure sound was alot less dangerous than what Paul imagined. On the other hand, Rudy was teleported to an unknown land with only Eris and (fortunately) a friendly native that was around to help them. While he definitely did not think of how the light might've possibly teleported others since they were near the epicenter, it was hard to put it on him as he had his fair share of things to deal with. Both sides just need to have a talk. Paul needs to understand how much Rudy had to go through and Rudy needs to keep an open mind and think broader instead of simply in the moment.

VibezWorldwide

Both Paul & Rudy were in the wrong and right. This is a great example how you shouldn’t assume your strong friend/family member is doing alright just because they say so. But damn Rudy, should have been reading the room like Sheera said🤦🏾‍♂️

KB

Understandable but he thought they were ok since Paul and norn were there along with his mom being an s class adventurer. Unlike sylphy who relied heavily on him along with guilt of not being there with her despite that

Devin B

I would never stand up for Paul because he is genuine trash but I do feel him in this situation. Rudy made it seem like he had a good time when he got teleported while Paul obviously looks like shit because of how much he was doing to look for his family. What made it worse was that Rudy didn't consider to think maybe there were other victims of the blast. Maybe thinking his family getting caught up was too out of there for him to consider but he should've thought about the people in the place where Eris lives. Paul knew Rudy could do more but he's disappointed that he was focused more on other people than his family.

Tyrese Marshall

I don’t believe it made him look incompetent. I think it was a pretty good portrayal of how a parent would react in all honesty even when it doesn’t make sense

Jdogzero Silverblade

rudy is 100% innocent and his father did need a beating to wake him up.

Jdogzero Silverblade

when he was hit by the disaster he was already pretty stupidly far away from everyone. might be another reason as to why he didnt think of it.

PokeDexs

It’s hard for him to completely see them as family since he was reincarnated. The sister seen hurt and pissed me of as a big brother

Jdogzero Silverblade

give you a tiny hint. we saw sylphie this season. not saying where or with who but she was with someone we saw.

Devin B

But it's not like he was reincarnated as a 12 year old, he was reincarnated as a newborn and spent years with them so it would be strange if he didn't see them as family. Plus I don't blame the sister for how she acted cause she doesn't know Rudy since she was an infant when he left so she's basically seeing a stranger beating on her dad.

Thamor

We have no idea what Paul has gone through. Paul's last memory of seeing Rudy is when he threw him to the carriage with Ghislaine. I don't remember how long Rudy was teacher in Greyrat family, but I think it was at least 3 years then add demon continent. So it's been like 5 years when they last see each other. We only have Rudy's point of view what happened in those 5 years...

William Tippen

Y’all are bugging I’m NEVER asking about the non family member BEFORE the actual family… tf? That’s crazy. Once he saw the ONE sibling you’d think he’d deduce where are the others and include them in his inquiry. He’s deduced plenty of situations in a way a normal child wouldn’t why are mf hung up on him being a kid now? He’s a “kid” when it’s convenient for people.

Joshua Burns

So you telling me that you’d be more concerned about a girl than your own mother if some kind of disaster happened?

Juan D. Lozano

To be fair his mom was an adventurer, a powerful at that. Sylphie is just a kid but yeah he should of worried about his family first.

kindomax kamara

you have to remember in his past life he didn't speak to other people so he lacks basic social skills to be able to read the room and in the light novel is says he assumed that his family were together that is why he asked about sylphe

Totally Thomas

To Rudy's defense, he, Eris, and Ghislaine were the only ones he knew got wisped away from the teleportation magic. How was he supposed to know that this effect would reach his own village and be aware of the situation. However; I would've socked him too for being a wise-ass talking shit about being around women and and his absent mother.

Devin B

I understand him being worried about Sylphie but regardless of how strong your mom is that's still your family. He could've asked about his mom, Lilia, and his two sisters after asking about Sylphie but him not doing that made him seem insensitive towards his family.

Ads

I don't have the context of the light novel but I think part of the reason for why Rudy has acted the way he has is because he's from another world. His mindset is different. He might acknowledge Paul and Zenith as his parents of this world, but it's not the same as a normal kid and parent. Just an assumption. Definitely faults on both sides, which I like. The dialogue feels more realistic.

Taylor Wilson

Sheera its not that he wasn’t concerned about it its that he’s not omnipotent and can’t think of every possible outcome. His plate was full and it took everything he had in him just to get where hes at now... Paul be thinking his sone is god

Patrick

idk if this has been said, theres alot of comments on this one, but the reason Rudy had not seen the message from Paul was because Paul only left messages going up to Zant Port. (Also message was at the beginning of episode 11? during the intro i think) Zant Port is where Rudy went to save the beast children so he never ended up stopping at the adventurers guild. Rudy had been stopping in to the guild for missions on the demon continent, but Roxy was one of the first people to make it to the Demon Continent with the knowledge of the teleportation incident, and the two never crossed paths to trade info. Still shame on Rudy for not even considering the rest of his family.

Viela Guay

Tbh that's a really weird assumption to make. A very "I'm the protagonist of the universe so all interesting things must center around me" perspective. Like do you think the man directly under a bomb about to go off thinks "oh the blast radius will stop at me"?

Taylor Wilson

also really unfortunate all the stuff they left out that seemed pretty important from the manga like the stuff with buddy who calls rudi boss...but i have faith they’ll rectify it in the next episode... which I can’t wait for!!!

Nononanon

Bruh, thats not a goblin slayer reference...thats just a generic fantasy anime goblin reference. What?

Thamor

The maid was baiting him, so she was as trash as him. If you still don't understand the maid knew Paul from childhood so ofc she knew how to bait him to cheat.

Viela Guay

I mean from that conversation it's clear that Rudy didn't tell his story correctly enough then to Paul. He probably said "we made it to Zant port and THEN I got caught up in all this" implying some potential time between those events which he could've been expected to have checked (especially since he's been emphasizing the adventuring nature of his journey).

Thamor

For all attacking Paul we have no idea what he has gone through. We only see Rudy's point of view and they haven't seen each other for like 5 years. Last time Paul see him was when he knocked Rudy out and send him in the carriage with Ghislaine.

hector torres

Still thrash since he cheated anyway theirs no excuse

Viela Guay

A) There's also no reason for him to have assumed such a large magical event would've been entirely localized to his immediate area B) He's not 12 mentally which is what really counts here, his physical age doesn't affect his decision making drastically as been shown the entire series C) He literally just got done telling an entire tale about his experience as an adventurer, involving plenty of visits to adventurer guilds during the time, and even the specific mention of making to an area Paul knew there was info there. It was a general posting visible to all

MackXi

It's adapted the same way in the source just with less details. Paul expected Rudy to do more. He doesn't look at Rudy like he is twelve because Rudy (isnt twelve) doesn't act like he's twelve. He knows how to use the sword and magic. Paul is looking at him like "I expected you to at least try to look for us". From his perspective, Rudy just dicked around for that time.

Cephandrius

When I said relatively small area I meant small enough that it wouldn't reach his hometown likely at least a weeks ride away from him at Eris' town. Even if he gave it a passing thought it would be totally logical to think the explosion wasn't more than a few miles in diameter. Especially since up until this point he saw no evidence of anyone else being effected by it

11

What episode

Viela Guay

Tbh I love the people using the "He's 12" excuse when not only is this a situation entirely relevant to his decision making (which has been shown to not be drastically affected by his body), but also the fact that he's almost a full grown adult by the in-world standards of age, working a professional job at a high level

God Mage KI

@Devin B Rudy was literally at the epicenter of the disaster, he had no way of knowing it stretched for hundreds to thousands of kilometers like it did. As far as he knew, it was just him and Eris, and maybe Ghislaine, who would be fine on her own. Since the epicenter was literally in the middle of nowhere.

earthphoenix7068

sheesh if I had healing magic I'd be like Deadpool

samon

bro the teleportation disaster was a global thing, that's one of the main reasons why paul is so disappointed with Rudy. How come Rudy, who has been so brilliant since he was a baby, wasn't able to gather information about the teleportation disaster? (honestly the only reason paul got so upset is because he had high expectations for rudy)

Zonbi

Scotty, you're 100% right. Viela's argument makes 0 sense. Why would he assume the teleportation thing happened all over. All the magic he's experienced to this point had been localized.

samon

paul prolly didn't really meant all he said tho, it was prolly the frustation speaking, since he hoped that rudy would be able to help him found their family, but Rudy didn't even took notice of anything

Zonbi

Yeah, the rudy blame makes zero sense. Paul could have just explained the situation asap if it was that fucking important.

Jalen Christofer

in sensing a Endeavor redemption arc coming for Paul lol

Dantene

Whether you agree or disagree on how the reunion went down, all i know is when I read this whole situation in the manga, it was one of those moments where i was once again glad I didn't listen to the naysayers and continued this story.

Dune

To be fair, Rudy, Ghislaine and eris were like at the center of the disaster so he maybe figured that it was focused on them and didn't go any further than that. It's still kind of on Rudy though because he saw that disaster was spreading out so after getting their bearings after being teleported he should've been picking up info on to see if anyone else was teleported while also trying to find a way back home. Paul knows Rudy is pretty smart for his age so he was right in thinking he should've picked up on it. I am curious though if he'll start trying to find people in his journeys.

average enjoyer

it’s fucked how paul acted towards his son. yeah rudy was wrong in not learning more about the mana disaster, but instead of paul treating him like his son he treats him like one of his soldiers. yeah, his entire village was displaced but how would rudy know any of this? in the towns they’ve been to, they were broke and encountered all types of killers and theives. it’s not as if rudy was just dicking around. dude went through quite a bit to get where they are, and honestly if i were in his same shoes i would assume that erie and ghislane were the only ones affected by the blast. he can barely handle defending himself aganist stronger people, how can he search the continent attempting to find his family? feel like they both need to have a heart to heart and resolve this though.

YoungMaki

That’s how I saw it cuz he’s a 40 year old guy that lived 12 years in a child’s body. He will not have a normal familial bond with his parents because he seen his whole life as a second chance. And that’s probably why he told the story in that matter because he still doesn’t realize this isn’t an adventure game and there is real consequences to what’s happening around him.

JunpeiFES .

Roshi would come back with no sheera whatsoever around and he will ask his kid "where is lupa?" 😆

YoungMaki

It’s cuz he was in a bad state and was in a drunken state as well. And even though we know what Rudy went through, the way he told the story was obviously in a positive tone. And that probably pissed him off because he was looking for his wife and daughter and her mother as well as all the other villagers thinking they might be dead for all he knows, and Rudy doesn’t have a care in the world by the way it looks to him.

JunpeiFES .

Nah bruh, paul stayed quiet for a while! It is part his fault for not revealing the truth

22TheDon

They’re both in wrong but next episode it’s going to go more in depth, but even though Paul is justified in feeling what he is feeling, but he had no idea if Rudy was even alive or not, and Rudy was sent to the most dangerous continent with just Eris by his side, if Ruijerd wasn’t there they would’ve easily died. Rudy leaves out most of the bad shit that happened to him because he didn’t want to worry Paul, Paul just took it the wrong way and just expected Rudy to be perfect when he’s not.

Taylor Wilson

Really sucks the stuff they left out from the manga Their argument especially Rudy’s makes a lot more sense Like why he told the story he did and why he made an outburst towards Paul

22TheDon

Yeah his mom was an S rank adventurer so he assumed she would be fine and expected them to be together since Norn is with Paul

Taylor Wilson

I think Rudy's reaction to ask about Sylphie first is because before he left for his job she was so fucking helpless without him and taking care of her had become sort of a reflex. he spent very little time with his little sisters and both Lilia and his mom were seasoned adventurers who could handle themselves, so it's understandable why he thought about Sylphie first. Still kinda sucks, but understandable

22TheDon

In Norn’s defense she doesn’t know that’s her brother and he’s beating up their dad the most important person to her at this moment

Jolu

The problem with Rudy was that he did not inquiry about the teleportation incident at all so he probably thinks it was just him, Eris and Ghislaine that were affected. Also he is noob adventurer despite being strong so like he said it just never occurred to him to look for messages about something he did not think about.

LDD

dont matter its your mom lmao

22TheDon

Yeah it’s just Paul thinks Rudy is perfect when he isn’t. He just expects Rudy to know everything when that isn’t the case.

22TheDon

Yeah he did that so his Paul didn’t have to worry, if Ruijerd wasn’t there Rudy and Eris would’ve died, if Paul was transferred there with Norn he 100% would’ve died. Paul just misreads Rudy’s story. I hope next episode they show Paul’s mindset before he saw Rudy again and what he was going through

DeAndre Woodruff

It's interesting that they made this sorta different from the manga. Rudy's point hit a LOT harder in the manga so I've always agreed with Rudy's viewpoint. This episode made me rethink that buuuuuuut I still agree with Rudy in the end.

22TheDon

I just love hearing people’s different perspectives on this. Paul and Rudy are far from perfect but keep in mind they haven’t seen each other in 6 years, Paul should’ve been overjoyed that his son is alright and giving him hope since that’s the first family member he has seen since they got teleported

toptier sagat

I think Paul acted that way because he views Rudy as a capable smart person despite his age. Remember in the first season when Rudy sonned Paul multiple times. He probably assumed Rudy was doing the same thing he was doing, trying to search for his family.

Creepy Killer

When i first saw the city my brain instantly went to "Welcome to Scala Ad Caelum"

X__Dead Man

I think rudes asked about the girl and not his mom was because he probably thought that his mom and his dad got teleported together like how he and Eros go teleported together

devin billups

Also I think Rudy assumed that since Norn was there he assumed that the rest of his family was safe in the town and Sylphie would be somewhere else since he wouldn't know how close they would be.

Taylor Wilson

it's wierd your assuming he would know that it happened everywhere when he was literally next to where the explosion happened

Taylor Wilson

yeah it's wierd but the anime made rudy seem more guilty for some reason when in the manga Paul is clearly in the wrong

Creepy Killer

The letter paul is referring to is the one he sent to every guild at the end of that episode i think you might have missed it and only saw the part where he said he can't search for rudy but he believes he'll still be fine.

LWS Change

Very Simple: there was no information. The only other point that had information about it was the port where Rudy freed the beast children, so he never even once entered the adventurer guild there. Shouldn't it seem obvious that throughout their whole journey we, as the viewers who were following their journey, never heard anything about it either? The one party that had information about it was Roxy's party which they missed at the port. If this supposed event was as terrible as we now find out it was, we should have heard of it, but we didn't. Assuming it was small scale and only the people at the centre (Ghyslaine, Eris and Rudy) were affected would be the obvious play until you would hear otherwise.

LWS Change

A) Plenty of reason to do so. They were in the centre of the blast out in the woods, and they never even heard anything about it once on their journey(Information travels slow in this world, the moment information landed on the demon continent, Rudy etc had found their escort to Zant Port so they missed it) And once at Zant Port he went straight to the smugglers hideout and never once checked the adventure guild B) He was a man child with no actual life experience other than playing games and watching porn, being a shut in and running away from life, so to a certain degree you can't really call him an adult either. C) As mentioned in A, there was no way for him to get this information. Roxy and her group were some of the first people to arrive on the demon continent with the information of the mana disaster an they just narrowly missed each other and then he got captured etc. The guilds he went to prior to that had no information on the mana disaster because information isn't just pulled out of everyone's asses like in a lot of other stories.

L.C.

BIG moment for the series but even more BIG moments to come. Eris the goddess!

Zeklo

I love how this scenario parallels the one in the beginning. In that one, Rudy's dad assumed too little of Rudy and treated him like a child. Here his dad expects too much of him, and treats him as a prodigy. Really love the writing.

Tabbs

Yeah Paul is completely unfair towards Rudy in the manga and light novel, he actually looks really happy when Norn enters the scene and Rudy notices how happy he is and wonders why he isn’t that way towards him

L.C.

Does sheera still not know that the demon girl was talking about his disgusting amount of mana power instead of seeing his actual previous form? I thought they were corrected on that...

Tabbs

Ok Samon like you would just know that the Mana disaster was a global event. We saw Rudy’s adventure and not once was he informed or hinted at that it happened globally. Did you expect him to just get a random hunch?

Runner Up

He assumed his mother was safe, and not only that I think when he thought of the people of the village being teleported, he remembered the kid that used to bully Sylphie and then his train of thought led to Sylphie.

Pilligrim Ilyas

It's still doesn't excuse him for being such a douchebag for his own son. He's the adult here and should act as such in that conversation. Not trying to accuse his underaged son because he "should've done better". By the way, never say these words to your kids, that can really mess them up. Also, don't say that Rudeus is actually over 40. Because first: Paul obviously doesn't know about this. And second: Rudeus spent almost all his life in his room that gives me enough reason to believe that, though he might be in his 40s physically, he still didn't become a full adult mentally.

Akronymous

I know Paul was mad that Rudy for not going to the Adventurer's Guild in Zant Port, but didn't they get there, go get Ruijerd, and then he immediately got captured? He didn't really have a chance to check the Guild after that

Runner Up

While I think it's obvious Rudy should've considered others while he was traveling, I don't blame him for not doing so. He just had way too much on his plate. And it's not like he's frequently tasked with shit like this to be level headed in every situation. It sucks, wish he did consider his fam, but totally understandable how things played out. Dude was doing his best just to get home

L.C.

Don't really know how you can blame Rudeus quite as much for thinking about Sylphie before the mom because he has memory of his past life and that mother is technically like a step mother in a way. Rudeus had actual attraction toward Sylphie and he still cares about the mom but it isn't like a normal mother and son relationship. You can blame him but it isn't the same.

L.C.

Also he has memory of his past life and everything after that. It isn't a normal mother and son relationship. Rudy still clearly cares about his mom but it seems like it would be more of a step mother kind of relationship even though he is in the body of her child he still has the mind of his past life as well. Rudy liked and was attracted to Sylphie and really cared about her. You can blame Rudy for saying that but it really isn't the same when he asks about Sylphie before the mom. Also his mom is strong and he knows that she was in the guild the dad was in so Rudy would worry less about his mom compared to Sylphie since she wasn't as capable of taking care of herself back then.

RavinFox .

Paul does have a bad rep with the ladies tho. I know there's an atmosphere to read, but he built that reputation for himself all on his own and even everyone he ran across openly called him out. Rudy literally saved his relationship and 2nd sister/mother. It was a low blow, but Paul wasn't being fair either.

RavinFox .

@LDD Well he IS reincarnated which no one here seems to bring up for some reason. Ofc those relationships matter, but his new mother is really strong and his perspective was practically that of moving out from home to get a job to support attending a school with a friend. He was making a future for 2 two people, then met a new family and got a new teacher, THEN got teleported from an open field after meeting some strange guy. He cares but she's one of the reasons he was out there in the first place.

Shoal Brighouse

That guy they were traveling with at the start really reminds me of that God Rudeus sees sometimes when he sleeps..

Bill

Also, it makes sense to worry more about Sylphie as she is just a little girl. She has magic but she would be less able to take care of herself than even Eris. Zenith is a retired S-class adventurer, so she should be expected to be able to survive where ever she ends up.

Highlighter

are you gonna react to one piece episode 1000

fili0938

Lupasan, the demon Rudy met was Kirishika, the Demon Empress. The seven great powers included the Demon God. This might be where the confusion comes from.

Anonymous
>>70993599

Yeah he probably don't have that emotional attachment but it's really weird that he met his step-dad and step-sister and still didn't occur to him to ask where is his step-mom like she's the only person that is missing in front of you. I mean when you visit your uncle and you notice your aunt is absent wouldn't you ask where she is? it's just weird.

Erd'na

It's funny how great the discussion on Mushoku. It's feels great being able to talk about how good is the series. Instead of the toxic and hater mentality we had in the 1st cour.

Frizen

He is not 100% innocent, they got caught up in a crazy blast that teleported him and for a year and a half he never thought hmm maybe I should try to contact my family or did this happen to others? And after having stuff explained to him and seeing the state his dad is in he tries to imply Paul is out here messing around with women and then thinks about Sylphy before his own mom.

maio

looool they didn't get the hoblin slayer ref

Nugby

this

D J. Stan

They followed the light novel not the manga

Vartic

Don't blame Rudy for asking about Sylphy first. It's all about the relationship dynamic. Zenith healed, bathe and fed him since he was an infant, in Rudy's subconscious she is the one protecting, not the one needing protection. Eris and Sylphy on the other hand are his students and Rudy was the one protecting, teaching and caring for them. I guarantee that if you saw a child and an adult drowning your first instinct would be to save the child, it's just how humans are wired. Paul on the other hand sees his wife as someone who needs protection, this was probably the power dynamic since they met. Paul the swordsman protecting the cleric of the party and they when they got married didn't he swore to be by her side forever? Obviously he turned to drink, it must be devastating for a man, especially a proud one like Paul, to be unable to protect his wife and kids. Then comes Rudy along, saying all the wrong things, having totally different priorities than Paul, accusing him of abandoning his family for some other woman.

GenDroid

have they watched it ??

Skebaba

Hell even Lilia is ex-Royal Bodyguard (fired due to injury sustained during duty to counter an assassin, and thus useless now due to not being at 100% capacity due to the leg injury)

Malcolm Washingon

The thing that really pisses me off is that the whole situation with Paul is Rudy's fault. None of that fight should have happened. How do you not take one look at this mans Paul and not see the haggerdness, the alcoholism, and the depression. Paul visibly been thru some rough shit, why would you not immediately find out tf happened to him? To everyone. If ya find ya dad after a year apart and he looks like that shouldn't you wonder where TF mom and sister and rest of family is? Like yo! Then instead of telling Paul what he actually went thru he frames the last year as a goddamn adventure story. He tells that to a man obviously going thru some rough shit. Like Paul shouldn't have reacted so violently, he shouldn't have been so condescending. But I cant blame him too much for it cuz Rudy sitting in front of him fucking fine talking about how much fun he's had with his friends despite a little difficulty while it looks like Paul is barely keeping himself together desperately searching for his whole family. It all coulda been avoided, they coulda had a real reunion. But Paul to alcoholic and depressed and Rudy to fuckin oblivious to actually speak. Fuck you thought your dad was leading a group that kidnapped a kid and you didn't think to ask about that shit? Like yo it's so clear that shit is fucked and Rudy just waltzes and talks like almost nothing is wrong and I think that's what gets me. A minimum of basic concern on Rudy's part would have stopped the meeting from becoming a confrontation.

OldManMag

You really can't blame Rudy for anything. He got teleported first while in a city so far away from his home they knocked him out and he still hadn't arrived by the time he woke up. Its like a bomb going off Florida and worrying about NY. Also the demon land is the most dangerous of all the lands and he literally met with the supposed worse demon first thing when he woke up. Dudes only a kid (and its not really explained in the anime but his mental state is getting younger to match his body. Even if he was 30 something before he has the mind of a kid now.)

Dragonfire

You need to consider that Rudy doesn´t even see his family as his family. So it would be logical to think about the people that are around you first and he got teleported to the most dangerous continent of all. Another thing is that it feels like his Father doesn´t treat him like a father should, so how should Rudy have any family feelings towards his dad. You also need to consider that Rudy was an antisocial, paedophile with narcissistic traits in his previous life.

関口信玄

They're both in the right and both in the wrong. They both should've communicated better with each other instead of jumping to aggression (though Paul was the first one to do so, but you could also argue that was cuz Rudy provoked him, which was also because Paul was getting on his ass like crazy. I would've fought back with words too.). One thing though, I feel like Paul should at the very least be thankful and proud that his son was able to survive, and not get kidnapped or tricked or what have you. He was sent farther than most of the village, to the fucking DEMON continent of all places, and he came back to human territory in one piece. That in itself is an accomplishment, not "goofing around." Ngl, I would be pissed af too like Rudy if my parent said I was goofing around when they weren't even with me during the shit I did. "Oh, you wanna assume I was goofing around? Then how about I assume that you're fucking around? Two can play at that game, bitch." I get that's probably not the right mindset, but if you're still looking for your dad's approval now and then and he's all like that, that's gonna be irritating. But again, both of them are right and both of them are wrong.

関口信玄

Also, Eris has always been impulsive. Why did you act so surprised when she's like, "I'll murder him" when her boy was feeling down? That's been her personality for the entire show. Except instead of just violence, it's violence to protect Rudy. ;) That moment at the end was cute af. Ruijerd best wingman?

関口信玄

What if said uncle has a certain history?

beelzebub

His dad's a dumbass though, technically his son is like 12 and instead of being happy his son is alive he's bitter because the rest of the family is missing. The way he ditched his son and clung to his daughter was kind of scummy as well. Instead of acknowledging that Rudy was in a dangerous place and was trying to protect somebody, he started insinuating that he was doing it for pussy. Paul is a scumbag, I think Rudy is an idiot too for not reading the room and insulting a stranger but that's about it.

Darksteel78

Pointing this out as a spoiler is a spoiler. Those of us who don't know any better now know it's a fact rather than an idea. Not cool...

Angelo

The main reason why paul is trash for cheating on his wife is that he got his wife pregnant at the same time. We know how much he was doing it with zenith, he was taking zenith around town like damm near everyday. He had no reason to cheat. There was nothing going on no bad family situation or anything, and he was clearly getting it from his wife. And yet, he still allowed himself to get baited paul is just too horny.

Angelo

Paul is in the wrong mostly, not rudeus. Paul is beyond unreasonable, and that is because from the way he is talking he expects more from rudeus then himself. He talks about how he expected more from rudeus but at the same time, you can see how paul is struggling and he is a experienced adventerure unlike rudeus. So if Paul is struggling he can't expect rudeus to do better just because he is smart and talented. All he is doing is making assumptions based on his own expectations of rudeus even tho he hasn't seen him for this entire time. Oh, you should be able to do this and that and this. If he is struggling he can't expect rudeus to pull through perfectly as a rookie adventerur in a demon continent and just do perfectly. It's unreasonable as hell even for talented and skilled people. Besides Paul said it himself Rudeus had a bodygaurd like rujierd that guided him through the demon continent what if rujierd wasn't there? Would rudeus be able to do everything you expect? Maybe rudeus is also just human like you paul........ And maybe that is why he had a bodygaurd like rujierd. The same worry he should have for his wife( who is already a experienced adventurer unlike rudeus) And his other children that same worry he should have for rudeus. Rudeus is not jesus just because he is more mature then the average kid. I bet there are plenty of talented smart people that still meet a early end because that isn't always what matters.

Panda_senpai

yall gotta member rudy didnt even know what happened to him the god guy told him what happen cause if you remember he thought he died and he didnt have any idea of what a mana explosion does how would he know it effected anyone else when they were so far out also and then the reason he said something about sylvie first and not his mom is because he thought that would of been the first person paul would find

Wadesworth Lawrence

I believe the letter that Paul left at the port got picked up by Roxy and her party so Rudy Couldn’t have seen it

Normadus

Finally Pantsu warrior was punched back to reality. I hope this is the last time we see that retard running with panties on face and licking them ..... Fucking disgrace

wavyesper

U should keep in mind the anime does not adapt the manga

Normadus

only because for this guy eroge games were more important then old family or his new family now it doesnt mean its ok. If I saw my son after 1,5 year running in fucking panties on head I would treat him like a fucking failure lol. And its Rudy fault he learned magic , language and sword styles sonner than other kids. Have you seen 6 years old kid that goes to the next city to teach other kids and earn money ? ;)

therightscript

Nah, the way Rudy told the story he was adventuring having fun with a girl and a powerful Demon. Rudy is the one insinuating that he was doing it for pussy, while Paul was trying to find their family and save people from enslavement. It shows how little Rudy cares that he never asked once about his family or what Paul was going through. I think it's completely justified for Paul to be pissed.

therightscript

The issue Paul has with Rudy is that Rudy never once asked or cared to ask about his family. Even when Paul told him, his first concern was Sylphie. Ever since he got teleported he never tried to send them a message, never tried to get news or anything. All he did was worry about fixing the Superd reputation. Rudy could have gotten home safely at any point, all the danger and hard times he had was because he chose to help Ruijerd.

UNI

sounds like you need help good sir.

UNI

you really think a blast that would affect the whole wide world after getting sent to the most dangerous place known to man? Jesus all you nigga's acting like they like ya'll would do better in these situations IN A FANTASY WORLD.

UNI

Ah yes his own mother who is a S class healer and known adventurer who would be fine on their own.

UNI

I really hope they do a good job at explaining Rudy's point of view of the whole situation cause some ya'll niggas are some clowns in the comments, acting like ya'll would do this or do that or think about this, in a fucking fantasy world with some unknown shit. I ain't gonna waste my time explaining Rudy being in the right, I'll let the anime do the work and put on the clown makeup on all you folks.

Jdogzero Silverblade

he didnt know how big the blast radius was. he was at the center of it. for all he knew it didnt even touch his home. i mean it did but he didnt know that. also what do you mean do better. you realize he went from a useless bum that did nothing his entire life and had no real will to live and and became one of the strongest people on that planet. thats as bottom of the barrel as you can get. anyone with more success in life would have done just as well. and not even sure how you came to the conclusion of us acting like we would do better.

Jdogzero Silverblade

considering that he didnt realize his family was also hit as well as his fathers past its a reasonable conclusion with the information he had. his father is a shitty human being that would bang every girl he found hot. until he meet his wife and even then got tempted. rudy was busy dealing with a ton of crap. managing to keep the demon from killing every single person who was rude and making him a better person to keeping eris safe and guiding them all the way to the holy city. dude had like 15 things on his mind all the time. he barely had enough to take care of himself and the other 2 let alone go look for others and have a huge party traveling back.

DabnDab

thats because he didnt get close to them like he did slyphie, even though they were family he clearly felt more closer to her than them. Besides he knew his parents were strong adventurers after ghislaine talked to him about it.

BZD

I mean he did create a religion around them. And he is mentally an adult, so he is pretty set in his ways, but yeah it’s weird.

BZD

I recall in the first season they showed a letter pinned to a board and Paul was narrating it, basically telling the situation. At least I think that was the case. I mean that’s why Roxy was out and about, she was looking for him after seeing it, I think.

Viela Guay

You are correct on both cases

TastyBlueSoap

I don't even think it crossed his mind that they were missing in the first place. That's why he was so shocked to hear that they were missing.

TastyBlueSoap

We did actually hear about the letter Paul wrote when we first saw Roxy's party join up in Buena Village at the end of season 1, but LWS is right, Rudy's party never heard anything else about it, and immediately after getting to the port, Rudy was caught by the beast tribe. People seem to forget that despite it being a fun watch and seemingly easygoing, Rudy had a lot on his mind trying to protect Eris and finding a way to make it back home. The reason they became adventurers in the first place was for money to survive and travel. Same with all the schemes he thought up to make more money.

Alex Pineda

its called being a weeb. how do i know ? I also am a Weeb but he's doing a whole other level to it

Angelo

Not really.... Rudy didn't make it sound like he did for the P and even if he did Paul ain't the one to talk lmao. Paul could have his own wife in the house and still be baited by another girls P....... That is why rudeus smoked his pack when he started talking crazy. Paul is his dad he is the main influence he should not be getting on anyone for only being there for P considering his body count. Especially since he was like oh ghislaine that beast girl is mine on a letter to rudeus... He is not the role model to throw that criticism around....Paul anger is not justified because it's not based on looking at the full situation it's based of his own selfish expectations of what he thinks rudeus should be able to do. He says you can do this you can do this. Paul you are a experienced adventerur and you are here drunk and depressed so if you are struggling why would you're child that is not even 15 be able to handle everything. Last time paul saw rudeus paul litterally knocked him out and send him of paul was stronger, he had the experience he is a former adventurer and yet he expects rudeus to do better then him. He hasn't seen rudeus or his progress for him to make any expectations at all. Paul says it himself he had a bodygaurd like rujierd to help him across the demon continent but that is rudeus making a smart choice that isn't his talent or his skill what if he didn't meet rujierd who would have guided him through the unknown. As soon as you put unreasonable expectations on your child based on your own view you already lost because you are the parent you are not here to believe your 11 year old son is messiah that can do better in bad situations, you are here to guide your child in to adulthood and teach him right from wrong, And help him rudeus is also just a human, paul fails to consider rudeus as a child and give him the same care as the other children which is a lesson that bit him in the hand previously. But he makes the same mistake treat your child like your CHILD

BZD

Paul just happened to be drunk then. But he had set up a whole search party to find people who had been teleported and enslaved. The other thing is, that Rudy was mainly so mature growing up that he gave his parents what to other children would seem to be unrealistic expectations, but since we know he is actually mentally 40 are realistic expectations. I’m not saying what Paul did was right, but considering what he knows of Rudy, someone who cares about his parents to the point where he helped facilitate reconciliations after the cheating incident, it would be shocking to Paul that Rudy didn’t think of his own family at all. Especially considering that the reason he left home in the first place was for a job to pay for mage college, that’s pretty mature. I hope this made sense. I’m writing on mobile, so I can only see a few sentences of what I’ve written at a time, I may have forgotten a point I was making while writing this lol.

Daniel Borrego

its not just thier village, its eris' hometown too and probably many other places(think of evangelion in north america's s2 engine blowing up or whatever you call it, that kinda of area disaster). it was a HUGE area of people getting teleported. I dont blame rudy for not really thinking about it, as he was in the middle of nowhere at the time because he was demonstrating his cumulonimbus spell. But what is messed up is when he thought about silphi and didnt even think about his mom or the maid or his other sister. his family in other words. rudy was only concerned about his harem collection. his otaku is showing in otherwords. its an excellently written scene as both rudy and paul are both right and wrong. i think paul sees rudy as a grown up already and was really betting on him solving this as hes always been exceptional before, to the point where he dresses down paul as a kid. the ironic part of this is because of what rudy has done on the demon continent, helping rujerd, he should be able to fairly easily find his mom and who ever else is missing. remember rujerd can find anyone with his third eye.

Daniel Borrego

people forget rudy decided to watch porn instead of going to his parents funeral. i think thats why he threw up in the hotel room. he realised he has been slipping back into his selfish old ways. he literally forgot about his family.

NecDW4

Theres also the fact that his mom was an adventurer, ON PAULS LEVEL. Why wouldn't he assume she'd be just fine?

KB

Paul really looking at his own son like a deadbeat dad

DarkHorse24

Honestly, I think when Rudy saw his father, he assumed his mom was okay too, that's why he was shocked when his dad told him that his mother is missing too. I'm with Rudy on this one especially because he didn't know that the impact of how many people got teleported was that big. Remember that god literally had to tell him what happened cause he thought he died

Tj Denby

did anyone else get that goblin slayer reference? lol

toptier sagat

Lol no, technically his son is a 40-year-old man in a 12-year-olds body.

Amzee

well Paul cut him off before he could say anything else, maybe he was gonna ask about them later, and he did seem plenty distressed when he realised neither Zenith, Lilia or Aisha were found (maybe seeing Norn safe and sound gave him the impression that his family was relatively safe, since they would be Paul's priority but Sylphie wouldn't be).

Angelo

No that's not rudeus fault wtf? How can it be your fault that you are talented? No my guy that's not how that works if you are a GOOD PARENT at least you treat all your children equally. You know what that means? You care about them equally, you worry about them equally it doesn't matter how talented rudeus is as soon as paul treats him like he has to worry less about him then his other children he fails as a adult. Maybe if rudeus was a adult paul would be more justified in putting these expectations on him even tho he hasn't seen him for more then a year. But no as far as paul knows rudeus is still a child the same child he was able to knock out and send over to Eris's house. The same child that he was stronger then so PAUL if you were stronger then + he is a child when you last saw him then you might wanna worry about his safety. It doesn't matter whether rudeus is a 6 year old making money or a 12 year old making money and knowing magic he is your son just like you're other children and he is in a place called a demon continent where I'm pretty sure talented people can die too. Paul is a experience adventurer and he is struggling but he expects his rookie adventerur son to do something. Heck paul said it himself rudeus found a strong bodygaurd like rujierd so it's not even like rudeus survived on his own. He could've died for all you know.

Jazko Exclusive

WTF? no thats not it at all. Rudy's reaction after realizing he teleported was that He will have one of those Isekai adventures. Never once did he think about his family or even write a letter to them. Its the theme of the first season as well, Rudy is way too cocky and honestly too horny to think about his siblings and family he has not seen in more than a decade. Clearly Paul didn't find his mother. Rudy even monologues about Paul being right about the fact that he didn't think about his mother

Jazko Exclusive

Right after the talk with the god he literally proceeds to not send letters, or even mention his family

Taylor Wilson

he is very much mentally a child lmao

Taylor Wilson

@jaceboy his only intentions after the teleport was to keep eris safe and return home. and lets not forget shitty paul kicked him out for what was supposed to be 5 years and said your not allowed to write or comeback until then so obviously his family is gonna be one of the furthest things from his mind. His mom isn't innocent either i mean what mother would willingly not wanna see their kid for 5 years. Paul is a pos (love the upcoming episodes btw)

Taylor Wilson

@therightscript yeah why would he, for starters he thinks theyr'e safe, second he's on a new continent . and 3rd and the real big kicker is, yeah of course he's not gonna think about returning to his family first. you realise paul kicked him out when he was younger and said don't comeback don't write, if my parents were okay with not being in touch with me for 5 years they'd be the furthest thing from my mind too

Adiuva

The reason I think Rudy mentioned Sylphie first was because of his family situation. His mom was also a strong adventurer wasn't she? I assume that he figured Sylphie would be much more defenseless than his mom who he would have thought would be okay.

Daniel Borrego

but the man god didnt really say anything except that he was caught in a mana disaster. i mean, what does that even mean? he never said anyone else was caught up by it. its possible this was all fleshed out in light novel form, but from whats been mentioned in the anime, there is a) no way for rudy to realised anyone else was effected but him ghilaine and eris and b) no way to communicate over large distances .

Jeffrey Siu

how are you supposed to expect that kind of blast radius...and rudeus was in the same city as it, right?

toptier sagat

Well, yes I guess he is in the biological sense. But he has retained his mind from his previous life. And has done since before "Rudy" was born in his current world. Shit, even when he talks to "God" he is in his original form.

Mist

even when he was an adult in his old life, i dont think mentally he was an adult either, in the sense that like he never worried about responsibility and had to worry ab big and important things, so this is new to him too

MatchStickWick Box

To be fair, Rudeus was at the exact epicenter of the incident, so he had no clue how wide the spell had reached. The fact that it reached that far is surprising. How far away was the manor from the village anyhow?

Unknown

Two references yall missed on this episode: Goblin slayer and shimoneta-a boring world without a concept of sex jokes.

Unknown

You guys talk like anyone who is in a completely desperate and terrible situation like Paul would even consider Rudy’s point of view after he made it sound like he was on a vacation compared to what he has gone through. And when he found out Rudy was in a team of three of completely OP people “goofing around”, he felt like all of that was such a huge waste in the last year during which his wife, and little daughter mightve been in a state of slavery, rape, and even worse things.

Pilligrim Ilyas

About Sylphie. In anime, it wasn't shown but in LN was. Rudeus thought to himself that if Paul and Norn were here then it meant that his whole family is here safe and sound too. I guess he thought so subconsciously. That's why he asked about Sylphie first. Because she wasn't part of his family, thus was the only one who was in a potential danger

Alellion

@Viela Guay: A.) Even in your sentence, you're using info Rudy didn't have. Why would he know it was "such a large magical event"? B.) His physical age is absolutely what counts in this scene, as that's the only age Paul knows him by. Literally nobody knows that he has lived more years than his 12 on their world. Also - he was a shut in NEET with literally no skills outside of video games so even his past life wouldn't help him in such a dire situation, really. C.) The place mentioned by Paul was the port they had just finished coming from, it wasn't somewhere they spent a ton of time. And in fact, in Zant I don't think they even stopped into the adventuring guild. I know they haven't shown the map thus far in the show (at least as far as memory serves), but Rudy quite literally went to the farthest place he could have on the same continental cluster, there's no knowing if Paul's message even had time to make it to him yet.

Alellion

@MackeyMoose - Same story beats, but definitely not the same tone. I understand that he's disappointed, which this scene is super necessary for their characters, as it's perfectly in line. What I take issue with is the unreasonable standards Paul is setting for Rudy in this reunion being shone in a more reasonable light in the adaptation, while in reality they're nothing but absurd drunken ramblings. It was just frustrating to watch, is all.

razgrizraven

Nah, Fuck Paul, "yOU cOuLDn't FiNd oUt abOUt the oTheRs?" Nigga! Your son and your cousin's daughter got transported to the MOST dangerous spot possible for a human to be sent to and you just breeze over that? How about you start with "Hey Son, nice to see you. We haven't found your Mom and Aisha yet, but I have Norn with me. Also, everyone in here is from Buena Village."

UI

I'm pretty sure its because of how mature Rudeus acts that Paul expected more of him. Paul even said, some episodes back when everyone got teleported, something like Rudeus I know your most likely fine and have probably already realized what is happening so this message is to everyone else, please help me find my family. Paul saw Rudeus almost as his equal so he believed that Rudeus would also be out there finding the victims and his family.

Storm King

UI is right, because Rudeus is soooo mature for his age he sees him more as an equal so it was easy to forget he's physically a child. Yes he did screw up as a father for not putting that his son is safe above everything else but he was probaly stressed from looking for his family for so long. He only has his daughter and just based on his looks you can tell he's not having a good time.

Storm King

@Angelo: Normally anyone would agree with you in that he was expecting too much from Rudy, however Rudy is not a normal child. Even though Paul does not know he is a reincarnation Rudy always acted mature around his family to the point that if you go back and watch Paul was having full on adult conversations with Rudy. Plus with him being soooo talented in magic and acedemics it would be easy to forget that Rudy is phyically a kid. Yes Paul messed up because he should have been happy to just see his son but I can see how that can be over shadowed by stress of missing family when you have a son you kinda saw as an equal not being worried like he was. Remeber in the message Paul wrote he said he knew Rudy would be fine and the only reason he knew that is because of how mature and strong he was for his age.

Storm King

@Taylor Moon: yes physically he is a child but we know the truth and even if Paul does not know he can tell Rudy is way mature for his age. Do you not remember the conversations they had when he was living back home? That is why Paul expected more from him because it's due to the "maturity" and talent Rudy displayed he sees him more as an equal which is why in the letter he told Rudy he knew he would be fine. So I can see why Paul might have the reaction he did but from a father stand point he failed, just like Rudy failed when he was more worried about Slypie instead of his mother and other sibling.

Psi47

In an earlier episode Paul was Narrating that he left messages for Rudy while he was searching for their family. Also Norn is his full sibling, while Aisha is his half sibling.

Friendly Elites

it was at least a good few days journey by cart, so i'd say probably a few hundred miles

Ever Alezano

The focus is terrible in this one smh :/

Dontsop Keran

Idk why you act like Rudy isn’t already a scumbag. He’s mentally 41 years old and is sexually aroused by children…

Jaime Ruiz

Rudy did nothing wrong, he’s a ducking child. Imagine being a dad and then just sucker punching your ten year son hahah. Dog shit father alert.

Jaime Ruiz

So? Not Rudy’s fault his dad is dog shit husband

Jaime Ruiz

Doesn’t matter what he saw Rudy as. Rudy is a ten year old boy

Retroactive Gamer

"Read the room"? Come on, He's a 12 year old according to them and he just reunited with his father who turned out to be a drunk asshole who PUNCHED his 12 year old in the face. I don't care what he was mad about decking a child full punch when your a 30 year old and while you're shitfaced automatically makes you wrong. Nothing he should have said even if he flipped out should have led to that. And even though Rudy is older he doesn't know that. If I bumped into a dad like that i'd look for the rest of my family and tell him to F off. Also they have already said letters took forever and were unreliable even from Eris' house to Roxy's kingdom so what are the chances that he could have sent anything from the Demon Continent or the Doldia Village. He literally just made it to the human place that day and we about to send a letter. And if a tornado happens in Maine people days and days travel away aren't going to be wondering about their family, and he had no way of knowing the teleporting happened to anyone besides him until he got back to where they are now, at least most likely. Also he's not bugging he thought because his dad, Lilia and sisters were fine, that his mom was fine so why wouldn't he ask about Sylphie?

Mikey

he has the mind of a 30 year old tho

Niuwah

But in this life nobody knows he has the mind of a 30 year old. So his dad DID punch his child for doing nothing wrong.

faded

His dad can’t even know that he literally has the mind of an adult, it’s never right to punch your minor son tf. Paul should be happy that Rudeus is alive and stop acting like a bitch.

faded

Depression and alcoholism still ain‘t justifies punching you’re child. Paul doesn‘t know that Rudeus was an adult in his previous lifetime. Hope some of you don’t want to get kids especially the first comment, this kind of thinking is sick. "Yeah i punched my minor son BUT i was in a bad mood and drunk so it’s ok right?"

eaarok

hhe was abducted by the beast people

Daniel Borrego

im pretty sure she cant use her aura sheath anymore because of the poison. so shes just a regular person now.

hokeypokey

I don't see why Rudy would be expected to assume that the whole nation got nuked by the mana disaster, like he and Eris were right at the impact point, as far as he was aware it could have been related to the person who was fighting Ghislaine at the time.

DANIEL PEREZ

Rudy is going on with cliché isekai tropes. seeing group in trouble and rescuing them in the nick of time, but here they got clapped. using shady decisions to work with criminals to earn money real quick and he assumed no one would catch him, but he did get caught. Rudy has always been a work by himself and his plans that never have a back up when shit goes south

Vayne

Idk if anyone explained this but the reason Rudy missed the note in the adventurers guild in Zant Port ( the port they arrived in after the boat they took from the demon continent --> Millis Continent ) was because when they first arrived they had to go get ruijerd from the smugglers and then rudy got taken by the beast people and they essentially skipped over Zant port.

Savage
>>80175616

"cliche" this is one of the first isekai's to make the "cliche's" so it's not cliche in this case it's just original.