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Dude559

yall straight up forgot that Orm had his head cut off previous season.... or the one before

Baron Salt

True, and it's not something that's necessarily for everyone. But not everyone is the same or have the same opinions. Plus, it requires trust and openness with all parties involved, something a good portion of monogamous couples can't even do.

Serg

Been waiting for this all day. Les Go

Q

Let's gooooo

Joseph

This arc is so good definitely makes the solo arcs in part 1 worth it

Zarvick

Wasn’t Ocean Master beheaded last season by Lady Shiva??? In the house across the street from where all the superhero parents were meeting for a play date???

Brandon

I am confuse I thought Lady Shiva killed Ocean Master in season 2

Smash Bran'Discootch

Okay, so I realize that a lot of times, this show's capital "m" Message can seem a little heavy handed, but I think in a way it sort of needs to be. Especially at this time. Comic books have kind of always done that. I mean, look back on OOOLLLDD comic books and you'll see stuff like The Justice League or The Avengers fighting literal Hitler. Comic books and superhero stories are our culture's Myths. They're the same thing as like greek and roman tales of heroes battling gods and monsters. And for a loooooooooong time, comic books have been kind of stuck in that mentality of "Truth, Justice, And The American Way" and thats all well and fine, but the american way is something hugely different than what it used to be. So using these stories to normalize and educate about different cultures, gender identity, sexuality, and even non-traditional relationship styles like polyamory. I mean, look how confused Lupa was by the fact that homeboy had a husband and a wife. That shocked reaction is the reason why normalizing this in our media is great. Thats not talking shit on Lupa either, thats just saying his reaction is a perfect example of how we don't commonly see these very common lifestyles and practices depicted in media.

Tim Chaos

Well said. I like that they are trying to do, well, Justice to these underrepresented folks in a way that superhero stories used to always be about

Beef Gristle Mill

I missed young Justice so much, this show is so damn good.

Tim Chaos

Yes, Ocean Master is dead. Something’s…fishy 😏

AmpLvX

Shiva been killed this man

Devin B

I mean I can't blame Lupa for his reaction cause I was the same way. I wasn't shocked about the polygamy itself but the person involved in it. The last time we saw Lagaan was when he had just broken up with M'gann and now he has a husband and wife. That was kind of a big jump.

Andrew W

They shoulda gotten Ron Funches (from Harley Quinn) to just do a dead-serious take on King Shark in this one, too -- would've been perfect. I love everything this show has to say in terms of the social commentary, but damn time and again the plot just seems to come to a dead stop to let them say it. I'm digging that we got a show coming out and saying this stuff, though, so on balance I'm still on board with the series.

Spawn_tiger

King shark got Chris Rock

Brandon Rodgers

Waaaaait are they pulling a superboy prime???

LeFlaneur

This episode was hilarious and it wasn’t even trying to be. Some adaptation of King Shark have been on the funny side, but yeah King Shark is intense.

Tim Chaos

Yeah I seem to remember Lagoon Boy having toxic jealousy outbursts too which is…weird for polyamory, but hey maybe that’s part of his growth

Notnotblasian

I really keep forgetting that people pay for HBO Max lol just get a "service provider" and you get HBO free 4 life

delete

damn i love this show. got me pumped for a chat about religion.

Ravon terrell

I think that the mystery guy that saved them is the first king of Atlances and the son of vandal Savage that was chosen by the Lord of order

Rickey66

This Ocean Master thing is frying my brain we did see his head get fall off is body when Lady Shiva slice his neck. Right?

Fatherlord

Damn the ocean is open as fuck lol. Good for them though

EmoBurrito

Not a fan of the social commentary on this episode. Social commentary is all fine and dandy but the execution matters. Seemed very info dumpy.

Fatherlord

Like I've told people before, comics have ALWAYS been political. You just didn't realize it before because you didn't disagree with what they were saying at the time

Dean Joyner

Was that Lightning Lad??

LaMark Barnes

RIGHT, I'm like Shiva deadass killed him when he was trying to kill all the babies like 10 yrs ago..

Fatherlord

I used to agree but I've been noticing that messages seem to go over A LOT of people's heads unless you beat them over the head with it, so I get why it might not be subtle

rickie woodson

well thats phantom girl so they must be in Bgztl, her home dimension. kinda like phantom zone where everyone is a phantom. so just think of superboy as having intangible powers as long as he is there and so has to concentrate ("believe) in order to touch any thing

rickie woodson

im so confused. how is orm alive when lady shiva cut his head off? and is lagoon boy in a trouple? his baby momma, that he kissed, called another dude her husband......

rickie woodson

love all the aquaman lore love they did this ep. from topo to lori lemaris (a love interest of superman) they did the thing. THANKS

rickie woodson

now i need to know whats up with the uh oh lol. is it something one of your kids do? i know my little brother used to do it a lot

Marko

Gotta disagree with you on this one. The "american way" as you put it so really not so different than what it used to be. Granted we as a society are much more accepting than we used to be and thats good and all but thats all it is. Majority of America is straight and enjoy the traditional nuclear family structure. Now while I agree that having the aspects of the "message" in our media is good and all, I dont agree they should take center stage. Just like with plenty of other things, they should be sprinkled here and there but not shoved to the forefront before the story. It also depends on the type of media. But when its heavy handed in an already existing IP like this with established stories and characters it comes off a little cheap. Like why not make your own show with your own characters where you can insert all the messages you want? Probably because no one would watch it. I mean what more proof do you want than comic book sales atm. Manga sales are dominating the charts because of things like this. Either way, the heaviness of pc stuff in this episode was very on the nose.

sotonye ogan

bruh lagoon boy and that nigga be running a train on that bitch 😭😭bruh the time skip be fucking me up bringing hella random stuff.

rickie woodson

if superman can go underwater why not shazam? no idea who it is without being able to see the face but that beard is throwing me off. the powers do look very shazam like, could be one of the kids. we will see

DatKid_Kaneki

lagoon and the other two are into a poly relationship lupa idk whats so hard about it😭

DatKid_Kaneki

glad we finally get a serious king shark tho cause why tf they always treating him in adaptions as a joke lmfao

Rosie

Missed this show!!

Grelk

Nigga said “swim!” 😭

Fuego_fish

Man of all the characters they choose to be in a poly relationship they choose La'Gaan. I feel like this is violence against me, fuck that dude lmfao

Totally Thomas

I keep getting distracted with it all the "messaging". Getting used to Kaldur being bi is enough for most people. Now in a single episode, Lagaan is in a polygamous relationship, and Violet is a non-conformist with her/it's gender (which is slightly ok given she's a god-machine in a mortal body). I think this is why American media is failing. I just couldn't enjoy the main story they are trying too tell otherwise.

Bona Fide

catching up rn omg we really got double drop yess

Boomerang Guy

I'm confused as to how Orm is alive. Didn't Shiva chop his head off last season?

kristian

Bruh. Every king shark I’ve seen they make him slow af I thought that’s literally how he was originally written to be😂until I just read this comment

Manuel Granados

Can someone fill me in on the "uh-oh" bit and why that was funny

Rustle Tasmania

Bruh when La’Gaan held his wife’s belly I was like “awwww” and then when his wife yelled “my husband’s over there” I was like wait HUH!? but I thought La’Gaan was, AND THEN La’Gaan came in and was like “my wife AND husband are in trouble” I was like OH WAIT SO WE’RE TEAM POLY NOW!? The whiplash I had was something serious 😂😂😂, good for him though 😌😌

Yanpo

Should change the caption from "we back!!" to "Just Swim!"

Yanpo

I mean, I know a lot about these topics, and even that scene caught me off guard the same way it completely caught me off guard when Kaldur was suddenly in a relationship with another man, and no one makes a big deal about it which gives you a glimpse into Atlantis culture. It's very neat.

Dude559

"To many surface dwellers are obsessed with short term economic concerns while polluting our oceans" D-dude...can you please stop staring directly at me while saying that....please

Dude559

Wait didn't lady Shiva cut off Ocean Master's head?

Lamaree Jackson

Did they use the dragon balls on this nigga Ocean Master? Cause they showed him get cleanly decapitated.

Lamaree Jackson

So this bitch Phantom whatever got detoured like Supreme Kai trying to save Goku in GT? Damn that’s rough buddy

Lamaree Jackson

Damn they turned the ocean into Westeros

Anderson Lake(The Bleach)

You can't just wrap-up depression Roshi. I understand but that's not how it works.

darnay mayberry

seems like a lot more "pandering" going on, but still a very good episode

Yahroh

Roshi You looked mad confused everytime Ocean Master is on scene. Yes he did die either Season 2 or Season 3 cant remember but he did die.

Wrëck

So errbody just fucking errbody under da sea……okay 😭

Krispin

The illustrators did this ghost reality very well. I legitimately didn't recognize Phantom Girl until ep 2

mitch anderson

Tbh i don't think that's why he looks confused cause he wouldve normally be like "didn't he die?". His look of confusion seemed more like "who is this?", cause he even called him stingray

LiquidXGravity

I see what's going on alot of Propaganda in this episode

Sean Fox

I was so confused when ocean master showed up because that’s butch got beheaded by shiva

Son Gokhan

Why did they say uh oh?

Sean Fox

That bussy bussin 💀😂😂 love shera

Stephen D

Kinda had me rolling my eyes. I mean do we really need "pandering" in all western media these days? Can't we just take a break for a while?

Stephen D

I don't blame him for not remembering ocean master. He is kind of a C list villain. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the justice league hasn't heard of him.

EmoBurrito

I mean I get what you're saying but when its executed like this in my opinion it seems tastless. Seems like they're just reading a script that they can't deviate from, treats the viewer like they're dumb, and just spoon feeds them a narrative. Arcane was a show with a lot of social commentary yet it didn't treat the viewer like an idiot and it flowed well with the story. That's how you do social commentary right. But oh well hopefully they change the execution.

Kenneth O'Connor

“That bussy bussin” 😂😂😂💀 I’m done

Neubaufahrzeug

Man wish Al-Hafiz was around when everyone was getting clapped. It feels weird to have earth religion when there is proof of an afterlife and a vast universe of aliens conveniently left out of any holy text.

Kenneth O'Connor

Did they just fall to their death underwater

Isaac

I like that they showed how relationships work in the sea dwellers society. They all must be some form of pansexual because everyone is a differing species of aquatic life that mix and mingle on a constant basis. Also their society follows different religions that probably said nothing about being with multiple people/species and gender being sinful so long as they ALL share love among the group with eachother. Like 2 dudes can't just share the same woman, they have to love each other too ( or maybe they can who knows but im assuming all must love eachother genuinly).

Nardoc

How did I JUST notice that the king of atlantis and previous aquaman was Orim and not Arthur Curry lol and why is his mom meera? I thought he married meera

bob

Not this pronoun shit again

Yanpo

At least in Harley Quinn he was a functional and intelligent individual as well as a force to be reckon with. Of course, due to the nature of the show, he was as much a joke as everyone else. Unfortunately, the DC animated movies and the DCEU are just treating him like he's utterly mindless. Granted, he wasn't shown as being too bright here either.

OSha Perry

If yall didn’t know, the person you think is king shark is his dad , who is king of the southern ocean & has electrical powers like kaldur (aqua man) in the comics . He be on demon time in the comics frfr

razgrizraven

See, all cultures practice polygamy. It was only seen as bad when the culty wyt people of Utah did it.

Weekly Flo

Being someone who identifies as Polyamorous, it's actually such a refreshing thing to see poly relationships represented so well. This makes sense time wise because Atlantis and ocean based societies were the first in this world, so the most advanced and oldest civilizations would have the most accepting and diverse amounts of social dynamics, considering theres literally a dozen other ocean based civilizations.

Weekly Flo

I made a comment about this as well. That they actually have way different and far more diversity in social and religious social constructs because Atlantis and ocean societies are the oldest in the world. I wouldn't say all are some form of pansexual, simply because of how gender and sexuality is constructed by our society. I would go as far to say that they arent that, because it's something completely different. And small correction, but someone who is pansexual, can easily be monogamous, not all Pan people are also Polygymous or Polyamorous, even though there is often overlap, like myself. It;s like, not all Trans people are gay. They can be straight, gay, bi, pan, demi, or more.

Weekly Flo

I agree, but part of it is because it's a finite season and only so much can happen. And it seemed like they were going for a teen titans route for a while, but cyborg has been absent all for maybe 2 or 3 appearances.

Weekly Flo

What do you mean pandering??? Please explain to me how any of what happened is pandering. As someone who has appreciated and felt represented by this show, I genuinely want to know why. Kaldur is one of the few characters I can relate with in any and all media. Being a brown skin man, who's mixed, and is at least bisexual, who's taken on a lot of responsibility in his life. With Violet, we get very subtle and very serious discussions about identity that are tied in well to the story of the mother box and with the Islamic faith/being Muslim. With Laggon, them practicing what their version of polygamy or polyamory is totally in line with a far more advanced and older society that doesnt have the safe belief systems us surface dwellers have. SO please explain where the pandering is going on? Or is it that when something is different to you and how you live your life, you call it pandering, but when its exactly what you do and see as normal, you don't bat an eye? Why is it not pandering when two cis, straight, monogamous people kiss? Have you ever thought about that. Instead of saying something ignorant like you just did, take a step back and realize that not everyone lives the same life you do and that some people like me appreciate the hell out of the writers to do something like this.

Weekly Flo

Directly from google. prop·a·gan·da /ˌpräpəˈɡandə/ Learn to pronounce See definitions in: All Politics Roman Catholic Church noun 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. "he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda" In this context, I assume youre refering to some agenda that non straight cis monogamous people have, but there isnt any agenda.

Weekly Flo

I agree. LA'GAAN!!!!!!! Whyd they pick the ugly ass dude to be Poly, like cmon maaaannnnn.

Weekly Flo

That shits mad disrespectful to actual poly relationships. It isnt just about having sex together. THey all clearly love and care for each other. cmon, be better

Juicetoos

I mean i don’t disagree with you, I’m sure they do all love and care for eachother, but they still running a train. 😂😂

Kollie123

Good for you, idk why people get so bent out of shape whenever tv decides to shed light less popular life choices, these are things people in the real world are dealing with.

CJ Dennis

In these comic book worlds it would probably add more to the beliefs of world religions than it would take away from them. If anything it would be hard to not believe in the supernatural or anything like it in these worlds.

CJ Dennis

Is it really that popular though lol? I know some people do it but I don't think everyone's doing it lol.

Eronthaboy

This episode had me feeling like King Shark when Aqualad uppercutted him lol. Everytime I thought I had everything together the show come out of nowhere like “Uppercut” lmao. I’m glad it’s back lol

Eronthaboy

I mean I guess lol. The regular ocean in real life is already freaky. I imagine if there were merpeople down there they’d be like this “it’s all kind of crazy shit here with us that we gotta deal with, plus global warming, & pollution. Why should we care who fucking who?” 🤣🤣🤣

Pman

how is he a c list villain. he is the main nemesis to Aquaman.

Yahroh

Honestly Aquaman been a joke for decades. I always saw him as a B-lister punching above his weight class. But the latest iterations of him and atlantis have been improving though.

Lurkingposter

Alot of poeple are in poly relationships right now in 2022. Since fish boy said wife and husband it's clear that he has relationship with both of them. This doesn't have to be the case though.

Karsten Hase

good for u ^^ tho i prefer to keep both my partners in my life and am kinda happy of seeing this small cut out in a tv show

ChrisBrah-4

There definitely isnt a leftist ideal being pushed throughout this show in modern times, you see none of this in seasons 1 and 2 so i wonder why now 🤔🤔