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Young Justice 4x16 (Patreon)

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2022-04-04 01:29:32
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actually glad for that Gar intervention

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Dude559

Who the fuck are Chief and Negative woman?

Dude559

"So he dead dead" yep... you saw his head getting chopped off

Mahmii

Umm, Sheera hair?😅

bob

Why the hell is this show constantly trying to spotlight lifestyles that only a fraction of the population is into?

YoGar

sheera look like she could be a young justice character lmao

Michael Pamon

M’gann didn’t ignore Gar’s feelings, she just legit didn’t know. He got back to Earth long before she did.

Michael Pamon
>>81198378

I think the poly relationship is the only lifestyle they’ve ever tried showing 🤣

Devin B

I don't think it's right to say M'gann was fucked up for not checking with Gar cause not only is she dealing with grief but she said Gar told her he would get help when they left Mars so based on what she knew and what he told her she taught he was okay.

Chimpman

M'gann was on the ship for like months, guys. She just got back and has been busy with lots of shit.

Ashanti Patmon

Beast origin includes doom patrol remember

gamerman1902

I died when Lupa just got up and left in the middle of Foragers valedictorian speech 😂

Spawn_tiger

First they fuse, then they fuck, then they unfuse and that's how they got a baby

Tim Chaos

Superboy is stuck running on Snake Way 😭

Chimpman

I think that superboy thing was foreshadowing. I think his spirit is going to take over the clone that's still stuck in Cadmus. Unless it got destroyed and it completely blanked from my memory.

These Plums

Why do us black folk struggle so much with mental health and understanding it. Tough love isn't always going to cut it, sometimes "tough love" is just the easy way out.

shijishoutmon flare

Arion is immortal it was said during the vandal savage flashback

trippersigs22

This Beast Boy subplot is a mess thats drawn out WAY too long. damn the realism. its bad.

Krispin

lowkey, out of all in atlantis, y'all got with lagoon boy? lol

Rosie
>>81198378

Because they want to normalize it, since there's a lot of stigmas surrounding poly relationships. It's really not a big deal, just accept it and move on.

Rocksolo

What would be funny if the new aqua man is the true king 😂

VagabonD
>>81200730

Match shows back up in the tie in comics to the show but mutates and ends up looking more like Bizzaro. But he could still show up again

Fuego_fish

I'm pretty sure they stated in whatever episode where they showed she was pregnant that it's la'gaan's biological baby

Joseph
>>81201349

That was never stated at all. Cora only said “our baby” which doesn’t mean it’s biologically lag’aans

Isaac

Real talk. That's p fucked up how roshi lupa and maybe sheera assumes no ody gave a fuck about wally's death but Artemis. Take that bs back because it affected them all, the show was just making her the main focus of the grief. And calling Megann SELFISH? Selfish for being depressed and unable to do the right things by your guys standards of coping with extreme loss? Y'all way fucked up for that one. Thank God the characters ain't t real if yall meant what you said.

J C

Im pretty sure Shiva sliced Ocean masters head off during one of the seasons when he was planning on murdering the families of the heroes during a daycare thingy. I was super confused seeing Ocean master again so now this clears that up. Lex doing some clone stuff again >_>??

NocticKid

Okay so I feel like this episode either did a lot of misdirects or foreshadowing. I have a few off the brain theories that may reign true. (1) Wynnde & Lagann may die in this undersea Arian mission because if their death flags with Wynnde in the bar with the chick to prove his change from evil and Lagann with his family (btw I believe its his child) and the whole “we never say goodbye”. (2) Delphis is also gonna die/severely injured because of her desire to prove Kaldur wrong whenever he says to not aid and assist which will both ultimately break Kaldur like this arc seems to be setting up. (3) Kaldur sacrifices himself to save the other three and that possibly being one of the final haystacks to make BB get help. Especially since if somewhat feels like Aquaman may go back to being a hero if this Arion thing isn’t a play. Also that Superman & Match scene gave “Prime” vibes which could also be the future thing.

von

Bro if Jason don’t pop up this season and fuck shit up imma be drid…..😒

von

The only thing annoying me is that as much as I love shiva there is no universe where she could’ve taken Orm let alone kill that nigga

Shin splits

Dude I think wally has to be in that weird zone with superboy. There’s no way he’s gonna imagine Megan and Superman in there normal style then “imagine” Wally in the weird ghost style. Wally even said “I get it we’re dead” nobody else is that self aware I think him disappearing was a misdirect

Isaac
>>81203768

He's not there. Superboy thinks he's somewhat dead and he knows Wally is dead so he imagined him looking exactly like them with the freaky spectral stuff going on. Also real wally may not be dead because of the Speed Force but I don't know if YJ established the Speed Force at all just like how they never established the Phantom Zone. If this Wally was the real ghost of him actually trapped there, the show would have made a bigger deal out of it and he'd be in costume since he disappeared wearing it. They didn't. It just randomly happens and he randomly disappeared like how randomly Megan and Superman and Match were there. Also Wally would just leave him alone if that was really him. He would have explained everything about where they were too.

JJ
>>81202666

it's a tv show bro it aint that serious lmao

Shin splits
>>81203768

@issac it could be true but I think it’s just to odd for them to animate him in that style and not make it intentional. Even with superboy knowing he’s dead there’s no real reason for him to imagine Wally that way. Wally also said this is like a place between heaven and hell or something like that gotta rewatch it. This could just be copium tho. I’m literally trying to find any clue that Wally’s not dead lmao

Isaac
>>81203768

I honestly kinda wish the show went back on what exactly happened to him because I want the show to explore the Speed Force really bad.

Shin splits
>>81203768

@issac I’m pretty sure the shows creators said in the interview that the speed force doesn’t exist in this universe but we know that there’s like a wired limbo thing

Isaac
>>81202666

Yeah but depression is a real thing and a lot of people have horrid assumptions just like how the Roshi gang expressed. It's one of those ' don't ever think like that when it comes to a for real problem ' type of things.

Isaac
>>81202726

She did. We ain't misremebering nothing here. Show gonna have to explain the schemery going on here.

Isaac
>>81203768

Oh shit you're right. Completely forgot they confirmed that. I hope they take it back because the circumstances of his death are too abnormal for it not to be Speed Force related. That's lame of them on their part to have him run a d be zapped by energy and then fade away while running as fast as his slow ass could.

FreshxEli Tv
>>81202666

They are speaking facts it’s been months & she didn’t check on Gar once 💀 Fred bugg with 2 Gs literally explained that that’s why they called her selfish because gar was there too and he Told Conner to get sunlight every episode literally before every battle but Conner kept on fighting and still “died”

Isaac
>>81202666

Nah. Don't ever get mad and call someone facing that type of anguish selfish. Like ever. There's a lot of reaction back and forth with who they get mad at and who they understand in the depression arc going on that gets annoying with the roshi gang. They got mad at gars friends for not trying hard enough, they getting fed up with gar period, now they mad at megann like she had the ability to do the right thing that soon in the process of her own trauma and dont say plenty of time passed because that is not how that works and the end result is that the roshi gang will be upset at every character do everything relating to the depression arc.

Isaac
>>81198936

I made a comment about thar and really the roshi gang are being annoying in general over the entire depression arc because they've been mad at basically every character so far involved. Them saying g Megann was selfish was pretty fucked up of them. That opinion and outlook sucks.

sotonye ogan

lol those mfs with megan didnt give af about gar they had to rehearse them speeches and the way doom patrol homie sat back after he said all that, he was like "thats it" lmao. tbh thats just it, megan should just leave him and keep it pushing unless he goes to canary and get some pussy therapy😂.

Yanpo
>>81201349

I mean, if they're all married, then both men will be the child's legal father when it's born. If they are in a poly relationship, then neither is going to care who supplied the genetic material in order to treat the child like their own, so I don't get why people outside the relationship should care. Besides, I'm pretty sure it's going to be obvious who the bio father is once the baby is born.

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m'ussy

Anth

Am I the only one that notice they’re using quotes from the original season. “Get Trought” which robin said in season 1. “Get onboard or get out the way” which Saturn girl said when talking to Superman is what Connor said when they recruited him into the team. “Maintain radio silence” which Batman told them when they lost their memories

rickie woodson

CLONES! my theory might be right. arion and orm (ocean master) are clones. that would explain who both would be alive when they are long dead

rickie woodson

assuming this universe is the same as the comics, aquaman's mom was dead by the time he came to atlantis so that was strike one. and i dont see how orm could have been in there for six years since he died in season 3. what was the time jump between the seasons?

rickie woodson

yes, thats robotman. remember all those names gar listed of people who died? some of them were doom patrol members including his step mom rita. he was a doom patrol member before joining teen titans (in the comics). in season two it was confirmed of that is canon here since his step dad (mento, a member of doom patrol and rita's husband) is shown as well as in that episode where they go into his head and have that talking green monkey? they show him interacting with the doom patrol.

rickie woodson

ninth tride????! deep cut! is murk showing up next?? this is some dc rebirth shit! its basically the hood of the seas lol. this show is giving me LIFE! my energy is up and so are my endorphins. who needs drugs when you have tv and comics? not i said the cat. meow

Sal
>>81198378

Chill. Only a fraction of the population is straight too. It aint that deep

Chimpman
>>81203768

It was more that the show runner said he didn't like the speed force. As a concept. People want Wally back, and I'm hoping he gets over not liking it, and brings him back.

Chimpman
>>81202666

Hey, FreshxEli. They were on the baby bio ship for those months. There was no contact. She literally just got back and has been busy as fuck, and she talked to him once and clearly he wasn't being honest or else she wouldn't have been surprised about what was going on. You're a moron, dude.

Kollie123
>>81209167

The time jump between season 1 and 2 was 5 years, plus I think 2 between 2 and 3.

Kollie123
>>81198378

Imagine being mad fish people at the bottom of the sea live a different lifestyle than you

Isaac
>>81209490

Damn, even Atlantis has a ghetto? When we getting that arc?

Hello

This clears it up cause I was so confused how orm died in season 3 but was alive. I also forgot clones were a thing in this verse lmao

Jmooth Sazz

I'm sorry, when "Jason died " oh yeah we need a whole season for that please

Spriggz

Damn, Robot guy's speech almost brought a tear to my eye. Then Gar just shut him down LOL!

Arknightoni
>>81202666

You took this waaaay too seriously lol no way in hell I would take back or apologize for anything I say about fictional characters in a fictional setting. If we were talking about real people then yeah. This energy you put out definitely should be pointed to something else

Spawn_tiger
>>81202768

Im still waiting for Terry mcginnis to make an appearance. Hell have his dad make a cameo.

The Bored Boar

I think people forgot that the real Ocean Master was beheaded by Lady Shiva last season.

Earphone Jack

To say that M’Gann disregarded Garfield’s feelings is unfair and untrue. The same goes for when Wally died. His death literally affected all of them, they just dealt with it their own way. I’m gonna have to disagree with them on that.

Isaac
>>81202666

The comment failed to change anything. Roshi gang is flat out wrong. They misremembered the time line of events along with misinterpreting the characters actions and jumped to a conclusion about Megann that was straight up wrong and then said she was the fucked up one and are mad at her for it.

Marko
>>81198378

"not a big deal, just accept it and move on" more slippery words have never been said

Isaac
>>81202726

Oh damn, you're right! Completely forgot the Lazarus pit could be used like this. Ain't it like once you revive in the pit, your brain is extremely vulnerable to influence and manipulation while recovering and you can easily be enslaved? Which would explain that obvious Jason ninja ( it better be him ) that's been with them too.

CJ Dennis

The voice actor for Robot Man is if course Khary Payton. Also, Garfield left Mars before Megahn did so she didn't know that he was depressed for so long until she just got back this episode. Also, I like everyone figured this Orm couldn't be the same one as we saw Lady Shiva kill him in the last season and sure enough it's not.

Reckless Company

i was laughing his graduation speech the whole time lol

Toria

that ending tho loooooooooooool

Serg
>>81198378

^ it's better than complaining that it exists like it'll somehow reverse it from happening

Isaac Tsumetsuki
>>81208709

As the series progresses they start incorporating slang from each other. Crash, Moded, Ma'al, Mother of Goat, Hello Megan, etc

Isaac
>>81222613

That and it'll put Batman in the frontlines of the show. I kinda miss his character. You rarely see him anymore compared to first season.

darnay mayberry
>>81200739

as a black man i said this months ago during episode 11, you have to stand up and move forward or the depression will consume you. We've seen people try to show him love and Gar just brush it off. "Tough love" is the logical step if actual love is being dismissed like its nothing. If he doesn't want Black Canary's help, FUCK GAR lol. Something needs to change with his character ASAP no Rocky.

samurai jeff

Shiva killed ocean master right

Nancy Ottavi

I was really confused about how Orm could be alive since he was beheaded by Lady Shiva in season 3

Jazko

With that last scene of Connor. Are we seeing the creation of Bizarro? Notice how Wally West also believed he wasn't dead. The writers know what they are doing. I see Gar leaving the team and going rogue, and through his solo missions will he find closure (maybe even find Connor) Orm was probably cloned by Lex the same way Connor and Speedy were. But the spotty memory could tell otherwise. Guys don't forget that there was like a time skip between Wally's death and Season 3. Even in season 3 many of them were still suffering. Artemis did go through depression when she left the team, but her taking care of Jade's daughter and her dog really archored her back.

Jazko
>>81222613

He isn't the main character. If you want Batman go watch the movies

Jazko
>>81200739

I disagree. Tough Love can cause more damage than good. Especially with how deep Gar is in. He needs professional help. I assume you are still young but a lot of that "tough love" ends up either becoming character or extreme trauma. I don't want this to become controversial but if we as a community actually raised our children to accept their emotions and feelings and learn from it, there will be less problems within our community

Jazko
>>81200982

its not bad, I personally like it. It will be more pathetic if after all the trauma he has been carrying, they will solve his depression and PTSD in one episode. Hell people with PSTD or Depression have to suffer through that shit for more than just a month (Garfield literally is like a couple weeks-a month into this toxic mindset)

Jazko
>>81202666

She literally got back to Earth that day. Infact she was told by Gar that he would take therapy and that his relations to the team and Perdita were all good. Within the span of a couple of days Megann has already orchestrated an intervention. Which is already putting aside her suffering for the sake of his

Jazko
>>81202666

Hex Eclipse thats the stupidest thing Ive read in the comments. I stand for people being strong in their opinion but changing your argument just because its fictional is stupid. We basically saw Garfield grow up before our eyes. Just being inconsiderate of the plot and his emotions shows that you are fucked up. Regardless of fiction or not. Borderline Sociopathic, you don't need to cry for Gar but just because he is fictional doesn't mean depression isnt

Jazko

Theories : -Wally West is still alive. The writers know exactly what they are doing with his lines and there is no reason why the VA should continuously be used without having been plans for the future. - Kaldur and BeastBoy parallel. Both characters are putting aside there traumas, with Kaldur taking on the mantle of Aquaman and doing missions back to back with no rest. Just like what Miss Martian said to BeastBoy, everyone has a breaking point. I definitely see Kaldur reaching that point where he has a mental breakdown from all the pressure that has been put on him. -Superboy Prime???? In the comics, if I remember Superboy-Prime literally forced his way out the phantom zone. Another Unlikely possibility is that Superboy-Prime is in the future, which is why the legion wants to prevent Superboy's death, because without the combined efforts of Superboy and Superman, they won't be able to defeat him. We clearly see Connor's mental get worse and worse -Phantom Zone supervillians. General Zod, Doomsday etc?

trippersigs22
>>81200982

I do not care that in real life depression and PTSD take time to get over. A total moron would know that without having to be told that. Its badly written. This subplot has gone on for the entire season without any change. If its just going to be this exact same thing over and over why should i even care? Realism =/= good.

Cedric Jackson

To be fair Megaan just lost her husband. She has her own mental health to take care of. You have to help yourself before you can help others

Zachariah Wimberly

ORM DID DIE REMEMBER SHIVA KIILED HIM CAUSE HE WAS GOING TO ATTACK THE HEROS FAMILY

Yahroh

Fred Bugg With One G's Speech was the greatest cringe experience that I painfully enjoyed hahaha

MetsuMonsta

Wow after Garfield named off that list of people he had to experience die around him it makes more sense why he’s THIS depressed. Like M’gann I can understand with Conner being her significant other but even tho that’s painful she ran from the rest of her problems on mars, so the only real big disaster she’s facing is losing Conner and her brother being a extremist. Beast boy has literally gone through an entire inner family worth of losing people he’s loved and respected including his mom which he unfortunately witnessed first hand. I don’t blame him for being how he is now but I just wished he’d chill with the medication. He’s gonna end up killings himself which I hope it doesn’t get to that point

Chedder

Don't give up on people with depression, there's always something you can do. I like the way their handling gar cause it's real. Bro is going through it all and saying :he needs to get over it" is wild lmao. People are really impatient when it comes to mental health and that's sad lol.

WindShinobi590

I used to think the Clark Kent "disguise" was terrible too, but I feel like we're also starting to see things in real life that make it more believable that it would work in real life lol

ChrisBrah-4
>>84941120

this is terrible and so forced lmfao why cant shows just focus on their plot instead of using their decade old well-fleshed out show everybody used to respect as nothing but a platform now to show all this crap, like fr...