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Young Justice 4x17 (Patreon)

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2022-04-08 03:46:03
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Lords of Order said YEET!

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Isaac Livingston III

OMG ...I have been doing a binge rewatch and after this episode have a great theory. I believe the bones in the Under Sea are Arions. He was the 1st immortal born after Vandal. We know the head fell on him to "kill" him. We also know, that Vandal can be killed temporarily. Then he regenerates what was destroyed. So if Arion is just like Vandal, and since he wasnt a water breather (like Vandal) it makes sense that his bones are preserved at there final resting place and because Arion cant breath underwater he cant fully regenerate. I believe if the bones were taken out of the water Arion would be reborn.

Dude559

It genuinely pisses me off it took THAT LONG for Lupa to notice that jason died

Jazko

W Reaction. Definitely keep an eye out for Tomodachi Game for a duo/trio. First episode is out but it can very well flop.

DevilMayCarter

When Lupa said he would smack Roshi if he acted out like Beast Boy did, why did I immediately go to when Rocket slapped the hell out of Thor in Endgame?!

Blind 3D

Tomodachi game is good after this highly recommend

DatKid_Kaneki

wait i think this is during the time joker kills robin, i think ur right because batman hasnt been shown for a coo minute. red hood probably is coming

DatKid_Kaneki
>>81493124

im sorry if i spoiled this for anyone. im assuming everyone watched dc movies and shows before hand

Jazko

No you are good Lupa Jason was off-screened. I am 99.9% certain that they will show a flashback. Theres also a good chance the next arc will follow Robin, Cyborg or Rocket. There really is a good chance we might see Superboy Prime and Wally West from a different Multiverse if my theories are correct

RANDY PEREZ

The Jason Todd Memorial was showed during the beginning of season 2. So he died between season 1 and 2 during the 5 year gap. So yea off screen death.

Overlord Saber

This episode had so many layers of wholesome, plus a dude getting vaporized

Kingmakaii

The lords of order was not having it they clapped that nigga the second he put that shit on Lmao

NocticKid

I mean I’m pretty certain that the Red-Hooded Ninja in Santa Prisca with Cheshire

Trayvon Brown

We saw Jason's memorial in season 2 episode 8: Satisfaction. After Artemis's death was faked we wen't down to the grotto and it showed his hologram.

Zarvick

I mean technically speaking we have already seen Red Hood but y’all thought it was Night Wing’s clone. But to be fair y’all might be right, however, I’m certain that was Red Hood. Just before he actually got all his memories back.

rickie woodson

we've never even SEEN jason todd as robin period, let alone him dying. it went from dick to tim, the end. maybe he will be in one of the arcs for this season.

cofaux

jason todd has been shown in the hall of dead niggas since season 2

Mrlanie

LUPA we saw red hood(ed ninja) last season, c’mon man 😭

Smash Bran'Discootch

"Dont worry, your HUSBAND is there." Lupa my dude...why you gotta say it like that? Polyamory is a perfectly valid lifestyle.

Swervo
>>81493124

They might’ve changed how he died in this universe because joker is the one that puts batgirl in the wheelchair but in this universe orphan did that

Stephen D

Yes, Vandal. Why don't you discuss all the secrets to your plan in front of the pod housing your puppet? You know the one that plays a small, but vital role in your plan? Seriously, vandal and the light got lucky this time. If Aquaman had visited his brother even once he would have gotten suspicious and his plan would have been ruined right there.

Omar Bautista

Since season 2 episode FLIPPIN ONE, Jason was dead and Tim was always refered as Robin. I don't understand how LUPA skips one important Batman lore. I'm only mad because I remember all season 3 people trying to explain redhood was on the island and LUPA called him A NIGHTWING CLONE

Stephen D

Lords of Order: You thought you could pull a fast one on us, Vandal? Well guess what? YEET!

Orlandez Malone

The magic school bus keeps showing up in these episodes 😂

Marko
>>81493954

And he's making a light joke about it. Is he making nasty comments? No, he's not. So stop acting like he is.

Isaac

Lupa you forgetful fool. That Robin memorial been there since season 2. No they never showed how he died nor have we seen Jason ... unless you subscribe to the theory that that random ninja hanging around Raj is a resurrected Jason that's being brainwashed which I hope is true.

Isaac
>>81493124

It's not a spoiler. Joker killing Jason is one of those staple events in DC lore that isn't a big deal if said.

bob

Was Kaldur attracted to bussy before or after Tula died?

Robert Solis

we did see red hood last season

razgrizraven

FOR LUPA. Jason died off camera between Season 1 and Season 2. His hologram was seen in the cavern along with Tula and Ted Kord.

Nikolai Cannady

Santa Prisca is where they showed Jason Todd multiple times Lupa

Blackbulls6

Lupa about to get clapped again 😂 “we were rooting for you, everyone was rooting for you”

Devin B

I feel bad for the people chanting Arion's name for weeks just to see him get pretty much vaporized by the crown

von

Lupa…….u know u done fucked up right?

Terry King Jr
>>81495564

IIRC him getting bussy came after she died but I wouldn't be surprised if he started messing with dude after he found out she was with ole boy when he went back to Atlantis that one time.

Davon Thomas

Going out on a limb here and saying the first letter in every title by the end of the season will say "Invitation To Kneel Before Zod"

R'Mani Leavell

You not getting clapped because you couldn't remember if Jason Todd was killed on screen, you getting clapped because you said we getting Red Hood "season 4" LOL

CJ Dennis

Nice to see that Khary Payton wrote this episode and it's apparently his first time writing, hope to see more from him. I do kind of feel like everything was wrapped up a little too quickly and that they could have aired all four episodes last week. Nevertheless, I also like that we see Tracie at the end as Dr Fate.

CJ Dennis
>>81495564

We saw in the first season that him and Tula had a thing or that he was into her.

Brian-EL

Likely the next arc is Nightwing and/or Rocket since they're the last main characters left in this series. And of course Superboy's rescue and Beast Boy's therapy... I. N. V. I. T. A. T. I. O. N. T. O. K. N. E. E. L ...

Tyler

Clapped

Isaac
>>81495564

That's the wrong joke question to ask man. The question should be is that dude his first boyfriend or not because retroactively Kaldur was open to all ( or bisexual but i doubt sea people call it that because thats a term land people use ) by default based on their sea society.

Tim Chaos

crab ahead then Be wary of ill-omened creature

Tim Chaos
>>81493954

I think it’s just a case of not having seen it before. To be fair polyamory isn’t super common outside of out-of-date Mormon jokes or something, and it’s clear Young Justice is trying to do justice to underrepresented groups this season so I’m glad we’re seeing these things. It’s nice to see a variety of cultures in a show like this—It was even cool seeing Zatarra recite the Lord’s Prayer a few episodes ago too

Smash Bran'Discootch
>>81493954

See, this is a comment that i can reply to like a human being. You disagreed, but you gave a valid reason and even examples to back up your perspective. And because you put it so well, I'm inclined to agree. I guess what struck me was the comments like, "Whose baby is that?!" and "Man somebody needs to explain to me these relationship dynamics." were said with a really negative tone that sounded a lot like, "this is weird, I dont like this". so my reaction was basically, "Well just because you're not familiar with it doesn't mean you gotta look down on it" because thats the vibe i was getting from the way he reacted and the things he's said. Now i could very well be misreading the negativity and it could just be total surprise.

Smash Bran'Discootch
>>81493954

I explained very clearly what I was talking about, if you had been paying attention. It wasn't just that comment, it was other comments previously and judging by the fact that my initial comment had a few likes, I wasn't the only person who was thinking that. And if i wasn't the only one thinking it, you can't really say I was being out of line for suggesting it. I wasn't just talking shit, man. I was raising a legitimate concern. Tbh, when taken all together, it looked really bad. But now you have explained yourself, and us few people who got that vibe were CLEARLY mistaken. And i do apologize for my assumption and my mistake. I jumped to a conclusion, and I clearly misread your tone. But as I have also clearly explained myself, you should at least be willing to understand how we arrived at that conclusion.

Kevin

I wonder when Vandal will learn that Psimon is not very good at his job, or maybe he underestimates Megan far too much.

Dude559

I can't believe that they literally went "Oh that is just some random guy." About the skeleton under the statue...It was LITERALLY Arion.

Anderson Lake(The Bleach)
>>81500889

Well I mean who else is he gonna get, and Meghan is one of the strongest psychics in this universe so not many can really go against her in that regard.

Kevin
>>81500889

True there are not many powerful villian psychics, but Vandal is not limited to Psychics, he surely knows a few mages, oder other mystical entities.

AmpLvX

In case it was unclear those bones were literally Arion like the real Arion

Brandon Rodgers

To answer lupas question, Jason’s been dead, we only saw Tim, but we did see possibly him before Red Hood with Talia and baby Damian

Bosastar
>>81507373

Yeah I’m 99% sure it’s him. He even said Grayson when nightwing and them left the island

JACOB T ASHLEY
>>81497233

Yo, I didn't even know they did that with the titles. I went back and read season 3s as well but I agree, Zod and Darkseid are the only ones that really use that kind of phrasing

Bosastar

I think Jason was confirmed dead in season 2

Rickey66
>>81502955

Yeah. Lupa was right initially. He did say those were Arion's bones. Although he might of been joking.😅

Stephen D
>>81502955

Wait... your right. Nice catch. That pretty much explains how his bones were able to stay intact for a few thousand years under the ocean floor.

Unlucky Dreamer

They’re following og members for the arcs so the next one is either Nightwing or Rocket

Arsean Wilbon

Come on Lupa you know the Joker "killed" Jason Todd.

Stephan Ali

Jesus christ Lupa lol. Its your job try a little harder to remember.

DBG

Day 5 of asking for Peaky Blinders

Yahroh

No they never did Jason Todd Story. I think it happened in the comic between Season 1 and season 2. The storyline is more loosely implied to have happened more than to go into actual Details. I wouldn't be surprised if they mixed Joker killing Jason as a mission gone wrong with the team under Kaldur's watch.

Thallon

This is me on Dying Light 2 at night with a lvl 3 chase

CJ Dennis
>>81497526

A closer look at it I can tell that it's more red hair and by the voice. Pluse the teasers kind of show when us Zatanna will dawn the helmet.

Totally Thomas
>>81500889

Vandal can easily recruit M'Gaan's younger brother. His racism and dedication to rule would make him want to help the Light more, especially after getting clapped while being helped by Apokalypse. Vandal can use that to get him.

Jonathan

I like how Kaldur used Batman’s Line from season one when Batman told Kaldur “ You are either here 100% or you need to walk away” 💯

LeFlaneur

Atlantis social norms make my head spin, and I’ve been to Berlin. Kal’s arc was the weakest of the season. As much Garfield mental stuff drag too long, Kal’s stuff was oddly quick. Big mid season 3 vibes, wonder if the writers for those episodes were the same. Also, is Delphi, Kal and Wyn all in a throuple, or they’re just all really comfortable with each other ??? I’ve never liked Wyn personality and character design, so I was hoping he would get killed off and Kal just gets with Delphi.

WhyWaitChris

We did not see Jason Todd die in this series. It was off camera but I am hoping they address it at some point

trippersigs22

They hinted at him being dead during the storylin with Artemis and Cheshire. There was a bandaged up Guy on Ra's al ghul Island that was calling out to Dick and they said something implying hes had died.

Chimpman

Bro they've shown dead ass Jason multiple times already lmao. Name dropped him twice this season already. The second Robin we saw was Tim Drake. Jason died during the first time skip.

Shin splits

Bro I still want to believe them showing Wally in that “ghost” form is a hint that he’s still alive. They literally animate every other character that Connor imagines in their normal states. Fuck

Ian Lurke
>>81493848

We never seen him as Robin alive. But we've seen him as Robin as a hologram. When Artemis faked her death.

rashawn ince

wasnt red son the phrase lex used to activate connor

KRONE

THE HIGH QUEEN

Chuzo

Do you guys remember that guy in all red that was next to ra’sh al ghul the ninja with the hood who lupa thought was damian i have a theory that thats Jason todd aka red hood and they’re leading up to a red hood story with they’re usual twist on it

Yanpo

I honestly wondered if it was a plot hole that everyone was treating Arthur like one of the three "kings" of prophesy, cause we literally saw fake Orm, fake Arion, and Mera as the three Kings fighting off the Red Death. Arthur and Kaldur both played their roles in dealing with the crisis, but it was Mera's power, alongside the two fakes, that was actually holding it back. Glad they clarified this part for me.

CJ Dennis
>>81551747

I think they established Delphis has more of a sisterly relationship with Keldur.

CJ Dennis
>>81549965

Indeed, I noticed that too. Just like how in the third season Best Boy quoted Superboy saying "Get on board or get out of the way" with Conner rolling his eyes. I gusse it's the shows theme of growing up and the teens talking like the adults as they grow.

Sincere

Jason Todd is the person we saw that was wearing the red hood next to ra’s and when he saw dick for the first time that was him slowly regaining his memory back

haywood banks

Y'all gotta think back to the episode about Cheshire

Brian-EL
>>81493124

Well, they think Jason is dead anyway... so that mystery dude on Ra's Al Ghul island doing therapy with Cheshire...

Brian-EL
>>81497589

Not Darkseid because if it's a 26 episode season, that's too many letters. We only got 9 spaces left.

Anth

Imagine coming back to life as an immortal only to get killed instantly

Anth

there was another quote from the fist season when maldire was telling Lagan he had to be 100% there or walk away which is what Batman told him back in season 1 when he missed Atlantis and wanted to go back

MetsuMonsta

Nah y’all may have forgot but you definitely already knew that Jason was dead because you saw his hologram in season 3 and confirmed that the new Robin was Tim. But it has been a long time since then so no biggie

MetsuMonsta
>>81551747

Bro what’s your issue with Wyn? Lol like wtf he’s done nothing but help Kal. His personality shouldn’t really factor in because we see so little of him that there’s nothing to pull from it at least in my book. And aside from Delphi being a female and slimmer she has a similar design to Wyn aside from the obvious being her skin tone. Not attacking your opinion just curious as to why you want Wyn killed off so bad

CJ Dennis

Looking back on this arc, it probably should have been obvious that Arion wasn't truly on there side as he was kind of acting the same way Cassandra Savage was when she was infiltrating. https://youtu.be/zIq__qsqlOA

Omar Bautista

Dick, Jason, Tim, Steph, Damien is the order of Robins