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Magi 2x17 (Patreon)

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2022-11-09 03:34:00
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Mogamett is indeed a very complicated character lol

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Dexter Blessed

Just saying, Mogamett is the Latin pronounciation of the name for Prophet Muhammad

FreshxEli Tv

You Guys Can See What He Was Talking about when she told them what can magicians do without metal vessels after saying she wouldn’t treat them how they used to be treated goes back to his speech about empires and nations only use magician’s for their on personal needs and believe they are the stronger ones if you really think about the fact they fight magis is insane in this world that’s literally like us fighting god 😂 magicians get no love in the magi verse not saying anything is justified but the most corrupt are all the nations and empires sindria everyone cares about themselves in this world hence Aladdin & Titus dialogue everyone does what they believe is right that’s why their rukh never changes because they aren’t directly changing the course of nature or fate itself which you see with Titus his words corrupted his rukh because that wasn’t his fate or nature it’s a lot of lore in this show that can’t be explained lol

GoldenBoy

Bro these magicians are about to get there rocked lol like nah Fanlise in the mix it's up

J

4:45 Guns N' Roses randomly starts playing 😂

$am

Mogamett is like Dr. Umar Johnson, just for magicians. That’s probably the most accurate way to describe him

Trayvon Brown

Mogamett ride for magicians and magicians only. He can show incredible empathy and humanity toward them and the back of his foot to goi children.

Guren

Now you guys know why Titus looks like Scheherazade so much. Man I really feel bad for Magnostadt. Squished between two superpowers who wants territorial dominance. While Kou and Reim look down on the country (they view it as a 3rd power) conquering it has alot of benefits imagine all the Magicians, Magic Research & Magic Tools plus the fact that it is between West & East continent of the Magi world. Mogamett indeed became racist due to his experiences and when Aladdin says he'd "only be a good king for Magicians" he didn't deny it but instead he says that regardless of that his love for his people (Magicians) are geniune and no deceit. Also Kou and Reim are only fuelling Mogamett hate for the Goi tbh.

Devin B

In the words of C-Murder "fuck them other niggas cause I'm down for my niggas" and that's especially true for Mogamett

Sentinel Kab

“Magnostadt has severed ties with Kanye West” lmfaoooooooooo

Dark Danny

his character isn't complicated, he's said what side he's on, why he does what he does and who he hates. everythings pretty straight fowrard

Dexter Blessed
>>95260407

Oh yeah you’re right. Magomet and Mahomet is the Latin version of the name Muhammad. My bad

Mirrorline

I dont think at this point that he is still complicated. He's in the wrong here. He has beef with the the other goi Rulers and decided to take it out on normal goi as well. He used normal people as livestock and took away their freedom by not letting them decide whether they want to go outside or stay under. He's 100% racist. He may be nice to the magicians but because they way he treated the non magicians, he is definitely not fit to rule a country where there is magicians and non magicians. Sinbad gave the magicians in his country the freedom to choose what they wanted to do. Im not saying Sinbad is a good person, but definitely better than Mogamett.

Zazies Beret
>>95266148

I agree, the people he was really wronged by in a significant way were the royals and other people in power. The poor population can't put magicians on the front line, assign them dangerous jobs etc. I get only wanting to take care of your people thats fine, but he literally using the non magic folks as batteries for no reason like ain't no explanation for that imo.

Mr. Tyler

You guys should watch Gate if you haven’t after magi

Skebaba
>>95262283

Aladdin instinctively sensed that Scheherazade Rukh must have a dumptruck, which is why he was confused when Titus turned out to be male & not female, when he went for a closer inspection

Skebaba
>>95266148

I mean it might have helped if the tards didn't start THROWING ROCKS AT THEM N SHIEET for no reason. Also yeah, Sinbad is deffo NOT a good person, for reasons

Dune

Mogamett is trash. His views and ways aren't justified at all because he's blaming the actions of nobles( who are usually trash) on all non-magicians. He's essentially ok with mass murder as long as they're not magicians.

Maroki R6
>>95266148

I mean Sinbad is identical to many world leaders, extremely nice and passionate in the light, but willing to completely destroy you and everyone you know for a greater cause. He’s probably the most realistic character in the show. He’s not a good person at all

chase salii

The director, is just wizard hitler and the country of magicians, the nazi party. Only diff is the jews in this senario are everyone who aint a magician (nazi) lol

joshua rosario

ahhh yes show the people youll only see in sinbad story...yes

Ec Aea
>>95272934

You need to realize too , the action of nobles causes the commoners to start hunting the magician down , ultimately its both the nobles and the citizens that killed and abused the magician of their country. And you can hear the magician discrimination from some of the students there as well. Which reinforced his thoughts about magician being the lowest class citizens in every country that is run by non-magicians. Also remember that there was a "mass murder" on magician in his own country and he experienced it 1st hand too.

Jay rellim
>>95273646

yeah but the magicians were discriminated by everyone and then killed indirectly by nobles.. likely easier to compare director to eren if you watched AoT

Random Guy
>>95266148

The goi underground literally decided to be there, remember what Mogamett said? None of them ever asked to be brought out. Sure some children did, but that fact that they were underground was the fault of their parents, not Mogamett. Remember that the reason why the gois are underground to begin with was because they wanted to reap all the rewards without working for it. If they wanted to they could get out, but they need to work. There are many gois above ground with some of them even in positions in the government.

Random Guy
>>95272934

Remember that the reason why the gois are underground to begin with was because they wanted to reap all the rewards without working for it. If they wanted to they could get out, but they need to work. There are many gois above ground with some of them even in positions in the government.

Random Guy
>>95273646

Except hitler doesn't let jews become government officials. Neither does he protect jews from wars, from heat, from the cold, from famine, from starvation. At the very least, Mogamett doesn't actively try to oppress the gois. Nor does he actually try to kill them off. The main reason why we can't even compare the underground city to concentration camps is because jews didn't enter or stay in them out of their own free will.

Psyko6

To think I was watching you guys on stream while you sneaked out these eps good eye good eye

Sheldon Lewis
>>95272934

I think to some degree everyone will accept mass murder if your own family is on the line. Who would you save, your entire family or thousands of randoms you don't know? Discrimination is in built.

Shaquille Hinds

People like to throw the words good and bad around too much. Mogamett literally suffered a mental breakdown under the previous rulers. This has gone past the point of hate, his mind literally fractured and placed non magicians into the lowest class of animals. He literally keeps them like farm animals as a source of rukh because that's all he sees them as. "Evil" as people like to say willy nilly is someone taking pleasure out of the unwilling suffering others. Mogamett doesn't gain pleasure from non magicians suffering but he can't empathize with them simply because he's mentally broken and doesn't see them as worthwhile creatures.

Rot

Mogamett: "I don't like goi cause they're hellbent on causing wars and attempting to rule the world as one king." Kou & Reim: "Damn right." In all seriousness though, people comparing Mogamett to Hitler or an oppressor probably didn't pay much attention at all to what both Mogamett and the goi underground said and just want a reason to hate him ( cause its easier than understanding his point ). He doesn't like them, but he's not turning them into slaves or torturing them, there are even goi outside who work and participate in government affairs, most of the goi underground want to live there as its been said various times, it sucks that the kids are stuck down there, but again like the Director said: Sure we'll send them up, but are you going to take care of them? Its literally the same shit with adoption, so many kids are suffering in orphanages and we can't just "take them all out of there, as much as it sucks. Magicians are severely oppressed in Magi, and he's just one man who managed to turn the odds to their favor and create a country for them. Yeah sure he's planning on getting funds out of importing weapons created by them ( which is fucking smart, again, Mognasdtadt is a small country, they need to gain funds somehow ), if the goi decide to fuck themselves up with said weapons then that's on them, what he's doing is no different than the creation & exportation of other types of weapons various countries create for the sake of war. Mogamett is practically just a worried dad who wants to leave his 'kids' with a country they wouldn't be oppressed in, and Kou & Reim proved him right that the gois are unhinged and want world domination ( even if scheherazade is a Magi, she acts for the interest of gois ).

Crown Clown

Mogamett reminds me of Magneto lmao

John D

he does oppress the people in the 5th district, they said that if someone "tries to escape everyone in that section is killed" that is evil end of story

chase salii
>>95301487

People are getting caught up on the wrong details, just becaus he has reason to hate goi and he been opressed and used dosnt mean he can do the same thing to others smh

N1ckv3n

OUT OF CONTEXT: Slime is back guys, today they officially announced the third season, and it's going to be crazy. There is no official date yet but it will most likely be like Summer / Fall 2023.

Ougi
>>95292909

true, its like saying farmers who milk their cattle are evil. the line between valuable life and not so valuable life is something we draw everyday so in a way the ppl calling out mogamett as unjustified or evil are either hypocrites or vegans.

Sham3ful
>>95293774

Honestly I was thinking the same thing, he's definitely interesting

britt m
>>95301487

Its kind of hard to tell victims that they have no right to hate their oppressors... of course not all gois are evil like that, but if evil is all they've known thus far from them then... 🤷🏾‍♀️

Devin B
>>95301487

I think that whole "try to escape and everyone in the section is killed" thing is enforced by magicians other than Mogamett. We even saw how that magician with the whip was abusing the people down there. With Mogamett he basically doesn't care what happens to the gois so he allows the magicians to do whatever they want with them. He's basically allowing evil to happen to the gois.

Grelk
>>95301487

so they of course have the right to then become the new oppressor?

Smash Bran'Discootch

The way that Mogamett talks, I don't even wanna use the word "goi" cause it's starting to sound like a slur o.o

Devin B
>>95301487

@Grelk definitely not. Oppressing people that haven't done any harm to you is definitely a bad thing. Just cause a certain individual treated you one way doesn't mean you condemn the group/race that they're apart of.

Ivan Zuker

Something funny to note is that Jews call the non-jews "Goi", don't know what it means really but it's funny hearing it here also

Aziouss

He is beyond racist. He is one step behind nazi Germany. He does not go out of his way to eliminate the Goi. He lets them be useful and that is it.

Maroki R6
>>95321729

Eh.. he reminds me of Eren more than he would of Hitler, given that eldians and magicians were discriminated upon and harshly used by first. And now it’s basically a whole revenge story on the rest of the world. A very well written and complex character indeed

chase salii
>>95321729

Text book definition of facisim and then you get clurless people try make it out like it isnt what it is....racist, facist activity and people be like but he was mistreated. Thats how hitler felt after world war 1 with the treaty of versae, when he belived je was of a superior race. Just like the director( wizard hitler) and magnoshtaut move.

Seraph_Dalgon_

Seeing the Mogamett support makes so proud of this community, being able to see and understand working of such a complex character, you love to see it.

Dark Danny
>>95265538

yeah but when someone usually says a character is complex it's because they are confused on something regarding the character, not saying they are but thats usually it.

J
>>95312560

i mean you could replace every time he says goi with any racial slur so..... isnt that the point lol?

Random Guy
>>95312560

it is a slur though, but a fictional one. So it doesn't really matter.

Argo2Unitard
>>95321729

I swear, people will see a character commit genocide/mass human rights violations and be like "what a well thought out and deep character".

beelzebub
>>95321729

Its actually closer to Haitian revolt against slave masters than Hitler btwv

chase salii
>>95321729

Not really because in this case they believe they are superior to goi, the hatians never enslaved thous who made them slaves, they had to have a whole orientation to manipulate peolpe to seeing their way is right, facist propoganda, u dont need a whole class to explain why enslaving people is ok, if your not a bunch of people who want control cuz they belive they are better.

Jeff
>>95321729

There's a big difference between Magicians and Eldians tho. Magicians are mistreated like most people in the world are. Unless you forgot about all the various slaves we've come across and the presumed many we haven't. Or the general peasantry who have things slightly better. At the end of it all nobody will be out to eradicate all magicians. And there's also the fact that at the heart of a LOT of these hateful scenarios are people actively cultivating them. It can be said very easily that without them the world would be better (not perfect, but definitively better). On the other hand Eldians are hated everywhere they aren't completely in control, and will most assuredly be wiped out at such time as their abilities are outclassed by modernization. Eren has to choose between two annihilations (and he empathizes with both). Mogamett has a completely standard kneel or be made to situation. The only way they're similar is if you get all the facts wrong and focus on a very uninformed "us or them" conclusion they both come to.

Ramone Moore

Me: wait for the hadi my 💀

Drake Chuckle

I am finding it very funny that the OST in this show is as distracting as it is. Flute players going rogue, guitar solos during sad scenes, and sometimes just loud music overall during dialogue scenes.