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Am I doing something wrong as a Patreon Creator? (Patreon)

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2023-01-17 17:13:50
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2026-06
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I wanted to ask, simply because I've noticed others who write fics and other stories on this site that seem to make quite a bit more than me.

Noticing that, I also noticed that a few of them lock their newest content behind a $10/month paywall. But that seems to work for them as one writer that I saw just yesterday was making over $8,000/month.

Naturally, almost 2/3rds of my own amazing Patrons are at the $1/month Tier here. So, it would feel wrong to suddenly raise prices or lock them out of things that they previously had access to.

But what better people to ask about things like this than my Patrons themselves?

So, my friends and fans, what do you think we could change to improve? Both financially and for your own experience/enjoyment as my Patrons. Should I remove the limit on some of the Higher Tiers? Should I get some other method of enriching the stories going with your help an input? Fanart is an option...but that costs money too. I'm sure you all have thoughts and ideas.

I wouldn't be where I am without you all, so I want to hear from you! What do you all think? Is there a way to increase your enjoyment and the financial earnings?

Is what I'm doing now inefficient or am I not valuing myself enough? (I know I've had issues with that in the past.)

I can't wait to hear from you all! Let me know what you think!

Comments

Josh

I won't lie to you I'm only here because i saw your mha plot bunnies, and i love those to death. Then i saw a god damn Izutoga + overpowered/confident Izuki Fanfic and that ticks literally all my boxes. And from there i wanted chapters early so here i am. I say all that for context; i don't read 90% of what you upload (recently) and not because i don't like your writing but because im not a huge danmachi fan and I've yet to dip my toes in other fan fics out side of mha. And thats why i came here, it was only later i noticed you're not and MHA writer so im still adjusting. If "plot bunnies" and "synthesis" and "the sun hero" were the norm I'd pay even 30/month (conversion rates 30 for me would be 15 for you) don't even get me started on forevermore LOVED that shit All in all I'm not sure if I'm the kind of patron this kind of post is meant for. Evident by the fact that im only now seeing it

MadnessIncarnate

Dude, you're not doing anything wrong. Don't let yourself get caught up comparing yourself to another. It's a slippery slope that leads you too afraid to make your own work. You're doing fine, just focus on quality over quantity, and you should be fine.

sebastian contreras acuña

Personally I do not think you are doing something wrong and although I am not one of those who contribute the most ($ 5 mendual) I think it would be only in you the change in memberships

Shura

Honestly, maybe run a poll to see how many people would be opposed to making the 1$ tier into 2 or 3 dollar? Gotta start somewhere when it comes to changes, yeah?

Xander1994

Honestly you're doing just fine the way you are right now. While it's true in some stories fan art pics of characters(oc's or canon characters) are a nice touch but I don't think they are truly necessary. The stories themselves are phenomenal and they are just as good as other fanfiction writers I've read. I say just keep doing what you're doing, I hope my input has been helpful and know that whatever you decide you got my full support! 👍

TigerSwarm9122

Your a good writer and do not need to change the way you do things.

Chris Shaw

Honestly, with the quality of your stories you can definitely raise your prices by $2 or $3. Another thing that those creators do is offer polls to choose a direction for stories for higher tier subscribers.

Space Cowboy

I would at least remove some of the restrictions on the 10 and 20$ tier. You’ll probably get some people changing their donation if you do that. Other than that? I think that you’re doing great.

Bertram K Reese

Your not doing anything wrong it just takes awhile for people to discover new writers. Just keep doing what you are doing.

Mr Cyberpunk

You 100% can raise your minimum tier up a dollar or two with how high quality your stories are. And some of the authors that I am a patron to release stories earlier to the higher tier supporters (usually like a week or two)

Reaper96

Honestly I think it's cause you focus on so few stories at a time and while all of them are amazing your name isn't gonna be as widespread although with your quality it's really a wonder why your not getting as many supporters... Also I've noticed that with other writers they tend to write more... Lewd fanfics... *Shrugs* sex sells more readily then high quality fantasy sadly and I want to say the monthly updates are a bit of a stretch for the price but the quality more then makes up for it

Woods

I wouldn't dive too deep into comparisons. There are a variety of factors that can influence membership totals. I like your content and think you do well. That said, it's good to look for ways to improve, especially if this is your livelihood. I work in business marketing & analytics if you need some help feel free to DM me. I'd be happy to give some advice on organic growth.

AshField

It is entirely up to you, some use patron as a career and give their best so they have a higher price as a result while for others it's a hobby that generates a good side profit. Don't compare yourself to others, your stories are amazing. I for instance I wanted to subscribe to other paetron accounts but anything above £3 was to much as I had to think smart with how much money I could spend for a monthly service. Making your £1 a great option

Eric

I will be honest about this and I hope you take my complaint with a grain of salt as a single individual as I am sure my opinion isn’t shared by most. My only complain about your writing is that you have a lot of stories going on at the same time which leads to very little consistency on when individual stories will be updates (I understand higher tier groups have some control on what stories get updated). In my case I like 2 stories that you write but seeing as it can go months without those stories being updated means that I likely wouldn’t support paying more. There are other writers I support on a much higher dollar amount because they do about the same amount of writing but it is all focused on the same story or two that I enjoy so it just leads to a lot more chapters and stories moving along faster

dan dutton

Honestly you are doing great! You make a few stories at a time but we can all see the time and effort you put into each and every one!

Boss Redd

Everyone's got their own situation in regards to how much they pay if you would have put a minimum on yours while I imagine various readers would no longer be able to pay I read a little bit of Eric's comment above and I kind of agree you got a thousand and one stories and it seems like you update them randomly I'm not really complaining though these are good stories you're putting out

King Rob

Your doing fine in my experience which is also a affordable one that doesn't destroy my wallet while also providing good content

The_Slave_Knight

I personally love how you have it set up, but if you wanted to make more, I've noticed that your highest tier has a limit on how many people can be in that tier. If you were to remove the limit I'm sure there would be more people subscribing to the Higher Limits. I don't really know though. Sorry.

Stecor

I have to agree with Ashfield and Eric I'm a single man who can only spend so much money on a subscription so I love your 1$ option however the fact you have soooooooo many stories that you wring at the same time the wait between updates is slightly depressing for certain stories such as the sunlight hero story I read all but 2 of your stories and love them all then there are your one shots that I would love to see become full on stories but like ash said it's up to you and I personally believe you are a amazing writer

AshField

You could try getting a TV tropes page for you fanfics, as a form of promotion, lots of people use ot to find good fanfics of certain fandoms. Just a idea

Brody Meech

Your doing great in my opinion just continue with the quality of your work and you'll be ok!

Ymere

I absolutely love your stories. I don't think you are doing anything wrong or necessarily that others are doing anything more right. I think it all comes down to exposure. In fact though you are the only author I have given anything to even if I am one of those folks who is only at the dollar tier. I would compare yourself to others too much I think that is always the path to unhappiness. Mostly you probably just need more exposure. The rest will come in time

Cirex123

Im not really into most of the stories/fandoms youre writing, so I subscribed just to read all the content for the one I liked. After that, the update rate for a single story isnt fast enough to justify staying subscribed. Of course, for people who enjoy all of the content and fandoms, that would be different.

Redpyramid

Hey you could try making a poll to see what people think

Callum Runchman

I've seem others state it as well so I'll just briefly mention it but I think your too divided on your works. I follow a few different patreon creators and most of them only have 2-4 main stories going on at once. You seem to have tones. Whilst your certainly updating them all, because they're so many only a few are regular updates and that causes a lot of confusion at times. I don't want to tell you how to do your job but I'd recommend putting a number of the less popular stories on hiatus so you can focus on 2/3 main ones, complete them and then revive those paused ones. It might initially cause a few people to get upset but you can never please everyone and in the end it will be easier for you. Also with your £1 fee for lowest subscription you've got a lot of followers who but aren't really making tones as not many will upgrade. Even just £3 minimum would see a big jump in your profits and only those who aren't that interested would unsub.

Kz3838

I think you current system is great, I think that if you increase the limit on the higher tiers people would fill them up. As a single guy your low costing first tier is amazing as I want to show you and your amazing stories some support but I can't really afford to show much more for extended periods of time. Hope this helps, and I look forward to what you put out next!

Michael Turner

I think some people who make more on patreon have storylines slimmed down. Like Danmachi for instance everyone loves that manga/anime. So I’d say look at your stories and see which ones are red hot. Stick to maybe the main 4 because that’s what majority of your readers want. I feel that maybe most of your dollar subs stay there because they only like one or two stories maybe and don’t know when they will be updated so don’t want to pay more for less reading if that makes sense. I paid for an upgrade a while ago to go to 5 bucks a month because I love your Danmachi stories, all of em. Hopefully if you decide to slim it down your dollar subs will see that hey I’m getting more updates on the stories I like so heck yea I’ll pay 5-10 bucks a month to read. I hope this makes sense and this is my opinion only.

Chichi son

2 ideas I've seen others use: 1. run a vote on which stories to update in a given month but have the votes that don't win in a given month carry on to the next month ... also have the number of dollars a given subscriber has given for that month could be the number of times their vote counts for .. this would allow every story in the rotation to eventually get some updates while allowing your more popular/bigger money makers to get updated more often 2. Something I think you've seen but didn't quite pay enough attention to notice it for what it is ... when you first post a new chapter lock it to the higher tiers but then over time open it up to the lower tiers.. one of the other author's I'm subscribed to when he first releases a chapter only his $10 subscribers get to see it then a week later his $5 subs get to then another week later his $1 subs get to see it That said money is tight so I'm on the lowest tier for each of those I subscribe to and I've passed up subscribing to a number of authors because their lowest tier was $2 or $3 and I didn't care enough for their main stories to offer them more than $1

Thomas E Nellis

Lol you make as much as one of my E-5’s who have served for at least 5 years. Without BHA but if you want to make more up your soldiers to 2 dollars a month and give them their own lottery separate from the officer lottery making both tiers better then up officer price by 1 dollar they get their own chapter chance as well. Net you write 1 more chapter if you can support that. I don’t think you need to lock chapters behind a bigger pay wall. You have such a big following because you write amazing and are affordable for the massses. Just doubling support soldier price to 2 dollars would be enough. Or I could go to 300 dollars and you can write 3 muse chapters muahahah or all of the above

Home of the Brave

I don't think you're doing anything wrong really. I like that you have a lower priced tier because personally I only read 2 of your stories out of all the ones you frequently update. At the moment our tastes in fandoms don't sync up and I also love crossovers which you don't do. This just a couple of reasons why I never went to a higher tier.

Rokatsa

I am a patron to a bunch of different creators here, and I have to say from my own personal experience and opinion, it is truly down to what is offered each and every month beyond the stories. Some of the creators I'm a patron of or used to be a patron of seem to fall into several categories. The ones I'm no longer with pretty much fell off the map with zero notice, or explanation while still also charging something like 20 bucks for one or two story chapters in a month, it became untenable for me, and likely a bunch of other people leading to a likely collapse of that creator, while the more successful ones I'm a patron of seem to have the same 1 dollar model you use, but also update much more frequently by using smaller chapter sizes/daily chapters whichever is easier for them to do. Some of them even do chapters for what seems to me to equal only like 3 or 4 different "scenes" or events in the story. At the end of the day, I find the ones who are in the 1 - 5 dollar range to be the better creators because of that low cost. I personally value them far more than the ones who charge 10 or 20 dollars a month for the same amount of work, because from reading those stories, a good bit of them don't have half the quality you put in here, but I'd never be able to afford a higher price for a long time. My only true suggestions are either update more often with polled chapters, or open up commissions for the stories in general. If a person wants more chapters for a specific story, have it be commissioned beyond your normal releases if you can handle that extra workload. Don't ever give deadlines beyond what you have already proven as I've seen and felt the burnout that comes from that kind of pace. I think that's all I got.

John McCormick

You are a phenomenal writer that others should learn from you. You are doing nothing wrong. I came here initially for “Artificer” and found so much more. I like the idea of staggering chapter releases based on tier. I like the changes you have started but I hope you add “A friend In Need” to your main rotation because it really became one of my new favs. Love your work and don’t get down unless it’s to party 🎉 !