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Onto the famous sequel in the Alien Franchise! Definitely very different to the first! WAY more action and a bit less of the horror suspense vibe but all of it added up to a whole heap of fun!It was great to get to see Ripley back in action and kicking a heck of a lot of butt this time around!

Full Length, Un-edited Reaction.Movie = Blurred and Muted after first section in order to synchronise your copy with us.You MUST own your own copy of the film to watch along. Else you just watch a blurred out box... 🤣Lauren & Harry,Flix n Feels

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David Bennett

Hey Lauren, Hey Harry!! SO glad you guys watched this one (little disappointed that ya'all didn't watch the special edition, partly because it IS better with the extra content and partly because barely ANYONE streams the theatrical cut, but so it goes.....). I have A LOT to say about this one, so buckle UP: I have to say that James Cameron is one of my favorite directors, in fact, I have a list of MY personal 100 favorite films, and he has no less than 4 in the top 30 (The Abyss #1, Terminator 1 and 2 #10, Alien 1 and 2 #12, and True Lies #28). He's a masterful storyteller. that being said.......... This IS one of those films that I simultaneously LOVE and HATE. The story IS amazing but stupidity and hubris causes SOOOO much crap for the characters. To some degree that IS necessary, but this one is just bursting at the seams. Due to my experience and interest in military stuff, a LOT of my complaints involve military related things. In NO particular order, here it comes: 1. Weyland Yutani part one (the evil, gigantic megacorporation that drives all the wheels) is SO large and SO wealthy, it seems ridiculous to me that they would even bother using US Space Marines in a situation such as this. Given their goal of acquiring a xenomorph for study and exploitation, having a purpose built unit that is fully inhouse and beholden to NO ONE but W-Y corp would be the best chance to have the most skilled, most competent and best equipped individuals on the job. 2. Colonial Marines part one Given that WYC knows very well the dangers posed by xenomorphs, it is preposterous to me to send ONE squad (AND call it a platoon....WTAF?!?!?!) with a severely inexperienced Looie in charge. If I was, say a full bird in charge of dispatching the marines, I would send a FULL STRENGTH company, 120 men to investigate the situation. With probably 200 or more xenomorphs, there's still room for the filmmaker to have battles, even epic ones. 3. Colonial Marines part two The fact that Gorman didn't think about the ammo in their rifles being a potential team killing explosion is inexcusable. ALSO, it seems like the marines didn't carry nearly enough spare ammo GIVE THEIR PROFESSION. (Seriously irritates me that even someone as level headed as Ripley, for her descent into the hive, didn't, as far as I can tell, take more than ONE spare magazine.) You both mentioned that you felt the xenomorphs died to quickly. I'm gonna have to (gently) push back on that: the marines DID have firearms, effective ones. That makes a ton of difference, animals with basically TWO melee attacks (their jaws and their tails. The film doesn't delve deeply in to it, but the xenomorph tails have a naturally produced sedative that is used to make it easier to incapacitate prey in order to capture it for implantation, in fact, in the novelization by Orson Scott Card (excellent book, btw, adds a LOT of good stuff to the story and the lore), Gorman is actually incapacitated in this manner as they are trying to load the surviving marines on to the apc after the first disasterous run in with the xenos.) But basically, it's the idea of people with guns vs animals with claws and teeth. Colonial Marines part three You both commented on how 'un-serious' the marines seem before going on mission. From a civilians point of view, I understand this thought process. But from a military point of view, that seemingly casual 'don't give a shit, SIR' attitude is an integral part of baseline military units. When you get into special operations units, you see it less but there is just this thing that happens when men are bonded together in a combat unit. You kinda have to experience it to really understand it. I watch the film and that just tracks as real to ME. Colonial Marines part four weapon stuff: Lauren had asked about the weapons that drake and vasquez carry. Those are essentially the squad support weapons of the group, called the M56 Smartgun. Analogous to the light machine guns that a typical army squad carries in most modern armies, to lay down concentrated suppressive fire so as to enable the fire and maneuver part of the squad to do their thing. IN fact, the weapons are actually heavily modified mg-42 machine guns. The M41A Pulse Rifle that the other marines carried is actually a fire arm cobbled together from parts from a thompson submachine gun, a remington pump action shotgun, and a spas twelve shotgun. Only ONE fully functional example was made for the film (it's my understanding that Cameron owns that one), several weapons were made with JUST the 9 mm thompson portion functional for the actors to utilize. Xenomorph part one One thing that isn't mentioned onscreen EVER is the life cycle of the Xenos: pretty much everyone can figure the facehugger to chestburster to drone. In the second film, Cameron introduces the soldier class. One of the easy ways to distinguish is the ridge on the back of the xeno's head that is displayed so prominently. The Xeno in the first film didn't have time enough (and wasn't in a situation enough) to go through the transition, so it's head was just smooth all over. (also, ya'all watched the theatrical cut of the first film, which of course is fine, most people DO watch the theatrical cut of that one. The directors cut actually shows ripley, shortly before she enters the shuttle to escape, finding Dallas and at least one other (I think it is Brett but I'm not 100 percent sure) cocooned on a wall, in preparation the same way the colonists were for implantation, this has been the subject of much debate, since with only one NON-queen xenomorph and NO eggs......WHERE would the eggs have come from?? Does the xenomorph drone have some way of producing an egg? I really don't know the answer to that one) Weyland Yutani part two In the extended edition, the viewer gets a small taste of life in the colony before the clusterfuck fairy shows up and WRECKS SHIT. One of the conversations that takes place onscreen is about the order from Burke (though we don't know that until later) to go check out a location. One of the guys asks something along the lines of "WHY?!?!?" and the other fellar (a more senior member of mgmt, I believe) says "I don't ask why because it takes two weeks to get an answer and the answer is ALWAYS "don't ask!"" This, more than other things, also helps to establish how long the trip actually is to get to LV-426. My best estimate is that Newt had been on her own for roughly 6 weeks before Ripley and the others arrived, because it would take a while for WYC to even be aware that something was wrong, then they would have to mobilize a response, which likely would take AT LEAST 3 weeks to even get there. I'm presuming that Ripley and crew started FROM earth (nothing says otherwise), a response team that Hicks says would take 17 days likely would be coming from somewhere closer, so....less time in the freezer for the responders. Another thing you learn from the extended edition is that it is NEWT'S parents that are sent to the derelict space craft and it is HER father who is the first to be impregnated. She actually sees him with the face hugger attached which of course is the start of a highly traumatizing experience for the poor girl. I do have to give credit to Paul Riser, for making me HATE Carter Bourke with a fiery passion. That guy......Every time I watch this film, I want to reach through the screen and choke the life out of him. (in the extended cut, we actually see him cocooned and implanted as Ripley goes on her rescue rampage, she gives him a hand grenade to ease the suffering.....) Well, I think I have cyber-yacked enough.....hope my mini-novel isn't too irritating to read. I would STRONGLY recommend the first two terminators and the first two predator films if you haven't watched them already, VERY good films, in my ever so humble opinion. Hope you guys are doing well. I'll catch you on the next reaction!

C Russ

When do you guys usually go live with a Q&A? I was just curious considering I’m in America lol. I’d love to plan for it and make sure I was awake! 😎

Flix n Feels

Hey David! Thanks for clarifying all of this 😊 We watched the movie on Disney so that's unfortunate it wasn't the extended cut! It's so hard to know when to watch the extended cuts or not cause some are better than others! What a shame in this case 😞 Yeah we thought it seemed odd given the money the operation would cost to only send very inexperienced people and limited ammo, guess it was to show how much they underestimated Alien and honestly the company just didn't really care for human life. Ahh we didn't really give to much thought to how long the families had been up there and how long it would take to journey there if something had gone wrong. That is so sad about Newts family and she will definitely be further traumatised after everything she experiences at the end. But having seen what they were capable of makes sense as to how she was so good at hiding! Can't remember if you had an opinion about the third movie? Don't think we will get to it this year but would love to see it before we start predator!

Flix n Feels

Oh yes we definitely need to do one! Thinking it may be a little tricky to do with a good time while here in NZ, we are moving very soon and this will give us a better time zone to do a live one! We were thinking in the meantime of doing a submit your questions post then we will do a Q&A that isn't live and once we are set up in our new location we can do a live 😊

David Bennett

I honestly HATE all the alien films after the second one, the quality goes DOWNHILL very fast. I honestly would choose to watch ANY of them. And when the prequels came around, the franchise took another supersonic nose dive into the shitter. It's a shame that what started out as amazing storytelling turned in to pure unfiltered unadulterated trash, but that seems to be the way of Hollywood for the last two decades or so, there are a few good ones, but they are a VERY FEW with VERY FAR in between....

C Russ

Awesome! Whatever works I’ll be there!

Flix n Feels

Yeah that is a shame, so hard to see how you could make this franchise unenjoyable considering how great the concept is and what the first two managed to achieve! But then again so many classics have also fallen to this 😣 We will get around to the remainder but think we will take a short break first

David Bennett

It is odd to me that 3 of my favorite sci fi FILM franchises (Aliens, Predator, Terminator) each have TWO good films (the first two) and a metric BLEEP ton of crappy sequels after that. Each franchise also has a an extended universe, with comics and video games and novels and so on AND each one has some pretty good examples of stuff. ONE hugantic, ginormic example of that is the crossover Aliens Vs Predator. This started as a series of comic books which were TRULY fantastic in every way I can think to quantify a comic book. The story was amazing, the characters were very well fabricated, the series was COMPLETELY within the canon of both base franchises. Canon is something that is HUGELY important to me as a consumer of creative content. Some folks might judge me for that. I care not. If the OG creator of a universe lays out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, along with a., b., c., and d, ANY creative following in the process had DAMN WELL better adhere to the CANON of that universe. It is NOT their place to ignore or change it. AVP had characters that I cared about, characters that I worried might not make it through the situation they found themselves in (REAL stakes in the story telling). Had James Cameron stepped in and adapted the OG AVP story IN to a film, I have NO doubt that the quality would be to the high level of Aliens, of Terminator 2, of the Abyss (YA'ALL NEED to watch that one). Unfortunately, someone took a giant shit on a paper plate, sprinkled hollywood glitter on it, wrapped it up in tinfoil, and said "we're gonna film THIS instead....." I cannot comprehend that decision. The twin levels of hubris and stupid, oh my WORD, it just.....it makes my head want to explode!