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Thanksgiving Brainstorming. (Patreon)

Published:
2024-11-26 15:17:41
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2026-06

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I got cooking and cleaning today, family over tomorrow, so chances are I won't have time to write a chapter. Expect the next chapter to be on Friday-sat.I will do some writing today, but when my wife is 100% awake, I'm obligated to pitch in.Since we have a bit of an extended absence, I'd like to do some brainstorming with you guys to make sure the time isn't wasted.So we're approaching the climax of what will be book 2 when it's published, and I'm trying to make sure all the pieces I'm juggling come together into something cool at the very end.So:1: What do you think is going to happen? This gives me an opportunity to see if I'm a good level of predictable, and possibly steal better ideas.2: Are there any factions I'm ignoring/forgetting about? Currently factions I'm including are Wyrd, Will, Churches, Mercs, Akul, Baker Girls. How can I bring them together in one place when all hell breaks loose? (and it will).3: Should Will build a statue of himself when he saves the city or should someone else do that?4: Oh yeah, the guy in the coffin. I totally forgot about him. Shit. need a vignette. What do you think he's up to? I was planning on having him be an immortal who has witnessed the evolution of the tower. It's a solid writing technique for offering a deeper view into the worldbuilding. He's gonna be mentally damaged in a way that offsets the inherent power of his immortality, because that's how that technique works.We thinking robot, or just a climber who made an immortality class a few millenia ago when rarer creatures roamed the lands?

Comments

Joshua Gunty

I think Will destroys a statue of Akul in just such a way that it resembles a certain masked climber. Incidental to the battle, not William's intention, but everyone else can't help but wonder if he made himself a monument MID BATTLE.

Crispined Glover Potato Snacks

For the baker girls, they could remember who they are and be used to neutralize the kaiju that is about to go wild by going ant mode on it like that one scene from Kingdom of the crystal skull.

JFB

Stray cannonball happens to lop off a hand from a whole row of statues

rwn

IMO: the Kaiju trapped in the middle of Akul is a huge and obvious vulnerability that every other Lord knows about, so the baron certainly has all sorts of impenetrable Lord-level contingencies in place if he's willing to let other Lords into the city at all. Wyrd messing with it is so obvious that I don't think he'd do anything but threaten to. I think the biggest twist would be for Wyrd to not actually have any particular plot going on in the city (aside from nabbing Will), and he's literally just visiting to screw with Akul, put him on edge, and distract him while something else happens on the floor, probably involving a Kaiju - like maybe Wyrd has another team somewhere else capturing one to start making his own city? Or maybe he needs to steal a wild Kaiju for some reason - like he has a consumption-type Twisted that's going to eat a Kaiju and make a Kaiju army under his control.

Mariposa

I thought the guy in the coffin was his lover or someone he loved deeply because of the ring he had that he said wouldnt work anymore . I thought the ring was a cursed ring that transferred all damage (including aging) to the one they loved. And that he put him in the coffin so that it could infinitely heal him, effectively gaining immortality. With the coffin broken his immortality hack was broken as well and that's why Wyrd could kill him now. I like the idea of him being a robot better though. For the statue idea I thought it would cool to have a hidden silhouette thing. So mid battle like someone said a structure is damaged in such a way that it looks like Will when light comes through and it looks like Will. Or the holes make his mask as a negative space art.

Matthew P. Condliffe

I had understood the dude in the coffin as being tied to Baron Akul in a sorta Dorian Grey manner. Any damage sent the baron's way instead hit him. The coffin was a stasis cell the Baron came accross or had found for him, that stopped the damage from actually being inflicted thus an immortality loophole was born. I expected you to come up with some sort of back story about how the coffin dude and the baron were once best buddies who were exposed to something that caused the damage transference (a green glowing goo mcguffin) but the baron was ruthless enough to figure out the implications and with great remorse but absolute self interested resolution locked his buddy away and prior to the coffin kept him healed up as the barron went stomping towards becoming a lord (or better securing his lordshipiness). (Like Reggie, but on steroids.) I would say living in a state of being constantly wounded and near killed (mostly dead in the estimation of Miracle Max), with a coterie of high level healers and clerics there 24/7 just to make sure you didn't stay dead, oh, and also being kept on a sort of suicide watch or tied up/restrained so you couldnt dish it back, would have a negative effect on anyone's mental health.

Owen Allen

I think Will should make a casual, off handed comment about not wanting a statue, and someone overhears/mishears him as wanting one

Crispined Glover Potato Snacks

The Sacopho-Guy being an ancient climber with a cracked mindset would be good vehicle to exposit more of the story about Granesh, Oroboros, Holdna, and Will's parentage, and His handy sacrifice. Perhaps, (pet theory), a friend of his parents who is aware that Oroboros and Holdna are Will's Grandparents and Granesh "killed" Oroboros out of racist jealousy of their relationship.

Mi

1°) Wyrd is going to release the Kaiju under the city and somehow redirect any damage to it to him and then reflect it back in a catch 22 situation where letting the Kaiju rampage is seriously bad but trying to kill it is worse. 2°) I find the Zodiac not fleshed out enough for the moment but it might not pressing. They somehow paid a lot to resurrect a former scion of the family but then not even check up on her? 3°) I would find it hilarious that the Statue would be a gimmick from the aftermath (like Wyrd petrified to cancel his reflect/eternal life etc) and looking nothing like Will but the Oracle says it is, in a weird and awesome way, so the Church makes a fuss about it and everyone goes like "Oh ok it's a statue of William Oh ... now I see it ?" 4°) The guy in the coffin should be a living relic combination! Like someone made the perfect powerful relics set that emulates sentience and died wearing them but the Set is still there and weird (and probably linked to the Tower in a way). But besides all of this: keep on rocking and love to the family!

Uroš

The kaiju in the middle of the city either dies or is released. This happens immediately after the tournament finishes and the Wyrd faction is distracting the Akul faction. Since Wyrd plan to take over oilton for his son failed, he is trying again here with Akul. He has brought more tangled with him and they're being set up while again Wyrd is distracting Akul. We might see some lord on lord violence, or get another glimpse of lord power (First one was the Wyrd guy getting that saint upgrade). Maybe Wyrd is planning to take out the whole of Akul faction and only wants his own faction to rule inside the tower. He seems like the type, plus his build seems really strong. While mayham is going on, Loth's traps vs Tangled, Baker girls vs Akul minions, Lords vs Lords, we see a Mark vs Will confrontation part two - electric boogaloo. Maybe it's for real, maybe it's for appearances only (Mark still hates his dad, doesn't he?) (Question for everyone - How would you counter the Wyrd type thorns build?)

Uroš

Off-handed comment eh? xD

Crispined Glover Potato Snacks

Additionally, I like the idea that they are just a very powerful climber who grasped effective immortality by having sufficiently advanced resistance to mitigate all damage including Telomere degradation. He's only cracked due to descending the tower from the top floors too quickly. The sarcophagus is a magic item used to more rapidly cure Miasma sickness.

Macronomicon

that's an interesting twist on #1 I hadn't thought of, and would make them much more dangerous.

LucasTheLost

Counter thorn builds with... TRAPS. I didn't do the damage, my trap did. I could have reset it, but now it's broken. Sad! Environmental damage. Drown the fuckers. Dump them in a volcano. Sucker something else into hitting them! Say, maybe an incredibly powerful boss monster? Now where could we find one of those on the fifth floor... hmmm... Lots of possibilities.

Crispined Glover Potato Snacks

It'd be funny if Will gets knocked out long enough to wake up to see that someone in Akul has used a Primary power to make an unchangeable statue of him, but it looks nothing like him similar to the little play at the start of the current arc.

Mi

Wyrd's build is infuriating and insane. Like that blood ninja from Naruto, Hidan. Somehow those characters give me the serious creeps.

Fucking Shracc

3: Making a Statue of yourself is cringe, someone else should do it. 4: > He's gonna be mentally damaged in a way that offsets the inherent power of his immortality, because that's how that technique works. We thinking robot, or just a climber who made an immortality class a few millenia ago when rarer creatures roamed the lands? Climber, negative side effect is being joe biden, needs to use 1 charge per hour to not suffer from dementia, gets 2 charge per day, cannot level anymore. By stacking gear he might be able to get a few hours of being normal per day.

Mi

Non damaging control : petrification, curses, overhealing (thinking cancerous growths that somehow register as positive so doesn't activates the Thorns), incidental damage (rock falls from high and is not linked to a direct application of power so no Returning damage). The real kicker would be with the son: what would Thorns reflecting Thorns look like? If it's an infinite loop father/son double kill could be a thing. But if Wyrd Senior is still kicking and a Lord he must have counters to all of this for sure.

CoveringStorm

More of a long term prediction based on vague memories of the wording on Will’s slow regeneration. Depending on how much the tower considers the phantom hand to be a part of Will, it would be hilarious if the phantom hand started to grow a phantom body very slowly. It would take forever but a phantom shoulder would be funny

Uroš

Traps was how they blew up Oilton and it nearly killed Loth. Also later on the swamp floor, when Will was drowning Mark, he was also somehow getting drowned. I like the Non-damage control idea, it seems like it might work. Infinite thorns loops? I think the one with the highest % return on damage or highest % of lifesteal would win.

LordDark

Honestly hoping tangled kaiju.

TheGreenKraken

It's already been established that traps still harm the setter. If you can somehow convince the system that the traps source is the guy with a thorns build you could double or triple the efficacy

Nate

William Oh invited his closest friends and family for a feast. He caught a snipe (from Up) garnished it with Scrats acorn (from ice age) and utilised Toothless’ flames (how to train your dragon) to roast it along with help from a fantastic fox he had caught not too long ago. He named the feast thanks giving as standing, looking over his majestic creation he knew. He deserved thanks. Thank u for the chapters Macro

Emily Gurnavage

"Oh yeah, the guy in the coffin. I totally forgot about him. Shit" Lmaooo im on the $5 tier atm so I *just* finished the chapter where we learn it was a person inside. Guess I wont be seein him again for at least a bit. Edit: Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I don't think im a bit fan of the immortal being a robot **unless** you plan for a significantly large chunk of the story to take a sci-fi turn. We have gotten hints that the tower was perhaps built by a suitability advanced version of humanity in the past, but there isn't really enough sci-fi stuff actively goin on (that we know of, also im $5 tier so behind some) for a robot not to feel kind of awkward and forced in my opinion. An immortal human feels like itd fit better with the story so far as I know it. Edit2: The statue. Hm. One on hand, it sounds pretty full of yourself to build your own statue. Usually thats done by the grateful, saved, etc afterwards. But on the other hand, that does sound like something Will might do. I think I gotta go with "it depends how you handle it". Do you plan for it to be a mostly normal standard statue? Then let someone else do it after. Is the statue gonna somehow end up 200 feet tall and/or made of something ridiculous like all the melted down gold Will stole from someone? Then Will does it.

LucasTheLost

A dog that shits in the house and doesn't care: Fecopath. I just made that word up the other day. It deserves broader dissemination. Poop mage: Fecomancer! "Feco" is a fun latin prefix. And you can really desecrate that "Biko" song with it.

LucasTheLost

Fecomancy: When the Tower thinks your sacrifices are shit.

Exrotes

Give the Dragon of Akul a statue and start building a second mythos totally unrelated to Will after other people start slapping on dragon masks. Overall I think we are missing a faction for people like the Lanovers, the people that are wealthy and powerful enough back in the first layer that they can afford to give their kids designer builds and lock in guys like Reggie into bodyguard contracts. Weaker than Lords but if things start going sideways they'd be the vultures going around trying to claim something for themselves.

Ichikira

1.) I think Akul turns out to be the real bad guy and mastermind of the Tangled, not Wyrd. I think that the kaiju in the city is actually the mama Tangled (it would make a lot of sense to have the captive kaiju be insanely weak to mental attacks because there's no way that focus build like Akul doesn't have some mental attack). Maybe Wyrd's objective here is to actually free the sentient Kaiju he feels is being tortured unfairly. Of course Wyrd will have secondary objectives too, and a general lack of compassion for the average climber..., but maybe his motives on the 5th floor turn out to be more noble than they seem.

Ariel

I think Wyrd is going to make a move on Akul, maybe even with some other Lords. You've brought in that assassin already, the one who killed Oilton; it would be weird if you have a big showdown, and he didn't play a role. I think Will has to find a way to make the tangled immune from activation, specifically the baker girls, maybe even give them a way to control some of their class. I don't think they are free from Wyrds influence, so Will will need to tamper with that. Separately we know Wyrd is now way stronger so he's prob gonna fuck people up, including Akul. Another big question is whether Wyrd actually believes the anti-Ganesh story or not. If so it will be interesting to see if he tries to target them as well. Another interesting dynamic is that if young Wyrd tries to fight his father, then that would create an interesting ping pong effect of thorn effects. Probably cool to explore at some point. Ganesh will also make THEIR move, and Holdna is going to try and stop them, Andover may just look to profit somehow, may even ally with Wyrd if the price is right. I wouldn't be shocked if baker girl is actually still alive (one with the ring,) and she somehow gets involved, or she's Jean haha. Mercs break loose and cause hell obviously, but if they have a more specific goal I don't know what it is.

Ariel

Will doesn't seem like the guy who cares about a statue in my book. He seems more fascinated by pragmatic things. I would say let someone else do it.

Ariel

I like the idea of a climber or a creature. It would feel odd to bring robot into the mix without having to do a lot of work to justify all the tech that isn't currently active in the story.

RedInkQuill

Remember, there are the other lords as well. So you can have them bought off to ignore things by Wyrd. That will create a tension with Akul if he survives and remove their auction passes. Perhaps a couple of them will have their vassals try to kidnap will and loth. Something to think about

Nate

1. What do you think is going to happen? Current Situation: Will will (hehe) win the tournament in dominant fashion. The Kaiju under the city will be freed. Daddy Wyrd will make a play to claim Will even though he won the tournament and in doing so it will lead to Will ruining the assassination of our flamey badass baron. Baron looks favourably on Will. Not many strong theories on anything past that. List Possible Outcomes: Will wins tournament. Will fights Kaiju. Immortal in coffin awakes and power level revealed. Relevance of immortal to Baron revealed. Loth enlightens Will (us) as to the meaning of many new words. (V important) Daddy Wyrd attacks Baron and launches side operation to capture Will. Will saves Baron and evades capture. Loth revealed to be a dragon or has the potential to evolve into one. Travis Key to Kaiju defeat (taunts and all that). Baker Girls get mind controlled at some point. Will discovers this through receiving a baking related item from them. Really Want: More of Will’s heritage to be revealed. More of Loth’s backstory to be revealed (Luminary e.t.c). Will to have a challenger that shows up every couple tower levels and gets handily whooped only to come back (resurected/healed) each time and challenge him with some hilarious comeback somehow based on Will’s legend. 2. Are there any factions I'm ignoring/forgetting about? Zodiacs Want to meet Alicia’s Dad. What is he like? 3. Should Will build a statue of himself? Yes totally! Would love it if he builds a statue of himself that is tiny and is of him doing something he would find terribly embarrassing but then discards it somewhere for it to, by pure chance, be found by a William Oh fanatic (called Nate?) and then be immortalised in an extremely public place and on an incredibly large scale that serves to further build his legend. 4. The guy in the coffin vignette Origins Robot made via the transferral of a consciousness into a machine made in an experiment to simulate life Precognition type abilities damaged due to being coffined for so long Morbid sense of humour His Perspective Truly old being Observes something about Wills origins that scares and or interests him Decides to tag along with the party Goals Something Will related. Visit something on the higher floors Repair his damaged abilities Robot Tower is meant to be getting harder over the centuries so surely rarer creatures would be returning to the current era rather than having been prevalent in the past Robots are cool

Nate

Genius

Michael

It is an immortal robot It is Matador He figured out how to extend his lifespan when Perry gave out classes

Emily Gurnavage

All his crazyness that doesn't make sense is just references to the other story, lol

D2FU

The baron had a giant painting of a past life brandishing the same tomahawk. He knows a lot more than he’s letting on.

Ariel

Which chapter was that in? Also what are you thinking?

D2FU

The baron had a giant painting of a prior life brandishing that tomahawk. The one he had time to examine and learn exactly what it was. He knows shit’s about to go down. Chances are most of the other barons are in the know, but not on the same team. The giant snake is about to blow any bit of subtlety away. The church of granesh is bound to throw a hissy fit over it. Holdna defends. And our protagonist will either completely miss out or recognize that he needs to GTFO before the public decides whether to vilify or deify him. Brianna will recall herself when other tangled start wrecking shit. Either to return to one body or remain shattered. Depends whether your planned monogamous relationship is with the prize he wants to earn or with the one by his side. The zodiacs following up is a plot point that’ll come up after the dust settles, I imagine. There are enough moving parts at this point to add that to the ‘later’ pile. That ear collector is never gonna get his freebie jobs

Aloysius

Would be funny if they came across an ancient statue that looks like will so to save the time making one they just reuse that one and renew the inscription to be accurate. Will of course isn't surprised they would have already made a statue of 'him'

Melody Haren Anderson

4. Alternatively, might be a person who was not from the world of the Tower. Perhaps it's creation brought in elements, which is part of the reason why ruined versions of existing places can exist. The Tower is not part of the space-time outside and warps the rules.

Meowgrr

What if the guy in the coffin has a Sleeper class, he can gain crazy power, but ends up having to sleep for years at a time, giving him only windows of effect on the wider world and a long, long history?

StrollingEye

Factions : the Tower itself is a faction. It does make snarky comments to Will. So, the tower, and maybe even the floors themselves are a faction of.some kinda. Floors might be like teen-agers in sentiment who are looking to harvest strong players for whatever reason (harvesting causality has been done, let's not do it again). Whereas the Tower as a whole (a spunky grandfather type) is looking to develop lords, which means keeping folks intact, and not dead. If you add the Tower and Floors together, that is the "Oreobos" creature the church has their knickers in a twist over. So, kinda right, kind wrong.

Cyrus McEnnis

1. I think the plot to destroy the city is a distraction. Oilton, what was the objective? Probably not for Mark to become a lord, that was just capitalizing on the situation & a distraction. No, it was most likely to steal a relic, most likely the rod that's welded to Lord Wyrd's talons. So, it follows that this is the same thing. Wyrd threatens the city in order to steal something that synergises with his build. It's likely also why he has such a hard-on for making Will a vassal - he is, after all, close to a perfect build for relic acquisition. But if Will is off the table for political reasons, then Bee is suddenly very much in the crosshairs. 2. Will's parents or vassals thereof come to mind as a potential faction. And not necessarily a benevolent one. Gretchen / The Orphanage potentially, could hook them in as looking for Jason. The other nobles targeted by Wyrd, the man almost seems to be built to make enemies. Mark's fiancee could stand to be built out a bit more although that probably slots into the Akul faction. The old roc sammich vendor might be amusing to play with. Oh and definitely on my list of "Where the hell are they now" - the party that betrayed Will right at the start. 3. Definitely someone else. Will doesn't build his own legend, it's taking on it's own life now. I'd be OK with Loth building a giant statue shaped trap however >.> 4. Obvious option - vampire, or a vampire based build that drains life force to fuel its "immortality". Slightly less boring options: one of the builders of the tower. A giant leprechaun. A fae of sunlit meadows, who needs to be kept in the dark or terrible things will happen. A many-angled one, a mundane extension into our dimension from a cthulian horror from beyond the color chartreuse.

RAQN

It’d be very funny if the guy in the coffin had a class/ability combo that made him immortal, but his whole kit is outdated and suboptimal because he came from a time so long ago that there wasn’t much knowledge when he specced. You can have someone sane and interesting, and also a lot of fun “ok boomer” moments

Cyrus McEnnis

It'd also be nice if Will was countered by Mark to build the narrative tension between them before Mark reveals his secret baking hobby and they kiss >.>

Abbolinaris

1. Wyrd will somehow try to steel the coffin but William will stop him in an impropable way until the baron comes. 2.Don't think so. Someon like really older experienced climbersoke Williams parents could be a faction of their own whose influence you start seeing in slight ways on thenhigehr floors. Like a secret organizations. 3. Someone else and make it really gaudy to a point that it matches to rumors about him in being excegerated in every way. Love those each and every chapter! 4. I super hate the finding am old teacher type who can't reliably use his power trope to no end. I would prefer him maybe giving one important piece of information and than dying or ascending or something. Or maybe even William accidentally somehow resealing the coffin and saving the city because it stops wyrds plan that way and empowers Akul

Ral

William sent a letter to Lord Zodiac and told him about the tangled (wyrd arm monsters).

Ral

I like the idea of coffin guy being a robot. I also like the idea of him being connected to the tower. Like an administrator, or maybe he used an administrator as a sacrifice.

Ral

I like these ideas

Ral

Have a bunch of tanks fight him, they can srug off the kind of damage they deal and can rotate to keep safe. The best counter is to overplan.

whistler

Ooh or if he has broken / bugged admin priveleges

whistler

Yeah, it'd be cool if he was completely broken in his time, and only very OP now

Ral

Like his abilities are different settings he gets access to. Turn god mod on. Unstuck button. Debug stick.

Josh Cothran

Idk about the other stuff but I think it’d be cool if the immortality is pretty much a curse. Like he’s immortal, but stuck at the level and stats he had when he attained it, and he’s “alive” but been consciously trapped in the coffin for thousands of years and went a little (lottle) insane.

Josh Cothran

He attained something similar to the body Will is striving for but something he ingested (think Will circumvents it with aspect of goat) caused his body to get stuck where it was at. He did it to himself but the effects weren’t what he wanted, then his enemies realized they couldn’t kill him so sealed him away instead

Fleisch

It could be one of those situations where the man uses Miasma as a cultivation technique thingy to make himself immortal, but it degrades his mind over time.

StrollingEye

What do I think is going to happen - several captured Kaiju escape their prisons. They are small and weak compared to current ones, and are relatively easily contained. A fresh brand new empowered Kaiju floor boss arrives just after the last one is taken out. (Kaiju boss has banal telepathic conversations with everyone while wiping out infrastructure) The other lords are skittish, and head back to their levels to make sure their own areas are safe. Apart from Rot witch (such a great concept) who doesn't really care about places in her level. Tangled appear, mass debuffs are farmed out by Loth's insects and the use of Taunting. Not too sure where the Tangled then go, but out of the city? Coffin has 'Pi' awaken, an immortal maths genius who is a gifted power is as a numerologist, and is somewhat ADHD twitchy with distractions, all the far end bell curve chances for being safe and well keep happening, but their brain impairment is that they can't focus more than 5 seconds to save themselves - sees patterns in everything, precognitive yes, but unable to set priorities. Is it hungry for dinner? Is it time for a nap? What about the nature of life? Do plants think faster now? What sound is Butterscotch? Finds Will recurrently fascinating because of Wills part human part Immortal snake heritage.

Apotheosis

For the immortality guy, hear me out here: technologically advanced civilization that knew they were going to be wiped out for whatever reason and wanted to leave behind some sort of legacy, so they got together what they thought of as the perfect immortality and information preserving class and gave it to this guy (maybe they could only get the stuff for one person, maybe there's others like him out there) and loaded his mind with as much information about their technology, culture, art, etc etc as they could. But what they didn't expect is that with all that information in his mind, remembering anything takes him at minimum minutes as his brain has to sort through all the neural pathways to find what he wants. So he'll think of something or be asked a question or anything and for anything other then basic functions he's got a delay where he can't do anything but wait to remember

Apotheosis

HAH I love it, we love matador

Charles Simon

1 Kaiju escapes but is successfully entrapped again by Loth (who also traps the tangled using insects and balls of yarn) 2 No more factions for now - can add more interesting factions once we get to the higher levels 3 freed tangled build kaiju sized statue of Will after he leaves city to celebrate their freedom 4 immortal has conceptual class that negates harm both to himself but also to anyone he impacts. Effectively he does no damage so isn’t overpowered and therefore easily trapped if not actively being harmed.

Crispined Glover Potato Snacks

I just realized something. If my pet theory is correct that Will is the grandson of Oroborus & Holdna, then I think his name isn't William Oh, It's William O. As in William Oroborus. It's written as Oh because of will's bad spelling.

Pecca

Hear me out, immortality in the shape of mutiple personality's. Everytime the immortal "dies" he shuffles to a completely different personality with completely different builds, memories, etc. feel like it could lead to funny gags where one of his personalities is about to drop some massive lore and he just fucking dies and oops now he's a farmer turned nuker who shoots rads at you

whistler

Kinda like an extreme version of the doctor?

Pecca

Yes! Great reference lol

JACOB HEBERT

First Oilton, now Akul. It seems like cities within the Tower are being targeted (even if separate groups are doing it, I don't believe they're truly independant. It's too much coincidence for so many major city-toppling moves to happen all at once). Maybe the immortals is a full Undead/Necromancer/Lich class climber, back from when it was legal. And has "short term memory loss", Dory-style.

Dlandis

First thing: I never successfully guess what happens next in your stories, though I did suspect lloth as a possible more-than-friend. What ever happened to the group that first tried offing William Oh? A random brigade of Kobold hangers-on might be cool to show up as support for a big semi-expected conflict. A random Salazar prophecy could be a warning to higher tiered factions via some diviners powers. Unsure.