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Boomer Fight! (Patreon)

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2020-07-23 12:00:38
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2026-06

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Boomer Fight! Shatner VS RLM Explained!

We noticed a bunch of Twitter action recently. We wanted to explain our part in it all.

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Manuel Johnen

Never meet your heroes (or tweet at them). But luckily we'll all be dead soon anyway, so who cares...? :)

Xyerian

I think some older people just don't get it, gentlemen. Once spotted Jay outside of a movie theater, said an appreciative word, and went on my way. Incidentally I was visiting my boomer mother, who lives near the Milwaukee airport, and after I told her of our brief encounter she went out of her way to not only watch several RLM videos, but also attempt to contact you all in some vain hope that you'd send me a bottle opener or a letter saying "Thanks. Fuck off." or what have you. Not only is that insane, as she doesn't understand humor, it is quite possibly one of the most embarrassing things she's ever tried to do and admitted to me. If she understood Twitter, I would have to disown and institutionalize her. Sorry Shatner wouldn't take more than cursory glance at anything, fellas.

Maureen Vallette

Mike seems genuinely sad at the end and that makes me sad.

HarryYeti

If Shatner actually watches this video, he'll only make it through 60 seconds again, because Mike is using the Phaser from Next Gen. and said it was from TOS. That for sure triggered Bill.

Ashley

Mike, you are a true gentleman.

Rachel Snead

Wow. I'm not on twitter and I didn't know any of this was going on, but this is a classic example of why old people shouldn't fucking be on there either. Some one please take away their drivers licenses and their ability to post on social media.

Renus Dewberry

I love Shatner, but after reprising his role as John Luke-Picard, he deserves some fair criticism for trolling Star Trek fans.

Scott Barrie

I bet Mike sincerely enjoyed being a little part of Bill's life, even if not how he always imagined... {raise eyebrows}

svend schwartz

Hey mr tambourine man... Shatner style..

Marvin Falz

I didn't skim 2.500+ comments on YT, so the following might have been already said. Does W. Shatner troll people on Twitter? Very likely, cause this seems to be part of his nature. Billy Blackburn shot a lot of private footage on TOS sets, and Shatner is pretty much clowning around all the time. And Leonard Nimoy told the story where Shatner asked Nimoy three times to show him how he screams the words "Pain. Pain." (That was on the set for "The Devil in the Dark," for the scene where Spock gets in telepathic contact with the Horta.) After Nimoy had screamed the third time, Shatner told someone else to "give this guy an aspirine."

John Kott

Mr. Stoklasa's concluding statement was so genuine...as an elderly Star Trek fan myself, I understand totally how he must feel. Love and respect from Canada!

Swami

My heart literally broke at the end when Mike said he can't take anymore :( :( :(

Rhea

Hey Mike, this'll sound lame but honestly, you're a bright fucking light in this dark world and your passion and humor makes so many people's lives just a little more worth living. I know you admire Shatner's performances, but try not to take to heart the unfounded opinions of a 90 year old, egotistical celebrity. Sorry Twitter is such a strange cesspool of shit stirrers. Oh and it was very sweet of Jay to be there solely for emotional support.

Peter Robinson

That’s got to spoil watching Star Trek (and TJ Hooker) forever now. Also 2 episodes of Colombo.

Yarn From Space

I am really looking forward to 10.5 hours of Rich and Mike talking about TNG.

Charlie

A beautiful and confusing tragedy only Twitter could write.

Katy

It is at times like this that we should all take Gene Roddenberry‘s words to Wil Wheaton to heart, “Bill Shatner is an ass.“ All Shatner does on Twitter is argue with Outlander shippers and autistic people during the month of April (that’s how you know it’s really him and not an assistant tweeting) He has been in his Norma Desmond phase since the 60s. We have to accept and move on.

David Perek

Shatner is a master of viral marketing. He was able to turn a few tweets into a lot of publicity for himself with a certain audience. Probably worked out well for RLM as well, and I'd bet he sees it that way.

Sarzac

Jay is right about Twitter - that site is the Mos Eisley cantina of the internet. Mike seemed genuinely sad about this whole thing though, and that sucks since he and the rest of RLM have brought such joy to us fans over the years. Hope the folks on Twitter chill with Shatner and that this doesn't continue. Now who wants to take bets on if the TNG episode where Beverly Crusher falls in love with a Scottish ghost makes either Mike's or Rich's list of best episodes?

Coleman

It's definitely one of his handlers or a PR team managing that page. Every time his Twitter makes some reference to 4chan it's all over clickbait sites and reddit and then Shatner is back in the news again, which is the goal. A lot of celebrities/companies have taken the PR approach of appealing to terminally online millenials with dank memes, see: Wendy's. It's never brought up with him outside of Twitter or in-person. While he seems pretty sharp for someone pushing 90 I bet if you asked him to make a tweet on his phone he wouldn't know how to do it. I mean, what are the odds that Shatner even knows what the Kelvin Universe is? It doesn't have anything to do with him, so he wouldn't bother to think about it. And while I can't imagine a millienial saying "sporto", I certainly can't imagine Shatner using terminology like "ageist" or "LGBTQIA".

Masa

Really shocked that Mike was using RLM twitter. I thought he scoffed at social media and let Jay have the reigns.

Jesse

Mike, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Shatner could identify a 2009 era uniform and use the word 'Kelvinverse'. I seriously doubt he's even watched the movies more than once, let alone know fandom terminology like that. His account is pretty obviously being run by some PR firm, unless you think this 89 year old man is really shitposting on 4chan and Reddit. Dude probably still rocks a flip phone.

Ifrit9

This video was way more entertaining than it should have been, thank you

Tomas

Poor Mike but so excited for the TNG review, will there be ds9 one too?

Nicola Paterson

Aw this video genuinely made me really sad for Mike. Jay is 100% right though twitter is mind poison. There’s a saying in Scotland, ‘Whit’s fur ye’ll no go by ye.’ Seems apropos.

Justin Burke

Well I feel bad for Shatner, he was Sooo close to discovering awesome content but bailed too early.

Najiba

I'm actually surprised you responded to Shatner. I remember it blowing up a couple of days ago and figured RLM would ignore it. But hearing what Mike had to say at the end really bummed me out. :( Fans' intense love for a show or people can get out of hand and unintentionally annoy people. So that is why I don't engage in the evil Crap-pile that is Twitter. I still love RLM. I still love Bill Shatner. Captain Kirk will always be my favorite captain.

Ian Isom

On an unrelated note LOVED Jay's Under the Skin shirt. Appropriate. Keep your chin up Mike! #canceltwitter

Jessie Zimmer

I had no idea this was going on, but I'm glad I stick primarily to Patreon discussions. It seemed like the whole "issue" was Shatner not understanding (and then not wanting to understand) and fans, however well meaning, not knowing when to let something go. It took me a couple episodes to understand what the fuck y'all were doing, at first. I found you through Jeremy Jahns reviews and was originally all, "Why the fuck are these guys so angry?" But then I clicked on a Re:View, really enjoyed it, and worked my way back through BotW and HitB. Now I look forward to your videos and consider them some of the most entertaining work on YouTube, but it is content viewers need to spend more than sixty seconds on. And even if you do, some people will still see RLM as Marvel shills who hate joy, sunshine, children, puppies, and fun. Social media is a pit devoid of manners and basic comprehension skills at times.

Bananafish

Poor Mike. 🙁💔 We all appreciate you!

BP

People need to just stop using Twitter

Mike St Louis

This is the first I heard of the Shatner feud. If I could post a photo here it would the one of the Springfield newspaper with a picture of Abe Simpson and the caption “Old Man Yells at Cloud”. I got far more enjoyment watching Rich and Mike discuss Picard and Disco then I did with those respective Star Track shows. I watched the Re:View of ST:TMP a few times at least because I also love that film. You guys are great and I think it’s an honor that Shatner has devoted some time tweeting about you. How many people can make that claim? Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the upcoming TNG video! PS: I wish Rich and Jack were making more episodes of Previously Recorded. They are great! Jack is a pretty funny dude.

Ryan Spaulding

I hope you guys don't let this affect things since it blew up so much. I love hearing Mike and Rich talk about Star Trek, even when we fiercely disagree. It's a shame the shitty RLM fans took it to this point.

Unknown Fucktion

The good old Kirk, and/or whomever is behind him, are peddling some creepy cryptocurrency affair. It's pinned on his twitter. They'll do with any kind of attention online no matter the intent or context and they are getting plenty. People trying to vindicate Mike's good intentions should stop.

Dan Hiestand

Shatner is an icon, but unfortunately, he’s also an embarrassingly pretentious old man who is almost completely ignorant of modern day media.

Nicola Paterson

I had to unfollow Shatner. He’s been going on about it all night (for me here in Scotland it was all night) and it’s just too dumb now.

Lisa

Won't somebody think about Pet Shop Boys?!

Brandon Grant

I refuse to believe any 90 year old can even read text from a phone. That millennial running his twitter is just a non ironic prequel fan still sore about the episode one review. RLM seems to have spawn a lot of angry millennial guys , have you seen renegade cut? He hates RLM like a jilted ex

Dez

jesus I am so glad I don't engage with Twitter

Rattslinger

Yeah, I think maybe people should cool it with getting RLM involved in b.s. like this Twitter mess.

George Ray

Never meet your heros, eh Mike?

Cult

Suddenly corona is the second worst thing to happen this year. Keep it up Mike!

Kai Morawe

My girlfriend and I have been enjoying your videos for a long time now and we find this whole situation (especially after Shatner's response to this video) kind of heartbreaking. To show our support we finally signed up for your patreon and wish you guys all the best, because we love you and your content. Greetings from Germany.

Greg Enslen

You guys are awesome. Sorry to hear about the Shatner controversy, though I'd have to agree with the other posters who surmise someone else is running his social media--I can't imagine someone like him up late at night scrolling through Reddit.

Greg Enslen

Is it bad that I'm looking forward to ST:Lower Decks JUST so we can have one (or several) RLM review episode(s)?

Dylan

This is completely nuts. I've never followed Shatner, but geez.