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The Good, The Bad and the Ugly - re:View (Patreon)

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2022-08-18 13:04:55
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The Good, The Bad and the Ugly - re:View

Set phasers to "grandpa" as Rich and Jay talk about a stuffy old Western. Or is it????? It's The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly...one of the most famous and influential movies ever made, and it was done by some weird Italian guy.

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benoles20

like are we ever getting batman???

Damon Killian

(Tears envelope) 'Describe the cast of BoW in three words or less'. HYHOOOO

Joshua Mannix

I always love it when you guys can talk lovingly about a movie or show. Its a nice breath of fresh air.

Robert Dodrill

Oh I'm so happy to see you cover this. Definitely my favorite film. I love hearing Jay's perspective from a first time viewing. For a Few Dollars More end standoff is also great as it adds a lot of emotion in with the pocket watch story.

Jamie Harrold

The Batman was so forgettable I would've not thought about in months if it wasn't for people continually asking for it

Kim Luu

This movie. I love this movie. So excited to watch this episode

DonMac

My birthday wish was for RLM to re:view the Good the Bad and the Ugly. Of course that was my birthday in 2018 but it's true now.

Manuel Johnen

"One of the best fucking things I've ever seen in my life." That was exactly my reaction, too... :) Also, the best fucking moment of this best fucking thing is the five or so minutes at the end, where the characters are standing around in a graveyard and just look at each other and nothing else happens... go figure... XD

Ed_67

We surely live in civilized times now, where a great actor like Eli Wallach could only play greek roles and Tuco would be played by some random untalented mexican *sshole, 'cause the concept of "acting" is completely lost on a mob of little fascists. What a great time to create art, no wonder Cinema is living a new golden age.

Lelio Mulas

The Dollar Trilogy is amazing, and Once Upon a Time in the West to me is a masterpiece. With Death Wish as the lead, classic good guy John Ford as the villain, and a drop dead gorgeous Claudia Cardinale as the widow in distress. I suppose this film wouldn't pass the Bechdel test today, so watch it before it gets cancelled. Whoops, too late.

Benway23

Thank you for your work. Oh, and fuck The Batman.

AshesBoomstick

Now Jay needs to see "Once Upon a Time in the West". I sometimes flip-flop which one I love more; that, or this movie.

Mac Poleon

Excellent re:View! I love the Dollars films and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in particular, so this was a real treat. I'm glad Rich stood up for Col Mortimer as a good Van Cleef character in A Few Dollars More. To humbly offer a suggestion, while it's certainly true that many of the mass produced golden era Westerns were derivative and uninspired, the best of them are at least as good as Leone's work or even Unforgiven, the final word on Western grit. I don't mean this as a criticism, but it's a shame that all of the 30s-50s films tend to be dismissed today as distractingly and artificially clean in their visual presentations and morally simplistic in their stories. For anyone interested who hasn't seen a classic from that earlier period or a John Wayne film at all and wants to test any preconceptions they might have, I'd recommend checking out two standouts: The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and especially The Searchers, a master class in subtlety and subtext. Thank you as always for your top-notch work, RLM!

Paul Turner

Had a long comment all typed out. Fortunately, before I hit the Post button, I was able to reminded myself that no one wants to read it except me. You're welcome.

gymcat100

I love you guys, obviously I'm a patron you. But I know and love this movie too well to hear you two discuss it.

Zan Ferguson

I have not watched this movie and probably 17 years or so. Perfect time to revisit it. I know it will never happen, but a Re:View of Quest for Fire would rock my world. And on a completely unrelated topic, it would be amazing if the bear painting from the VCR shop was somehow available in your store. But I suppose that may be unethical since it’s IP and likely nobody knows who the artist is.

Amanda Foster

These videos seem to always be uploaded like right before I go to bed and right before I wake up in the morning. Are you guys trying to sabotage my sleep pattern?? Haha

Marvin Falz

It's a red letter day movie-wise. My copies of Eraserhead (with David Lynch commentaries), Ed Wood, and Sweet Dream Alabama (with Sheryl Lee) arrived earlier today, and then re:View! Sergio Leone just loved classic American westerns. I'm not particularly interested in the western genre. I mostly like Italian westerns, especially when the story uses Christian imagery to make a comment on the human condition. Tuco implies that his brother didn't become a monk because of the goodness of his heart or something, but because he was too cowardly and weak to become a criminal like him. They only had these two choices, and each of them chose the way better suited for them. Once Upon a Time in the West is free from Christian imagery as far as I'm aware, but Jill is an archetypal figure, and her arc is connected with the growth of the town. And that's similar to the village facing a drought after the death cult had kidnapped their children in Indiana Jones, but more epic, and with that beautiful Morricone music. Going from one era to the next. I'm going now, too. ;-) Thank you, for this re:View, Rich and Jay!

David Banes

Very cool! Still I wish Re:View did a few more movies they didn't like such as when they did Independence Day. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more like that.

Scott Grabel

Then there’s the step child of the spaghetti westerns, “Fistful of Dynamite”, where class warfare, and the legacy of Mexican and Irish revolutions get incorporated in. Maybe the most emotional and serious of his spaghetti westerns.

Rattslinger

The revolver Tuco builds is just him taking the best pieces from different revolvers of the same model.

Amy Lynch

I would have watched a 3-hour version of this discussion.

Mithos56

I recognize The Good... As the best film in the "trilogy", but for a Few Dollars More is one of my absolute favorite movies.

Tony James Morris

Rich... You came up with "Impressionist painting of an 80s action movie" You are a real critic lol.

JTruts

Great content as always. Hopefully Jay's interest in the other 2 is enough to justify a follow-up episode.

DonMac

I think the title "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" not only refers to the 3 main characters but also refers to the specific war happening in the background representing wars in general. It also has some "Good" (bravery and stuff like that), but a lot of "Bad" (like the POW torture and all the death and dismemberment) and a lot of "Ugly" (like the pointless battle over a bridge).

Mark Fetherston

'A Fistful of Dollars' is a complete remake of the samurai saga 'Yojimbo' by Kurosawa. And 'Yojimbo' is Kurosawa's Japanese take on American Westerns. So, Tarantino stealing from 'The Good the Bad and the Ugly' is just part of a long tradition. And for what it's worth, 'Yojimbo' is in my top five movies of all time. It's just fantastic.

EHLOVader

This reminded me of a music and video mashup by Smash tv that features this trilogy and other westerns prominently. It's called gunslinger and available on YouTube. Set aside an hour and enjoy. https://youtu.be/QxqYOxwi4ks

Top Hat Monkey

Thanks guys for a great re:View! I will also recommend to Jay one of my favorite movies of all time (Western or otherwise); Once Upon a Time in the West. Also, as a (young-ish) Grandpa, I can attest that "we" love westerns, but I know there's a lot of disagreement amongst older Grandpas between "traditional" westerns and the spaghetti type. I love em both!

DonMac

If Jay want another epic-style Western from Sergio Leone like this one, he should watch "Once Upon a Time in the West" - it's a lot more epic than the previous 2 'Dollars' movies combined.

andrew

I grew up with this movie. It was quoted and referenced regularly in my household.

Jeff Kleist

Don’t forget Fistful of Dollars is a remake of Yojimbo. Also don’t forget Lee van Cleef is the Master Ninja

Amanda Foster

I’ve never seen any of the man with no name movies but I have seen the Dirty Harry movies. Fun fact: my brother wanted me to watch the Dirty Harry movies and instead of starting with the 1st one, he showed me Sudden Impact… p.s. totally unrelated and probably inappropriate but Jay Bauman is 🔥😍

Rhea

Ugh I GUESS I'll finally watch what's supposed to be one of the greatest most influential films ever made even though it'll make me a boomer

Aliciasheesh

Loved this re:View! I’m interested in what you’ll think of the other two Jay. I’m with Rich in that Fistful of Dollars holds a special place in my heart. Also if you’re on a spaghetti western kick, definitely check out some of Sergio Corbucci’s films. While not technically as good, they are still pretty incredible and even more cynical and violent. The Great Silence and The Mercenary are two of my favs.

Kurt

Hey, don't knock multilingual coproductions! Financing from multiple countries gave these movies less painfully tiny budgets and more exotic locations. Not to mention multinational actors who collectively had appeal in more markets. Speaking of Spanish locations: when the Man With No Name films were made, Spain had just recently opened up to moviemaking and tourism after spending a decade or so trying to be North Korea. This opening up led to more, uh, liberated ideas making their way into a repressive dictatorship. So these movies were practically heroic, and every movie should be shot in North Korea.

Controversies in Church History

Glad to hear Jay loved the film. Re: older Westerns, they weren't all silly. (Most were but then most films are. We just remember the great ones and our memory airbrushes out the rest.) John Ford's The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is suitably dark and morally grey. It definitely represented a departure from his earlier work. Even then, a movie like The Searchers, which was not great, is still kind of dark. (FWIW Wayne was good in both of those too, even though he had virtually no range as an actor.) There are others, like High Noon, which hold up as well. Anyway, loved the review. Cheers!

sgl

Popping in the comments to say RLM I love you so much but as a Kurosawa mega-fan and the host of the "Mifune Mondays" stream (Jim Maxwell and I watched Hidden Fortress together and talked shop!), I refuse to watch anything made by hack thief Sergio Leone. But if you do get around to a Yojimbo re:View...

Bill Wilson

Nobody mentioned it yet, so here's a bit of trivia : Sergio Leone had someone else in mind as his Man With No Name, none other than our good pal Richard "Blooddebts" Harrison, who was very active in Italian cinema at the time. Unfortunately, he was quite fed up with westerns, and this project looked like a bomb. Leone asked him, at least, some help to pick a replacement. Out of three, Harrison picked Clint Eastwood because he's the only one who could ride. He still jokingly claims that this is greatest contribution to cinema.

DonMac

If they want help picking out an old school Western to watch, just start with the ones in the Criterion Collection

Mr Moxie

Can somebody tell Mike to watch "Strange New Worlds"? It's actually star trek unlike everything since Enterprise. If he doesn't like it I will send RLM 1000$. That's how confident I am that he will like it.

Jeff Kleist

Let’s not support Alex Kurtzman in any way. All it will do is encourage him. Allegedly if the new batch of shows fails to catch fire, is finally going to lose power over Star Trek. Of course that doesn’t guarantee his replacement will be any better

R_Pupkin

Fantastic re:View - the Rich & Jay format is a lot of fun. (Side note: the re-visiting little seen movies from Rich’s childhood were excellent episodes). Really great to get Jay’s reaction and commmentary on the film. It’s nice to have the new, fresh takes after a lifetime of loving this movie. Also - I think For a Few Dollars More is incredible. Absolutely brilliant. There are criticisms about it (long and with a muddled plot) but Lee Van Cleef is awesome as a pseudo-good guy (he may not be a white-hat but he’s got a moral motivation) and I love Gian Maria Volontè in that film. His Indio is the psychopath bandit that fuels nightmares! great stuff, and as usual Mr. Evans nails it: to all you GenX-ers, try something different! You won’t regret it.

DonMac

I wonder if Jay and Rich know that they watched 2 difference cuts of the movie. Jay watched the 4K disc which is the shorter U.S. theatrical release and Rich watched the one for sale on Amazon Prime streaming which is the longer Italian cut. The extra scenes only fill in a few plot points but do have an Angel Eyes scene in the middle of that long section he's otherwise missing from the movie. (The voice dubs are all off in the extra scenes due to being dubbed decades later, which is why the U.S. theatrical cut is usually preferred.)

Alan Shindel

Surprised they did not invoke Yojimbo as the inspiration for fistful of dollars?

omar casillas

Thanks for immediately ruining the ending you hacks!!!!