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The honor system so far has pushed players toward being saints, and I don't think that's entirely by choice. By being honorable, you gain access to more scenes because the girls actually love you. Meanwhile, in the Him route, you do the exact opposite. This route involves lots of killing, abandoning, and generally being an asshole to everyone. To be fair, that's what a dishonorable person would do, right? But we're talking about an adult game here, people aren't here to play a murder simulator... unless you are?

So instead of changing the honor meter itself, I'd need to add new choices. First, you'll get the choice to be rough or selfish. Then, if you want to take things further, you'll get the choice to be outright evil. Players who want to be more dominant can stop at the first choice, while those who want the full-on Him route can choose the second.

This will allow players to roleplay as a selfish flirt without becoming an irredeemable psycho. Sorta like a bad boy type, ya get me?

Naturally, this means adding new scenes and changing several existing choices. It'll also take lots of careful writing, because what exactly qualifies as "rough" without crossing the line?

Anyway, this is just an idea. Don't expect anything for now.

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Vortex

Thanks for the info 👍 . Now we just need vaginal for the blacksmiths daughter 😅

VelldaVoodoo

So just a suggestion while working on this, don't just make the new choices about being more dominant with the girls, you can also let us go down the darker path by letting us be more ruthless in general. I don't mind the saint path because i would rather have a loving relationship with the girls/LI's but i also wouldn't mind killing me enemies. If there is any intention of a neutral path i think plenty of players are fine with eliminating enemies but still being good to the people they care about.

0x171

It's a really good idea. Right now it genuinely feels like a punishment (which makes sense), but I'd like the protagonist to be just a little more sadistic and dominant 🥵

AlBurk

Good way to mix it up allowing being dominate and giving us the step to go even further. Sounds good 👍

Anal-yzer

If it means more maledom and anal content, I'm here for it 👍

Cazz

I love the idea of being more dominant. But I would recommend to either make decisions more sex oriented: deciding fetishes, sex positions, love interest, etc. Or to make choices less common and only for real story changing decisions. I just think more people play to be with all the girls in good loving standing so the "Him" path seems like an edgy route for now.

Draec

I don't like being mean to people in games unless they deserve it lol. The 'him' choices are very hard to pull off unless you actually want to play as an unrepentant asshole.

Draec

As an additional thing, in Mass Effect they ran into problems when people did a bit of paragon and a bit of renegade - which is more normal and natural than being all one thing - until they solved it in ME3 where your individual points mattered for your 'alignment', but to make big skill checks, it went off your combined score. It lets people play a more nuanced character and makes more sense. I'm sure you'll find the majority of people make mostly good choices and dabble in making wrong choices when they deem it appropriate.

Ysell

Good idea!

dz liu

Solid support!

Railander

the thing that i'd actually like from the honor system is being very sexually dominant, for example taking sex slaves even if against their will and training them to love it.

Vortex

Went public on the 20th

darlic

It's a good starting idea imo, and even though I'm one of those who prefer playing the good guy route, I'm curious what you'll come up with.

Vicky Rathord

Waiting for HIM 0.4.4 version ⌚

22 美乃滋

This idea is awesome! I've already come to play the game, yet I still can't do whatever I want — that's seriously unreasonable. And I believe even saints wouldn't really enjoy playing adult games, don't you think? This game has always deeply fascinated people with its SM or subordinate roles, and nothing else can replace it. I hope the ideas in this post can actually come true. For this update, I'm willing to wait even longer.

Acronix

Yeah, I'm with you on that. With the honor system currently maxed at just 10 points, most players who aren't completely unhinged end up sitting at around 8 to 10 honor anyway. The problem is, some scenes require a specific honor threshold that makes you regret playing nice earlier. And it gets even more awkward for players who've already capped their honor—every honorable choice after that just feels pointless, like throwing goodwill into a void. I don't want to be a complete asshole, but I don't want to be some all-loving saint either. For an MC who's most likely going to be the next king, he needs to be someone who dares to love and hate in equal measure—a figure people respect and fear, not a guy handcuffed by a simple stat number.

Tarmenel

Good idea, hopefully something will come from it. Anyway, it finally convinced me to get a yearly subscription, so GL.

Kalon Gerardo

I know it's a porn game, but it's one of the few games with an interesting story, and it would be a shame to fill it with NSFW scenes, just saying...

Shabrani Goudou

I don't believe that's necessary. I'm a story/characters first kind of dude and am pleased with what's going on atm. To me, changing sexual behavior means changing "normal" behavior. You can't be a regular nice guy in everyday interaction (honor), coerce the ladies a bit so that they take it up the ass (without losing honor) because you're a "bad boy" and return to the story and be a nice guy again. You already do that for ex with Reham by noticing she likes being submissive or Maia because she likes everything. Keep focusing on the ladies and MC going along with it if the player wants it, not the other way around. It's the ladies that should dictate what you do, not the other way around, or they'll all become the same.

jrahmed saikat

When the next chapter will release??

Paul

i think some of it is also that, even when you are a Saint, as a player, you might get mad, and aren't allowed to do some things because you are too good. Maybe instead of disallowing, it knocks you down a significant amount, say -5 or more depending, which you then have to earn back by regaining trust. And then disallow certain things that require higher honor until that trust is gained. Could be character dependent too. Maybe Girl A trust you more than Girl B, because your interactions with them and then your general reputation as well. I know that adds complexity, which makes getting it "right" harder, but also feels a bit more real.

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PrideGreed

Kabuki you should pay more attention to MC and which hand is which. There is at least one scene where I noticed that they swapped. First snow scene after Thulkin vs MC. Edit: the whole sequence is mirrored?