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Fitz faces a harsh reality when old feelings and jealousy arise at an event; Quinn wants to prove herself; Leo arranges a meeting between Sally and an old friend.

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Amanda Diaz

Olivia pissed me off with this episode, like girl you accusing Mellie of sleeping with Andrew when you having a whole ass affair with her husband. I never understood the love for Olivia lol she always pissed off than and still pisses me off now.

nice

fitz sooo damn annoying...can he di3

jo

How did we get from listening to you rant “cheatin ass hoe” about every cheating person to you cheering on Mellie’s infidelity 🫠

Turn Up the Mike

Maybe it is your opinion that Mellie has an obligation to remain loyal to a man that for years has openly (after keeping it a secret) identified another woman as the love of his life but not eyeeeee. Mellie kissing someone after years of her husband maintaining a relationship with his mistress, who Mellie knows about and has literally accommodated, is not remotely the same situation as most other cheating scenarios to me. I can acknowledge yes, technically she cheated without believing "therefore I have to react to it exactly the way I react to Fitz or any other person cheating." After 3 seasons of seeing what Mellie has put up with, you think I'm seriously about to insult her by calling her a "cheatin ass hoe" for finally saying fuck Fitz and getting a mistress of her own? TUH nevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

jo

Oh no, I don’t think Mellie owes Fitz anything - his character sucks anyway, but the way he treats her is horrendous and egregious. I just, in general, have a more nuanced thinking re: infidelity in general, and I’ve watched so many reactions of yours lately, so I was getting used to your ethos around cheating. You kept saying you didn’t think Mellie did anything so I wasn’t sure how you’d feel/ react.

Turn Up the Mike

I hear you, but I think that's actually where I'm confused. If you agree Mellie doesn't owe Fitz anything because of what he's done and the state of their marriage, then I'm not really sure what you were calling me out for in the first place lol. My reaction to Mellie IS me having nuance around infidelity. And respectfully, saying you have a "more nuanced thinking re: infidelity" does read as implying that my thinking generally lacks nuance. I can absolutely have meant it every time I've called somebody a "cheatin ass hoe" 😂 because the context of those situations warranted it. That doesn't mean I've established some blanket rule that every instance of infidelity is morally equivalent regardless of the circumstances. I think the better comparison would be whether those other cheating situations had a whole heap of context comparable to Mellie and Fitz, and I really don't think most did. Most cheating storylines I've reacted to have been pretty cut and dry: there's an understood expectation of fidelity and somebody violates it. The surrounding drama may be complicated, but the actual betrayal isn't necessarily morally murky. Mellie and Fitz are an EXTREME exception to that for me. So I think you may have gotten used to my strong stance on much more straightforward cheating situations and interpreted that as an absolute "ethos" that I don't actually have. If the context changes this dramatically, my judgment can change too. That's the nuance. 😭

jo

Oh, honestly - thank you , for real - for taking the time & energy to explain and communicate that - it was actually effective in me *getting* it, and I can only imagine engaging with your followers this stuff might feel exhausting. Your points here are very helpful for me (and you’re able to articulate them here much better than I can, so thanks for doing that). Yeah - you’re absolutely correct - I made an unfair blanket assumption/ generalization, and I was wrong. The nuance and appreciation of the complicated-ness was actually informing your reaction. I didn’t intend to be a jerk (failed) when I said my views are “nuanced” - let me say what I should have said: I tend to have a more liberal, flexible, “alternative” perspective on it than most folks I cross paths with - which is informed by a lot of influences, but one is that I’m nearly 50 years old. When I was younger and when I was hurt by lying partners who were betraying me, my views were really different (!).

jo

I think Fitz is awful for a good deal of the show - I think he treats Olivia (though she’s a volunteer not a victim) terribly, and then the way he treats Mellie is absolutely horrendous. So I remember (easy breezy) rooting for Mellie when I first watched this show. (And still do). / I think when I started watching your Scandal reacts, I got too excited (lol) that you were calling out Red (Abby) for how degrading her ideas and language are about women (particularly if they’re sex workers or sleeping with married men or cheating), so, I was honestly just hyperfixated on that part. Like, what does a woman need to do in order for it to be permissible for us to use language that’s sexualized & derogatory, when we don’t approve of or identify with their behavioral choices (or even think they’re a shitty person). / Anyway: I know that we all do not appreciate when followers are trying to fix, manage, control, and police reactors on their own channel, and I apologize for falling into that. Thank you for being willing to have a dialogue and help me to see more clearly. Appreciate you 🙏🏼