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DISCLAIMER: You are obviously here to watch my reaction/listen to my review and have already seen the original movie on Disney Plus.

Part 1: Google Drive or Rumble (file too big for Dailymotion)

Part 2: Google Drive or Rumble (file too big for Dailymotion)

A lot of my videos have been going over 2 hours 😅 I need to start splitting these in 3 or something (unless you are all fine with GD/Rumble for now)

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Di

I'm glad you showed some interest in the x-men cartoon in the beginning of the vid because, the movies don't really do the characters justice. Especially cyclops. Also X-men 97 was a continuation of the original series and it was amazing.

Saint Crazy

So are we just going to ignore that Charles purposely sent a missile to a Russian battleship to destroy it possibly killing innocent people? It's sort of funny considering his no kill policy.

animaechan

(I would need to rewatch to properly, but) the red guy took control of that ship and no one was trying to stop him. He and one or two others killed like 100+ CIA people with guns. I'm guessing he wiped out the crew (because he wanted to take control of the ship, obviously the crew would try to stop him and he wouldn't hesitate to kill them, we don't see anyone at any point, or can you point me to a time stamp where he's boarded the ship, and there's still crew running around?). Charles could pick up easily if there was anyone still alive on board. Even if you find it hard to believe he killed everyone so fast, and you feel the writing should have been better to show that, personally I don't think you can assume it's an inconsistency with his character/beliefs also my mod pointed out the following: "if we take into account what the movie told us about Azazel and that group - he never cared to kill, there is literally not a single Russian soldier in the ship's bridge and he is on the wheel so happy, it's fair to assume he killed everyone". once again, you not liking the writing of this would make sense buuut no one is shown to be alive. If a big red dude infiltrated a Russian ship and wanted to take control, they would've all tried to stop him and he would've had a blast offing them the same way the did with the CIA agents before.

tony

I never thought about it but I can see why others thought you were Russian lol I love this movie, after X Men 3 and origins, the franchise wasn't on the best time so this revived it at the time. The dynamic between magneto and charles is so good, the actors had great chemistry too. I prefer this younger magneto too, the righteous anger and just having such cool scenes... He is insane but you can understand why he ends up thinking the way he does and then charles being smart and sensitive but still young and naive in ways and it's just fun to see the contrast at the end between them, it was so well made

Saint Crazy

Those are all fair points which are perfectly plausible to me. I just like pointing out the possibility that there if there's a chance everyone on that ship is dead, there should be an equal possibility that someone could still be alive yet unconscious. In that scene, we as the viewer can see that Charles looks into the mind of one of the people on the ship and his connection gets cut once Azazel kicks the person (This happens in Part 2 of the reaction at 42:10). I've yet to see in the movies whether Charles can read of the minds of those are unconscious is all. Charles then assumes that everyone on the ship has been killed. Let's consider another possibilty, how can we be 100% sure Azazel would escape the missile fired upon the ship? What if it had killed him? Sure, Charles could have gone into his mind to warn him beforehand but what if Azazel realizes too late and doesn't make it out in time. This action can jeopardize his stance about killing. Now to be perfectly clear, I think the writing in this movie was solid and good fun. I simply enjoy poking fun at moments which can change our perspective about characters.

Kyle Drayton

Tbh while I know this a well written movie with a solid plot, I could never seem to enjoy it as much as everyone else did for some reason so I always avoided it whenever it would play on tv. Still glad you're enjoying your X-Men journey though! So much so that you want to read the comics too lol. . I always recommend 1963 Uncanny X-Men #94 as a jumping on point for new readers/fans of X-Men as it starts with the lineup of characters movie goers and casuals are most familiar with such as Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler(the blue guy from X2), Rogue(she can take people's powers by touching them),etc. . X-Men The Animated Series(or X-Men TAS) is always a close alternative to the comics since it's a show made from 1992-1997 that adapts the uncanny x-men comic storyline. The animation is a bit dated but fans still enjoy it. The show had 5 short seasons and was missed heavily when it ended. X-Men 97' is a direct continuation of the show(hence the 97 for the year when the original show ended)that came out 2 years ago with a trailer for its 2nd season dropping yesterday. X-Men 97 brought new and old fans alike together when the movies weren't cutting it anymore . Hope these recommendations help and can't wait for the next one

animaechan

Personally it doesn't change my perspective at all. I never once thought Charles had some kind of "no kill" rule. What he consistently argues for is: - peaceful coexistence between humans and mutants - restraint and self control (with great power comes great responsibility, is almost how I see this) - not acting out of hatred, revenge or prejudice - seeking non-violent solutions whenever possible I cant' recall a moment in the films where he ever states something like "killing is always wrong, no matter the circumstances". It seems closer to "violence should be a last resort, and hatred should never be the reason for it". kind of like in real life, if someone attacks me on the street and tries to steal my purse and maybe even kill me if I try to fight back, I still have a right to defend myself. If I'm desperately fighting for my life and hit the attacker over a head with a stone (or use whatever I have at my disposal), and he dies, I don't think Charles would think that was wrong. But if I happen to be a world class martial artist, do I have the right to pin down the attacker and strangle him to death? That's debatable. And I imagine Charles would argue pinning him down or knocking him out is enough. If I have the strength to end it before I cross a line, the best thing to do would be end it there. and a lot of his beliefs (especially in this movie) is how killing in revenge will not bring the kind of peace that any individual needs (or that the world needs). idk this could end up being a very long conversation, but it doesn't really seem worth it because it seems like you thought you were being clever to play devils advocate or something, but truthfully Charles character was never written the way you seem to interpret him (not based on what I've seen so far, at least). To conclude. Your first claim seems to accuse Charles of violating a supposed moral code. The later claims only establish uncertainty. Uncertainty isn't the same thing as proving a contradiction in a character.

Saint Crazy

To preface a few things, I don't dislike Charles as a character. I simply enjoy the conversations that spark by playing devil's advocate and considering different interpretations. It lets me see deeper into how people view certain things. I can see your perspective on Charles as a character is very accurate. The moral conundrum I'm speaking about is not about just not killing, but more into the realms of is it okay to sacrifice the few to save many. He would have been willing to sacrifice the lives of people aboard that ship to stop a war from happening. So far we have seen that Charles does not abide by this notion as he thinks many people are worthy of redemption. The first X-men movie was about sacrifice Rouge to make people mutants. This point becomes moot because the process was unstable and causes people to die, so I won't consider it hard evidence. The third movie sees Jean Grey losing herself to the Phoenix ending her death to stop any more deaths. Charles until his end believes in Jean because he still thinks she can be saved. To clear one more thing up, " Your first claim seems to accuse Charles of violating a supposed moral code. The later claims only establish uncertainty." My initial comment was always about the uncertainty. See here "...destroy it possibly killing innocent people?" It was always about the nonzero chance that people were sacrificed to preserve peace. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my silly comments, I quite enjoyed hearing further about your thoughts about characters and decisions.

Mitchell Gant

If you're gonna watch all the stuff recommended here, and you still won't be sick of the mutants, then you could give X-Men: Evolution a try as well. Early 2000s animated show with 52 episodes, it features most of the X-Men lineup as highschoolers, which certainly had me worried, when I started to watch it, but it ended up being much more entertaining than I expected, easily one of my favorite adaptations. Just don't expect too much young adult drama, it really is X-Men first, and school story second.