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Discussion! Two Questions for you. (Patreon)

Published:
2019-01-13 06:16:59
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2019-01-13 06:19:38
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I have updated my links and queue, and there's two items in queue I want to toss up for Discussion.

#1

The Elephant in the Room with the Noble Bard and the Banneret Fighter is the spectre of the Warlord that looms over them. Do people have an interest in a 5e Warlord? Would that be a worth while thing to tackle in the future? I think this could be an interesting slot for another class for 5e that would have broad enough general demand to get the widespread level of playtesting I'd like to see for a new class.

Another new Class idea that I've been tossing around is a Wisdom full caster; the Folk Caster Archetype; something that could be home to Shamans, Witches, Witch Doctors, and the like. I think at some point I will tackle one or both of these new class ideas, but a new class takes a lot of doing, so I'm looking for input on what people are interested in.

#2

The poll is pretty heavily in favor of retiring the Mindsmith. I have a couple ideas in mind for what might replace it, but now would be the time to forward toss ideas into the ring (I will probably toss any ideas here and any ideas I have into a poll down the road to see what people are interested in).

Obviously work on the Artificer will continue - that's what most of you came here for, and that's something that's not going anywhere :)

Comments

Saveliy Lugovskikh

#1 Warlord would be quite interesting as there is a lack of a full on commander/tactitian type character, but it would be quite difficult to make it really distinct from someone like Battlemaster or Banneret. As for Folk Caster, I'm all for it, as long as it is not a treehugger hippie type, and more offense/utility focused, rather than support. #2 -Tattoo/rune guy that would apply quasi-permanent buffs to his allies and himself(stuff that you apply after a lond rest and it stays on for the whole day) -Cyberpunk style augments and prosthetics guy, but it is probably too close to Gadgetsmith and Warsmith -Something esoteric or occult, so voodoo dolls, dreamcatchers, amulets and so on -Biologist/Geteticist/Dr. Frankenstein type. Golemsmith + Adorable Critter -Also I think Wandsmith needs some love, I think he is too similar to a wizard, some flavorful upgrades to make wands not just a different way to cast wizard spell would really help IMO.

Austin Fox

for #1, I'm afraid I don't know enough about the previous incarnations of the Warlord to comment, but a support-type class that doesn't focus on healing sounds very interesting, just have to make it distinct from the battle manouvers the battlemaster gets. I love the idea of another Wisdom full caster, Shaman and Witches would be an incredible addition! As for 2, I would say maybe consider separating the fleshsmith into solely focusing on improving the self, and maybe splitting the adorable and zombie critter things into it's own class, like a sort of unnatural menagerie? Have to make it distinct from the golemsmith though so it isn't just "make a companion" subclass like that, so I'm not entirely sure how to go about it. I loved the mindsmith though and actually voted to keep it! I'd think if the replacement to be similar flavour (questionably ethical), would be brilliant though!

Spenser Birney

As for #1 I'm all for a full warlord class. There really isn't anything that captures it like I feel it should. I think there is definitely design space for a witch doctor type class, but I'd personally be much more interested in seeing what a warlord might look like. A full tactician and a properly done mystic class are my two biggest "wants" as of right now from a class design perspective. As for #2 I'd have to go with something physical. A true Rune/Tatoo guy from the comment above could be really interesting. More of a physical body enhancement/enchantment type thing rather than a creation type thing. That might step on the fleshsmiths/potionsmiths toes, so I don't really know but that idea sounds cool for sure. If not that then maybe some slightly divine themed subclass somehow? Not sure where that would fit thematically. Maybe some sort of ghost in the machine, foresight/divination focused thing?

Ara Enzeru

For #1 I would love to see an attempt at a Warlord class, but I am an absolute sucker for non-heal based support classes, so that's just my two cents. #2 I think a subclass that focuses more on support would be a good addition, and would give a nice choice between two subclasses rather than only potionsmith (this isn't a criticism of potionsmith, that subclass is wonderful!). If you were to go the more support route, I would say the subclass should leave healing to the potionsmith, and focus more on mitigating/preventing damage by hindering enemy movement and attacks, providing buffs to allies, and such. The theme could really fit in well a runescriber flavor. One bit of unexplored terrain you could possibly think about is giving the class a variation of the "help" action to use on allied spells.

Matthew Gesus

Love the warlord idea, there's a few warlord homebrews running around that I like, but none that I love. Just some possible new Artificer ideas, although waiting to see what direction the WotC artificer goes is definitely a good idea. 1) Portalsmith: Focused on space and teleportation effects, and maybe some time effects. A lot of portals. A little Rick from Rick and Morty, a little Dr Who. Gets a lot of repositioning effects, maybe a rope trick item. Misty step and dimension door style effects. Can build teleportation circles, and gets access to upgrades like teleport and Magnificent Mansion at higher levels. 2) Ectosmith: Ghostbuster styled artificer, with radiant damage weapons and effects that target undead and ethereal creatures. 3) Elementsmith: More of a classic Eberron feel, binds elementals and elemental energy to weapons, armor, and special one shot items. Focus on granting fire/cold/thunder/lightning/acid damage, resistances to same, and elemental themed one shot effects. Gadgetsmith-like ability to change upgrades at long rest (flavored as binding new elementals) might make sense here.